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     Bereavement, Jesus raising the dead, and Scripture readings for funerals are topics, today, along with more on judgment.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Donkey Girl” (Level 5 with 8,513 points, a member since October 28, 2010) posted the following:

Inappropriate reading at funeral?

I went to a funeral recently and the vicar quoted a passage from the Bible where Jesus sees a mother weeping over her son who has died. Jesus tells the boy to get up and his mother is very joyful as he’s returned to life. The vicar said that Jesus did this because the boy obviously meant a lot to his mother.

I think this is completely inappropriate at a funeral. So Jesus saw fit to resurrect this boy, but presumably doesn’t care enough about the guy whose funeral I was at nor the suffering of his wife weeping in the front pew to resurrect him.

None of the believers at the funeral seemed to think anything of it. Are Christians so blinded by their faith that they just listen to the words and don’t think about their meaning any more?

THE BATTLE AXE:  When Does Judgment Begin? (06/27/2013)—The current, ongoing judgment focuses upon believers, and therefore, employs criteria and standards that relate to identifying divine purpose, sacred operations, and eternal substance.  Included are admonition, chastisement, correction, council, instruction, punishment, rebuke, and warning (see Job 5:  17-19, Hebrews 12:  4-6 and Luke 12:  42-48, KJV).  At the Advent, or Second Coming of Jesus, there will be two classes of believers in existence that supply those who are lifted up to meet the Lord in the air:  (1) the quick (those still alive, who have not finished mortal life, and (2) the dead.  Both these classes of believer will have already satisfied the demands of judgment such that they are included in what is called “the harvest,” “the reaping,” and “the Rapture.”  Those taken up are not yet granted rest from all labors, for they must complete preparations for, serve in, and bear witness to the judgment of the wicked.  Also, there must be the assignment of duties and the distribution of homes within the New Jerusalem as well as upon the new earth that is to be overspread by immortal, incorruptible beings.  See Matthew 5:  20-29, 2nd Timothy 4:  1-5, 1st Thessalonians 4:  13-18 and Revelation 21:  1-8, King James Version.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  If ye love me, keep my commandments.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  I will not leave you comfortless:  I will come to you.  Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me:  because I live, ye shall live also.  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:  and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.  He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:  and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.  These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.  Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you:  not as the world giveth, give I unto you.  Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.  (John 14:  15-26, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The End of Pain? (06/10/2013); Faith for Facing Tragedy? (06/04/2013); Scripture at Funerals (04/30/2013); Why Jesus Authored No Books (05/01/2013); Magical Resurrection? (03/20/2013); Eat His Body, Drink His Blood (03/21/2013); Holy Comfort? (11/26/2010); Statistics? (11/27/2010)

     “Donkey Girl,” here are some important points shared among Christian believers that may further your spiritual insight:

(1)  Surrounded by two crowds at the entering of the city, Jesus publicly responded to the widow at Nain whose son was her sole source of income and emotional support.  The Savior was moved by compassion, empathy, and the recognition that his own mother would be bereaved and devastated, soon.  At the pleadings of a father and leader of the synagogue (Jairus), Jesus had restored a dead maiden; however, this had been done in private, before no more than six witnesses.  In both these instances, the dead were raised before burial; and so, on surface, they may appear less significant than the raising of Lazarus, who was in the tomb several days.

(2)  Jesus was not commanded by GOD to raise the widow’s son, at that time.  His doing so, therefore, was a prophetic demonstration (actions instead of words) to forewarn and prepare his disciples for a faith-staggering revelation of his divine authority, discretion, and sacred prerogative:  That Messiah would soon die upon the cross, and would reappear following his resurrection from death.

(3)  The sacred processes of GOD for mankind make use of such elements as birth, death, family, marriage, parenting and revival of the dead.  However, consciousness of GOD can be established only through the inseparable aspects of divine person.  GOD is a spirit, and may only be realized using imparted spirit matter that makes up divinity.  Included are faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, love, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

     There is no simple explanation, or abbreviated way to clarify the many profound truths of judgment, prophecy, resurrection and sanctification.  There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example,  (4)  Presently, mature Christian believers are to answer death and bereavement through the promises of GOD, instead of through marvels, miracles, and raising the dead.  The comfort, edification and exhortation from GOD that are prophecy do not center upon the carnal, material and social events that routinely challenge believers.  Multiple ongoing sacred operations are in place transforming all Creation, and every aspect of existence.  Once the “second death” is completed, mortality will no longer exist; and mankind will be immortal and incorruptible.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.


THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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      Jesus writing books as a device to ensure the “purity” of the Gospel is a topic, today. Also, there is more on the use of Scripture at funerals. The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “John” (Level 4 with 2,777 points, a member since April 23, 2012) posted the following:

Christians, why did Christ not write down his teachings himself?

Im a Christian and I was just wondering why Christ didnt write down his teachings, his own words, first hand, directly into a book to avoid and misinterpretation? Would there have been a reason for this or could he have done this and it maybe got lost over the years?

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@Star – yes I have experianced God, I have a personal relationship with him but it is only very recently, after being a mass going catholic all my life that I really began to understand what it is that I was believeing in and that came from studying the words of Christ. The point im making here is that organised religions such as the one that I belonged to have twisted Gods word for their own agendas throughout history ‘interpeting’ it to suit themselves and taking in a lot of believers (including myself) with their dogma etc, that is the misinterpretation I am talking about and it took me almost thirty years to break away from it.

THE BATTLE AXE: Scripture at Funerals? (04/30/2013)—(5.) For committed believers, reading from the Bible or other holy writings, and reciting Scriptures are not intended to drive away ghosts, demons, and evil spirits. They are not tools for magic and the superstitious casting of spells for good luck, or protection. Ordinarily, prayers and Scriptures are used to sanctify (i.e., cleanse and set apart areas, objects or persons as devoted and exclusively for sacred use). Otherwise common soil, entire church buildings, the main gathering hall, and burial sites may be regarded as occupying holy ground and consecrated through truth, and through divine presence. The right of the dead for burial in consecrated ground and the access of their loved ones to celebration of sacred observances for the dead (e.g., the Requiem Mass, the Lord’s Supper) continue to be an issue for communities, and those who lack understanding of church discipline, law and practice. Many not understanding insist that nonmembers and sinners should have an equal place with those of the church. In the covenant of Moses, touching a corpse made one unclean (i.e., unfit for divine service), and disqualified them from participation in communal worship for as much as seven days. Only after rededication through fasting, prayer, offerings, and several washings could one be restored. In the New Testament, cadavers and dead bodies have no spiritual substance, and convey neither holiness, nor spiritual uncleanness. Thus, the modern practice of establishing memorials at the site of a person’s death is accounted as a fad or popular expression that acknowledges no eternal dimension, and only pertains to elements that are emotional, social and temporary in their duration and nature. See Exodus 3: 1-6, Matthew 8: 21-22 and John 11: 20-27, KJV. 
 
THE GOLDEN ARROW: For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. (1st Corinthians 1: 17-24, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Evidence of the Unseen Spirit? (04/09/2013); A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); A Spirit Church? (04/04/2013); My Brother’s Keeper (04/05/2013); His Burden is Light? (12/10/2012); Knowing Who Your Real Friends Are (12/11/2012); The Gospel not Logical? (09/16/2012); Unwelcome Gifts? (09/17/2012); Too Many Interpretations? (03/08/2012); About Being Friendly (03/09/2012); Why Religion, Anyhow? (02/18/2012); On The Messiah (02/19/2012)
    
     John, I can share some thoughts with you that I trust have come to me through the ministry of our Risen Lord. To obtain their full benefit, it may require you first turn again to the Savior continuing to show your gratitude, humility and respect:

(1.) The primary mechanism for transmitting the Gospel is the imparted, indwelling Spirit of Christ (also called the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy and the Spirit of Truth). The substance and process of the New Testament church is the revelation of GOD. Because GOD is a spirit, all things must be mediated, reconciled and transformed in order for created beings and living creatures to experience adoption, covenant relationship and intimacy as children of GOD. See Matthew 16: 17, KJV.

(2.) The ministry of Jesus was a priesthood to amplify and endorse the divine law, the sacred oracles, and holy writings given to mankind that were already in place as an inheritance among the Jews. Included were records of covenants, divine judgments, promises, proclamations and prophesies. The Son of GOD was to continue a ministry begun in heaven upon the earth, and to actualize, fulfill, and make visible the glory and righteousness of GOD addressing disciplines and expectations established among a chosen people.

(3.) Jesus did not come to create a new organization or a massive social institution to carry on the activities of the World. The focus was not to be upon bad behavior, misconduct and sin, so much as the content of being, and completing necessary transformation that would allow the existence of mankind with GOD as immortal and incorruptible.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) The endowment of divine breath bestowed upon mankind in Creation, has been altered, diminished, and weakened by separation from GOD and sin. Through Jesus, believers are “born again” and receive a fresh deposit of divine DNA, so to speak. Every believer continues in relationship to GOD only through their own endowment of divine substance. Saying this another way, each believer must stand in their own faith. See 1st Corinthians 2: 5, and 2nd Corinthians 1: 24, KJV.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

      The practice of reading Scriptures at funerals is the topic, today. Also, there is more on the miraculous births of Jesus and John the Baptist. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Declan” (Level 1 with 94 points, a member since February 17, 2013) posted the following:


Why are bible verses read at funerals?


THE BATTLE AXE: Both Born Holy? (04/29/2013)—(6.) Lacking the Holy Spirit and a right knowledge of the process of GOD, many mistakenly believe that the Scriptures are filled with contradictions and errors, because they see the same sacred events and miracles recorded more than once, yet, they are not reported exactly the same way. Depending upon human intelligence, logic, or reason, and seeking to understand without spiritual discernment, the profound and subtle increases effected by GOD cannot be detected. See 1st Corinthians 2: 9-14, KJV. (7.) The work of John was to announce the fulfillment of divine promises and prophesies recorded in the Scriptures. The work of Jesus was to actually carryout, institute, and perform sacred events, and divine operations upon the earth that pertained to worship and the divine Sanctuary in heaven. Included in the Savior’s work were atonement, forgiveness, incarnation, proclamation, purification, rebirth, reconciliation, and resurrection.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. (Luke 9: 57-61, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Quoting Scripture to GOD? (04/24/2013); Illusion? (04/25/2013); Suddenly Absent, Suddenly Present (03/31/2013); A Family Affair? (04/01/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013); The Prophets (02/24/2012); Binder 3: A Commitment To The Scriptures (09/30/2011); Inspiration? (03/05/2011); Blasphemy? (03/06/2011); Bible Boring? (09/29/2010)

      Declan, here are some points understood to be important among many mature Christian believers about the reading of Scriptures:

(1.) For many, burial of the death is a mechanical and practical process having more to do with sanitation than salvation. (It is necessary to remove the dead and their decay to block the spread of disease and sickness.) The reading of Scriptures is not needed to “take out the garbage” or to “remove the trash.” For those who acknowledge the authority and sovereignty of GOD over life, death and eternity, readings from Scripture are used to acknowledge and show respect to the exalted position of GOD as Creator and Maker of mankind, as Judge over the quick and the dead, and as the One who establishes eternal life through the resurrection of the dead.

(2.) Scriptures are read to invoke (i.e., invite, welcome) the presence of GOD; and to petition (make request) for divine resources. In addition to pleas for acceptance of the dead into the divine presence, the needs of the surviving loved ones are addressed including comfort, direction, guidance, healing, strength (emotional, physical, psychological and spiritual), and reaffirmation of their own condition as saved believers. See Romans 15: 4 and 2nd Corinthians 1: 3-9 King James Version.

(3.) Scriptures are read to reestablish awareness of divine truths held among believers that are powerfully contradicted and opposed by bereavement, separation, and loss of loved ones. Included are praises, prayers, proclamations, promises, prophesies, and thanksgivings. Men are easily convinced that death is real, because multiple devices of the flesh dominate human awareness. Appetite, sensation, and mental functions such as desire, recall and thought, are all engaged. By contrast, apprehension of eternal life comes only when awareness is directed by the Spirit of GOD, and things otherwise invisible and unknowable must come into ones experience.
    
     There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) GOD is a spirit. The holy writings convey and transfer divinity as spirit content in the form of words (i.e., breath, utterance). Included are aspects of the divine makeup such as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering (endurance), love, patience, wisdom, and wrath against sin.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC