Archive for the ‘debt’ Category

      Blood as a divine tool is the topic, today; and no BATTLE AXE is presented. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Joshua Kelley” (Level 1 with 95 points, a member since April 8, 2013) posted the following:

How does the shedding of one’s blood act as payment for another’s debt/sin? Why blood?

As someone who is trying to understand Christian theology, I understand that Jesus of Nazareth who supposedly lived a sinless life, allowed his blood to be shed for others who would accept him as payment; in order to be forgiven of their sins.

I understand that Christ’s sacrifice was foreshadowed by animal sacrifices, as can be seen in the Old Testament. I also understand that Christ’s sacrifice was supposed to be the final blood sacrifice to complete the Law of Moses.

What I do not understand is as follows:

1) How can the shedding blood of an innocent be used to pay for another’s debt/sin? If a person kills or rapes or does some other heinous crime, the law, and the victim will be irreversibly damaged. If someone had to pay for the crime, or made to suffer, wouldn’t the victim & the law prefer to have the offender ‘pay’ for the debt/sin, instead of seeing some innocent substitute suffer?

2) Why was innocent blood required? Who was this god of the Old Testament that required blood, in order to forgive sins? Didn’t other pagan gods require blood sacrifice, as well? Why blood? Is it magical or have some special quality to it, that when shed calms god down? How does killing animals, and spilling their blood turn this god’s wrath away from the guilty?

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper? And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. (Genesis 4: 9-13, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Eat His Body, Drink His Blood (03/21/2013); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); The Need to Purify Heaven (01/17/2013); Purchased With Blood? (12/29/2012); The Law Not Flawed (12/30/2012); Binder 21: Dead Indeed Unto Sin (10/18/2011)

      Joshua, here are some points to consider that you may find very curious because they derive from biblical teachings, life experience, and the faith of a mature Christian believer. They will be easier to understand following prayer that shows respect to GOD:

(1.) Blood is to be understood as a spirit tool of GOD used to convey aspects of existence and divine being. GOD is a spirit, and is only “known” within created beings and living creatures through infusions of Divine Person we call by such names as “the breath of life,” “the Word,” “divine utterance,” “the imparted, indwelling spirit,” “the Comforter,” “the Spirit of Truth,“ and “the Holy Ghost.” Carnal, material and social ideas describing blood must be put aside. 
(2.) Animal sacrifices upon the earth pointed to and portrayed sacred processes in the heavens. For example, atonement and cleansing that continue and restore divine Creation are accomplished through blood, the material agent (i.e., flesh, form) that must unify with divine spirit to establish a living soul. In the tabernacle and temple services, blood was sprinkled, and rivers of blood were not applied. This helps us to know, the most important features of service and worship were not the amount of blood that was offered. Paramount are such features of divine being as faith, holiness, humility, obedience, trust, wisdom and wrath against sin.

(3.) Blood defiles and makes unclean, just as blood purges and purifies. Saying this another way: Blood may introduce other spirits that oppose and weaken ones initial endowment from GOD. Thus, when the land is defiled by the shedding of blood, the curse upon the earth is canceled only by the blood of those who have killed, or the blood of their children through the provisions of inheritance whereby the son may cancel the debt of the father.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) We are attempting to speak of things upon a cosmic scale, where we speak of sin, re-birth, incarnation, and holy blood. It is not impossible to have understanding, however, understanding cannot be rooted in mere logic, reason, and what we flatter ourselves as being intelligence. Do not be confused by such words as “debt” and “payment”; the true focus here is the necessary substance for being, person, and eternal life. Believers must “think inside the box” that is divine law, sacred promises, prophecy, and spirit truth.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to the measure of faith you now contain.

Washington, DC

The language and process of the holy writings are in view, today, along with more on the childhood of Jesus.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “keyjona” (Level  7 with 25,578 points, a member since June 21, 2008) posted the following:

Did our Father forgive our debt? or did our brother pay for our debt?

THE BATTLE AXE:  The Childhood of Jesus? (03/06/2013)—Mature Christian believers accept that the holy writings are a tool in the process of divine revelation.  Readers must take on a new “mind-set”, a distinct way of thinking about human existence, and about themselves.  Repeatedly, the Scriptures present persons and human events as types, figures and displays of spiritual principles and truths, rather than heroes or villains in epic tales.  Various figures appear (e.g., angels, judges, priests, prophets, kings, the covenant people, the Christ and Messiah) as expressions of sacred devices and instruments to carryout divine intent.  The reports given to a reader are not so much to detail specific actions and incidents as to reconfigure their consciousness using spirit-content.  The full reality of Divine Person and divinity reside in the official administrator, the Christ; therefore, the man, Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, is to be seen and understood as an instance of Almighty GOD appearing in flesh (i.e., incarnate).   Additionally, in principle, all of the holy prophets are alive and present in the person of the Christ, as though a single individual could be a composite containing the aspects of spiritual goodness from the lives and personality of every godly person that ever existed.  Bible readers generally understand that many activities for practical living and the day-to-day lives for the people of GOD were fixed and focused by the counsels, laws, parables and proverbs from GOD.  Also, there were traditions continued across many generations.  The course of a child’s activity, development and growth was generally described and predictable through the prescriptions and requirements from such elements.  Mature Christians typically hold that nagging questions and unsatisfied curiosity about the childhood of Jesus usually comes from our “old man” more than from the “new creature in Christ.”  Bible believers are not being equipped to answer directly whether Jesus ever played-stick ball with other boys, played pranks, was sexually initiated, or committed the errors and mischief many of us have known.  This is because our correct focus is upon his experience, fulfillment and portrayal of divine law, promise, proclamation and prophecy (see 1st Corinthians 13:  8-13, KJV).  Thus, in addition to what we understand as the standard experiences of home-life, learning and worship, a believer’s knowledge of the childhood of Jesus is obtained through the record describing other children and youth in divine service such as Moses, Samuel, David, Josiah, and Timothy.  Also, believers themselves undergo the very same spiritual experiences that make up “the childhood” of Jesus through their own baptism, sanctification, and continuing spiritual growth as a reborn child of GOD.  Consider again Galatians 4:  3-7 (KJV).

THE GOLDEN ARROW:   We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.  (2nd Peter 1:  19-21, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Text for Lives Today? (11/25/2012); Pornography from the Bible? (11/26/2012); Doing Nothing? (01/04/2011); “As If” (01/05/2011); Eaten in Haste? (01/06/2011); Proving Truth? (12/24/2010); Lord of Sabbath (12/25/2010); Bible Complete? (11/01/2010); Holy Writings? (11/02/2010); Bible Boring? (09/29/2010)

The two ideas you present reinforce one another, and are not truly complete standing alone.  Many mature Christian believers agree that, while the holy writings use many common expressions and language describing human events, secular process and social realities, the primary intent of Scripture is to establish a consciousness of spiritual elements that interact and overlap as the human condition, and that cannot be completely known through the flesh (i.e., experiences of such senses as hearing, seeing and touching).  Such concepts as duty, freedom, indebtedness, innocence, obedience and reward are used to put forward a more complete awareness of human relationship to the invisible, yet real, creator and maker of mankind.

The interconnected concepts of law, judgment, and salvation generate peculiar descriptions of mankind, of mankind’s Creator, and of the universe wherein humanity exists.  Beginning with ones awareness of the demands from human law, it is reasonable for men upon the earth to speak in terms of fines, levies, punishments, and financial sanctions that may be brought against transgressors and violators of contracts that include the overall social consensus (i.e., civil, corporate, family and criminal law).  However, to embrace the concepts of covenant and continuing intimate relationship with GOD, the need is for terms whose definitions are given by GOD, and that are broad, yet concrete and exact enough to embrace themes that are cosmic, existential and eternal.  Because, radical and often undefined terms that allow men to assume they are all saying the same thing or that they themselves have right knowledge are repeatedly used (such as atonement, forgiveness, love and peace), believers in Christ are to be anchored in more than mere mental exercises and words.  The church serves as the source of a new lifestyle and living vocabulary that includes shared experience of giving, praise, prayer, repentance and sacramental worship.

The language created to speak of sin necessarily must be “non-sense”, for sin is no material, physical or spirit thing that exists.  Sin was discovered first among the holy angels as the complaint against limitations imposed by divine law.  Because sin may not be known or eliminated by created beings and living creatures independently and separate from divinity, sin may dominate their endowments of awareness and self-will.  Sin contains no divine substance, and, in this sense, sin is not “created,” and sin does not exist.  Sin is not an expression of the divine will, and has no power to overcome the will of GOD.  Even so, sin has direction, effect and presence.  Divine devices supplied to make possible a living awareness and resistance to sin include law, priesthood, prophecy, repentance, sacrifice, the imparting of Spirit to indwell the living and the transformation of heaven and earth (i.e.,  “the making of all things new”).

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, the human intellectual process for knowing includes both deductive and inductive reasoning.  Through induction, a broad group of similar elements display a “rule” that is common for them all.  Thereby, many different or repeated instances combine to provide substance as a single truth.  In the Bible, thousands of incidents from thousands of lives combine to affirm spiritual concepts and values only crudely spoken of through human language and speech.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

     Today’s presentation, a BATTLE AXE and GOLDEN ARROW only, completes a discussion of whether those not taken up in the Rapture will have opportunity to repent, and to be saved. Also, in obedience, there is this:

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (1st Thessalonians 4: 13-18, KJV)

THE BATTLE AXE: After the Rapture? (11/01/2012)—Events that lead up to the Rapture include the documentation of works in what is called “The Lamb’s book of life”, and an ongoing divine examination of all created beings and living creatures who participate in any of the many covenants with GOD. The focus of final judgment goes far beyond ones repentance, and will also scrutinize actions to bestow forgiveness, initiative, obedience, prophecy (i.e., comfort, edification, and exhortation), sharing the “good news,” and the believer’s full sacred content (such aspects of divine nature as faith, holiness, humility, longsuffering, love, righteousness, truth, wisdom and wrath against sin). Even though they will have seen Christ in full glory, those left behind will deny, dismiss, “explain away,” and cling to “scientific explanations” that serve as their comfort zone. Thus, events that follow the Rapture will include those who account themselves rulers over the earth exacting payment, tribute and worship from all living. Conditions will be very like those described in Scripture (for example, Nehemiah 9). The rulers will have power over their bodies and their property, and the servitude of mankind will continue as a condition of great distress. Usury and exaction of debt will be widespread. There will be buying and selling on the Sabbath; and no time of godly refreshing and rest will be observed. Bitterness, despair, lust and madness will spread; and the gathering of armies to go up against GOD will begin.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Revelation 20: 6-12, KJV)

Washington, DC