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A response is shared to a writer’s curiosity about the negative/positive character of Bible sayings.  Also, there is more on damnation, and if one is sent to hell.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Ben” (Level 1 with 10 points, a member since April 25, 2013) posted the following:

Is all scriptures and sayings in the bible all positives?

I am not doubting or anything. I am just curious.

THE BATTLE AXE:  If You Are Sent…? (06/08/2013)—  (5)  The separation of life from flesh is called “death” and the completion of mortality.  However, existence is not finished for those who die; and in the divine operations of first and second resurrection, the spirit of life is returned to the body it was taken from along with the aspects of consciousness, identity and person that had been removed.  The imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD that establishes adoption, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification while one is upon the earth returns to GOD at their death.  These are not returned to those who are resurrected, for higher levels of Spirit truth and perfection are bestowed upon believers as they are lifted up to be with Christ.  Angels do not die, and are neither immortal nor mortal.  The awareness, person and substance of angels endure as coherent being only through divine discretion, and by the will of GOD.  The lake of fire (also called, hell, perdition, the place of burning, and the place of torment) has been fashioned as a divine tool to remove the residue from operations of spirit, and all spirit content that no longer responds to the sovereign will of GOD.  The material that is sent to the lake of fire does not include any content from divine person, or aspect of divinity.  All features recognized as authority, awareness, character, dutifulness, expectation, feelings, integrity, personality, truth, and vision will no longer appear.  Those sent to hell can no longer exist as vessels for the peculiar endowments from GOD that establish angelic or human being.  Thus, the holy fire only destroys lifeless, mindless rubbish.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:  because many false prophets are gone out into the world.  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:  because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.  They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.  Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.  Beloved, let us love one another:  for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.  (1st John 4:  1-10, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Words Spoken By GOD? (06/05/2013); Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013); How To Accept Bible Truth (04/17/2013); About Preaching the Gospel (04/18/2013); A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); On Producing Atheists (03/16/2013); The Children, not the Dogs (03/17/2013); What to Take Literally (03/11/2013); A GOD of War? (03/12/2013)

Ben, it is good that you are curious; it was curiosity that got Moses to turn aside and view a burning bush, not belief, not faith, not perfect knowledge.  Here are some points based upon the Gospel and other holy writings that most mature Christians would agree are accurate and useful:

(1)  The Bible is a collection of writings that include reports of sacred events used by divinity to shape awareness and knowledge in created beings and living creatures.  Included are covenants, divine law, guidance and principles for interaction as a sanctified people of GOD, and judgments against sin.

(2)  The Bible is a tool used by GOD to reveal divine person (we say, the heart and mind of GOD).   The Bible provides a divine perspective and “God’s-eye” view of reality, showing the operations of GOD through thousands of lives, over thousands of years.

(3)  The Bible is a tool used by GOD to further assist created beings and living creatures in detecting and resisting sin.  Sin is a non-material influence that may dominate self-will in the living.  Sin is not a spirit substance, has not been created by GOD or any created being, and (in this sense) sin is invisible.  Sin was first discerned and recognized through actions and attitudes displayed by Lucifer among the holy angels.

(4)  GOD has provided many gifts that enable the angels and mankind to detect and overcome sin.  Included are divine law, anointed judges, examples from lives of committed believers, patriarchs, prophets, divinely appointed rulers, and his own appearance upon the earth Incarnate.  GOD is not subject to sin; and all Creation is being transformed to eliminate sin through the imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD and the ministry of Jesus Christ.

(There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5)  The Bible includes many accounts of human frailty.  The curses that are incurred through defiance, disobedience, and disrespect of GOD are described in detail.  Graphic language is used to clarify the horror and ugliness of betrayal, rebellion, stubbornness, treachery, and weakness.  Yet, the Bible also describes and explains the many divine provisions (we say, blessings) that counter and undo ruin caused through sin.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

      Whether or not GOD seeks mankind, and mankind seeks Satan is considered along with more on the “lake of mercy.” A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “grfisgd” (Level 6 with 16,761 points, a member since August 29, 2007) posted the following:

Christians, do you agree with these points?

Satan seeking man (no need for a person to seek Satan:

(1 Peter 5:8)

“Be alert, be reflective, because your enemy Satan roars like a lion and is walking and seeking whom he may devour.”

Jesus knocking at the door verse:

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

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Just trying to write my own notes through study. And I sorta learned this in my own way of understanding.

1. God, Jesus, asks us (His children) to come to Him. He wants us to believe in Him so we can be saved. So does God seek man or should man seek God?

2. Opposite of that, Satan seeks God’s children instead of people seeking Satan (occults, witchcraft influences, earthly, materialistic things etc.)So its possible regardless of belief Satan will enter someone life without them seeking Satan. Opposite of Jesus knocking at your door. Satan just invites himself in your house.

THE BATTLE AXE: The “Lake of Mercy” (11/03/2012)—With the removal of all believers in Christ who are vessels of his life and spirit, the earth will become dark and joyless. Those that are made slaves to sin eventually have no power to resist, and are deprived of all self-will, and sacred understanding. Altered by sin, angels, men and other beings lose the divine endowment that established ones authority, ones identity as a created being or living creature, and ones power to operate within frameworks of time and space. Those consigned to the lake of destruction are empty and void of divinity; they exist, however, they do not have life (i.e., being, godliness, and person). As corrupt, lifeless objects (we could say “rubbish”) they do not call forth benevolence and kindness. The figure of a lake (a pool and standing body of water, instead of running water like a river or stream), pictures a finite and limited natural resource that is nonetheless abundant, bounteous, and measureless. The fearful torment to those left behind at the Rapture is not that described by physical pain. The spiritual condition of the wicked is to be seen as an unbearable separation from GOD such that their destruction may be regarded as heartfelt compassion and pity. As a mechanism of the law and judgment, mercy emerges by precepts, principles, and truth, and is made visible in accordance with the specifics of each case.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (2nd Corinthians 3: 4-6, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Caesarea Philippi (10/22/2012); Spirit Matter (10/21/2012); The Spirit is Willing (10/20/2012); When Prayer Works (10/11/2012); Sin Unknown? (10/10/2012); Coveting The Throne (03/07/2012); On Going to Heaven (01/13/2012)

      Here are some thoughts from Christ that have been found helpful by many mature believers:

      Human language does not correctly describe the various aspects of divine person, sacred process, and spiritual purpose. We continue to use “buzz words” like “seek”, “find”, “learn” and “discover” speaking of being and existence, the makeup of reality and truth, and the substance of divinity. Our language is imperfect, however, it does allow us to exchange and share many truths that would otherwise have to remain unspoken. For example, Almighty GOD is a spirit person, and is not a carnal, material or social life form; yet, we repeatedly use “he”, “him” and titles of respect to speak of GOD as if the Maker is a human being. The holy angels, as created of GOD, are sprit-beings; however, they are not a fullness of divine spirit as GOD is. The angels are neither mortal (as men are) nor immortal (as GOD is). While the angels represent a unique and finite expression of divine mind, they are not in the oneness of spirit-person as are Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

      Satan exists in the earth as a prince and ruler from among the angels. In their creation, the angels were endowed with the full measure of knowledge and wisdom they would use throughout their service. Angels do not acquire truth as men do through experience over time granted to mankind as growth and learning. The angels were provided with such gifts as ability, authority, and feeling; and they were not given “sin”, a knowledge of sin, or an ability to repent for sin. Sin opposes the existence of divine law, of rule by GOD, and of existence for all things created of GOD. Also, sin generates spiritual confusion, and alters the divine content of created beings and living creatures. When sin (i.e., corruption) was found among the angels, destructive separation from divine person already had begun.

      The techniques for rule among the angels, and within the heaven, are not all appropriate for the earth and mankind. Thus, Satan is incapable of full and open dominion. Through deceit, misdirection and various wiles, he and his followers are able to exercise a limited influence upon mankind. Divine rule of mankind is now contested by sin, human ignorance, self-will, and weakness of the flesh. Acknowledgment of GOD (what we call “worship”) goes forward correctly only through ones inner awareness from the imparted, indwelling spirit supplied from GOD. Through the ministry of Jesus Christ upon the earth, and from the heavens, mankind may receive an additional endowment of sacred substance from the person of Almighty GOD. Included are faith, holiness, humility, longsuffering, wisdom and wrath against sin.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, men do not seek GOD so much as right knowledge of GOD (truth), and right standing with GOD (relationship). Satan does not seek relationship with men as equals or peers; nor does he seek to eat human flesh and blood. His lust is for control, power, and vindication.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.