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      Sin as a threat against all existence is topic, today, along with more on divine judgment and justice. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Arabian” (Level 2 with 310 points, a member since December 28, 2012) posted the following:

Christians, what are we being saved from exactly?

THE BATTLE AXE: Put Every Man His Sword By His Side (01/01/2013)—The revelation of GOD to mankind through the holy writings do permit men to accept the necessary harshness of divine law. Severity and swiftness of destruction do not contradict the love, mercy and righteousness of GOD (see Deuteronomy 29: 29, KJV). Wickedness and sin are not features of divine being, and are not to be understood as spirit matter. The need for death as a penalty for sin derives from the truth that human ignorance, persistence, self-will, and various subtle (i.e., barely detectible and hidden) aspects of character, psyche, and spiritual makeup cannot be immediately changed, or altered over time by appeals to emotion, knowledge, logic and reason. Those “dead in spirit” (i.e., lacking divinity; having no endowment of the imparted, indwelling Spirit from the person of GOD) are unreachable and un-teachable as created beings. Death of the flesh that occurs as the completion of mortality is temporary; and despite the death of sinners their wickedness and sin does not terminate, because various consequences, and effects continue to emerge and materialize for an indefinite period. Wickedness and sin cannot be eternally confined, are progressive, replicate, and are self-regenerating (i.e., restarts; rekindles without outside assistance). Through sin, created beings and living creatures gradually lose the divine content that provides their existence as angels or men. Apart from death, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification of the living, there is no divine provision that makes Creation permanent, and that allows eternal life. The absolute and complete removal of what remains from once godly beings can finally be eliminated only after divine judgment, and through purification by immersion in the lake of fire (called the second death).

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. (1st John 5: 20, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Purchased With Blood? (12/29/2012); The Law Not Flawed (12/30/2012); An Attack on Creation? (12/08/2012); The Focus of Judgment (12/09/2012); More Than Salvation (11/27/2012); Does Everyone Go To Heaven? (10/28/2012); The Gospel not Logical? (09/16/2012); Unwelcome Gifts? (09/17/2012)

      Divine operations of redemption and salvation are called forth in connection with Creation, because the objects put forth from divine awareness and mind are limited as to their content of divine substance, and therefore may not endure. This is particularly so for created beings and living creatures such as angels, animals, insects, men, and the sacred beasts of heaven. Extending incorruptibility and immortality to the living, and making their existence eternal, requires many major events involving the substance of GOD, who is spirit. Included are Advent, Incarnation, birth, epiphany, death, rebirth, repentance, passion, judgment, sanctification, and the second death.

      The continuing existence of sacred person and sanctified being are opposed by sin; however, sin has no power to alter, damage or injure divine person. Almighty GOD is not threatened by sin; yet, sin may dominate the self-will of created beings and living creatures. The action of sin diminishes what we would call “will power,” and blocks human awareness of divine law, sacred purpose, and holy presence. Sin is not created by GOD, has no spirit content; and is no carnal, material, or physical thing that can be immediately known, resisted, and eliminated by angels and mankind. Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, the endowment of divine substance that establishes one in the image of GOD, may be increased or restored. Included here are faith, hope, humility, joy, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, ignorance and lack of awareness are like blindness. One may accomplish many great things despite a lack of vision: The blind also may enjoy important professional careers, marry, raise children, and be honored as major celebrities. Yet, look at all they miss. Once separated from sin, and joined to GOD whose will cannot be ruled of sin, the full measure of human potential includes a capacity to know and be known of GOD; to manifest the divine nature; and to accomplish the beauty and power of ones own divine vision.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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      Whether or not GOD seeks mankind, and mankind seeks Satan is considered along with more on the “lake of mercy.” A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “grfisgd” (Level 6 with 16,761 points, a member since August 29, 2007) posted the following:

Christians, do you agree with these points?

Satan seeking man (no need for a person to seek Satan:

(1 Peter 5:8)

“Be alert, be reflective, because your enemy Satan roars like a lion and is walking and seeking whom he may devour.”

Jesus knocking at the door verse:

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

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Just trying to write my own notes through study. And I sorta learned this in my own way of understanding.

1. God, Jesus, asks us (His children) to come to Him. He wants us to believe in Him so we can be saved. So does God seek man or should man seek God?

2. Opposite of that, Satan seeks God’s children instead of people seeking Satan (occults, witchcraft influences, earthly, materialistic things etc.)So its possible regardless of belief Satan will enter someone life without them seeking Satan. Opposite of Jesus knocking at your door. Satan just invites himself in your house.

THE BATTLE AXE: The “Lake of Mercy” (11/03/2012)—With the removal of all believers in Christ who are vessels of his life and spirit, the earth will become dark and joyless. Those that are made slaves to sin eventually have no power to resist, and are deprived of all self-will, and sacred understanding. Altered by sin, angels, men and other beings lose the divine endowment that established ones authority, ones identity as a created being or living creature, and ones power to operate within frameworks of time and space. Those consigned to the lake of destruction are empty and void of divinity; they exist, however, they do not have life (i.e., being, godliness, and person). As corrupt, lifeless objects (we could say “rubbish”) they do not call forth benevolence and kindness. The figure of a lake (a pool and standing body of water, instead of running water like a river or stream), pictures a finite and limited natural resource that is nonetheless abundant, bounteous, and measureless. The fearful torment to those left behind at the Rapture is not that described by physical pain. The spiritual condition of the wicked is to be seen as an unbearable separation from GOD such that their destruction may be regarded as heartfelt compassion and pity. As a mechanism of the law and judgment, mercy emerges by precepts, principles, and truth, and is made visible in accordance with the specifics of each case.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (2nd Corinthians 3: 4-6, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Caesarea Philippi (10/22/2012); Spirit Matter (10/21/2012); The Spirit is Willing (10/20/2012); When Prayer Works (10/11/2012); Sin Unknown? (10/10/2012); Coveting The Throne (03/07/2012); On Going to Heaven (01/13/2012)

      Here are some thoughts from Christ that have been found helpful by many mature believers:

      Human language does not correctly describe the various aspects of divine person, sacred process, and spiritual purpose. We continue to use “buzz words” like “seek”, “find”, “learn” and “discover” speaking of being and existence, the makeup of reality and truth, and the substance of divinity. Our language is imperfect, however, it does allow us to exchange and share many truths that would otherwise have to remain unspoken. For example, Almighty GOD is a spirit person, and is not a carnal, material or social life form; yet, we repeatedly use “he”, “him” and titles of respect to speak of GOD as if the Maker is a human being. The holy angels, as created of GOD, are sprit-beings; however, they are not a fullness of divine spirit as GOD is. The angels are neither mortal (as men are) nor immortal (as GOD is). While the angels represent a unique and finite expression of divine mind, they are not in the oneness of spirit-person as are Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

      Satan exists in the earth as a prince and ruler from among the angels. In their creation, the angels were endowed with the full measure of knowledge and wisdom they would use throughout their service. Angels do not acquire truth as men do through experience over time granted to mankind as growth and learning. The angels were provided with such gifts as ability, authority, and feeling; and they were not given “sin”, a knowledge of sin, or an ability to repent for sin. Sin opposes the existence of divine law, of rule by GOD, and of existence for all things created of GOD. Also, sin generates spiritual confusion, and alters the divine content of created beings and living creatures. When sin (i.e., corruption) was found among the angels, destructive separation from divine person already had begun.

      The techniques for rule among the angels, and within the heaven, are not all appropriate for the earth and mankind. Thus, Satan is incapable of full and open dominion. Through deceit, misdirection and various wiles, he and his followers are able to exercise a limited influence upon mankind. Divine rule of mankind is now contested by sin, human ignorance, self-will, and weakness of the flesh. Acknowledgment of GOD (what we call “worship”) goes forward correctly only through ones inner awareness from the imparted, indwelling spirit supplied from GOD. Through the ministry of Jesus Christ upon the earth, and from the heavens, mankind may receive an additional endowment of sacred substance from the person of Almighty GOD. Included are faith, holiness, humility, longsuffering, wisdom and wrath against sin.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, men do not seek GOD so much as right knowledge of GOD (truth), and right standing with GOD (relationship). Satan does not seek relationship with men as equals or peers; nor does he seek to eat human flesh and blood. His lust is for control, power, and vindication.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.