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Today, accounts in Scripture of ascension and translation are considered along with subtleties that appear among sacred events.  The things recorded as Scripture are not intended for amusement and entertainment; and for correct understanding only the provision of GOD may be accounted as acceptable.  Spiritual confusion is the outcome of neither thinking like a man should think, nor thinking like a GOD supplies men to think.  Because they are to make divinity knowable, known, and visible, achieving a mature comprehension of the holy writings also requires the operation and active presence of inseparable spirit content from the makeup of the Creator.  Included as the imparted, indwelling Spirit from GOD are gentleness, faith, forbearance, holiness, joy, longsuffering, meekness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia)” using the ID “P” (Level 6 with 21,570 points, a member since February 26, 2008) posted the following:

 

God took Enoch and Elijah to heaven without them dying?

yet Jesus said in John3;13 “no one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven – the son of man”
I feel confused about this. So where are Enoch and Elijah then? Anyone know?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.  For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.  But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)  Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)  But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart:  that is, the word of faith, which we preach;  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  (Romans 10:  4-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Different Form, Same Relationship? (11/20/2016); On Death and Pain (05/08/2014); A “Good” Verse? (05/09/2014); Resurrection from the Dead? (04/23/2014); Not A Matter Of Opinion? (04/24/2014); Prophetic Demonstrations (09/06/2013); Why GOD Prayed to GOD (09/07/2013); The Ascension of Christ? (12/19/2012); GOD in Schools? (12/20/2012)

 

“P”, acquiring sacred knowledge requires careful study of the holy writings guided by the Spirit of GOD, for the language and process of divinity involves multiple subtleties (i.e., barely visible differences; hidden shifts in meaning and value).  Most mature Christians will agree, the removal of Enoch and Elijah from the earth were by translation that occurred as acts of divine acknowledgment and salvation performed by the Spirit of GOD while Jesus Christ leaving the earth following his death, burial, and resurrection was an act of ascension and divine will.  Both events may be spoken of as prophetic demonstrations, actions performed by a prophet or spokesperson of GOD to convey sacred truth specifically intended to comfort, edify (build and increase spirit power within the church), and exhort (encourage and urge immediate action). 

The removal of the Patriarch and the Prophet compare to the removal of the Garden of Eden from the earth.  Men would assemble at the entry (we say, the gate) guarded by an angel having a flaming sword, and would inquire of GOD, petition for forgiveness, offer praise, and even make there the blood sacrifices for atonement and remission of sin that had been instituted by GOD.  The oral testimony of Adam was a “spiritual evidence” that encouraged grasp by faith, while the Garden, the angel, and he himself were “physical evidence” of GOD’s earlier appearing.  This form of worship was halted following the death of Abel and as the population of men increased.  (The death of the Patriarch Adam, who lived almost a thousand years was what we call a “natural death.”)

The ascension of Jesus compares to the second falling of the Holy Ghost following Pentecost that occurred within the home of a Gentile believer.  As the Apostle Peter was beginning a sermon in witness to the ministry of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit (also called the Comforter, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) interrupted, and began to appear through a rushing wind, tongues of flame, and believers praising GOD using foreign and unknown languages (many say, the gift of tongues).

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, the distinctions among the devices and sacred events recorded in the Bible are provided so believers will be better able to recognize the operations of GOD, who is an eternal spirit that can be active and present within human lives.  Apart from GOD men are earthbound:  The vision granted the Patriarch Jacob as he slept on the ground with his head on a rock for a pillow included the ascent and descent of angels to higher and lower levels and ranks in series (we say a ladder) reaching from earth to heaven.  The Lord stood above it, and proclaimed a name that should be used to speak of him.  Later, an angelic ascension in flame is recorded when the birth of Samson was announced.  Such accounts serve as the context that give meaning to the ascension and return of Jesus Christ; and they seal the promise that at the Advent (we say, the Rapture, the Second Coming) the Lord will return to harvest from the earth those who are “ripe” that belong to him.  Those who died believing in Christ will be raised out of their graves and join the living believers to meet the Lord in the air.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Further thoughts are shared, today, on the processes of divine prophecy, salvation, trust, and the coming of Christ.  The works of separation in harvest are for the wheat and the tares as well as for the wheat and the chaff.  The task of making response to those who harass your ministry must be carefully done.  On the one hand, your goal is to cut them off absolutely and decisively; to turn them away once and for all so that they never return.  On the other hand, your duty is to respond with substance from the Holy Spirit, as many times as they shall repent (demonstrated in their coming back, again).  Just as children often are hesitant to approach their parents after chastisement, punishment and rebuke, believers, investigators and those seeking GOD often shrink from further effort once challenged, embarrassed, or “put down.”  Following the example given by divinity, the wise parent is alert to recognize and respond to apologies, repentance and sorrowing for error that appears  silently expressed through changed behavior, perseverance, and renewed effort.  Consider again the following from the Bible, where the question, “When?” is answered in a way that conclusively satisfies and seals those Christian believers prepared to receive it.  There the same query has been posed using different words, “wilt thou at this time” and “how long”:   Acts 1:  6-7, King James Version (KJV):  6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?  7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.  Also Revelation 6:  9-11, KJV:  9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:  10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?  11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.  Moreover, we have:  Ecclesiastes 12:  13-14, KJV:  Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:  Fear God, and keep his commandments:  For his is the whole duty of man.  14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.  “wirelessguru1” again commented on (10/16/2015) Christ Coming Soon? and was answered with the following:

“wirelessguru1”                      Fanatic, what does “due time” mean!?
..and encourage by what!!!???

THE BLACK PHOENIX     “Brow” (I‘m sure you won’t mind when I call you that for short), be encouraged that someone cares enough to respond to you at all.  You are still “asking” without sharing.  Try this:  say what it means to your faith, then ask for clarification or correction of what others share with you.  That is how one  avoids the impression of being an empty vessel (one having no spirit content from Christ), and further welcomes the deepest, purest truth that others feel they have.  Consider again:  1st John 4:  6, King James Version (KJV):  6 We are of God.  he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us:  Hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

THE BATTLE AXE:  Wanting To Know When? (10/18/2015)—Continuing a godly understanding, see with new eyes:  The error of Adam (both the male and female) occurred when a judgment was made (i.e., value was assigned to knowledge) in a way that threatened to destroy continuing intimate relationship with the Creator.  As their Maker, GOD met with the pair demonstrating and revealing the divine character and nature through intimacy and person, not simply by authority and as exalted Being.  The pair were to always exist within a relationship of access, love, respect and trust toward Deity.  While sacred law was in place as the expression of divine will, correct and exhaustive knowledge of the law was not required.  There even was no demand for an  abbreviation of the law as seen with the Decalogue granted to Israel as their platform for covenant relationship.

GOD called, and neither would answer.  The pair could have asked, “When?” regarding the death sentence that was passed upon their denial of Deity and disobedience.  However, the priority of GOD must be seen as having been their recovery and restoration.  Were they to be given a second chance, then and there, what would GOD establish for them?  Followers of Jesus Christ believe, GOD would have made possible the original relationship he intended, one of access, love, respect, and trust.  Generations since then have been allowed to experience “Eden’s second chance.”

It should be no surprise that Adam’s response of distrust, fear and hiding among the things of the world (i.e., the Garden) is not correct for those who come to Christ.  Only with open confession, contrition, remorse and repentance may the divine operations of atonement, forgiveness, rebirth, and sanctification set up the full transformation that must occur—even the change from mortality to immortality and incorruption at the harvesting of the earth by Jesus Christ.

The sacred process of establishing a church that we see in the Savior (from beginning to end, i.e., incarnation not impregnation, birth, death, resurrection, ascension) is to encourage more than an intellectual  awareness that GOD exists, or to draw men by curiosity as Moses was drawn.  Also, we are not speaking of a work through persuasion, and reasoning with philosophy or science.  The access to divinity now provided pertains to the content and makeup of mankind, that can only be altered for eternal purposes through rebirth, revelation, spiritual growth, and perfecting by the Holy Spirit.

In no way does a second chance mean going back to “business as usual”,  to “do as you please” or to “forget about it.”  There is to be permanent and irreversible change whereby GOD will be glorified, honored, known, and praised throughout the earth.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write:  and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.  And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,  And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:  But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.  (Revelation 10:  4-7, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Christ Coming Soon? (10/16/2015); How To Measure Spiritual Progress?  (04/19/2015); Carnal Needs, Sacred Tools? (03/26/2015); GOD Is A Spirit (12/07/2014); The Mystery of His Appearing (12/08/2014); Like a Thief? (12/01/2013); Only While We Live? (12/02/2013)

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, the eternal development of mankind may occur through the framework of time.  Yet, to focus upon time would be an error.  Similarly, we speak of trust as that aspect brought to relationship by created beings and living creatures, instead of saying faith, because the one is carnal, and appears by the flesh and self-will (some say, volition); the other is spiritual and abides through divinity.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Today, more is shared on the change to eating flesh and other conditions for mankind upon the earth following the fall and the flood.  The problem of sin is more than simply one of absentmindedness, defiance, discourtesy, feelings, or rebellion on the part of Adam as a being created to contain divine substance from a god of judgment.  Thus, a priesthood yoked to that of heaven, and the church as a companion to divinity were provided upon the earth.  The duty of mankind was to atone, live, multiply, praise, replenish, and worship.  The error committed by Adam and Eve is seen repeated through their offspring Cain, Esau, and others.  Through the operations of sin, changes occurred, first, upon the level of mankind’s awareness and self-will, next at the level of appetite and desire, then, at the level of mankind’s spirit content.  The duty of man gradually became to atone, judge, and replenish.  Those who served as priests received a portion from the holy sacrifices; however, what they ate did not infuse them with righteousness as would their acknowledgement and obedience of the imparted spirit from GOD.  Man must internalize and pursue divine mechanisms for decision-making, self-examination, and self-correction.  The changes within the inner human makeup resulting from sin also required changes for the outer conditions that would allow relationship with divinity to continue.  Saying this another way:  To avoid the total destruction of Creation initiated by sin, aspects of the earth, of heaven, and of the entire universe also would have to be changed.  For example, the tool of sleep used to prepare a female from the rib of the male would become the divine tools of death, rebirth, and resurrection.  Abundance and plenty, dearth and scarcity of food became unmistakable indicators of divine favor or displeasure.  Blood—already a carnal device used in divine atonement that would signal cleansing and forgiveness from sin—would become the tool indicating the further sacred dimensions of existence, judgment, and life.  Until the time when GOD would appear in flesh as Jesus Christ, divine visitation and revelation would go forward only through the appearance of divine agents (e.g., angels, apostles, judges, kings, prophets), holy writings, living congregations, prayer, and sacred events (we say, miracles, signs, visions, wonders).  Social instruments such as family, government, inheritance, language, marriage, and ownership of property would be altered to do more than simply populate the earth; they would be made to serve in its transformation from mortal to immortal, from corruption to incorruption.  The use of men as avengers and deliverers in divine judgment—that later was practiced as an ungodly, unlawful call for blood, human warfare—was introduced through the new covenant granted Noah along with living in fortified cities, and men exalted as rulers (we say, chieftains, princes, kings).  GOD, eternal purpose, and the expressed will of GOD (we say, divine law) remain unchanged and immutable, yet, every aspect of Creation is being re-ordered and transformed.  As surely as he suffered and died upon the cross, by regularly eating the lamb of Passover and receiving portions of the fatted calf in celebration feasts, Jesus was further established as author of the new divine covenant that would be granted as a testament in his blood and body.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  The Covenant of Noah? (12/16/2014)

Revelation 21:  5, KJV—And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write:  for these words are true and faithful.

Genesis 1:  27-31, KJV—So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.  28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:  and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.  29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.  30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat:  and it was so.  31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 4:  1-9, KJV—And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.  2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.  3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.  4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:  5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.  6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?  7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.  8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother:  and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.  9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not:  Am I my brother’s keeper?

Psalms 50:  12-15, KJV—If I were hungry, I would not tell thee:  for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.  13 Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?  14 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High:  15 And call upon me in the day of trouble:  I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

Genesis 10:  6-12, KJV—And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.  7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah:  and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.  8 And Cush begat Nimrod:  he began to be a mighty one in the earth.  9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD:  wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.  10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.  11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,  12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah:  the same is a great city.

Micah 5:  5-7, KJV—And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land:  and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.  6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof:  thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.  7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men.

Hosea 14:  1-3, KJV—O Israel, return unto the LORD thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity.  2 Take with you words, and turn to the LORD:  say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously:  so will we render the calves of our lips.  3 Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses:  neither will we say any more to the work of our hands, Ye are our gods:  for in thee the fatherless findeth mercy.

Genesis 25:  27-34, KJV—And the boys grew:  and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.  28 And Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison:  but Rebekah loved Jacob.  29 And Jacob sod pottage:  and Esau came from the field, and he was faint:  30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint:  therefore was his name called Edom.  31 And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.  32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die:  and what profit shall this birthright do to me?  33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him:  and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.  34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way:  thus Esau despised his birthright.

Genesis 27:  1-10, KJV—And it came to pass, that when Isaac was old, and his eyes were dim, so that he could not see, he called Esau his eldest son, and said unto him, My son:  and he said unto him, Behold, here am I.  2 And he said, Behold now, I am old, I know not the day of my death:  3 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison;  4 And make me savoury meat, such as I love, and bring it to me, that I may eat; that my soul may bless thee before I die.  5 And Rebekah heard when Isaac spake to Esau his son. And Esau went to the field to hunt for venison, and to bring it.  6 And Rebekah spake unto Jacob her son, saying, Behold, I heard thy father speak unto Esau thy brother, saying,  7 Bring me venison, and make me savoury meat, that I may eat, and bless thee before the LORD before my death.  8 Now therefore, my son, obey my voice according to that which I command thee.  9 Go now to the flock, and fetch me from thence two good kids of the goats; and I will make them savoury meat for thy father, such as he loveth:  10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death.

Exodus 10:  14-16, KJV—And the locust went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt:  very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.  15 For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left:  and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.  16 Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron in haste; and he said, I have sinned against the LORD your God, and against you.

Psalms 141:  3-5, KJV—Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.  4 Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity:  and let me not eat of their dainties.  5 Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness:  and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head:  for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities.

Hebrews 12:  15-17 , KJV—Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;  16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected:  for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Exodus 12:  20-22, KJV—Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.  21 Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover.  22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.

1st Peter 1:  18-21, KJV—Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;  19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:  20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,  21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1st Corinthians 5:  7-13, KJV—Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:  8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.  9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:  10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.  11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:  1-11, KJV—Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?  2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?  3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?  4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.  5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?  6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.  7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?  8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.  9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:  neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,  10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  11 And such were some of you:  but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 8:  18-23, KJV—For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.  19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.  20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,  21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.  22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.  23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Proverbs 23:  1-8, KJV—When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee:  2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.  3 Be not desirous of his dainties:  for they are deceitful meat.  4 Labour not to be rich:  cease from thine own wisdom.  5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.  6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:  7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:  Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.  8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.

Romans 14:  16-18, KJV—Let not then your good be evil spoken of:  17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.  18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

Hebrews 2:  9-11, KJV—For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.  6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?  7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:  8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.  10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.  11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one:  for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Hebrews 9:  17-21, KJV—For a testament is of force after men are dead:  otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.  18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.  19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,  20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.  21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

1st Corinthians 10:  13-21, KJV—There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man:  but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.  14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.  15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.  16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?  17 For we being many are one bread, and one body:  for we are all partakers of that one bread.  18 Behold Israel after the flesh:  are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?  19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?  20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God:  and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.  21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils:  ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.

1st Corinthians 11:  20-29, KJV—When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper.  21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper:  and one is hungry, and another is drunken.  22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.  23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:  24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat:  this is my body, which is broken for you:  this do in remembrance of me.  25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood:  this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.  26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.  27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.  28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.  29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

Matthew 7:  2, KJV—For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:  and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Deuteronomy 25:  1-3, KJV—If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.  2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number.  3 Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed:  lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee.

1st Corinthians 11:  31-34, KJV—For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.  33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.  34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

2nd Corinthians 5:  14-21, KJV—For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:  15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.  16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:  yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.  17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us:  we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.  21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

The change to eating flesh and other conditions for mankind upon the earth following the fall and the flood are considered today.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers Canada” using the ID “Gisher John” (Level 3 with 1,548 points a member since September 02, 2008) posted the following:

 

In The Bible, when did people start eating meat? In the time of Adam and Eve, it was only fruits and veggies correct?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.  And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.  Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.  But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.  And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man.  Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed:  for in the image of God made he man.  And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.  And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,  And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;  And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.  (Genesis 9:  1-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Sin and the Great Flood (11/03/2014); Remembering Lot’s Wife? (11/04/2014); Denying GOD by Eating Shrimp? (11/17/2013); The Dead in Christ? (11/18/2013); Animals Do Not Sin? (09/29/2013); GOD is Acknowledging (09/30/2013); Destroyed in Noah’s Flood? (04/28/2013); Both Born Holy? (04/29/2013); Why Blood? (04/13/2013); Time Before the Sun? (04/14/2013)

 

“Gisher John”, here are a few points based upon the Scriptures that have been helpful for many Christian believers:

(1.)  Before the disobedience of Adam (we say, the fall), the makeup and substance of all created beings and living creatures upon the earth was to be maintained through the eating of “every green herb for meat” (we say, vegetables for food).  Eating fruit from certain of the trees had been forbidden, and death was introduced as a consequence for behavior contrary to the law (i.e., the expressed will of GOD).  The Lord came to the Garden, seeking fallen man.

(2.)  Through their error, the Garden of Eden was no longer an acceptable setting for the pair; and life experience and process for the entire earth would have to be changed, not so much as punishment as “for man’s sake” (instruction, preparation, survival, transformation).  Priesthood was established upon the earth to maintain atonement for sin.

(3.)  Longevity for the patriarchs (hereditary and spiritual heads of families) was not merely based upon their diet.  The earth was not yet defiled and polluted as we find in the present-day.  Adam (930 years), Seth (912 years), Enosh (905 years) and others served as an unbroken line of oral historians, priests (those authorized to offer blood sacrifice) living witnesses and spokespersons (we say, prophets) continuing relationship with divinity.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Following the flood that was to purge (we say, clean both inside and out) the earth that was in ruin through sin, GOD established a new covenant for Creation with Noah and his family.  The conditions and terms for mankind would continue divine law and eternal purpose, and establish penalties against those who kill.  The use of animals for food would be allowed; and men would be required to shed blood to execute divine judgment.)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Topics today are divinity as a spirit substance, the Incarnation of GOD appearing as Christ, and the Advent (the Second Coming of Christ) to harvest his followers from the earth.  A “Yahoo! Answers” fighter using the ID “jereh” (Level 5 with 8,124 points, a member since October 10, 2013) posted the following:

 

How is it possible that “everyone will witness the physical return of Christ”?

Obviously the earth is not flat. What is up for people in the US is down for the people of say, Chine…

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:  but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.  (Deuteronomy 29:  29, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Sinless Until Advent? (11/05/2014); Holy Wars? (11/06/2014); What To Do At His Coming (07/20/2014); Consecrated in Christ? (06/21/2014); What Faith Makes Possible (04/25/2014); Bible and Spirit (04/26/2014); About the Second Coming? (01/18/2014); Unprofitable Servants? (01/19/2014); All Things Possible? (09/17/2013); Can One Escape? (09/18/2013)

 

“jereh”, here are a few points all Christian believers must consider in order to fully grasp the truths of salvation:

(1.)  GOD is a spirit who has the ability to generate carnal (we say, flesh), material and physical objects that include created beings and living creatures.  In addition to their simple existence, GOD also provides to the living such features as awareness, life essence from the makeup of divinity (we say, breath, spirit, word), measurable dimension and form, independence, integrity, “person”, and self-will.

(2.)  Without prejudice against mankind, Divinity continues to use sacred operations and consecrated tools that have not been displayed, explained and revealed.  Just as there are multiple conditions and spheres (we say, areas, locations) for the living (e.g., earth, heaven, the universe), there are many questions that GOD does not answer because the present focus for finite mankind should be upon the salvation established through Jesus Christ.  Our need for sacred knowledge should not center upon the details for such issues as how the Garden of Eden was taken from the earth, and continues to exist in heaven; how Jesus continues to exist in flesh, and is cleansing the Sanctuary of the Temple using his own blood; how the New Jerusalem, a city that will exist upon the earth, is being constructed in heaven using spirit substance; or how souls of those departed and shielded beneath the altar in heaven are crying out to GOD.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  The operations of awareness and self-will can be dominated by ones flesh (i.e.,  appetite such as hunger, thirst, sexual cravings; sensation such as hearing, smelling, tasting, touching; emotion/mental functions such as anger, fear, dreams, imagination, recall) and by sin (i.e., a nonmaterial, non-spirit influence that opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the universe controlled through divine order generated by sacred law).  Even so, finite consciousness and will can not eliminate or erase the “active presence” (we say, authority, existence, power, sovereign will) of the Creator.  To acknowledge that GOD is a Spirit, also endorses the truth that GOD is without physical limits, is everywhere, and is actual within the past, present and future at the same time (we say, is omnipresent).)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Being drawn into religious belief, bereavement, the Gospel, and prophecy are topics, today.  Also, there is more on the coming kingdom of GOD.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Ewan” (Level 2 with 432 points, a member since November 02, 2013) posted the following:

 

Can a death cause someone to turn to religion? 

This may sound dumb, but I lost my grandad a couple of years ago, we were very close and I think about him alot

Sometimes I get sympathetic to a religion because I guess it raises the idea that I would see him again

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  A Kingdom Now and One To Come? (09/05/2014)—(6.)  Believers speak of GOD as “king” or “monarch” to express the understanding that the Almighty is the single figure having all accountability, authority, dominion, ownership, power, privilege, and rule regarding Creation.  As king, GOD is distanced from created beings and living creatures by the responsibilities of divine office as well as by excellence, glory, majesty, merit, and purity.  As a sacred device, the kingdom of GOD lessens the separation among the living, and from the Creator.  Through baptism (death of ones inborn spirit, rebirth from divine substance), believers receive a fresh endowment of the spirit (breath of life) imparted to Adam out from the makeup of GOD.  They acquire such inseparable aspects of divinity as faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, love, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  While being within the kingdom is established through new birth, a believer’s competence, maturity, and skill in their role as leader, priest, prophet, or servant to GOD comes only by gradual growth and learning.  Those born again must also grow up again by meeting life challenges and having experiences of spiritual triumph while upon the earth.

(7.)  The kingdom of GOD that now exists is primarily a spiritual condition shared by created beings and living creatures who are scattered throughout heaven and earth.  Through the kingdom that is, mankind may experience a foretaste of the kingdom that will be.  Presently, men in the earth may belong to a kingdom of darkness where they must serve as slaves to sin.  Also, the kingdom of light established by GOD may come under attack and defilement through the operations of sin.  Following the completion of final judgment, the coming kingdom of GOD will appear as a material and physical realm upon the earth.  Then the kingdom will be populated only by those belonging to GOD whose names were written in the Book of Life.  The New Jerusalem, the Holy City, will have come down from heaven onto the earth.  The Garden of Eden will once again have place in the earth as its sphere of life.  In the perfection of divine intent and eternal purpose, all who exist will have been transformed:  There will no longer be mortals and mortality, and the living all will be incorruptible.  The separation of heaven and earth will no longer be in effect; and both GOD and Christ will dwell with men upon the earth.  See again Isaiah 64:  4, Matthew 5:  2-4 and 9-11, Matthew 7:  15-23, Luke 12:  27-32, Luke 17:  20-21, John 3:  3-6, 1st Corinthians 2:  9-10 and 6:  9-11, Romans 14:  17 and Revelation 21;  1-5, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;  Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.  For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.  And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:  or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.  And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation.  For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:  But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:  Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver:  in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;  (2nd Corinthians 1:  3-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Dead in Christ? (11/18/2013); Too Much Holy Spirit? (11/19/2013); Our Present Comfort? (06/28/2013); Come As You Are? (06/29/2013); Faith for Facing Tragedy? (06/04/2013); Words Spoken By GOD? (06/05/2013); Must We Really Die? (05/13/2013); Can GOD Die? (05/14/2013); Death Has Been Transformed (05/09/2013); Loving the Enemy? (05/10/2013); Why A “Spokesperson”? (01/14/2013); No Contradictions? (01/15/2013)

 

“Ewan”, here are a few points on Christian belief you may find helpful:

(1.)  Prophets sent as messengers and spokespersons from GOD share three aspects of divine utterance:  comfort, edification (building up) and exhortation (urging to action).  Comfort may be provided at times of bereavement and loss, during times of persecution and tribulation as well as during phases of judgment (e.g., correction, hardship, punishment, rebuke).  In addition to joy, sacred knowledge, longsuffering, patience, prophecy communicates divine love and hope (specific expectations).

(2.)  The message we call the Gospel is intended to comfort all mankind as it speaks to the end of death and sin.  Death (sometimes called sleep, because the dead may be awakened by GOD) is the completion of mortality, the condition of finite duration that describes human existence.  Resurrection is the rejoining of life and spirit to body so that the dead may appear before GOD in judgment.  Angels are not mortal, yet, are not immortal; and their duration is determined at the discretion of GOD.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and all Creation that relies upon sacred law.  Divine judgment is provided by divinity to resolve all conflicts and settle all disputes among created beings and living creatures by the applications of righteousness conveyed through divine law.

(3.)  For Christian believers divine utterances (we say, the word of GOD) has power and is always truth, for the integrity of GOD is unquestionable.  GOD is not a man that he should lie.  The Almighty can not be intimidated, manipulated, or threatened.  As a record of sacred events and operations of GOD upon the earth, the holy writings encourage believers that every detail of the proclamations, promises, and prophesies from GOD will be carried out and fulfilled.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.  14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.  15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.  16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:  and so shall we ever be with the Lord.  18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  1st Thessalonians 4:  13-18, KJV.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Today, Scripture teachings on pain and the state of the dead are considered along with the idea of eternal torment.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “voney” (Level 3 with 1,060 points, a member since December 12, 2013) posted the following:

 

Does the Bible show whether the dead experience pain? 

At:
Eccl. 9:5, 10 it says that “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.”

(If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.)
Sheol refers to the grave.

Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.”

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:  on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.  And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,  And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle:  the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.  And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city:  and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.  And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.  And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened:  and another book was opened, which is the book of life:  and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:  and they were judged every man according to their works.  And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.  This is the second death.  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.  (Revelation 20:  6-15, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Immortality (02/08/2014); Destroying the Resurrected Body? (02/10/2014); For They Shall Be Ashes (02/11/2014); Only While We Live? (12/02/2013); Reveal Himself To All? (12/03/2013); The Dead in Christ? (11/18/2013); Too Much Holy Spirit? (11/19/2013); The End of Pain? (06/10/2013); Night Cometh (06/11/2013); Death Has Been Transformed (05/09/2013); Loving the Enemy? (05/10/2013); After We Die? (10/04/2012); Does GOD Feel? (10/05/2012); Ghosts (09/02/2012); About Conversion (09/03/2012)

 

“voney”, here are a few points I can share based upon the holy writings, and the common sense reasoning for those who are led by the Spirit of Christ:

(1.)  The state of the dead, the state of the blessed following judgment, and the state of the damned are three closely allied concerns that the Adversary uses to repeatedly challenge believers.  The same subtlety (i.e., manipulation by hidden differences; barely visible shifts in meaning or purpose), and wiles that were practiced against our first parents (Adam) are used to introduce spiritual confusion, and to overthrow commanded expectation (we say, hope).

(2.)  The process of the Scriptures is one of using bananas to describe watermelon—ignoring their differences, both are exactly the same:  Both are green (at least, at first); both are fruit, both function as protection and vessels for seed (though banana seeds are barely visible and seedless watermelon has become popular like seedless grapes); and both are tasty as treats.  In Scripture, carnal, material and social features are used to describe and demonstrate things that are totally made up from spirit matter such as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

(3.)  Awareness of divine condemnation is described using finite terms that are appropriate to the flesh such as aguish, pain, and suffering.  However, eternal separation from GOD is also the removal of the godly substance that establishes ones own existence, character, and person.

(4.)  Jesus used the parable of Dives and Lazarus (see Luke 16:  19-31, KJV) to instruct and prepare those closest to him for his own crucifixion, the sacred events on the day of Pentecost, and the revelations that would come by the Spirit of Truth.  The parable does not have the same application and authority as the visions found throughout the Book of Revelation.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  There must be a correct knowledge of both death and judgment.  The idea that hell is a sphere of human existence (i.e., a place where people may walk, talk, quarrel among themselves, hunger, thirst, crave contact and affection, etc.) agrees with the declaration of the serpent in Eden:  Ye shall not surely die.  Hell is thought a place where men will be totally aware of their sins and wickedness as they burn, and are tortured forever.  However, those who insist upon endorsing such a false promise of eternal life are effectively removed from the salvation of GOD in Jesus Christ.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith, and the substance of divinity within you.

The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.  Wisdom is better than weapons of war:  but one sinner destroyeth much good.  (Ecclesiastes 9:  17-18, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC