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noahs-flood

A depiction of the flood and Noah’s ark (image reference below).

 

Today, reply is on the Creation not displaying divine failure, the operations of sin, and the grace of GOD revealed at the time of Noah. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shared) posted the following:

 

Why did God flood the earth? Were people acting differently than he thought they would when he made them? His creations were a failure?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. (2nd Peter 3: 5-14, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: From Spirit Not Mud (02/26/2019); Satisfying Creation and Law (01/22/2019); The Elimination of Sin (11/25/2018); How Did Noah Know? (10/14/2018); Adam’s Imperfection and Sin? (08/10/2017); Did GOD Lose Control? (03/23/2017); Lessons From The Flood (01/21/2016); The Covenant of Noah? (12/16/2014); Atone, Judge and Replenish (12/17/2014); Animals Do Not Sin? (09/29/2013); GOD is Acknowledging (09/30/2013)

 

Anonymous”, the great flood to destroy the world was a divine response to defilement of mankind and the earth through sin. Many developing Christian believers make the error of thinking that the great flood to destroy the earth means the Creation of GOD was a failure. As mature Christians they will realize that the operations of sin are an enigma: Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Lawgiver, and the universe that requires divine order; sin has not been created by divinity; the makeup of sin has no material or spirit substance; sin may dominate awareness and self-will (i.e., willpower) within created beings and living creatures; and sin promotes a return to the conditions of chaos, confusion, and lack of eternal purpose that was in place before the founding of heaven and earth.

Sin continues on the earth, and has not been eliminated by the death of sinners, divine forgiveness, or the sacred promises of GOD. Even so, in the same way the great flood permitted a re-populating of the earth, the appearance of divinity in flesh as Jesus Christ has permitted mankind to receive a fresh endowment of life essence from the makeup of GOD, and men willingly may exist as a new creation. Divinity established an everlasting covenant with Noah and the living creatures that survived the flood ensuring there never would be another global flood. Other means would be used to deliver mankind, preserve the earth, and provide salvation.

The creation of existence, the earth, and all life was by divinity; the creation of the world as a man-made system for communication, exchange and survival was by mankind. Through the appearance of divinity in flesh as Jesus Christ (we say, the Incarnation), mankind becomes an ark (storage chest), and a vessel containing divine substance. The living become the offspring of divinity, children of GOD, and joint heirs with Jesus. Their divine content includes inseparable aspects of divine fullness: faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Engaging their own content of sacred substance, believers now are more completely and correctly able to discern, recognize, reject, and resist the operations of sin. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Genesis 1: 31, King James Version (KJV): 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

2. Genesis 6: 11-19, KJV: 11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. 16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it. 17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. 18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee. 19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

3. Ezekiel 18: 20-23, KJV: 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

4. Genesis 9: 8-16, KJV: 8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 5. Isaiah 55: 7-13, KJV: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Lord Of The Animals Noah And The Ark With Animals (The Lord Fulfilleth All His Words)

 

Today, reply is on human knowledge, the flood, and the operations of GOD to preserve Creation from the devastating spread of sin. The ability, knowledge, and grasp upon sacred law that was granted to Adam in the beginning was so great that mankind was fully equipped to have dominion and rule over the entire earth, and every living creature. The knowledge gained through the transgression of the pair only fitted them for struggle and survival. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality public forum using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

How did Noah know of the species from the new world seeing the new world hadn’t been discovered yet?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him. And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. (Genesis 7: 1-7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Firstborn Of Every Creature (05/09/2018); “New Creation” and Life (01/01/2018); Jesus Demonstrated Perfected Humanity (10/29/2017); Lower Than The Angels? (09/12/2017); Multiply, Replenish and Rule (08/27/2017); The Covenant of Noah? (12/16/2014); Atone, Judge and Replenish (12/17/2014)

 

Anonymous”, in agreement with the Scriptures, here are some of the points regarding Adam, Jesus, Noah and the flood that Christian believers continue to receive as part of the full revelation of GOD to mankind:

(1.) Neither angels nor mankind were created as “all-knowing”, as “knowing the future,” and as having fore-knowledge. The angels (who are neither immortal nor mortal, and whose duration is according to divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and sovereign will) do not acquire knowledge by discovery, gradual growth, and learning as do men; and the angels were endowed at their creation with the full measure of the knowledge they would use throughout their service to GOD.

(2.) Adam was created to exist as a companion to immortal, incorruptible divinity, and lived for nearly a full millennium (1,000 years) on the earth that did not have the present day problems of automobile gridlock, air and water pollution, disease, or sanitation and waste removal for plastic straws. The capacity of mind provided for the first male, Adam, was on a scale such that the man could name, recall, and recognize every animal presented to him by the Creator.

(3.) As a patriarch himself and the heir to the priesthood of Adam, Noah lived for hundreds of years, and proclaimed prophecy from GOD through the operations of the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter; the Holy Ghost; the Spirit of Prophecy; the Spirit of Truth). Aspects of Noah’s knowledge had been handed down as inheritance and instruction through oral traditions; other elements, like the animals being drawn to the ark, were provided by the same Spirit that worked during Creation.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) The figure or type represented by Noah in the holy writings is that of “the second Adam,” one we also see applied to Jesus Christ. Adam and Noah both were commanded to be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. Jesus, however, established new life, rebirth, resurrection, and a new creation.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Noahs Ark

Noah’s Ark, a symbol of salvation and the church of Jesus Christ

 

Today, reply is on salvation and divine grace; acknowledging baptism in the unchanging process of GOD; and water baptism as an outward and visible display for unseen, sacred operations. Sin and wickedness are re-appearances of the confusion and disorder in place during preexistence that were removed by the divine acts of Creation. Necessarily, the works to convey deliverance and salvation display much of the same process and spirit that appeared in the beginning. The fighter in the Religion and Spirituality forum at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “GRANNY NORINE” (Level 1 with 46 points, a member since May 16, 2014) posted the following:

 

“God doesn’t change” (Mal 3:6). Why was His first baptism (I Cor 10:1-2) one in which the children of Israel didn’t get wet (Exd 13:16;22)?

Update: WHY ARE WE “GETTING WET” YET “OUR EXAMPLES” (I CORINTHIANS 10:11) DIDN’T? THE (((PRINCIPLE OF GOD))) FOR BAPTISM IS FOUND IN EXODUS AND (((NO ONE GOT WET)))! WHAT ARE WE DOING?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. (Genesis 6: 5-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Why Jonah Willfully Disobeyed (06/10/2018); Firstborn Of Every Creature (05/09/2018); Lessons From The Flood (01/21/2016); Ark of the Covenant? (03/17/2015); Animals Do Not Sin? (09/29/2013); GOD is Acknowledging (09/30/2013); Destroyed in Noah’s Flood? (04/28/2013); Both Born Holy? (04/29/2013)

 

GRANNY NORINE”, the themes of rebirth, resurrection and salvation that appear in water baptism (i.e., the death and burial of ones inborn spirit with birth of a new spirit from divine seed) should be understood as the same as those we see in the account of divine judgment appearing as Noah’s flood. Part of the full revelation we are being given by GOD so that we might exist in a continuing relationship with divinity includes the demonstration and reminders that mankind has been set apart by GOD to exist separated from chaos, confusion, instability, and lawlessness. Here are some further thoughts on the elements within the plan of GOD:

The operations of divine fullness (we say, the GODhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) that reveal the character, nature, and substance of GOD are inseparable, joined, sequenced and simultaneous events that establish and maintain divine order throughout the universe. Included are Creation, decree (the proclamation of sacred law), judgment (i.e., applying sacred law to resolve conflicts; lawful settlement of disputes), and sovereign rule.

The operations of sin promote death, separation from GOD, nonexistence, and the return to conditions that were in place before the founding of heaven and earth. The divine will must be imposed upon chaos, disorder, and flux (the multiple streams of undefined, unnamed and unfocused matter). This also has been described and portrayed for mankind as the world of Noah’s day; Noah’s ark as a type representing the church of Jesus Christ; the deliverance of Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah; the deliverance of Israel from Egypt; and Israel walking on dry land through the waters encouraged by Moses and Joshua.

Sin has not been created by GOD or mankind, and may not be eliminated by a simple reversal of a known process. Sin has no spirit substance or power, yet, has direction, effect, and “presence”; and sin may dominate consciousness and self-will in created beings and living creatures. Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Lawgiver, and all the aspects of Creation that rely on lawful order.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, the immutable, unchanging, eternal purposes of GOD that are revealed through the holy writings include the creation of mankind to exist on the earth as a companion to divinity. Divinity has used multiple sacred tools that are not material or physical to accomplish the divine ends. Included are atonement, sacred blood, forgiveness, prophecy, sacrifice, suffering, unselfish service, and the holy writings.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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GOD created the army of Israel led by Joshua having more than 1/2 million men.

 

 

Today, reply addresses the revelation of GOD through continued ongoing judgment.   One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile data appears) posted the following:

 

Why did the God of the Bible wage war against the Canaanites?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And Joshua said unto the children of Israel, Come hither, and hear the words of the LORD your God.  And Joshua said, Hereby ye shall know that the living God is among you, and that he will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Hivites, and the Perizzites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites.  Behold, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth passeth over before you into Jordan.  (Joshua 3:  9-11, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The First “Chosen” Chosen People (05/03/2018); Being A Holy Nation (02/20/2018); On Recognizing Divine Judgment (01/24/2018); Of War and Judgment (10/08/2013); Heart, Brain or Spirit? (10/09/2013); Moses Killed? (09/23/2013); Salted with Fire? (09/24/2013); What is Worship? (10/18/2010)

 

“Anonymous”, here are some points that many mature Christian believers are careful to consider:
(1.)  The Creator who uses divine law and judgment to establish mankind and the earth also has used condemnation and widespread destruction to express wrath against sin (e.g., Sodom and the cities of the plains).   Along with displays of awesome authority and power against defiance and rebellion, through such men as Noah, GOD has revealed divinity is forbearing, forgiving, longsuffering, patient, and willing to bestow divine grace.
(2.)  GOD first revealed himself to Moses in a way that indicated his dominion over the natural earth, and used the form of a burning bush whose flaming branches gave off no smoke and left no trace of ashes.  Moses was instructed to acknowledge that he was on ground made holy by the divine presence.  When Moses later asked to physically see the true image of divine fullness (we say, the GODhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit), GOD passed before Moses once the prophet was placed within a cleft of the rock.  Displaying his deeds and the train that followed himself, GOD proclaimed that he is to be known, spoken of, and understood as a GOD of covenant, law, and judgment, who will punish the guilty, yet, will display mercy.
(3.)  The ten plagues brought against Egypt were not mere demonstrations to intimidate the Egyptians, the surrounding nations, or the 12 tribes of Jacob.  While the plagues were unleashed as an aspect of the deliverance of the twelve tribes, they were sacred events performed as judgments against Pharaoh, the Egyptian people, and the gods of Egypt.
(4.) The invasion by Jacob and plagues that accompanied them were fulfilling GOD’s word of promise and prophecy to Abram, that he would judge against the seven tribes of Canaan who were in covenant with GOD, yet, continued to practice idolatry and sin.  GOD would use his son (the tribes of Jacob) and the mixed multitude that left Egypt to remove the seven covenant-breaking tribes.
There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Deuteronomy 7:  1-8, King James Version (KJV):  1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;  2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:  3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.  4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods:  so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.  5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.  6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God:  the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.  7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:  8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply speaks to the account of Jonah and the great fish where multiple streams of sacred truth come together.  For there to be accord and agreement between the Creator and the created, the living must be joined to the oneness without sameness that exists within the GODhead.  To many, the primary focus of the account of Jonah is repentance by the city/kingdom of Nineveh, and by a servant of GOD.  (Jonah is a figure of all those who refused to heed the preaching of Noah, and is a figure of the High Priest of the tabernacle and the temple who must make atonement for the sins of the people, and for his own sins.)  To others, the major themes are resurrection and salvation.  Even so, it is written:  Hosea 6:  5-6, King James Version (KJV):  5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth:  and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.  6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.  One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shown) posted the following:

 

Why did Jonah willfully disobey God?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly,  And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.  For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about:  all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.  Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.  The waters compassed me about, even to the soul:  the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.  I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever:  yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.  When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD:  and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.  They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.  But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.  And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.  (Jonah 2:  1-11, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  When Prophecy Opposes Desire (05/31/2018); Divine Law Is Demanding (04/10/2018); Why Does GOD “Repent”? (04/06/2018); “I Am The Resurrection”  (03/25/2018); Mercy to the Merciless? (07/30/2017); Accepting the Divine Will? (12/06/2016); Justice Comes by Love (10/01/2012); A Daily Revelation? (10/02/2012)

 

“Anonymous”, a man may be dead to the world, yet, alive within the heart and mind of GOD.  Conversely, he may be alive to the world, yet, dead in spirit, defiant, and in rebellion to GOD.  Christian believers are cautioned to understand that, where they do not receive fresh endowments of spirit substance from the makeup of divinity, the operations of sin may dominate awareness and self-will within created beings and living creatures.  The separation that permit’s the living to exist having integrity and soundness of their own personhood must be reinforced by deposits of sacred life essence (we say, breath; spirit; word) from the makeup of the Creator.  Inseparable aspects of GOD are imparted to indwell those on the earth including faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The human condition displayed by Jonah included ethnic arrogance (Jonah, a Jew was sent to preach to the very Gentiles (the Assyrians) who would later carry the Northern Kingdom (Israel; Somalia) into exile); exaggerated pride; indignation; and self-righteousness (a holier-than-thou attitude).  The belly of a great fish was prepared to serve as a burial site and grave for Jonah.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Proverbs 16:  25, King James Version (KJV):  16 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

(2.)  Romans 10:  2-4, KJV:  2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.  3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

(3.)  Romans 6:  2-7, KJV:  2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?  3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?  4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:  that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.  7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Galatians 5:  16-25, KJV:  16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.  17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh:  and these are contrary the one to the other:  so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.  18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.  19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,  20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,  21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,  23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.  24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.  25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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babel

 

Today, reply is on the operations of sin, mankind populating the whole earth, and Christ as High Priest in heaven.  Noah and his family were blessed and supplied to cleanse the “sanctuary” of the earth that had been ravaged by the waters of the flood, and covered with debris from the judgment event that included cadavers, mud, slime, and uprooted trees.  Even so, they were commanded to replenish the earth not to construct a pathway to heaven.  Access to heaven and eternal life would become possible later through Jesus Christ as “the way, the truth, and the life.”  A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “NONAME” (Level 3 with 1,718 points, a member since July 07, 2017) posted the following:

Why did God punish Man for building a Stairway to Heaven…people just wanted to go to Heaven?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.  (Genesis 9:  1, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Lawless, Violent GOD? (11/16/2017); Adam, Family and Law (07/05/2017); Kingdom and One-world Empire (09/08/2016); Diversity and Divine Purpose (08/28/2016); Lessons From The Flood (01/21/2016); Finite Will, Self-will and Sin? (06/01/2015); Sin and the Great Flood (11/03/2014); Remembering Lot’s Wife? (11/04/2014); Destroyed in Noah’s Flood? (04/28/2013); Both Born Holy? (04/29/2013)

 

“NONAME”, because we speak and think using the frameworks of time and space, heaven has been promoted as a place physically located above the earth.  It is more correct, however, for our focus to be on the inseparable aspects of spirit content from the makeup of GOD that now may exist  within mankind through the ministry of Jesus Christ.  Included are faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Christian believers are required to understand that the issues and problems of sin are profound, for the operations of sin go far beyond the bad attitudes and behaviors forbidden in the Ten Commandments.  Much of the wickedness we see on the earth results from operations of the flesh such as appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, craving sex), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), and emotion/mind (e.g., anger, imagination, recall, sorrow), rather than operations from mankind’s divine aspect imparted from GOD (we also say, breath, life essence, spirit, Word).

All appearances and forms of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the full Creation.  Sin promotes non-existence; the elimination of authority, meaning, quality and value from GOD; and the return to conditions of chaos and flux that existed before the founding of heaven and earth.  While sin is no material object one may see with their eyes, hold in their hand, or put in their pocket, sin has direction, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will within created beings and living creatures.  Consciousness and knowledge of sin have been  established through divine law, because to the living, sin does not appear as contrary to ones own character and makeup.  Sin seems natural, normal, and even, part of oneself that should be acknowledged, accepted and approved.  Cherished and hidden sin must be exposed by sacred law, yet, the results from sin plainly can be seen in adultery, cruelty, deceit, lack of godliness, murder, foul speech, selfishness, and violence.

For sinners taking their first steps to full sacred knowledge the accounts recorded in the Bible are important for gaining a “divine point of view” and understanding.  The holy writings reveal the active presence who is GOD appearing through thousands of events within thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  Developing believers are shown that Noah’s flood to destroy all living would only have eliminated sin on the earth.  Sin among the angels, and the stain of sin within the Temple of heaven must be addressed by the divine High Priest, Jesus Christ, who makes atonement and cleanses the Sanctuary in heaven by using his own blood.  Building the tower of Babel was a positive display of human cooperation and peace.  Yet, it was a rebellion thought necessary to ensure the survival of mankind in case of a second flood.  GOD said there would be no second flood; and mankind was to overspread the earth, rather than remain together in a single area.  Babel did not express desire to be “nearer to GOD;” Babel depicts disbelief, disobedience, lack of faith, and mankind having lost the “image of GOD.”

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and made a part of our own developing belief.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on incest and the divine process for populating the earth.  While mankind and other living creatures are evaluated using immutable patterns and regularities we may call divine order, natural law, and sacred law, existence for the three persons of divine fullness does not require measurement against fixed standards.  Where the focus for communication, exchange and interaction (we say, relationship) is to be in continual contact as companions to immortal, incorruptible divinity, reproduction may be understood as a mechanical process, rather than one of commitment, exclusive devotion, and obedience to the sovereign will of a Creator.  Adam (the first pair), and their offspring that included Noah and those from the ark, did not come under divine condemnation for having to use sexual reproduction among themselves to populate the earth.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

How do Bible “literal-ist’s” (creationists) reconcile with the rampant incest required between Adam, Eve, and their children?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:  and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.  (Genesis 1:  27-28, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divine Inheritance and Resurrection? (07/06/2016); Incest? (10/29/2015); Asked To Teach On Adam? (10/30/2015); Scandal and Sin Among Believers? (06/05/2015); A Second Adam? (03/25/2013); GOD Hiding in Plain Sight (03/26/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, I can’t speak for what you call “Bible literal-ists”, however, as a mature Christian believer I can share some points that do not always come into view among atheists, disbelievers, scoffers, and those wanting to be called “scientists”.  In order to correctly examine and benefit from the things that describe divinity, a person should employ a system of connected attitudes, beliefs, focus, sacred knowledge and divine spirit content such as Christianity.  In the same way, the operations of GOD to establish heaven and earth were not carried out on the basis of existing natural laws, in the Creation divinity did not respond to the episodic and temporal emotions, feelings and thoughts of finite beings, or to what might result as their social conventions, customs, and traditions.  Mankind was conceived and emanated as a living creature who would continue in the image and process of GOD.  Law was organic, and existed within consciousness and self-will as aspects of the makeup of living creatures, and was not provided as a mechanism to restore lost spirit substance or replace the active presence of Deity.  Going further, the demands for divine judgment centered in determining duration, meaning, quality and value.  There was no need to resolve conflicts and settle disputes among the living by applying sanctions and standards from a comprehensive legal structure for law.

The definitions, quality of life, and values among mankind that have developed within the frameworks of time, space, and material existence have appeared on the basis of finite secular knowledge and human data management.  By contrast, the Bible documents and records commandments, covenants, and instruction from GOD for maintaining priesthood, sacred practices (we say, sacraments), divine promises, and prophecy.  Such features as childrearing, family, lifestyles, and marriage come into view as instruments and tools for revelation.  Few people would argue that Adam and Eve were poor parents because they did not send their children to good public and parochial schools, and did not save and properly manage the money in their children’s’ college fund.  Such elements were nonexistent and irrelevant.   

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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