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A response is shared to a writer’s curiosity about the negative/positive character of Bible sayings.  Also, there is more on damnation, and if one is sent to hell.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Ben” (Level 1 with 10 points, a member since April 25, 2013) posted the following:

Is all scriptures and sayings in the bible all positives?

I am not doubting or anything. I am just curious.

THE BATTLE AXE:  If You Are Sent…? (06/08/2013)—  (5)  The separation of life from flesh is called “death” and the completion of mortality.  However, existence is not finished for those who die; and in the divine operations of first and second resurrection, the spirit of life is returned to the body it was taken from along with the aspects of consciousness, identity and person that had been removed.  The imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD that establishes adoption, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification while one is upon the earth returns to GOD at their death.  These are not returned to those who are resurrected, for higher levels of Spirit truth and perfection are bestowed upon believers as they are lifted up to be with Christ.  Angels do not die, and are neither immortal nor mortal.  The awareness, person and substance of angels endure as coherent being only through divine discretion, and by the will of GOD.  The lake of fire (also called, hell, perdition, the place of burning, and the place of torment) has been fashioned as a divine tool to remove the residue from operations of spirit, and all spirit content that no longer responds to the sovereign will of GOD.  The material that is sent to the lake of fire does not include any content from divine person, or aspect of divinity.  All features recognized as authority, awareness, character, dutifulness, expectation, feelings, integrity, personality, truth, and vision will no longer appear.  Those sent to hell can no longer exist as vessels for the peculiar endowments from GOD that establish angelic or human being.  Thus, the holy fire only destroys lifeless, mindless rubbish.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:  because many false prophets are gone out into the world.  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:  because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.  They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.  Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.  Beloved, let us love one another:  for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.  (1st John 4:  1-10, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Words Spoken By GOD? (06/05/2013); Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013); How To Accept Bible Truth (04/17/2013); About Preaching the Gospel (04/18/2013); A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); On Producing Atheists (03/16/2013); The Children, not the Dogs (03/17/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013)

Ben, it is good that you are curious; it was curiosity that got Moses to turn aside and view a burning bush, not belief, not faith, not perfect knowledge.  Here are some points based upon the Gospel and other holy writings that most mature Christians would agree are accurate and useful:

(1)  The Bible is a collection of writings that include reports of sacred events used by divinity to shape awareness and knowledge in created beings and living creatures.  Included are covenants, divine law, guidance and principles for interaction as a sanctified people of GOD, and judgments against sin.

(2)  The Bible is a tool used by GOD to reveal divine person (we say, the heart and mind of GOD).   The Bible provides a divine perspective and “God’s-eye” view of reality, showing the operations of GOD through thousands of lives, over thousands of years.

(3)  The Bible is a tool used by GOD to further assist created beings and living creatures in detecting and resisting sin.  Sin is a non-material influence that may dominate self-will in the living.  Sin is not a spirit substance, has not been created by GOD or any created being, and (in this sense) sin is invisible.  Sin was first discerned and recognized through actions and attitudes displayed by Lucifer among the holy angels.

(4)  GOD has provided many gifts that enable the angels and mankind to detect and overcome sin.  Included are divine law, anointed judges, examples from lives of committed believers, patriarchs, prophets, divinely appointed rulers, and his own appearance upon the earth Incarnate.  GOD is not subject to sin; and all Creation is being transformed to eliminate sin through the imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD and the ministry of Jesus Christ.

(There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5)  The Bible includes many accounts of human frailty.  The curses that are incurred through defiance, disobedience, and disrespect of GOD are described in detail.  Graphic language is used to clarify the horror and ugliness of betrayal, rebellion, stubbornness, treachery, and weakness.  Yet, the Bible also describes and explains the many divine provisions (we say, blessings) that counter and undo ruin caused through sin.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

Feelings held by those condemned in divine judgment are a topic, today, along with more on what happens to those who have never heard about GOD and Christ.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Jake” (Level 1 with 16 points, a member since May 11, 2013) posted the following:

Christians, if you are sent to Hell by God, for whatever reason, would you still adore and love God?

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Esther …. rather nice AVOIDANCE of my question. Guilty conscience? Not 100% sure “you” are going to make it to heaven? Hmmm.

THE BATTLE AXE:  Those Who Have Never Heard? (06/07/2013)—(5)  The experience of “hearing the truth” and knowing the existence of GOD within ones awareness is not a product of conversation, culture, human interaction, language, social communication, and verbal exchange.  Consciousness of divinity is an aspect of personal being, and a life-process like self-awareness that occurs within the spirit make-up of created beings and living creatures through the action and presence of GOD, who is spirit.  The Gospel is preached, and believers provide various demonstrations of faith in order to acknowledge, confirm, and witness to the presence of the Spirit of Christ in the earth, and can not create awareness and sacred knowledge where it does not exist.  Through the ministry of Jesus, the terms of historical covenants binding GOD and elect persons among men have been modified to further clarify judgment, broaden salvation, extend the benefits of divine promises, and illuminate the righteousness of grace.  See John 10:  1-30 and Ephesians 2:  8-22, King James Version. 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:  for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.  O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee:  but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.  And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it:  that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.  (John 17:   18-26, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  How Do I Repent? (05/16/2013); Emotional Appeal? (04/02/2013); Does GOD Feel? (10/05/2012); How Was GOD Known Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Sin Without Wrongdoing? (08/28/2012); On Religious Items (08/29/2012); (12/01/2011) Girdle 16:  A Drawn Sword

Jake, here are some points that are useful for avoiding spiritual confusion, and becoming a mature Christian believer: 

(1)  Those who acknowledge, adore, love, and worship GOD through Jesus Christ do so because they have received an endowment of divine spirit.  Substance from the make-up and person of GOD is deposited within the believer that transforms their self-awareness and living process.  (We say the believer is “born again.”)  Included as divine spirit content are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, joy, longsuffering, love, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

(2)  Created beings and living creatures lose their place within the sphere of divine existence only because their consciousness of divinity, their defining content, and their inner make-up becomes corrupt and defiled through sin.  The will of GOD is not subject to sin.  Sin has not been created by GOD, does not obey or respond to the will of GOD, and has no material or spirit substance.  Even so, sin has direction, effect and presence; and may dominate self-will in created beings and living creatures.  Sin opposes the existence of divine law, of Sacred Person, and of all that has been created of GOD.

(3)  While temporal feelings (i.e., emotions that come and go) such as anger, bitterness, fear, pride, resentment, self-approval, and uncertainty often characterize the wicked, divine judgment is founded upon eternal and unchanging principles, including those that have been proclaimed as divine law.  The focus of judgment is not upon behavior, conduct and episodes from angelic or human experience; actualities of existence and sacred process are examined, and identified for their fruitfulness, reverence, permanence, and continuance as perpetual.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4)  Christians are not sent to hell for any reason.  To be in Christ as a believer is to be already “cleared” in divine judgment, and to have place continuing in sacred processes of cleansing, correction, and sanctification.  While the challenges of sin continue in a believer’s human experience, sin can not terminate the workings of the Holy Spirit, and the sacred operation of perfection can not be concluded.  Every believer is being perfected—made holy, mature, immortal and incorruptible.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

The basis for deliverance, judgment, and salvation along with what happens to those who lack knowledge about GOD and Christ are topics, today.  Also, there is more on judgment as an aspect of divine revelation.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Lost Thyme” (Level 5 with 6,365 points, a member since April 11, 2010) posted the following:

What if you live in a place where you’ve never heard of God / Jesus? Will you go to hell?

THE BATTLE AXE:  Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013)— (6)  In divine judgment, the inner spirit of created beings and living creatures are identified as depicted through life records that detail their behavior and conduct (we say, “deeds” and “works”).  So to speak, all are rated and ranked according to aspects of conformity and likeness to the spiritual image of Christ; and focus is more upon what you are than what you do.  Simply that one attends church, makes donations to charities, or spends hours in prayer is not sufficient for eternal life.  Behavioral dimensions are examined such as authority, consistency, creativity, diligence, dutifulness, faithfulness, honesty, kindness, obedience, selflessness, sincerity, strength, and sweetness.  However, those selected to have permanent existence within the sphere of divine person must also display an acceptable measure of inseparable divine substance.  Thus, in addition to faith, holiness, humility, joy, longsuffering, righteousness, truth and wrath against sin, one of the most important features will be “charity” (also called “love”).  See Matthew 7:  21-23, KJV.  (7)  Like Creation, Judgment is accepted by believers as a defining aspect of what makes GOD a unique Divine Person.   Peace and restoration of order are the products of Judgment, not wars of conquest and expansion.  Judgment is always a benefit and blessing to Creation, for Judgment is the resolution of conflict, and the settlement of disputes through law.  Because law enforcement and rule through law may impose harsh penalties and severe punishment upon those who persist as rebels, many complain against Judgment and defy the law as being arbitrary, cruel, enslaving, excessive, unrighteous, and violent.  With law (the expressed will of GOD), Creation and Judgment will continue long after the destruction of those who oppose the existence of GODhead, and who promote continuing sin as freedom and personal liberty.   See Psalm 37:  1-40, Romans 8:  1-10, 1st Corinthians 13:  1-14, Galatians 5:  13-25, and Nahum 1:  7-9, King James Version.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;   I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.  And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom:  but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.  And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?   Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city:  wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?  That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked:  and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee:  Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?  And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.  And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:  Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous:  wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.  And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there.   And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.  And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak:  Peradventure there shall thirty be found there.   And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.  And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord:  Peradventure there shall be twenty found there.   And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake.  And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once:  Peradventure ten shall be found there.   And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.  And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham:  and Abraham returned unto his place.  (Genesis 18:  20-33, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A GOD of Love? (05/07/2013); Commanding the Storm? (05/08/2013); Repentance Must Come Before Resurrection (04/27/2013); Destroyed in Noah’s Flood (04/28/2013); Acknowledging Divinity? (03/30/2013); A Spirit Church? (04/04/2013); My Brother’s Keeper (04/05/2013); Understanding Hell (01/09/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013); All Know Gospel? (03/20/2011); Not Accepted? (01/03/2011); Doing Nothing? (01/04/2011) 

Dear Lost Thyme, here are some points of consideration often missed even by those who have embraced Christian belief for decades:

(1)  Deliverance, judgment, and salvation by GOD through Jesus Christ are sacred events that appear as divine self-expression (we say, grace), and are not caused by a person’s beliefs, their knowledge of doctrine, scriptures, and teachings, their intelligence, their opinions, or any aspect of their mental functioning , including their imagination, logic, memory, and reason.  Even so, those elements are vital for participation in families, sacred assemblies, congregations to serve the Lord, and worship communities.  Harmony is  fostered and further made possible only by collective experience, shared information, and common practice.

(2)  In the judgment of GOD, behavior and conduct are examined and focused upon only as material indicators for the absence or presence of spirit content from the make-up of GOD, who is a spirit.  While a person’s spirit content may be amplified or nourished by reading the Bible and completing religious studies, divine spirit cannot be acquired by any secular learning process.  The Holy Spirit must be imparted (sent forth from GOD); and may only be acquired through baptism (we may say, death of ones sinful nature, followed by rebirth from divine DNA).  More than simply a ceremony or ritual practiced only among believers within groups known as “churches,” baptism must be understood as a spiritual operation of GOD that may go out to all, everywhere, no matter what their belief system, economic status, language, or national origin.

(3)  As those who acknowledge Jesus as the Son of GOD, Christian believers enter into a covenant agreement that establishes an intimate and personal relationship with GOD; and believers do not continue to exist as abstract objects manufactured by a remote Creator.  Confidence, personal integrity, self-will, and volition (we say, choice) are aspects of continuing in right relationship.  However, because GOD is immortal, immutable, incorruptible, and unchanging, all believers are challenged to embrace godly disciplines, non-negotiable laws, limits, sacred duties, spiritual operations, and eternal purposes.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4)  At their Creation, all created beings and living creatures were endowed with spirit matter that was emanated and put forth from the person of GOD.  Through sin (we say, corruption and error) the will of the living is defiled and weakened.  GOD is not subject to sin, and sin is no material or spirit thing created by GOD.  Yet, sin has dominated self-will in created beings and living creatures.  Now, through Jesus Christ, added measures of divinity may be received that further enable mankind to detect, avoid and resist sin.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

      Divine love, justice, and condemnation are topics, today; and there is more on making church attendance mandatory. The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Ruan” (Level 1 with 61 points, a member since December 20, 2012) posted the following:

If God is a God of love, why does he send people to hell?

Really been thinking ’bout this!

THE BATTLE AXE: Church Mandatory? (05/06/2013)—(5.) Commitment, conviction and cooperation that are vital to full participation within a faith-based community must be the starting point and not the end goal for acknowledgment, service and worship of GOD. The device of mandatory school attendance for academic instruction and human socialization is usually imposed upon minors only, and those lacking experience and mature perspective for assessment of their life needs. Public schools are seen justified and legitimate in the light of shared personal goals, collective needs, and communal standards that are generated both outside of as well as within a municipality. By contrast, church schools function as instruments of GOD generating direction, form and structure for spirit content from Divine Person. Awareness of the direct operation, presence, and expressed will of GOD are to be increasingly acknowledged, and discerned through discovery and growth. Demands that are carnal, material and social must be made secondary and suppressed, for more than a simple transfer of data and information must occur. The believer must continue to acquire divine content through practice that provides increasing certainty and sacred person.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. (Exodus 20: 1-7, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: How To Love GOD (03/24/2013); A Second Adam? (03/25/2013); The Love of GOD (03/03/2013); Our Need for a Son (03/04/2013); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Not Even Sorry? (03/10/2013); Love in Christ (10/23/2012); Escape from Racism (10/24/2012); Justice Comes by Love? (10/01/2012); A Daily Revelation? (10/02/2012)

      Ruan, most mature Christian believers have also thought about how teachings about the love of GOD appear to contradict those about divine condemnation, and the need for righteous judgment. Here are some points that also should come into view:

(1.) In general, human love describes a balanced relationship between two persons having equality and legitimacy as peers, or among a group of persons sharing in unspoken agreement and social consensus (e.g., families, neighbors, tribes). Everyone does not love GOD; and all are not in a relationship of love to the Creator.

(2.) Accountability and duty within relationships for the Divine Person is greater than that demanded for created beings and living creatures. As the senior, eternal, indestructible, stronger and wiser, GOD must complete tasks, generate standards for truth, maintain ongoing process, manage recurring responsibilities, and provide constant guidance.

(3.) Correctly expressed, experienced and understood, love does not encourage, endorse, or multiply wrong-doing. In godly judgment, love appears as admonition, correction, forbearance, forgiveness, law, mercy, and punishment. It is love that the consequences for violation of the law (called “sanctions”) are published before any offense is committed, and choice is extended to all. It is love that punishment (i.e., clear action to establish awareness that relationship and trust are violated) is often meted without a total destruction of relationship.
     There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) It is the amazing grace and love from GOD through Jesus Christ that transform the abstract relationship between the Creator and mankind into working relationships as apostles, priests, prophets, kings and those who spread the Gospel and that also establish adoption and intimate relationship to divinity as children of GOD. The “broken” relationship that describes one as a sinner cannot be restored apart from Christ, and requires repentance provided only through the Holy Spirit. Where the remedies of Christ are refused, there must be the irreversible elimination of the sinner and of all sin in order to preserve and protect those loved by the Creator throughout the universe of GOD.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

Accepting biblical truth is the topic, today, and there is more on why GOD is concerned for humankind. The “Yahoo! Answers“ writer using ID “?” (Level 3 with 2,140 points, a member since August 17, 2012) posted the following:

How am I supposed to accept this in the Bible?

The Bible says that God eternally punishes those who do not believe him.*
Some will say, “no, it’s the devil punishing, not God. “

However, that is untrue.

In Revelations, it clearly states that God will destroy Hell.**

Yet, even after he destroys Hell, he just throws it and everyone in it into another place called the Lake of Fire.***

When I first heard this, I thought that maybe the Lake of Fire was like a place where it destroys your soul, because it’s the “second death,” therefor, you would be at peace and not in torment anymore.
But if you actually read the whole chapter, the Lake of Fire is no different from Hell. It is, again, a place of eternal torment and punishment.****


I cannot understand how God, not Satan, because God has also destroyed Satan at this point, would willingly punish people eternally simply for not believing in him.
That’s just screwed up I can find no excuse for it.
* = “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” – Matthew 25:46

** = “And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” – Revelations 20:14

*** = “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” – revelations 20:15

**** = “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” – Revelation 20:10

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>”truly Hell is too good for those who have done such an abomination and possess such attitudes that you are expressing.”

So saying that we should not eternally torture people who may have never even heard the gospel in the first place and may have lived really good lives is an “abomination”?

THE BATTLE AXE: Why Would GOD Worry About Us? (04/16/2013)—(5.) Mankind remains an aspect of full divine person, and will never be completely cast away and rejected by GOD. The imparted, indwelling Spirit from GOD imparts life, person, and other aspects of being. This is also demonstrated through the appearance of GOD in human flesh as Jesus of Nazareth. See Luke 24: 36-48, Acts 1: 6-11 and Ephesians 5: 30, KJV. (6.) Despite the ministry of GOD upon the earth and from the heavens, mankind continues to be unpredictable and unresponsive to the concessions, and provisions for reconciliation. Many continue to scorn divine provisions, including compassion, forgiveness, longsuffering and mercy. See again Deuteronomy 31: 24-29, 2nd Chronicles 24: 17-20, Isaiah 48: 1-11, Zechariah 7: 8-14 and Acts 7: 51, KJV.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. (Matthew 21: 33-44, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); GOD Knows Tomorrow (04/12/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); My Sheep Hear My Voice (03/08/2013); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Understanding Hell (01/09/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013); The “Lake of Mercy” (11/03/2012); Seeking and Being Sought (11/04/2012)

You (and all other created beings and living creatures) are supposed to accept it as a demonstration of the righteousness of GOD, by putting away your exaggerated ideas of your own importance, and acknowledging the Divine Person with humility and respect. You must challenge your apparent assumption that there is innocence for all others (like your own), such that none are now, or ever will be, deserving of severe punishment and termination of their existence. Although you may be a man of peace, had you, today, an enemy repeatedly attacking your family and home behind your back, contrary to all law enforcement efforts, deceiving, lying, violating every agreement from meetings to reason together, etc., etc., etc. you might well seek to save the lives of loved ones by trying to physically end all threat, and “removing the possibility for further dispute.”

It is the work of sin to deny, destroy and undo divine law, the integrity of created beings and living creatures, and the existence of Divine Person. Thus, it is also the work of the Creator to eliminate sin, recover all that have been tainted by sin, and establish the truth that sin will never rise again within the universe of GOD. Sacred operations on a divine scale must come into view. Included are birth, death, Incarnation, impartial yet thorough judgment, rebirth, repentance, resurrection, and sanctification.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers are granted a “divine point of view,” so to speak, with insights regarding sacred purposes. The Scriptures function the same way, granting believers sacred insights from thousands of human lives over the course of thousands of human events. Accepting GOD’s view becomes much easier once “born again” from divine DNA, that is, after having received his Holy Spirit. Ones anger on behalf of mankind, and their voice as spokesperson, prophet, and Champion of Compassion for humanity then takes on its correct weight, and eternal value.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

The reign of Solomon is the topic, today, and there is more on understanding the doctrines and teachings on hell. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Sleeping Beauty” (Level 1 with 11 points, a member since November 25, 2012) posted the following:

Why did Solomon bring the golden age of Israel instead of King David?

greatest king

THE BATTLE AXE: Understanding Hell (01/09/2013)—Hell is no place in divine order that compares to earth or heaven. As an aspect of what happens to the dead (from dust thou art, unto dust thou shalt return), we may think of hell as beneath the surface of the ground, and as being the earth itself. However, that does not begin to fully explain what becomes of ones spirit. There are no created beings, living creatures, or living spirits in hell. Even for clergy and mature believers it is very difficult to harmonize the many details and subtle truths that are the full doctrine of hell provided by the holy scriptures. It requires growth to higher levels of faith, and may take years of prayer and careful study. The difficulty is increased by the errors of those who do not believe in Christ as their savior, error from those who are practicing deliberate deception as servants to the Devil, and error from those who mean well and are misinformed, superstitious, or spiritually undereducated. Many promote the belief that hell is the place where Satan rules over sinners. However, that and similar ideas derive from powerful impressions made by amusements, entertainments and popular culture. Examples include folk tales, opera, and poetry such as “Paradise Lost,” Dante’s “Inferno” and Goethe’s “Faust.” In the same way the things recorded in the holy writings are not intended as a detailed biography of any person’s life, or a comprehensive history of human events, the Scriptures are not intended to explain the full details of birth, death, life, or damnation. The Scriptures provide peculiar frameworks and outlines that allow men to apprehend revelation and reassurances from GOD. GOD is not the author of confusion; and the goal of understanding is achieved only through diligence, endurance, love, and truth, never through bullying, deception, fear, or presumption.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. (John 18: 36-37, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Root of Jesse (01/03/2013); Newness of Spirit? (01/04/2013); Son of Man (11/28/2012); Given the Cloud of Witnesses (11/29/2012); The Priesthood of Kings (10/17/2012); Childlike Faith (10/18/2012); Lion of Judah (01/10/2011); Rich Yet Saved (11/11/2010)

May I share some Thoughts:

Many speak of King Solomon as having brought the “Golden Age” because during his reign the Temple at Jerusalem was begun and completed to serve as a permanent house of GOD that would replace the mobile, temporary shelter that was the Tabernacle fashioned under Moses. The Ark of the Testimony acknowledged as the judgment seat of GOD was separated from the Tabernacle during the reign of Saul; and the priesthood for the descendants of Aaron came under a curse through Eli and his sons. The anointing granted to David, and the inheritance to his heir, was therefore that of judge, king, priest and prophet.

Solomon is lauded as having completed many domestic projects to improve life within the nation. Included were the building of cities and stables, the establishment of trade and labor agreements with other nations, and a reputation for wisdom among other monarchs and rulers. During the reign of Solomon there was peace with most of the surrounding nations that repeatedly had waged war against Israel, including Egypt, the Moabites, and the Philistines. At least in part, this peace was the result of treaties for marriage: Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, under Solomon taxation was held to be extreme. When Solomon’s son, Rehoboam, came to the throne, Rehoboam refused to make any gesture or promise of relief. The Unified Kingdom was immediately dissolved, with 10 tribes electing to follow Jeroboam, a fugitive from Egypt, and only 2 remaining to the House of David.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


      Hell as the place of the dead is topic, today, along with more on when gossip becomes sin. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Alex” (Level 4 with 4,588 points, a member since October 7, 2012) posted the following:

I do not understand. Do people go to hell until revelations?

Well in revelations it seems to me people die and their soul gets sent to hades/sheol or death not hell. Then people are judged and thrown into the lake of fire which is hell. So right now when people die they do not go to hell in christian theology?

THE BATTLE AXE: When Does Gossip Become Sin? (01/08/2013)—Guided by the Scriptures, Christian speech is recognized by hope and plainness (2nd Corinthians 3: 11, KJV); by its content of doctrine, knowledge, prophecy and revelation (1st Corinthians 14: 6, KJV); by its prophetic purposes (comfort, edification, and exhortation) 1st Corinthians 14: 1-4, KJV; and by its love (1st Corinthians 13: 8-13, KJV). In general, Christian speech is intended to share confession of faith, healing, instruction, personal testimony, spirit content (such as holiness, humility, joy, longsuffering, righteousness and wrath against sin) as well as impartial witness. By contrast, gossip and slander are characterized by betrayal of trust; desire for distinction and personal power; exaggeration; exposing secrets; flattery, guile and trickery; pride; innuendo; seduction; and lack of concern for consequences and damage to others. (See Psalm 36: 2, Proverbs 13: 5, Proverbs 26: 17-28 and Proverbs 29: 10, KJV.) Truly Christian speech may include utterance by the Holy Spirit; and repeatedly encourages growth, life, praise, and giving thanks to GOD.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. (1st Corinthians 15: 50-58, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Place for Eternal Life? (01/06/2013); Therefore There Was Trust (01/07/2013); The Common Danger (01/02/2013); The Root of Jesse (01/03/2013); A Golden Ticket? (11/30/2012); And This Was Good News (12/01/2012); A Partnership? (11/05/2012); Doom (09/20/2012); Contradictions? (09/21/2012); Visions of Heaven (03/22/2012); Does GOD Need Worship? (03/23/2012)

      Some of the most difficult teachings for Christian believers are those that speak of hell. In part this is true because hell is not a physical place, and the “remains” of the dead are not only their lifeless bodies of flesh. More often than not, the teaching we receive comes from other persons, has been made very simple, and cannot clearly convey the full spiritual truth. For example, we are often told that hell is the grave (the place of burying); however, all who died are not given a formal funeral, and are not buried in the earth or at sea. Even so, the deceased are all said to be in hell. When describing hell as the place of torment, the dead are repeatedly spoken of as if they have awareness, feeling, and sensation—that is, as if they are alive. Also, the witness of John, who was granted visions in heaven, reports the souls of them that were slain for the word of GOD, that cried out from beneath the altar. These were not fully restored and resurrected; yet, are not easily spoken of as being in hell (see Revelation 6: 8-10, KJV).

      The Spirit of GOD that now leads men in spiritual understanding of divine intent encourages us to focus more upon eternal life than upon the state of the dead, or the state of the damned. There are many things in the fullness of Creation, and the reality of a universe maintained by sovereign GOD, that will always be outside of experience and knowledge for created beings and living creatures (Deuteronomy 29: 29, KJV). What we are given centers in divine law, the Gospel, and judgment in accordance with law and the gospel.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, what you seem to call “the revelations” is the harvesting of the earth that others call Advent, the Second Coming, and the Rapture. This is not “the end of the world.” The events prophesied and described in Scripture that speak of the first and second death with judgment before the thrones of GOD—the raising of the dead, the final destruction of sinners—pertain to continuing Creation, and fulfillment of divine intent that there be eternal life.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

      The value of reading Scripture to nourish ones soul is a focus, today, along with more on the various names given Lucifer. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Faiz” (Level 1 with 99 points, a member since December 5, 2012) posted the following:

How the reading is the food of soul?

THE BATTLE AXE: The Adversary? (12/05/2012)—In the same way sin was first identified through Lucifer, complaints by created beings and living creatures of being bullied, denied “free-will,” and victimized by law and judgment also originated through the angelic being and his followers. The Scriptures document a principle that, upon profound change in ones sacred function, spirit content, or worship relationship they are to be known by a new name. Examples are Elohim, El Shaddai, and Jehovah; Abram and Abraham; Jacob and Israel; Lucifer and Satan; and the promise for those who overcome of a new name within a white stone (Revelation 2: 17, KJV). In Scripture, Abaddon is a different being from Lucifer; and is identified as king of the angels who were imprisoned in the “bottomless pit” after their transgression (Revelation 2: 9 and 11: 7, KJV). It is this abyss that men mistakenly describe as the place of torment (hell) beneath the surface of the earth. It is Sheol, the grave, that is more correctly understood as the bottomless pit for mankind; and the actual place of burning where unclean spirits are destroyed is called the lake of fire. Lucifer and the others lost their first estate; yet, their arguments, challenges, grievances and protests against GOD may be heard and recognized daily among men. While Lucifer has no authority to impart spirit matter to the living (or to the dead), he nevertheless has allure and influence that are mistakenly taken to be divine power. The revelation of GOD through covering cherubim has been superseded by the revelation of GOD incarnate, and the seating of Jesus in human flesh as risen Lord.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers. And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no. And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. (Deuteronomy 8: 1-3, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Golden Ticket? (11/30/2012); And This Was Good News (12/01/2012); A Text for Lives Today (11/25/2012); Pornography from the Bible (11/26/2012); Bibles in Hotel Rooms? (03/30/2012); Some To Rule? (03/31/2012); Support For The Bible (03/11/2012); Binder 6: The Plan Of This Work (10/03/2011); Binder 4: Getting To Know The Scriptures (10/01/2011); Binder 3: A Commitment To The Scriptures (09/30/2011)

      It is the faith (i.e., confidence, conviction, trust) of many mature believers that the holy writings are directed to ones inner spirit, and operate through spiritual dimensions as well as the mental, physical and social realities of life. As such, the Scriptures convey spirit matter that resides within divine person. Included are such features as forgiveness, holiness, humility, joy, longsuffering, righteousness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

      Because some insist the Scriptures are merely products of human creativity and imagination that should only be regarded as history, literature, mythology or poetry, there continues to be a longstanding tradition of confusion, disbelief, opposition and skepticism. However, those who carefully read, assume the attitudes expressed, and practice the instruction from the Scriptures always achieve godliness and spiritual maturity.

      While we use language that speaks of “the soul” being “nourished” as if eating and drinking (operations of flesh) are intended, a sacred process whereby spirit matter is concentrated, directed, and displayed is really the true focus. Man became a “living soul” when GOD breathed into a figure made from dust of the ground (Genesis 2: 7, KJV). The breath of life from GOD that makes humankind possible is also called speech, utterance, and the Word.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, growth and learning by experience are unique features of humankind. Angels, the sacred beasts of heaven, and many other created beings and living creatures are complete and “finished” in their knowledge. That is, at their creation, they were endowed with all the information and understanding to function correctly in the course of their service and worship. They were not granted knowledge of events and issues pertaining to sin, repentance, and salvation; yet, sin first appeared among them, before being detected in the earth. Those of the heavenly host are not understood as having souls. Nonetheless, their make-up and substance is also being transformed by the ministry of Jesus to mankind. More than simply reading and academic study, the process of GOD is shown to be one of hearing, praise, seeing, service, testimony and witness.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


      Whether or not one may escape hell by reading the Bible is addressed today, along with more on the scale of acceptance for the resurrection of Jesus. The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Mystaku” (Level 4 with 3,733 points, a member since January 6, 2011) posted the following:

Christians : Question on John 12:47-49 – Did I interpret it correctly?

So I had asked the question “Christians : If a hindu reads the bible & chooses to remain a hindu & not accept christ will he go to hell?”;…

And one of the answers had the verse from John 12:47-49

47 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. 49 For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it.

So this means that anyone who has read the bible but has chosen not to accept jesus/bible, he/she will be ‘condemned till the last day” aka eternal torture in hell?

If you believe that a good person will go to heaven regardless of whether or not he/she has read the bible and/or follows/rejects jesus, are you saying that this verse from John is wrong?

THE BATTLE AXE: Given the Cloud of Witnesses (11/29/2012)—The holy writings and the indwelling spirit always agree; and by their combined testimony every believer experiences the exact same awareness given to an eyewitness. (See Isaiah 43: 8-12 and 44: 6-9, KJV.) In modern society, many declare that spiritual truth must come by personal understanding, and to that extent, belief is achieved in isolation, and may not depend upon trusting others. Many events from sacred history are recorded in the Bible that foretell and attest to the resurrection of Jesus. From the death of Abel and birth of Seth, to the account of Jonah delivered from the belly of a great fish, and to the raising of Lazarus, there are innumerable sacred documents of “witness” to the resurrection of Jesus as Christ and Messiah. However, the holy writings only permit shared focus and language to make visible a witness that is itself divine person residing within a believer. The conclusive proof and testimony a believer desires must come as spiritual substance from GOD, and is more than merely a record of extraordinary behavior, exchanges and social interactions. Believers, therefore, have been given clarifications that include John 5: 36-37, John 7: 16-18, 1st John 2: 20-27 and 1st John 5: 1-13, King James Version.)

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1st Corinthians 1: 18, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Believing Everything? (11/23/2012); Attending Church? (11/12/2012); Does Everyone Go To Heaven? (10/28/2012); Magick and Prayer (10/29/2012); Sin Unknown? (10/10/2012); The Gender of Angels (10/09/2012); A Man in Heaven? (09/23/2012); By Grace (09/04/2012); Shaken Once More (08/22/2012)

      When a reader properly appreciates the holy writings (i.e., places the correct value upon them), it becomes clear that they are making more than a simple choice of pancakes for breakfast instead of waffles, and they are not just getting a “golden ticket” to heaven. The carnal, material and fleshy decisions are overshadowed by the weight of divine imperatives, and eternal issues. To a beginner, the full spectrum of divine person that finally is revealed cannot be recognized. More than this, beginners may fail to grasp that they are entered into a continuous process of transformation whereby GOD reconfigures their spirit makeup. The Gospel and other teachings infused with the Holy Spirit are more than an evidence or “foot-print” that records where the divine presence once existed. The Scriptures are an immediate and present appearance of Divine Person using the forms (i.e., body, incarnation) of utterance. Included are pledges, praises, prayers, proclamations, promises, and prophecies.

      Where one embraces the word from GOD as did James, John and the Apostle Paul, “to believe” means more than simply “to hold an idea” or “to support a peculiar statement.” Believing is an aspect of realizing what you are, and how you exist. Thus, believing is not at the level of an intellectual exercise, meditation and mental gymnastics. Also, ideas of argument, debate and self-expression are inappropriate. Believing pertains to faith, a divine substance that exists only within the fullness of spirit-person that men now speak of as “GOD.” Faith is inseparable from such other sacred content as glory, holiness, humility, joy, love, wisdom and wrath against sin. (So to speak, you can’t find one without the other.)

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, believers must “die to sin,” be re-born, grow and mature before they completely leave behind the flawed human idea of “good person” to direct their own choices and decisions after the model of Jesus. Various operations of the Holy Spirit must occur within them including illumination, insight, regeneration, and sanctification. Only ones beginnings may be regarded as simple and childlike. For believers are dealing with the grand issues of the universe: being, cause, consciousness, existence, knowing, origins, and eternal sovereignty.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

      The old idea of an alliance between GOD and the devil to punish sinners, and more on spiritual seeking and being spiritually sought are examined, today. The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Charles” (Level 2 with 265 points, a member since September 10, 2012) posted the following:

Christians, is the devil allies with God since the devil is still going to punish the sinners in hell too?

THE BATTLE AXE: Seeking and Being Sought (11/04/2012)—There are many features of the earth that prevent the exercise of dominion by any created being or living creature apart from Almighty GOD. Divine process within the earth goes forward through frameworks of time and space. Life for mankind, therefore, is not continuous, and goes forward by activity that does not endure, and that is by episodes, discrete events, and occurrences with frequent interruptions. Various limitations identify mankind including frailty (that bones break), mortality, muscular exhaustion that demands rest and refreshing, the cycle of sleeping and waking along with disease and sickness. What we call “sovereign rule” by GOD, in fact, is the imparting of life, awareness, and both actual and potential being. All things that exist do not also have life; the living are endowed with spirit content that appears through such features as consciousness, person, and self-will. The operation of the imparted, indwelling Spirit is the government by Almighty GOD that generates (1) obedience to divine law (2) acknowledgment and worship (3) expression of divine person within and by the created as well as (4) union and a continuing bond to the Creator. Saying this another way: One exists only as an emanation from divine will, and the sacred person of GOD. Those living in the earth need make no search for GOD as if he is lost, and must be recovered. Men need only function, fulfill their purpose, complete their mortality, and correctly occupy their given place in divine order. What men are forced to seek is assurance, certainty and confidence in what is otherwise invisible and unknowable to themselves. Mankind must embrace the continuous revelation of GOD through activity, behavior, commitment, experience, social interaction, and spiritual purification.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. (Revelation 12: 7-12, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Spirit Matter (10/21/2012); Sin Unknown? (10/10/2012); The Spirit by Measure (09/22/2012); Coveting the Throne (03/07/2012); A New Earth (02/14/2012); On Being Careful (02/13/2012); Girdle 32: Worship GOD (12/17/2011); Binder 18: Eternal Life (10/15/2011)

      Mature believers who have had to answer this question for the sake of their own faith and understanding generally agree the Lord wants them and his church to share the following:

      The Devil is not now or ever will be an independent being who rules over mankind in the heaven, in the earth, under the earth, or in the seas. While the beginnings of the Adversary (as he is called) were as a prince and ruler in heaven, he has lost authority, estate, and legitimate place there through sin. The devil continues as a finite being, who is not endowed with either mortality or immortality. More than this, he and those who support and surround him are not endowed with all knowledge, with the human ability to increase knowledge by growing and learning through experience, or with the ability to foresee and create the future. The full measure of knowledge they would use throughout their functioning and service was supplied to them at their creation; and in that sense, the angels are complete, finished and sealed.

      The angels were not given a knowledge of sin, or an ability to repent from sin through the operation of an imparted, indwelling spirit from GOD as we see granted to mankind by the ministries of Jesus Christ. The angels all continue to have their being as a dispensation of GOD. The holy scriptures do not describe the angels as having any agenda to interact with mankind except at the direct command of GOD. Their legitimate service includes visitation as divine messengers as well appearing as destroyers who enforce sacred law and divine judgment against sin. Heavenly beings in rebellion against the divine will for mankind generally do so through the manipulation of humans promoting corruption, deceit, disobedience, fear, ignorance, lies, unbelief, and violence.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, hell is not a place where created beings and living creatures are alive, and continue to have the abilities and features of divine endowment that made them what they formerly were (e.g., angels, animals, humans). Those that enter the lake of fire do so merely as rubbish, and only continue there until the fire goes out—when everything to fuel it is completely burned up.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC