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Deliverance and divine interventions that determine human behavior are a topic, today, along with more on freewill.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Kush” (Level 1 with 1 point, a member since June 24, 2013) posted the following:

Why do Christians say god stopped or saved “them”from doing this or that?

…..THAT’S SIMPLY CRAZY AND HYPOCRITICAL!

IF God created man perfect before being placed in the”garden of eden”….
And then allowed “SIN” to enter into his “perfect” garden,creation and world without doing anything,
Why would he care if you “sinned” or not now?…

HE forfeited it in the beginning when he could have stepped in and stopped them.(from sinning)…..HE IS GOD….RIGHT?,ALL POWER IS HIS NO?..YES?…WHICH ONE IS IT?

For better words,why interfere now? he should have done that in the beginning then you wouldn’t have to deal with it!…..

No matter how you try to explain it,it makes no sense!

I see what you mean by”made in his image”

BATTLE AXE:  Freewill is Finite (06/30/2013)—One may have “freewill” without also having lawful authority and jurisdiction, skill as a decision-maker, privilege through membership, and so-called “rights” secured through government or political participation.  For mankind, the many limits to freewill derive from the finite and conflicting natures of carnal, material, physical, social, and spiritual reality.  The unsanctified attitudes and actions of created beings and living creatures that emerge from freewill can not be justified before GOD even by the ministry of Jesus Christ.  Submitting to Christ, ones will is reconfigured and restructured to give expression to divine substance, sacred operations, and eternal purpose.  Freewill continues to be finite within believers and followers of Christ, yet, is increasingly responsive to divine will, and appears more and more clearly as an aspect or instrument of divinity.  See Deuteronomy 23:  21-23, Matthew 10:  8, Romans 6:  16-23 and 1st Corinthians 2:  11-16, King James Version.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:  he leadeth me beside the still waters.  He restoreth my soul:  he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil:  for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:  thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:  and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.  (Psalms 23:  1-6, King James Version)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Those Who Never Heard (06/07/2013); If You Are Sent…? (06/08/2013); Tests for Origins (08/27/2012); Jesus Our “Advocate” (08/16/2012); Wrong To Love? (08/17/2012); (10/29/2011) Binder 32:  Those Yet Unsaved; (09/05/2011) Dispatch 26:  The Shield; Adam Saved? (12/03/2010); 13 Epistles (12/04/2010)

“Kush”, here are some points important to those now living in the kingdom of GOD as believers through Jesus Christ:

(1)  GOD is a spirit, and his being and make-up consists totally in divinity and sacred matter.  Included are faith, holiness, longsuffering, joy, peace, wisdom, and wrath against sin.   GOD is revealed to and known by created beings and living creatures only through the operation of deposits and endowments of divine spirit matter present within their own awareness and being.

(2)  For mankind, the influences that determine actions, choices, beliefs and commitments are often subtle (we say, barely visible, fine and undetectable), and may go beyond the flesh (i.e., appetite, sensation, mental functions).  In the same way human error and mistakes are most correctly recognized after one takes action, sin remains hidden and invisible until self-will is made manifest in action or utterance.

(3)  Sin is not a carnal, material or physical thing; is not made of living substance or spirit; and is not put forth from GOD.  Even so, sin may dominate self-will in created beings and living creatures.  The “mystery” of sin is so great that multiple sacred mechanisms and operations have been provided to mankind as shields and tools against sin.  Included are anointed leaders, covenant, divine law, forbearance, forgiveness, incarnation (i.e., the appearance of GOD among mankind in flesh), life companions in holy matrimony, priesthood, prophecy, the cross and the imparted, indwelling spirit of GOD (we say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Prophecy).

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example,  (4)  Those who insist that their animal or angelic nature, their finite intelligence, or logic, or luck, or reason are sufficient to understand the profound truths of sovereign being, divinity and eternal life, usually do so through ignorance, immaturity, pride, and stubbornness.  They reject the life of continual spirit growth, learning and new experience that must be provided by GOD.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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      Sin as a threat against all existence is topic, today, along with more on divine judgment and justice. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Arabian” (Level 2 with 310 points, a member since December 28, 2012) posted the following:

Christians, what are we being saved from exactly?

THE BATTLE AXE: Put Every Man His Sword By His Side (01/01/2013)—The revelation of GOD to mankind through the holy writings do permit men to accept the necessary harshness of divine law. Severity and swiftness of destruction do not contradict the love, mercy and righteousness of GOD (see Deuteronomy 29: 29, KJV). Wickedness and sin are not features of divine being, and are not to be understood as spirit matter. The need for death as a penalty for sin derives from the truth that human ignorance, persistence, self-will, and various subtle (i.e., barely detectible and hidden) aspects of character, psyche, and spiritual makeup cannot be immediately changed, or altered over time by appeals to emotion, knowledge, logic and reason. Those “dead in spirit” (i.e., lacking divinity; having no endowment of the imparted, indwelling Spirit from the person of GOD) are unreachable and un-teachable as created beings. Death of the flesh that occurs as the completion of mortality is temporary; and despite the death of sinners their wickedness and sin does not terminate, because various consequences, and effects continue to emerge and materialize for an indefinite period. Wickedness and sin cannot be eternally confined, are progressive, replicate, and are self-regenerating (i.e., restarts; rekindles without outside assistance). Through sin, created beings and living creatures gradually lose the divine content that provides their existence as angels or men. Apart from death, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification of the living, there is no divine provision that makes Creation permanent, and that allows eternal life. The absolute and complete removal of what remains from once godly beings can finally be eliminated only after divine judgment, and through purification by immersion in the lake of fire (called the second death).

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. (1st John 5: 20, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Purchased With Blood? (12/29/2012); The Law Not Flawed (12/30/2012); An Attack on Creation? (12/08/2012); The Focus of Judgment (12/09/2012); More Than Salvation (11/27/2012); Does Everyone Go To Heaven? (10/28/2012); The Gospel not Logical? (09/16/2012); Unwelcome Gifts? (09/17/2012)

      Divine operations of redemption and salvation are called forth in connection with Creation, because the objects put forth from divine awareness and mind are limited as to their content of divine substance, and therefore may not endure. This is particularly so for created beings and living creatures such as angels, animals, insects, men, and the sacred beasts of heaven. Extending incorruptibility and immortality to the living, and making their existence eternal, requires many major events involving the substance of GOD, who is spirit. Included are Advent, Incarnation, birth, epiphany, death, rebirth, repentance, passion, judgment, sanctification, and the second death.

      The continuing existence of sacred person and sanctified being are opposed by sin; however, sin has no power to alter, damage or injure divine person. Almighty GOD is not threatened by sin; yet, sin may dominate the self-will of created beings and living creatures. The action of sin diminishes what we would call “will power,” and blocks human awareness of divine law, sacred purpose, and holy presence. Sin is not created by GOD, has no spirit content; and is no carnal, material, or physical thing that can be immediately known, resisted, and eliminated by angels and mankind. Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, the endowment of divine substance that establishes one in the image of GOD, may be increased or restored. Included here are faith, hope, humility, joy, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, ignorance and lack of awareness are like blindness. One may accomplish many great things despite a lack of vision: The blind also may enjoy important professional careers, marry, raise children, and be honored as major celebrities. Yet, look at all they miss. Once separated from sin, and joined to GOD whose will cannot be ruled of sin, the full measure of human potential includes a capacity to know and be known of GOD; to manifest the divine nature; and to accomplish the beauty and power of ones own divine vision.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC