(05/29/2016) Discernment and The Cross?

Posted: May 29, 2016 in Denominations, Discernment, Knowledge, Revelation, Salvation, Subtlety, The Holy Spirit, The World
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Discernment, election, a prayer made by the Son to the Father, and schism among believers are topics, today.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Pyriform” (Level 7 with 48,417 points, a member since March 13, 2010) posted the following:


Why does it appear that Jesus’ prayer in John 17:20-21 failed?

“Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

Since there are very many Christian denominations which are divided against each other (to the point of killing people, in the past), it is pretty clear that those who believe in Jesus are not as one, so it would seem that Jesus’ prayer failed. As he specified this as the criterion by which the world should judge that he was sent by the Father, why should we believe that he was?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:  And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them:  wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?  And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:  And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the LORD will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him:  even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.  This do; Take you censers, Korah, and all his company;  And put fire therein, and put incense in them before the LORD to morrow:  and it shall be that the man whom the LORD doth choose, he shall be holy:  ye take too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.  And Moses said unto Korah, Hear, I pray you, ye sons of Levi:   Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the LORD, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?  And he hath brought thee near to him, and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee:  and seek ye the priesthood also?  For which cause both thou and all thy company are gathered together against the LORD:  and what is Aaron, that ye murmur against him?  (Numbers 16:  2-11, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Many Are Called… (10/15/2015); Adulterating Scripture? (10/06/2015); Many Forms of Christianity? (04/30/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Why Jesus Used Parables (11/03/2013); Denying Baptism to Others (11/04/2013)


“Pyriform”, discernment is the ability to recognize the character and nature of spirit substance within events, other persons, purposes and statements.  Until they are born again through water baptism (death of ones inborn spirit, rebirth having divine DNA, so to speak) the living lack the fresh deposits of inseparable spirit substance from the makeup of GOD that are to be imparted to the followers of Jesus.  Included are faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Discernment is essential to correctly acknowledge, apply, and comprehend the many subtle (i.e., barely visible differences; hidden shifts in meaning and value) points of sacred knowledge, and divine process.  It is only by operations of divinity that we our made aware of a private conversation (prayer) between the Father and the Son prior to his death upon the cross, the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) being the only living person in witness.  Having discernment, mature Christian believers are able to “see” that, through operations of the Holy Spirit, blood, correction, and truth from the cross are flowing to here and now.  In the same way the promises of GOD to “all Israel” are answered by those who continue as a “remnant”, the church of Jesus Christ and the kingdom of GOD are achieved by those who are elect.  Simply put, we say, many are called, and few are chosen.  The genuine believers can be recognized on the basis of their spirit content and practice; however, they are to be known to the Father and Son, rather than to the World.  Consider again how these ideas are shared using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Isaiah 43:  9-11, King James Version (KJV):  9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled:  who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified:  or let them hear, and say, It is truth.  10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen:  that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:  before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.  11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

(2.)  Acts 10:  40-42, KJV:  40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;  41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.  42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

(3.)  1st Corinthians 9:  24-25, KJV:  24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.  25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

There is far more that could be said, must be carefully examined, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  Matthew 13:  24-30, KJV:  24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:  25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.  26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.  27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?  28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?  29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.  30 Let both grow together until the harvest:  and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:  but gather the wheat into my barn.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

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