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penitence and true sorrow for sin

A depiction of penitence and sorrow for sin

 

Today, reply is on the sacred process provided for members within the church to edify and encourage one another to realize the workings of sin within ones own life. Because the operations of sin appear through the flesh and multiple life events that appear natural and normal (e.g., appetite, sensation, emotion/mind), sinners often approve sin as the expression of their true self, not something alien, contrary to their divine nature, or something to be condemned. One of the most important benefits the church provides to a developing believer, therefore, is communication, feedback and input that will expose sin, and encourage its recognition, resistance against sin, and a full rejection of sin. Correctly understood, the church is not intended to exist as a gathering place for entertainment and recreation, a center to address problems of poverty and social welfare, or a venue housing a collection of support groups for meeting life challenges (e.g., addiction, indebtedness, mental health issues, single parenting, nourishing healthy sexual development). As with those who belong to the consecrated body, what those outside of the membership regard as coldness, hostility, indifference, judging others, and unfriendliness should be discerned instead as the expression of divine love appearing as discipline, correction, wrath against sin, and the workings of divinity that establish the new creation of Jesus Christ. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile was shared) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians self-righteously condemn, attack & kick weaker & newer Christians down, when they sin, rather than building them up?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.(Hebrews 12: 6-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Judgment Against The Canaanites (08/01/2018); Be Not Unequally Yoked (04/16/2018); Divine Law Is Demanding (04/10/2018); Etiquette Within The Church? (03/16/2018); Duties of a Christian? (03/13/2018); Caution! Work In Progress (10/19/2017); Divine Wrath Against Sin? (10/17/2017); Temporal and Eternal Judgment (02/15/2017)

 

Anonymous”, here are some points to consider that are being shared within the church of Jesus Christ among sinners who have voluntarily chosen to become Christian believers:

1. Just as the existence and origin of divine fullness (we say, the sum and totality of divine substance; the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) is a mystery that can not be explained on the basis of things carnal, material, mechanical or social, sin continues to be an enigma that has no origin or substance from divinity, yet, may have dominion over the consciousness and self-will of created beings and living creatures. Sin has is no material or tangible thing that exists, yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.

2. Sin is irrational (i.e., does not operate according to carnal reason, intelligence, knowledge, or logic). Sin promotes nonexistence, is self-destructive, and works to re-restore the conditions of chaos, flux, and the confusion that were in place before the founding of heaven and earth. Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Lawgiver, and all divine order throughout the universe.

3. Sinners and many of those who become developing believers are at first blind (i.e., can not see that sin opposes their own existence and is contrary to their own true nature as created beings and vessels of sacred life essence (we also say, breath; spirit; word) from the makeup of GOD). All developing believers must be given experience and instruction regarding things that are natural before they correctly begin to experience things that are spiritual. New believers must be given practical experience and practice of discernment that includes censure, chastisement, correction, and rebuke before they may be confirmed as believers, and correctly recognize and respond to sin in ways that indicate maturity (i.e., acceptance of accountability, balance, commitment, completeness, consistency, growth, sobriety, stability).

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, not only must new believers be shown their own errors in attitude, behavior or conduct and their transgressions of divine law, they must be helped to discover, realize, and come to sorrow for their own sins before they are truly Christlike, fully bear the image of GOD, and are useful as those who have received salvation.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on a shared challenge of human development, that children manage judging others and restrain anger against their own parents. Among Christian believers, exaggerated pride, behaving in ways that are hateful, unwillingness to forgive, and spiritual wickedness can not be disguised or justified through claims of childhood abuse, cruelty, injustice, and mistreatment by ones parents. Given that otherwise hidden emotions that are openly shown to family are always accounted as the most authentic expressions of who we are, many rely on expressing their feelings as a primary tool for child-rearing; however, behavior driven primarily by feelings quickly becomes irrational and unbalanced. A childs view of reality is not always distorted by fantasy, imagination, and immaturity. Even so, when pressured to condemn others (i.e., deny their humanity, value, and worth), children too are challenged to account for damage, pain, and streams of truth in the lives of those accused that can be invisible and unseen to those lacking adult and godly perspective. Children who continue a grudge against their parents by refusing to forgive and rise above the errors in their youth continue with baggage and bitterness, may not remain guiltless, and may ultimately destroy the best possibilities of their own opportunities as adults. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality public forum using the ID “Breakthrough” (Level 6 with 15,408 points, a member since June 29, 2013) posted the following:

 

Do I have a right to be angry at my mom?

My mom didn’t want children and gave birth to me so my dad would stay married to her and I’m the only child she has

She has mistreated me and tried to sabotage my life ever since I was old enough to talk

When I was in high school I was trying hard to get into a good university and my mother told me that instead of trying to go to university I should just sleep with men for cash since its easier

She also denied me medical treatment when I had 2 diseases at the age of 9 because she wanted me to suffer

Today I made a mess in the living room by accident and my mother starts yelling at me and telling me how I’m a waste of time and resources because every week she has to waste her time doing things to help me

I was angry at her for having that type of attitude towards her child

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city. (Proverbs 16: 32, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Divine Forgiveness and Justice (01/01/2019); Discipline and Sacred Meekness (11/30/2018); A Possible “Home Remedy?” (11/08/2018); Conversation In The World (04/03/2018); Starting A New Life? (11/21/2017); What Young People Need? (06/26/2017); Becoming A Full Person (02/12/2017); Benefiting From Your Childhood? (11/18/2016)

 

Breakthrough”, here are some points to consider. All have come short—both parents and children—and few display the perfection intended by GOD. In the course of their communication, exchange, and interaction as life companions, there are many times when parents and their children will offend one another. Even so, it will be the primary goal of children who are developing as Christian believers to become Christ-like, and to continually display the image of GOD. In the same way becoming adult and growing up requires multiple changes, discovery, gradual growth, and learning, a young person becomes complete and full as a Christian by meeting life challenges on the earth that apply and make visible the inseparable aspects of spirit substance they will contain that are provided from the makeup of GOD. Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Even those who are very young should be encouraged to express and practice attitudes and life skills that eventually will bear fruit as ministry to the lives of others. The young also are to prepare for the Advent of Jesus Christ and become ripe for harvest by the Lord at his appearing (we also say, the Rapture; the Second Coming). Teens and young adults who become impatient with the process of the church to provide instruction and support, often despair and leave before receiving the blessings, divine tools, and practical understandings they will need to operate successfully in the face of adult hardships, trials, and suffering. In general, the anger a child expresses against the conduct of their caretakers also expresses ignorance of conditions and the destructive presence of intense emotional, psychological and spiritual pressures that their parents may routinely encounter. Just as the heads of the family are to heal and dress the wounds of others within the home, the children are members of the household emergency response team and may have to serve as crisis assistants and “first-responders” for their parents, siblings, and others having place in their lives.

Maturity (i.e., balance, consistency, sobriety, soundness, stability) among Christians is discerned in the acceptance of accountability; commitment; carrying out and fulfilling ones own word of agreement and promise; correct use of sacred knowledge, secular knowledge, and the proper observance of sacred practices (sacraments) as well as the display of forgiveness and restraint. Consider again the following that shares instruction for those within the household of faith and uses language from the Bible:

1. Ecclesiastes 7: 9, King James Version (KJV): 9 Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

2. Ephesians 4: 25-27, KJV: 25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. 26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27 Neither give place to the devil.

3. Ephesians 4: 29-32, KJV: 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

4. James 1: 19-22, KJV: 19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 5. Ezekiel 18: 20-23, KJV: 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on appetite, celibacy, the flesh, and human sexuality. Given sexual experience and expression are held to be personal and private the errors that appear among Christians often include failure to practice according to divine standards, not relying only upon godly counsel and the practice of secrecy regarding our human needs and problems. Thus, for example, many have taught that the word “burn” in the counsel from the Apostle Paul (better to marry than burn” may be replaced with “desire”, “endure frustration,” and “lust”overlooking that it also means “despair”. That all have sinned and come short of GODs glory is true in part not simply because they have lost their virginity; rather, it is because so many have experienced defilement, loss of purity, and spiritual confusion through their own sexual experiences. Even so, it is the faith of mature Christian believers that through the grace of GOD in Christ along with redemption and salvation believers can receive correction, healing, reconciliation, restoration and willpower (mastery) over ones own human sexuality. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality public forum who uses the ID “johnsmith2025 ( Cavs Fan )” (Level 7 with 45,976 points, a member since October 14, 2007) posted the following:

 

Is masterbation acceptable? (please read the details)?

Is it okay if a single Catholic man of 35 masturbates?

If he has a healthy libido and needs frequent ejaculations (approximately 1,000 per year), and he is Catholic and happens to be single, is it Catholically permissible for him to engage in such masturbation for the relief he needs??

Update: I accidentally misspelled it. Sorry about that.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. (Hebrews 13: 3-6, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Gift Of GOD (10/15/2018); Knowing What To Believe? (12/31/2017); Thoughts on Sexual Relationships (03/07/2017); Why Is Lust Condemned? (07/20/2016); Flesh Against the Spirit? (06/19/2016); On Controlling Lust (01/05/2016); The Mistakes In Youth? (08/24/2015); Masturbation and Religion? (02/01/2015)

 

johnsmith2025 ( Cavs Fan )”, here are some points mature Christians are challenged to consider when focusing on human sexual behavior:

(1.) Among mankind the possibilities for existence and life on the earth permit diverse forms of expression that are animal, human, and divine (we say, anointed; Christlike; godly; sanctified) in their character, makeup, purpose, and substance.

(2.) Sexual desire gains strength and continues throughout ones development until they complete their own mortality.

(3.) Auto-eroticism (we say, masturbation; self-stimulation) and all sexual feeling incorrectly are judged and condemned as “sin” by many who acknowledge GOD through Christ. (For example, the counsel from the Apostle Paul to couples regarding fornication (i.e., defilement of ones spirit makeup through sexual joining) and premarital sex that often is used mistakenly to commend celibacy, “It is better to marry than burn.”)

(4.) Sexual expression as social behavior can be accounted (i.e., judging others) as infantile (i.e., driven by curiosity, ignorance, immaturity, and selfishness), or mature (balanced, disciplined, purposeful, and stable).

(5.) As explained by medicine and science, reproduction is both an animal and human function generated within the flesh by such elements as enzymes, hormones, organs, and tissues. Reproduction usually requires the imparting and transfer of cellular material through intercourse. However, the joining and outcomes that follow will be on multiple levels: emotional; physical; psychological; and spiritual.

(6.) Godly sexual expression acknowledges multiple realities of divine order, sacred intent, and eternal purpose. Included are family; inheritance; joining spirit substance; priesthood; and reproducing spirit substance. For desire responds to intellect and reasoning in a fixed and reliable way only where there is strong discipline and restraint.

(7.) The animal operations of appetite for sexual fulfillment are like those for hunger and thirst. They appear as aspects of ones carnal being from before their birth, and will increase their influence and presence within ones consciousness as well as their potency against a person’s self-will (willpower). In this way, sex operates like sin that opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Lawgiver, and divine order throughout the universe: There can be the domination of consciousness and self-will.

(8.) The operations of animal sexual desire (we also say, lust; passion) are not simple. Desires that proceed as mechanical and natural process may be aroused, yet, not be satisfied through mental activity (e.g., fantasy; imagination; recall).

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (9.) The emotional, physical, and psychological process of sexual development compares to the process of new life in Christ for those “born again”, because both require discovery that may be through trial and error, gradual growth, focused practice, and even the enduring of disappointment, hardship and suffering.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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CNS photograph/Paul Haring published with “Letters from the Synod-2018: October 19” – Reports and Commentary, from Rome and Elsewhere, on the XV Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops by Xavier Rynne II: downloaded 11: 38 AM, 10/19/2018 from the Catholic Herald Internet site @ http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2018/10/19/letters-from-the-synod-2018-october-19/

 

 

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Today, the reply is on the differences between divine and human qualifications for serving GOD through Jesus Christ. In the same way many refuse to label gossip, innuendo, lying, and slander as the work of the devil, and are willing to view verbal aggression as acceptable among mankind, many believers want to avoid a conclusion that divorce is a sin, or that social behavior is a genuine indicator of ones spiritual condition. Yet, within the church, it may not be denied that patterns of behavior emerge in keeping with having spirit content from the makeup of divinity. Included are gradual growth, permanent change, learning, repentance, and stability. Multiple incidents that display forswearing commitment, immaturity, breach of promise, and self-contradiction do not encourage mutual respect and trust. Even when considering the recent events in government hearings regarding the Supreme Court, the sacred principles and process provided by Jesus Christ should be in effect, for only they continue to mark and set apart those who belong to the Lord as his disciples and followers. The goals to comfort, heal, and show compassion are rarely achieved by complaining, continuing accusations from ones past, law enforcement investigations, or political manipulation that emerge from the flesh. Fitness to serve in the divine priesthood (we say, being ceremonially clean; purity) should appear among all those receiving atonement and sharing themselves as living sacrifices where Jesus Christ is named as High Priest. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality public forum who uses the ID “Patty” (Level 1 with 95 points, a member since October 01, 2018) posted the following:

 

An assistant pastor has been divorced 2 times. Is single at this time. Is he qualified to hold this position in the church?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. (1st Peter 4: 14-19, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Bible Definitions Of Sin (09/30/2018); Those Apt To Teach? (06/20/2018); Standards For Godly Behavior (02/01/2018); Caution! Work In Progress (10/19/2017); All Have Come Short (10/11/2017); Sanctify Yourselves for Tomorrow (05/07/2017); Temporal and Eternal Judgment (02/15/2017); Servants To The Body? (01/17/2017)

 

Patty”, because the operations and process of the church must be different from that for the World, among many Christian believers, your question will be understood as asking “Is the assistant pastor faithful (i.e., filled with the Holy Spirit)?” There is a danger when judging those who seem to be sent by GOD and to be the Lord’s anointed (e.g., clergy; evangelists; prophets) that GOD will be unjustly accused. On surface, we should expect that human behavior focusing on things carnal, material, secular, and social will not be same as that expressing accountability, commitment, and devotion to GOD. In the church, such elements as forbearance, forgiveness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, reverence, wisdom, and wrath against sin are to be understood as making visible the character, makeup, and substance of divinity; and are to routinely appear within those who are born again as tools and vessels of the “active presence” whom we honor as our GOD. Discerning faith and the other inseparable aspects imparted to indwell mankind from the divine fullness (we say, the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) is a sacred process that pertains to being in accord, acknowledgment, “oneness” without “sameness,” recognition, and the display of godliness.

Behavior in marriage includes the expression of appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings) and sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching) along with communicating emotion/mind (e.g., anger, fantasy, fear, recall). Only where marriage acknowledges a joining to divinity (we say, holy matrimony; sacred union; the two become one flesh, and GOD is the other) are we correct to expect to see the expressions of rebirth that include completeness,maturity, obedience to divine law, sacred practice (we say, sacraments), sobriety, and unselfish service.

For those existing as the church, the body of Christ on the earth, ongoing judgment establishes the resolution of conflicts and the settlement of disputes through the application of divine law. In addition to impartiality, judgment must display balance, consistency, mercy, restraint, and righteousness. Correction and restoration are more the objectives of judgment than displaying disfavor or punishment. As an aspect of revelation, judgment further proclaims the personhood and sovereign will of divinity. Forgiveness may respond to (yet does not cancel) the sanctions against sin that are written within the law. Resurrection of the dead permits all to appear before GOD in required living tribunals. Thus, touching judgment, circumspection and discretion are to appear with openness and thoroughness; the confidentiality and secrecy of confession and private prayer may not appear. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.) Malachi 3: 13-18, King James Version (KJV): 13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee? 14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts? 15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered. 16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. 17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. 18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

(2.) 1st Corinthians 2: 9-15, KJV: 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

(3.) Matthew 18: 15-17, KJV: 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) Matthew 5: 13, KJV: 13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, the reply speaks to introspection, and wrongly judging oneself and others as aspects of spiritual growth among Christians. Because the GOD who bestows forgiveness, mercy, and salvation also is the GOD who advances law and sacred practice while condemning sin, becoming full persons who continue in an ongoing relationship with divinity now requires that a developing believer continually respond to aspects of divine judgment. Along with demands within sacred covenant, promises, prophecy and eternal purpose elements are required such as completeness, godliness, impartiality, and righteousness. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum (no profile is shared) posted the following:

 

Why does the joke of a christian ( my dad ) think he is morally superior to me because i smoke a very rare joint?

I am 21 and I live on my own. My dad is an alcoholic and he poaches animals but yet somehow he feels morally superior to me because I’ll smoke a joint with my uncle at a cookout or something. It’s like ” don’t play the moral high card with me when i know the **** you do when nobody is looking”.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. (Colossians 3: 1-15, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Believers Must Become “Ripe” (09/02/2018); Serving In Christian Relationships (08/31/2018); Repentance Among Christian Believers (07/06/2018); Deposits Of Sacred Substance (06/27/2018); When Speaking Of Christlikeness (06/25/2018); Transformation Not Obedience Alone (07/02/2017); Become Like Jesus Christ? (10/27/2016);

 

Anonymous”, here are some points mature Christians are willing to keep in mind:

Because searching for GOD, and acknowledging the needs for spiritual redemption and salvation through Jesus Christ often begin only after careful thought, reflection, and self-examination, many mistakenly operate as though the process of becoming Christlike relies on such finite human tools as intellect, logic, philosophy, carnal reason, science, and ones own willpower. Some become entangled within a cycle where they repeatedly focus on themselves, their own sins and their own shortcomings, rather than maintain focus on the character and merits of Jesus Christ. Also, being inexperienced and unskilled when displaying and sharing the gifts of spirit substance from GOD (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, wrath against sin), many become destructively self-critical; indulge self-pity; and acquire the habit of presuming to challenge, condemn, and correct the attitudes and conduct of others.

Sinners who become “born again” also must “grow up again” by meeting life challenges and “growing pains” while living on the earth. Developing believers only become full, mature (i.e., balanced, complete, consistent, stable), and ripe for harvest by the Lord Jesus (we say, Advent, his appearing, the Rapture, the Second Coming) as the result of edification, gradual growth and operations of the Holy Spirit that may appear as personal discovery, enduring hardships and reversals, fellowship with other Christians, prayer, study of the holy writings, unselfish service, and more. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.) Matthew 7: 1-5, King James Version (KJV): 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

(2.) Romans 14: 4, KJV: 4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

(3.) 2nd Corinthians 13: 5, KJV: 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

(4.) Ephesians 4: 11-16, KJV: 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (5.) Ephesians 4: 31-32, KJV: 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, topics include discipline, divine order, judging others, sacred rule, and sanctification within the church.  A little poison does not kill only a spot on a person’s tongue, or in their stomach; the life of the entire body becomes at risk.  The church of Jesus Christ is a very sensitive and sophisticated sacred body.  Sinners are to receive and respond to divine spirit substances that encourage permanent changes in their character, makeup, and personhood that will allow them to function as the new creation through Jesus Christ.  Once born again, developing believers must remain vigilant against threats that arise within their own local congregation as well as those that come from outside the body through diverse agents and institutions.  The dangers are not so much having to repel personal attacks, emotional conflicts, quarrels and physical violence as the damage by errors in sacred doctrine and practice along with spiritual confusion.  All have sinned and are in a sacred process of discovery, gradual growth, regeneration, and renewal that places members on different levels of duty, knowledge, opportunity, maturity, readiness, skill, and understanding.  Occasionally, rededication and revival must be encouraged for selected members by separation to eliminate worldly distractions (we say, shunning).  Thereby, their heartfelt works of cleansing, fasting, learning, meditation, and prayer may go to new levels of concentration and self-will directed by GOD.  One of the many fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who use the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

How does God feel about shunning and why do you think it is right or wrong?

Update: Jay– thank you for comment that shows the love of Jesus.

As for first comment it is sad and please do not disrespect the faith of others and if you choose to live a life without faith then mostly sadness is what many get who doubt.
Update 2: There are many reasons some shun and would like to hear some more answers please.
Update 3: There are some family members I would like to dedicate this question to and wonder if they even know what Godly love is?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent:  for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season.  Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance:  for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.  For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:  but the sorrow of the world worketh death.  For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.  Wherefore, though I wrote unto you, I did it not for his cause that had done the wrong, nor for his cause that suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear unto you.  (2nd Corinthians 7:  8-12, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Diversity Within The Body (04/13/2018); Divine Law Is Demanding (04/10/2018); Christianity Is A Relationship (04/05/2018); The Meaning of “Faith” (03/28/2018); Must GOD Hate Sinners? (09/01/2016); Judgment Focused On Content? (08/30/2016); Oneness, Not Equality or Rank? 07/16/2015); How To Renew The Mind (11/22/2013); Repentance Must Come Before Resurrection (04/27/2013); Destroyed in Noah’s Flood? (04/28/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, the church founded by Jesus Christ as the new creation serves a GOD who is Creator, Deliverer, Redeemer, Savior, a GOD of Love, and a GOD of Judgment.  The process of divine tribunal has already begun for those who are a habitation of GOD through the Spirit, and will continue to the Advent (we say, the harvest, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  Many developing believers are being examined and sealed at this very hour.  In my understanding as a Christian, shunning comes into view not as an act of GOD; it is a collective act by the church as a full body to admonish, censure, and reprimand (yet not disgrace, dishonor, excommunicate, or punish) those members who are not upholding their duties, their pledges, and their obligations as part of the full assembly.  When children in the home neglect the chores they have been assigned by their parents, action must be taken to correct their understanding of why the task is necessary, and its importance and value to the household as well as how to correctly and more quickly complete the task along with whatever cleanup it may involve.  The sacred and prophetic works that come into view are edification and exhortation.  There should be communication that includes correction, demonstration, instruction, and “walk-through”.  While there is a focus on behavior modification and change, the primary goal for all members of the body is spiritual growth that is gradual, and that occurs in the most lasting way through discovery, fellowship, and sacred practice.

The church exists as a divinely provided mechanism to guide sinners to becoming Christ-like.  Yet, many request membership within the church as a means to self-development, self-expression, and self-promotion (some say, freedom; expressing free-will) that expands or extends aspects of their own inborn character and nature, not the endowments and gifts imparted at baptism and rebirth from the makeup of GOD (e.g., faith, holiness, humility, longsuffering, lovingkindness, purity, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin).

Both for the church to exist and for the church to “bear fruit” as a planting of GOD, the multiple differences and variations that appear among believers must become manifest as oneness without sameness.  Saying this another way, in addition to showing respect and speaking the truth throughout the body and at every level, there must be demonstrating accountability, listening, performing assigned duty, sacrifice, and unselfish service.  Shunning may appear within congregations as an acknowledgement of apostolic authority and counsel recorded within the Scriptures.  With that in view, shunning is not to be dismissed as merely arbitrary, hurtful, secular, and social.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  2nd Timothy 3:  1-5, King James Version (KJV):  1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,  3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;  5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:  from such turn away.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 5:  1-13, KJV:  1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.  2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.  3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,  4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,  5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.  6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?  7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:  8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.  9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:  10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.  11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

(3.)  Matthew 18:  15-20, KJV:  15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone:  if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.  16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.  17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church:  but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.  18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:  and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.  19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.  20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Revelation 22:  10-17, KJV:  10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:  for the time is at hand.  11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still:  and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still:  and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still:  and he that is holy, let him be holy still.  12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.  13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.  14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.  15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.  16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.  17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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The Sermon of the Beatitudes (La sermon des béatitudes) 1886-1896 by James Tissot depicts Jesus teaching the multitude

Today, reply is on comparing sacred and secular knowledge, and the life tools of intellect and logic against spirit content imparted from the makeup of GOD.  Where a reader claiming to know science can not understand and process what I am presenting in this blog, I would not raise a question about their intelligence, however, I might well ask them to consider whether they have received the fresh endowment of divine spirit available from GOD through Jesus Christ.  Correctly understood, dialogue on Christian substance and belief is never one on self-promotion through “me, myself, and I” in place of focus upon GOD, whose character, nature and substance is exalted, immense, and sovereign.  Just as comparing and contrasting Jesus Christ with the other persons comprising divine fullness (i.e., the GODhead; the Father and the Holy Spirit) is foolish and unproductive, seeking to judge, impose hierarchy, and rank the Son of the Highest against other men because they have shared mortality with him is as useless as attempting to compare the greatness of two athletes in the same sport as different as basketball stars Shaquille O’Neal and Stephen Curry.  Their accomplishments, physical endowments, skills, strategies, and opportunities within a game always will be very different.  A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum using the ID “STEVAN” (Level 1 with 59 points, a member since August 10, 2017) posted the following:

Was Jesus as intelligent as Stephen Hawking?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;  He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,  Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness:  from such withdraw thyself.  But godliness with contentment is great gain.  For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.  (1st Timothy 6:  3-7, King James Version, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  His Suffering At Gethsemane (03/12/2018); The Coming(s) of Christ (03/11/2018); The Option of Atheism (02/11/2018); We Begin Within GOD (02/06/2018); Standards For Godly Behavior (02/01/2018); Sin No “One-time” Event (01/03/2018); Idolatry — Exalting Human Devices? (09/21/2017)

STEVAN”, although Christ and Hawking both have displayed authentic humanity recognizable by their endurance and overcoming of suffering (not by their imperfection); and both have served as teachers sharing views of the origins of mankind, the spheres of life, and the process of the universe, many Christian believers will argue that it is inappropriate to compare sacred knowledge against secular knowledge, the operations for achieving temporal goals against those for accomplishing eternal purposes, and the using of finite tools from mathematics, philosophy and science (e.g., analysis, contrast, logic, measurement, synthesis, discursive thought) against the sacred operations and divine substance required to endow mankind with eternal life (e.g.,  faith, holiness, longsuffering, resurrection from the dead, revelation, and sanctification.)

Practicing the circumspection and restraint that appear as godly wisdom among Christians, mature believers would shrink from the task of comparing (judging?) Hawking against Sir Isaac Newton, who has been lauded as “the most original and influential theorist in the history of science.”  (An entire branch within the field of Physics has been named for Sir Isaac.)  Even so, it is more correct to acknowledge the complementary of their distinct contributions, rather than introduce a vain condition (one that lacks spirit matter from the makeup of divinity) insisting on competition and rivalry.  Within the church of Jesus Christ, developing believers often have erred seeking to compare ministries of the Apostles, particularly, Paul and Peter.  Such focus is a distraction grounded in carnal, material and social earthiness.  It is more correct to acknowledge and affirm the appearance of the Holy Spirit within all the apostles, and their works.  Included should be genuine fellowship, love, and oneness without sameness.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Acts 4:  10-14, King James Version (KJV):  10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.  11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.  12 Neither is there salvation in any other:  for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.  13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.  14 And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it.

(2.)  Ephesians 4:  4-8, KJV:  4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;  5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,  6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.  7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.  8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

(3.)  1st Corinthians 12:  17-27, KJV:  17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?  18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.  19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?  20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.  21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee:  nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.  22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:  23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.  24 For our comely parts have no need:  but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.  25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.  26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.  27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.) 1st Corinthians 3:  2-9, KJV:  2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat:  for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.  3 For ye are yet carnal:  for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?  4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?  5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?  6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.  7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.  8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one:  and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God:  ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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