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A Depiction of the GODhead

 

Today, reply is on using human logic and other intellectual tools to know divinity.  To know divinity is to have consciousness of things eternal, invisible, and possible for Deity, not merely the things that are seen and temporal.  Sacred truth compasses and embraces immaterial substance and features that include eternity, glory, righteousness, and spirit.  Knowing divinity and being in continuous relationship with divine persons require a higher level of emotional, mental, and spiritual operation than that we apply, and use as academic and secular knowledge.  The core and platform for complete, correct recognition and response to the active presence who we speak of as GOD are only established through operations among spirit substances that we give the name of gifts, endowments, eternal life, new creation, perfection, rebirth, redemption, resurrection, and revelation.  By the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) sinners are supplied to develop as Christian believers capable of commitment, discernment, and genuine spiritual growth.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “maulporphy” (Level 5 with 9,109 points, a member since March 24, 2016) posted the following:

 

Say, this god of yours: he’s three, but actually only one? That defies logic. How does that work?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath:  for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:  but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.  Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.  For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool:   but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.  (Isaiah 51:  6-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  All Divinity in ONE? (11/17/2017); A Lawless, Violent GOD? (11/16/2017); Confused By Spiritual Puzzles (11/13/2017); Idolatry — Exalting Human Devices? (09/21/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); Christianity Is Not Mindless (05/02/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016)

 

“maulporphy”, together, the many tools of “mind” relied on by created beings and living creatures are useful for describing and imposing order on carnal, material, secular, and social life experience, yet, are finite, inadequate and profane when applied to the task of knowing the Holy.  Such features as imagination, intellect, carnal reason, critical thinking, the frameworks of time and space have less value where we focus on divine order, the makeup and process of divinity, and continuing in intimate or personal relationship with the Creator who is immortal and incorruptible.

Where “logic” means rules that should be applied to establish meaning, order, quality, and value, Christian believers may speak of “sacred logic,” divine law, and the order that must appear on the basis of GOD existing as the totality of all divine spirit substance (we say, the Godhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit) as well as appearing in human form (the Incarnation; the Son of Man, Jesus Christ).  In accordance with sacred logic, the makeup of divinity includes inseparable aspects such as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, person, presence, sovereign will, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  In measures that are scaled for their form, service, and sphere of life, spirit content from GOD may be conveyed and imparted to the living as life essence (we say, breath, spirit, Word).

Christians rely on things provided by GOD to make divinity knowable, known, accessible and approachable (we say, divine revelation).  For example, the Bible is a collection (library) of separate sacred books documenting the appearance of GOD on the earth and within the heaven using thousands of events in thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  Consider again the following that acknowledges the difficulty of coming into right sacred knowledge and relationship with GOD, and how spirit content must be provided to sinners for them to become believers:

(1.)  Acts 7:  51-60, King James Version (KJV):  51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost:  as your fathers did, so do ye.  52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:  53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.  54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.  55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,  56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.  57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,  58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him:  and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.  59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.  60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

(2.)  Philippians 3:  7-14, KJV:  7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.  8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:  for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,  9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:  10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;  11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.  12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect:  but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.  13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended:  but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,  14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
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Today, an eternal revelation by immutable, unchanging divinity is considered that will present diverse manifestations of divine fullness, rather than display changes within the makeup of GOD.  When Christian believers are asked to share sacred knowledge regarding “the world to come,” their responses must go beyond “spiritual basics” and the Gospel.  Thus, we may provide declarations of faith, prophesy, personal testimonies, or even, reports of visions.  Without there being any changes among or within the persons of GODhead, in the world to come, created beings and living creatures should experience movement and shifts in orientation within their consciousness and sense of grasp as their natural response to many of the things that will be displayed and put forth by divinity (for example, the New Jerusalem descending from heaven, the Tree of Life, and that there no longer will be oceans).  It is written, John 3:  11-13, King James Version (KJV):  11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.  12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?  13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.  With these words from the Lord in view, it is not an error for developing believers to seek sacred knowledge regarding “the world to come.”  Even so, all are cautioned not to indulge conjecture, “vain imaginings” (i.e., fantasy; flights of imagination; make-believe; thoughts lacking spirit content from the makeup of GOD), and speculation.  Saints of the kingdom are to practice discernment and be edified continually through discovery, gradual growth, and apprehension by the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth).  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” who used the ID “Donald” (Level 1 with 73 points, a member since November 03, 2017) posted the following:

 

Is Jesus the same today as He will be tomorrow? why or why not?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:  And before him shall be gathered all nations:  and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:  (Matthew 25:  31-34, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Creator is Different (10/31/2017); GOD Is Imparting Truth (10/30/2017); The Device of Incarnation (10/18/2017); Making Sense of Preexistence? (10/06/2017); Our Glory From GOD (09/24/2017); Eternal Mysteries and Revelation (08/31/2016); Names For Sacred Persons? (08/01/2017); Atonement and The Cross? (02/29/2016); Ark of the Covenant? (03/17/2015); Jesus, King of Earth? (10/07/2012); Parental Duty? (10/08/2012)

 

“Donald”:

(1.)  Hebrews 6:  1-3, King James Version (KJV):  1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  3 And this will we do, if God permit.

In the same way the glory displayed and revealed at his baptism was different from that seen in his transfiguration, when Jesus appears to reap the harvest of the earth (i.e., to remove those “born again” who have “grown up again” and are mature/ripe), he will display the three-fold glory (that of the Father, that of the holy angels, and his own unique glory).  Further, just as his crown(s) and throne(s) are many (e.g., glory, grace, judgment, life, mercy, rest), and there are differences in duties and sovereign authority that do not alter his divinity, covenant relationships, and participation within the GODhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), the joint-heirs with Christ should expect a continuing and eternal revelation of glory marked by diversity, rather than change in “the root” or aspects that are fundamental.

Eternal life will not be stagnant and static, for the watchwords of salvation through Jesus Christ include discovery, faith, gradual growth, “oneness without sameness,” trust and vigilance.  Christian believers may understand that, while Christ ascended before his witnesses displaying flesh and form, he is now making atonement in the heavens as our High Priest within the Sanctuary, the Holiest of Holies, and may manifest using both diffuse spirit as well as human form.  (That material things such as altars, horses, and a city, the New Jerusalem, may appear in heaven is not explained to us.)  Even so, mankind is to exist as a companion to immortal, incorruptible divinity upon the earth, and is now in an ongoing process of transformation that will be completed as the Savior’s believers meet him in the air at his return (we also say, the Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  While few (?)  details regarding our becoming perfected, and the specifics of eternal life are recorded in the holy writings, many patterns and principles appear that permit clear understanding of various possibilities, of the things consistent with our present sacred knowledge, and of “what is likely” given the revealed eternal purposes.

Thus:

(2.)  Hebrews  13:  8, KJV:  8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

(3.)  2nd Corinthians 3:  17-18, KJV:  17 Now the Lord is that Spirit:  and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.  18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

(4.)  Luke 9:  23-26, KJV:  23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.  24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it:  but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.  25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?  26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.

(5.)  2nd Corinthians 4:  3-5, KJV:  3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:  4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.  5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (6.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
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The Son of Man

 

Today, focus is on the demonstration of perfected humanity that was shared by the GODhead using the device of Incarnation.  As the heir to Adam, created from dust and sacred breath, Jesus appeared on the earth as someone inheriting the human condition that includes appetite, sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), mortality, and being limited by emotion (e.g., anger, fear, sorrow) and finite human tools of the mind (e.g., “secular knowledge,” carnal reason, logic, philosophy, science).  Jesus was not born having recall of his exalted station within the GODhead, or full knowledge of the promises to Abraham, the covenants of Moses and David, or the role he was to  ultimately fulfill as Messiah, and the one prophesied to die on the cross.  Jesus also encountered evil, and was tested by the Devil in the wilderness.  The things Jesus spoke and performed had to be expressions of his own conviction, discoveries, and faith.  Correctly understood, then, the holy writings only provide descriptions of Jesus Christ on the earth as another man who, through the active presence who is GOD the Father, also fulfills multiple sacred offices (e.g., exorcist, healer, judge, king, prophet, priest, teacher).  What continues to puzzle many believers is that the Lord’s origin has been by operations of the Holy Spirit that are not aspects of Creation, that have not been detailed and revealed to created beings and living creatures, and that speak to the use of form by spirit without corruption, defilement, or profanity.  More than this, many are overwhelmed by the teaching that Jesus became the embodiment of our sin on the cross, faced sacred judgment, and endured divine wrath.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” with the ID “Corvus Blackthorne” (Level 4 with 4,355 points, a member since August 02, 2017) posted the following:

 

If Jesus was God, why are there multiple instances in which he worships God as a separate entity?

John 17 leaps to mind.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.  (Hebrews 1:  1-4, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  What Would Moses Say? (10/27/2017); The Device of Incarnation (10/18/2017); Making Sense of Preexistence? (10/06/2017); The Word of GOD (09/05/2017); Conforming to Divine Standards (06/18/2017); A Species of Animal? (01/31/2017); Word, Son, and Christ? (08/24/2016)

“Corvus Blackthorne,” looking upon Christ we are to see a man within a process of GOD, not a god in a process of men.  Jesus Christ appeared on the earth to carry out and fulfill, multiple divine, eternal purposes.  In addition to exposing the operations of sin as a personification of sacred law, Christ would embody the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit).  The Word (breath, life essence, spirit, utterance) appearing embodied in flesh and blood as a son of Adam would continue and complete divine revelation of the character, makeup, and substance of divinity using praise, prayer, proclamation, promise, prophecy, and rebirth to establish among mankind the same oneness without sameness that exists within the GODhead.

Even though the witness of Adam and many of the Patriarchs was available on the earth for nearly one thousand years, and the duties of sacred priesthood were being performed for atonement, expiation, and remission of sin, it was still required that Jesus be sent to demonstrate perfected humanity.  While his conception was through the authority and power of GOD, his development, birth, growth to manhood, his entry into ministry, and his dying on the cross all were required to acknowledge and respond to cycles and patterns of natural law, earthly Creation, and human affairs.

Christian believers are cautioned to discern and understand that, where  Jesus appears to have been gifted with special abilities and powers, that has more to do with the operations of imparted Spirit from GOD than his identity in the Heaven as Son of the Highest.  Thus, in the same way we as sinners must undergo permanent change by the Holy Spirit through baptism and receive a fresh endowment of the inseparable aspects of the divine makeup (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, wrath against sin), the Savior also had to age, acquire sacred knowledge (not merely secular knowledge), communicate through prayer, and be both an instrument to bring about, and an anointed/sworn witness to sacred events (we say, miracles).  In the same way the Lord’s body became tired and weary, and he needed separation from the crowds for rest and refreshing, he also needed renewal to continue against the many questions, thrusts, and streams of spiritual confusion.

As the Second Adam, Jesus received a greater endowment of the imparted Spirit.  There are times in the Scriptures we see only his humanity that includes times when we do not have full knowledge, are uncertain, or seek a different path than the one commanded.  Even so, Jesus is father to a new creation, and through the holy writings and his imparted Spirit, the divine offspring are receiving instruction and nourishment to become ripe (mature) for harvest at his appearing (we say, the Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  The ongoing transformation to exist as companions to immortal, incorruptible divinity that was begun following the fall of Adam and Eve will be completed “in the twinkling of an eye;” and the believers will become perfected before their Maker.  Consider again the following from the Bible:

(1.)  John 1:  11-17, King James Version (KJV):  11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:  13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.  15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me:  for he was before me.  16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.  17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

(2.)  Galatians 4:  4-7, KJV:  4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,  5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.  6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.  7  Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

(3.)  John 11:  41-45, KJV:  41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.  42 And I knew that thou hearest me always:  but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.  43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.  44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes:  and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.  45 Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.

(4.)  John 14:  10-11, KJV:  10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:  but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.  11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me:  or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
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Christ Depicted As Reaping the Harvest

 

Today, topics include maturing, spiritual growth, and becoming perfected as followers of Jesus Christ.  Developing Christians all may be called those who have acknowledged an unquenchable need for divine forgiveness, grace, and renewal, and who willingly have volunteered to work for the Lord when recruited from among sinners.  They have not been accepted and approved on the basis of their decency, their innocence, their finite human skills, or their being without sin.  They have been granted place as his “beloved” and his “little ones”—not because they are perfect—because they are willing to be perfected by the Lord.  These are those who need the most, love the most, display contrition, are burdened with a broken heart, who approach the Savior showing humility and meekness (a readiness to learn and grow), and who openly express their willingness to serve unselfishly with boldness and with zeal.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shared) posted the following:

 

Will God change me if I accept him?

I have a lot of worries about my future and I feel like I’m becoming a bad person will God make me into a better person if I accept him?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.  He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;  The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;  The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.  As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.  The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;  And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:  there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.  (Matthew 13:  36-43, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Meekness, Mortality and Salvation? (07/13/2017); Caution! Work In Progress (10/19/2017); Becoming Joined To GOD (10/13/2017); Transformation Not Obedience Alone (07/02/2017); Events During Final Judgment? (11/28/2016); About Judgment By GOD (08/29/2016); Simple and Mature Faith (09/05/2016)

 
“Anonymous”, for Christian believers, accepting Jesus Christ as the Redeemer and Savior provided by GOD means willingly accepting permanent changes in your character, makeup, and divine substance that will result in a having new standards, a new lifestyle, and new relationships.  The ideas and images related to reaping a harvest are used in the holy writings to help the living understand the operations of GOD for the salvation of mankind.  Sinners must become “born again” through water baptism (death and burial of their inborn spirit, resurrection from the dead having divine DNA, so to speak).  By receiving fresh deposits of spirit content imparted from the makeup of our Creator, created beings on the earth become a new creation.  Believers are to live as vessels of divine spirit, the offspring (sons and daughters) of GOD, and joint heirs with Jesus Christ.

Being saved (salvation) is not a “one-time” sacred event (we say, miracle) so much as a new birth wherein those who are “born again” also must “grow up again” and gradually become mature by meeting life challenges on the earth, gaining sacred knowledge along with secular knowledge, overcoming “growing pains,” enduring suffering, and even completing their own mortality (death).

Believers are not granted authority and self-will (we say, willpower) to ignore or interfere with the natural laws governing the earth, deny the frameworks of time and space, or violate the many fixed processes for the earth and human life (e.g., aging, decay, sickness, weather events).  Even so, all are to display inseparable aspects of divinity that include faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Genuine salvation occurs through accepting accountability, commitment, obedience (mature expressions of love), and clear understanding, never through coercion, threats, and violence. 

Because the operations of sin can only be eliminated using divine tools described as “final judgment,” those rejecting Christ do become subject to total destruction.  Freedom from fear results by performing the righteousness required by divine law; by trusting GOD to carry out and fulfill his own recorded proclamations, promises, and prophecies; and by confessing and sharing truth with GOD through prayer.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  John 3:  1-7, King James Version (KJV):  1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:  2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God:  for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.  3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.  4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?  5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(2.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(3.)  Galatians 6:  7-9, KJV:  7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked:  for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.  9 And let us not be weary in well doing:  for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

(4.)  Luke 9:  56-62, KJV:  56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.  57 And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.  58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.  59 And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.  60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead:  but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.  61 And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house.  62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Revelation 14:  14-16, KJV:  14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.  15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap:  for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.  16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
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Washington, DC

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Today, a reply is shared on making a world so “perfect” that those living in it would never be able to corrupt or defile it.  Through Jesus Christ the elements required for the completeness and integrity of heaven and earth are shown to be more than simply independence, secular knowledge, pleasure, prosperity, and self-will.  An emptiness and void can appear that are best filled using challenge, duty, hardship, trial, and suffering.  For Christian believers, the standards that actually generate and ensure the possibilities of perfection are the character, makeup, and personness of GOD.  Thus, among followers of Jesus Christ every act of fruitful creation will continue oneness without sameness, eternal revelation, righteousness, sanctification, sacred substance, and indicators of yet unseen truth.  In sum, yet not in every part, the perfection found throughout such Creation will display the inseparable aspects of the authority, awesomeness, glory, majesty, and sovereign will of GOD.  The writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia) using the ID “Master Debater” (Level 3 with 1,444 points, a member since April 07, 2017) posted the following:

 

Christians, do you have a different definition of a “perfect” world than I do?

If I was making a perfect world, I would make it so my perfect world couldn’t be ruined by its imperfect inhabitants.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Sanctify them through thy truth:  thy word is truth.  As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:  that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:  for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.  O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee:  but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.  And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it:  that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.  (John 17:  17-26, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Multiply, Replenish and Rule (08/27/2017); Adam’s Imperfection and Sin? (08/10/2017); Miracles Are Not Everlasting (07/18/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); Incarnate, GOD May Die (05/11/2017); The World and The Cross? (04/19/2016); Belief In Another World? (02/17/2016)

 

“Master Debater”, you have not told us what you mean by “perfect”, and you suggest by your question that divinity has failed to create a “perfect” world.  Even so, here are some points that are helpful to consider on your topic:

(a.)  What it takes to create a “perfect world” are the authority, jealousy, love, power, wisdom, and wrath against sin only found within the GODhead.  GOD has put forth everything that exists and has life.  This includes the created beings and living creatures as well as their spheres of life (i.e., the environments and settings that nourish and support their activity, development, growth and learning as well as their death, or conclusion as life forms).

(b.)  The heaven and earth are both spheres of life (like the land, the sea, and the full universe) that include family, language, marriage, and religious observances as institutions that had their origin because of GOD.  We also speak of the place of the dead (the grave), however it is not a place where the living abide and routinely make their homes.

(c.)  The world is a system of related exchanges, interactions, meanings, practices, standards, and values used by the living to maintain communication, cooperation, safety, and survival.  Where the earth is the creation of GOD, the world is the creation of men.  Thus, the world includes such finite devices and tools as government, history, language, money, politics, science, and technology.

(d.)  Christian believers regard life as having multiple possibilities for permanent change that are generated by the “active presence” who is the Creator, and is an immortal, incorruptible, invisible spirit.  Elements important for survival in the world are accounted as having less substance and usefulness (for example, the frameworks of time and space), and even death and sin are seen as reversible.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (e.)  Continuing life and existing on the earth for mankind may be totally changed through baptism (i.e., death and burial of ones inborn spirit, becoming born-again through divine DNA, so to speak).  Baptism may be thought of as a “first step” in a full series of divine actions that result in mankind’s perfection.  Where a sinner is granted rebirth, they become a “child of GOD” containing spirit content from the makeup of divinity.  They then can display inseparable aspects of GOD as faith, holiness, hope, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Once born again, every believer must “grow up again” by meeting life challenges and “growing pains” upon the earth.  At the coming of Jesus (we also say, at his appearing, the Advent, the harvest, the Rapture, the Second Coming) those who are “ripe” (mature) will be taken up to meet the Lord in the air.  Their perfection to exist as companions of divinity will be completed in an instant; and they will go to be with him throughout eternity upon the earth made new.)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is to the suggestion that Adam was imperfect long before their Fall by eating the forbidden fruit.  Mankind and sacred law have crystallized a divine concern and focus on sin.  However, in agreement with divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and sovereign will, possibilities for contradicting, contrary, negative and opposite states should never appear as natural and normal aspects of existence.  Through the law, the living are provided with admonitions, sanctions, and information about the benefits from obeying and penalties from disobeying the divine will.  Thus, before any act of disobedience was committed, the pair had been told that death would follow.  Error and possibilities for wrongdoing existed before divine law and complete sacred knowledge regarding sin began to be transmitted to mankind; and, initially, there was no eternal purpose that created beings and living creatures resist sin, or that divinity eliminate sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “NB” (Level 4 with 3,755 points, a member since December 15, 2012) posted the following:

 

Had Adam and Eve already been imperfect before they ate the forbidden fruit?

Somehow, a corrupt being entered the sacred garden of Eden, and he succeeded in persuading the first woman, Eve, that the fruit would bring her benefits. We have, then, that the mortal being (human) was created in the image and likeness of God, so it’s thought that as such Eve would not be deceived, nor would Adam believe what Eve said, for both would have the wisdom to realize that they were being deceived by the snake (Satan, roughly speaking).

We also have that, if this is true, then the snake was able to deceive the mind of one who was created by a perfect being (God), then his strength would be extraordinarily greater. Besides being able to enter the sacred garden, of course, knowing that God, considered omniscient, could see him there and have him expelled.

Was it all deliberate, then? Did God indirectly wanted Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit? There’s no reason in a place like the Paradise to have a tree that could not even be touched, with fruits that could not be eaten.

PS: english is not my mother language, sorry

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.  But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.  What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.  But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.  For I was alive without the law once:  but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.  And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.  For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.  Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.  Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.  (Romans 7:  5-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Operations of Sin (07/25/2017); Christian Beliefs About Sin (07/20/2017); On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); Did GOD Lose Control? (03/23/2017); Our Beginnings Were Perfect? (12/14/2015); The Origin of Sin? (07/31/2015); All Have Sinned? (07/29/2015)

 

“NB”, here are some points many mature Christian believers have considered:

Given that “perfection” pertains to the fullness of divinity who is the source of all that exists, perfection must be known through revelation.  Sin should not be understood as an outcome, or result of divine errors and lapses during the sacred operations of Creation.  Sin is an enigma to the living, for sin is no material or spirit thing created by GOD, yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of all divine law, promote non-existence, and restore the conditions of chaos and flux that were in place before the foundation of heaven and earth.  The corruption that results from sin first appeared among the holy angels (who are neither mortal nor immortal), and was introduced among mankind by one of the angels who, himself under an influence that is not divine, used deceit and guile.

Adam (the first pair) were finite, created beings who were to function and operate in agreement with multiple fixed conditions and limitations generated by the character, makeup, and substance of GOD.  The two lacked and were not given many things that would be supplied by their continuing as companions of divinity.  They were to endure and survive on the basis of love, respect and trust, more than a formal code of law; and this did not make them imperfect.  At their own creation, the angels received the full deposits of knowledge, understanding, and wisdom they would display throughout their existence as servants of divinity.  Mankind must acquire discernment, sacred knowledge, and wisdom gradually through discovery, growth and learning.  Mankind has been endowed with his own consciousness and self-will that permits independence, integrity, and levels of separation from divinity, yet, that also allow for continuous communication, exchange and interaction (we say, relationship).

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, at one place in the Bible, GOD says, I create “evil”.  The Creator is not speaking of sin.  Many are confused because they repeatedly seek to use secular language to consider divine processes and sacred themes.  They rely on carnal, material and social definitions for sin such as corruption (i.e., decay, disintegration, rot), defiance, disobedience, rebellion, unrighteousness, and wickedness.  Evil is the introduction of widespread, arbitrary, disruptive, unneeded and unwanted change; thus, evil is calamity, catastrophe, disaster, personal tragedy, and upheaval.  Among those inclined to error the more necessary understanding will be missed:  evil is the malicious denial of the immutable, unchanging sovereign will of GOD.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is made on the duration and lasting effects of sacred events (miracles).  By the operations of GOD, one-time events that are completely broken off and ended within their physical settings and temporal intervals may endure and exist as continuous, ongoing, and unfinished within consciousness as well as within spirit.  Also, while faith may produce miracles, miracles do not always produce faith.  Miracles often appear as marvels, or wonders that result from the interruption and suspension of the regularities acknowledged as “natural law” among such academic disciplines as Astronomy, Biochemistry, Genetics, and Physics.  However, correctly understood, miracles rarely occur as disturbances or disruptions of divine order.  Miracles expressing the authority and sovereign will of GOD are temporal events directed to carnal, material, and social conditions, and always appear in accordance with divine law, eternal purpose, and sacred process.  Without the preparation that comes through faith, sacred knowledge, and regular practice of divine sacraments, the sudden, unexpected appearance of miracles results in sinners having increased disbelief, fear, skepticism, and spiritual confusion.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “maulporphy” (Level 5 with 8,905 points, a member since March 24, 2016) posted the following:

 

If Jesus cured the sick and raised the dead, how come they’re not still alive?

Seems like a perfect man would perform perfect miracles

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed:  and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.  And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.  And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?  For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.  And he arose, and departed to his house.  But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.  (Matthew 9:  2-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Fed From The Altar? (06/19/2017); Benefits of His Kingdom? (04/11/2017); A Ministry to Cripples? (03/14/2017); Diversity and Prophetic Gifts (11/22/2016); On Really Seeing Angels (10/09/2016); Sight to the Blind? (07/30/2015); Power Against Sin? (04/12/2015); Why Did Jesus Heal? (02/03/2015); Help Thou Mine Unbelief (12/31/2014)

 

“maulporphy”, for Christian believers, the presence of unseen things are being established on the basis of faith, not on the basis of what is seen.  On the one hand, the revelation of divinity to created beings and living creatures addresses multiple aspects of their consciousness (e.g., intellect, logic, imagination, recall), and must use finite devices, events, and tools to make immortal, invisible GOD, who is active presence and spirit, knowable, known, and accessible through regular contact, exchanges and interactions (we say, ongoing relationships).  On the other hand, to apprehend divine fullness (we say, the GODhead; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) one must contain and rely upon their own endowment of spirit substance imparted from the makeup of GOD.  Included are inseparable aspects of Deity such as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

The perfection of Jesus Christ (the Father, or the Holy Spirit) must be known using discernment and sacred (not secular) knowledge.  The manifesting of GOD in the Son is more than a matter of the Savior’s deeds and works to benefit mankind; for the divine operations of Creation, judgment, salvation, and eternal life are grounded in proclamation, promise, prophecy, and actualizing utterance (word).  Both the ministry of Jesus on the earth, and the spiritual gifts that have been received by his followers are in the nature of a partial payment, or “good faith” deposit.  In addition to acts of faith and prophetic demonstrations, the revelation of GOD through Jesus Christ has shared admonition, exorcism (casting out unclean spirits), commanded expectations (we say, hope), healing, judgment, preaching, sacred events (we say, miracles) as well as raising the dead.  Yet to be seen are the conclusion of final judgment, the second death, and the distribution of rewards to those who have worked for Christ.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  2nd Corinthians 1:  21-22, King James Version (KJV):  21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;  22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

(2.)  Romans 1:  18-21, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

(3.)  Ephesians 1:  9-14, KJV:  9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:  10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:  11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:  12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.  13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation:  in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,  14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

There is much more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  1st Corinthians 2:  7-14, KJV:  7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:  8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:  for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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