(02/03/2016) 3 Persons, 3 Minds?

Posted: February 3, 2016 in Incarnation, Knowledge, Language, The Godhead, Trinity
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Today, points are shared on describing the fullness of GOD (we say, the GODhead or Trinity—Father, Son and Holy Spirit).  For many, the language to speak of divinity emerges from our common experiences as created beings having material form.  Using an earthy or carnal focus as ones starting platform, three “persons” will mean six hands, 30 fingers, 30 toes, three belly-buttons.  Human consciousness will stubbornly insist upon maintaining the frameworks of time, space, and  individuality.  Yet, the only correct foundation for sacred knowledge must come forth from Deity through exchanges, interactions and operations of sacred spirit substance that also are part of mankind’s makeup.  “Person” must be understood as an appearance of multiple attributes and qualities such as active presence, existence, and life.  “Divine mind” should not be taken as finite intellect, logic, or linear and discursive thought.  Evil (i.e., unintended change; instability) as an aspect of human makeup, allows shifts in meaning and value that, in effect, contend against divine truth.  The Creator is immutable and unchanging, yet, is to be understood through diversity and sacred events including growth, incarnation, rebirth, and regeneration.  Readers are encouraged to recall the following Bible verses, and the presentation below:

Colossians 2:  8-10, King James Version (KJV):  8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.  10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 1:  18-22, KJV:  18 And he is the head of the body, the church:  who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled  22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Colossians 1:  12-17, KJV:  12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Daniel” (Level 1 with 242 points, a member since October 21, 2015) posted the following:

 

If three persons make up the Trinity, does that mean God as three minds as well, otherwise it makes no sense?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.  (1st Corinthians 2:  9-16, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A GOD Without Form? (12/27/2015); Authority, Dispensation, and Unity? (08/20/2015); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015); More About the Trinity? (03/30/2015); GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014)

 

“Daniel”, here are some points I hope will help.  Even mature Christian believers encounter two major obstacles when describing the fullness of divinity:  (1) GOD is a spirit (we say, breath, life essence, word) and may not be directly known using only ones finite senses such as hearing, seeing, tasting, touching.  To say Created beings and living creatures are “made in GOD’s image” asserts that the living may display aspects of the divine makeup, yet, are neither upon the same level, nor identical to Deity in  character, form, and nature.  Also, (2) knowledge of GOD requires knowledge of “spirit”, it’s makeup and process as well as its appearance and effects.  Your namesake in the Bible, the prophet Daniel, was given answers from GOD through visitation by angels.  However, the full meaning and weight of the divine response was too great for Daniel, for it required he assume a totally different posture—a divine point of view, so to speak.  Consider the following framed in the language of Scripture:

(1.)  Isaiah 55:  6-11, King James Version (KJV):  6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:  7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts:  and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.  8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.  9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.  10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:  11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:  it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

(2.)  Genesis 8:  20-22, KJV:  20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.  21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.  22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

(3.)  Romans 1:  18-22, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

There is far more to be said, understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  John 4:  23-24, KJV:  23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth:  for the Father seeketh such to worship him.  24 God is a Spirit:  and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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