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Today, focus is on mathematics as a tool for describing and knowing divinity that can introduce spiritual confusion, and its use be a form of idolatry.  Properly understood, spirit substance is immeasurable.  Because of the many subtleties involved (barely visible differences; hidden shifts in meaning, quality, and value) human attainments are often thought to be manifestations of divine power.  Included are astronomy, history, medicine, science and technology.  Arithmetic and mathematics are closed number systems that only permit the assignment, quantification, and manipulation of discrete values in accordance with fixed patterns and regularities.  While divinity appears as immortal, immutable, incorruptible, and unchanging, Deity also manifests the highest authority, dominion, divine prerogative, and sovereign will that establish autonomy, independence, and sanctification.  GOD is only predictable on the basis of his own acts of revelation, proclamation, promise, and prophecy; and will always remain mystery in multiple aspects of sacred being.  The  fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Malaysia)” using the ID “ιℓσνєιѕℓαм يا رب العالمين” (Level 2 with 888 points, a member since July 04, 2017) posted the following:

 

How is the trinity explained via math?

This is Monotheism: 1 God + 0 others = 1 God.

This is the trinity:
1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Spirit = 1 God.
ie, 1+1+1=1.
Simplified 3 =1

Some people say it’s 1x1x1=1.
But that is incorrect because the father/son/holy spirit are not equal.
The son has less power and knowledge than the father, etc. Not equal.
So it would be more like 1.5x1x0.5 =1 which is mathematically not sound.

Your thoughts, Christians?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1st Corinthians 2:  9-14, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Law and Divine Process (05/28/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); Time Is Not A Deity (11/30/2015); The Correct Prescription? (11/19/2015); No Other gods? (08/14/2015); Our Need for a Son (03/04/2013); Unless You Repent (03/05/2013)

 

“ιℓσνєιѕℓαм يا رب العالمين”, using the finite human measuring tools of arithmetic and mathematics to describe divinity is inappropriate, and borders upon idolatry (attributing celestial authority and power to a man-made object or process).  GOD must be understood as the active presence who has put forth all that exists.  Included are created beings and living creatures as well as their spheres of life and the settings for their activity, duration, and conclusion as a life form.

The full sum of divine substance (i.e., the total makeup of GOD) must be understood as spirit in its character, nature, and substance.  Thus, it is irrelevant and foolish to describe divinity in terms of the measurable dimensions observed for things carnal, material, secular, and social.  We can no more accurately describe GOD using the ideas of amount, size, and weight than we may by using physical senses such as seeing, tasting, and touching with our hands to know roughness, sharpness, and smoothness.

Even so, GOD makes Deity knowable, known, and “approachable” (we say, reveals divinity) using material forms, divine operations, sacred processes, and eternal purposes.  Increasingly, Christian believers are encouraged to apprehend that GOD is a spirit who may appear and exist within events, natural and sacred law, life essence (we also say, breath, word), prophecy, promises, themselves, and throughout the holy writings.  Inseparable aspects of spirit content from the makeup of GOD may be imparted to those who are “born again” such as faith, gratitude, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Such persons also must “grow up again” and become mature as vessels of divine spirit living on the earth.

That there can be oneness without sameness among the persons of the GODhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is properly regarded by mature believers as a “sacred mystery” to be acknowledged, yet, not challenged or questioned; for such a truth is grounded on divine prerogative, imperatives of eternal purpose, sacred law, and sovereign will.  Consider the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 29:  29, King James Version (KJV):  29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:  but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 12:  3, KJV:  3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, a reply is shared on making a world so “perfect” that those living in it would never be able to corrupt or defile it.  Through Jesus Christ the elements required for the completeness and integrity of heaven and earth are shown to be more than simply independence, secular knowledge, pleasure, prosperity, and self-will.  An emptiness and void can appear that are best filled using challenge, duty, hardship, trial, and suffering.  For Christian believers, the standards that actually generate and ensure the possibilities of perfection are the character, makeup, and personness of GOD.  Thus, among followers of Jesus Christ every act of fruitful creation will continue oneness without sameness, eternal revelation, righteousness, sanctification, sacred substance, and indicators of yet unseen truth.  In sum, yet not in every part, the perfection found throughout such Creation will display the inseparable aspects of the authority, awesomeness, glory, majesty, and sovereign will of GOD.  The writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia) using the ID “Master Debater” (Level 3 with 1,444 points, a member since April 07, 2017) posted the following:

 

Christians, do you have a different definition of a “perfect” world than I do?

If I was making a perfect world, I would make it so my perfect world couldn’t be ruined by its imperfect inhabitants.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Sanctify them through thy truth:  thy word is truth.  As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:  that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:  for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.  O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee:  but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.  And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it:  that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.  (John 17:  17-26, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Multiply, Replenish and Rule (08/27/2017); Adam’s Imperfection and Sin? (08/10/2017); Miracles Are Not Everlasting (07/18/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); Incarnate, GOD May Die (05/11/2017); The World and The Cross? (04/19/2016); Belief In Another World? (02/17/2016)

 

“Master Debater”, you have not told us what you mean by “perfect”, and you suggest by your question that divinity has failed to create a “perfect” world.  Even so, here are some points that are helpful to consider on your topic:

(a.)  What it takes to create a “perfect world” are the authority, jealousy, love, power, wisdom, and wrath against sin only found within the GODhead.  GOD has put forth everything that exists and has life.  This includes the created beings and living creatures as well as their spheres of life (i.e., the environments and settings that nourish and support their activity, development, growth and learning as well as their death, or conclusion as life forms).

(b.)  The heaven and earth are both spheres of life (like the land, the sea, and the full universe) that include family, language, marriage, and religious observances as institutions that had their origin because of GOD.  We also speak of the place of the dead (the grave), however it is not a place where the living abide and routinely make their homes.

(c.)  The world is a system of related exchanges, interactions, meanings, practices, standards, and values used by the living to maintain communication, cooperation, safety, and survival.  Where the earth is the creation of GOD, the world is the creation of men.  Thus, the world includes such finite devices and tools as government, history, language, money, politics, science, and technology.

(d.)  Christian believers regard life as having multiple possibilities for permanent change that are generated by the “active presence” who is the Creator, and is an immortal, incorruptible, invisible spirit.  Elements important for survival in the world are accounted as having less substance and usefulness (for example, the frameworks of time and space), and even death and sin are seen as reversible.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (e.)  Continuing life and existing on the earth for mankind may be totally changed through baptism (i.e., death and burial of ones inborn spirit, becoming born-again through divine DNA, so to speak).  Baptism may be thought of as a “first step” in a full series of divine actions that result in mankind’s perfection.  Where a sinner is granted rebirth, they become a “child of GOD” containing spirit content from the makeup of divinity.  They then can display inseparable aspects of GOD as faith, holiness, hope, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Once born again, every believer must “grow up again” by meeting life challenges and “growing pains” upon the earth.  At the coming of Jesus (we also say, at his appearing, the Advent, the harvest, the Rapture, the Second Coming) those who are “ripe” (mature) will be taken up to meet the Lord in the air.  Their perfection to exist as companions of divinity will be completed in an instant; and they will go to be with him throughout eternity upon the earth made new.)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on the falling of manna, and Jesus Christ understood as “the Word” and “the Living Torah.”  Where the name “the Word” speaks to the existence of Christ within GODhead before the foundations of heaven and earth “the Living Torah” speaks to his full appearing through Incarnation (i.e., birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension).  Divine life essence deposited within the body of Torah is to be discerned and visible as the blood of the new testament in Jesus Christ.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Mst” (Level 3 with 1,433 points, a member since July 19, 2009) posted the following:

 

I rarely do it, I read some part of New Testament. Particularly about Jesus words on Jews. Wasn’t Jesus wrong?

He supposed what are false. He said references from Torah which are not in Torah. For example, Torah NEVER says Moses prepared maan (that heavenly bread) for Jews, G-d did it. Torah Never says they should believe in Jesus OR should not kill the one who separate them from G-d of Israel. He says it is my father, not Your G-d, you can’t believe in Him solely.

OR when He says you are not doing Torah laws, if so, why did he reject that Jews are chosen people? Jesus didn’t believe in Torah. I think he intentionally or unintentionally didn’t know Torah……..

Thanks!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  12 Not through the dahm of se’irim (goats) and of agalim (bulls) but through his own dahm [Isa 52:15] he entered the Kodesh HaKodashim once and for all, having secured for us the Geulah Olamim.  13 For if the dahm of se’irim (goats) and parim (young bulls) and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have become tum’a (uncleanness), if this dahm sets apart for kedushah for the tohorah (purification) of the basar,  14 By how much more will the dahm of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach who through the eternal Ruach Hakodesh offered himself without MUM (defect, VAYIKRA 22:20) to G-d, by how much more will his DAHM (Isa 52:15) purify our matzpun (conscience) from ma’asim metim (dead works) in order to serve the Elohim Chayyim.  15 And for this reason Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach is the Metavekh of a Brit Chadasha in order that those who are HaKeru’im (the Called ones) may receive the nachalat olam (eternal inheritance) of the Havtachah (Promise), because a mavet, a kapparat hapeysha’im has taken place that gives them pedut (ransom for redemption, Geulah) from peysha’im (transgressions, Isa 53:5) that were committed under HaBrit HaRishonah.  16 For where there is a brit or a tzavva’a (will), it is aizen (well founded, incontrovertible) that the histalkus (passing) of the one who made it must be established.  17 For a Brit, a tzavv’a (covenant, will) is valid only when Bnei Adam have died, for it is never validly executed as long as the ba’al tzavva’a (testator, person who makes the will) lives.  18 Hence the Brit HaRishonah was not cut without DAHM. [Ex 24:8]  19 For when every mitzvah had been spoken by Moshe Rabbeinu to all the Am Brit according to the Torah, he took the dahm of se’irim and of agalim with mayim and scarlet wool and hyssop and sprinkled both the sefer itself and all the people,  20 Saying, “HINEI DAHM HABRIT (“This is the blood of the Covenant”—Ex 24:8) which Hashem commanded you.  21 And in the same way he sprinkled both the Mishkan and also all the k’lei haSherut (vessels of service in the Mishkan) with dahm.  22 Indeed, according to the Torah, almost everything is metohar (purified) by dahm, and without a kapporah by means of shefach dahm (the shedding of blood) there is no selicha (forgiveness).  23 Therefore, it was necessary for the tavnit (pattern, copy, SHEMOT 25:40) of the things in Shomayim be metohar (purified) with these, but the things of Shomayim themselves with better zevakhim than these.  24 For Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach did not enter into a Kodesh HaKodashim made by human hands, a mere TAVNIT (pattern, copy Ex 25:40) of the true Kodesh HaKodashim, but Moshiach entered into Shomayim itself, now to appear before the face of Hashem for us.  (Hebrews 9:  12-24, Orthodox Jewish Bible, OJB; all citations are from the Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB) Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Artists for Israel International.)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Word of GOD (09/05/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); Divinity Appears Using Form (07/26/2017); A Threat Against Judaism(07/17/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); The Cross and Judaism? (05/27/2016); Jesus Known As Word (01/17/2016) 

 

“Mst”, this may appear as new to you, however, here is what I now am willing to share with the Achim B’Moshiach: 

Even within “the law and the prophets” there are multiple divine condemnations of the Jews as a covenant people along with promises and prophecies regarding a new covenant, and their salvation through a remnant.  The focus of New Testament Scripture is neither the condemnation of all mankind through Adam, nor the condemnation of the Jews through the High Priests, the Sanhedrin, and the crowds who cursed themselves when crucifying Jesus.  Grounded in secular knowledge, many misread the holy writings, for the Scriptures are intended to impart sacred knowledge and spirit content from the makeup of GOD to those who themselves contain inseparable aspects of spirit substance from the makeup of GOD.  Included should be faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

More correctly understood, the holy writings should be taken as all proclaiming a single revelation to make divinity knowable, known, and accessible in establishing and maintaining multiple personal relationships (e.g., adoption, apostles, covenant partners, prophets, servants, spokespersons) with created beings and living creatures.  Divinity and the active presence who is GOD is to be “discovered” and realized as more than an abstraction, a set of natural and mechanical operations, or a product of finite human tools such as imagination, intellect, logic, and carnal reason. 

The righteousness of GOD appears through the many aspects of judgment and the administration of divine law that include atonement, correction, forbearance, forgiveness, impartiality, mercy, reconciliation, sacrifice, and the second death.  The “inadequacy” of the law provided through covenants with the 7 tribes of Canaan and those from Egypt who traveled with Moses was not in its moral, social or spiritual content and what it addressed.  Rather, the law that could expose and identify sin was not able of itself to eliminate sin.  Thus, consider again the following from the holy writings:

(1.)  Jeremiah 31:  31-36, Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB):  31 (30) Hinei, the days come, saith Hashem, that I will cut a Brit Chadasha with Bais Yisroel, and with Bais Yehudah;  32 (31) Not according to the Brit that I cut with their Avot in the day that I took hold of their yad to take them out of Eretz Mitzrayim; which My Brit they broke, although I was Ba’al (Husband) to them, saith Hashem;  33 (32) But this shall be the Brit that I will cut with Bais Yisroel [T.N. OJBC is Jewish]; After those days, saith Hashem, I will set My Torah in them inwardly, and I will write ketuvim on their hearts; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My People.  34 (33) And they shall teach no more every ish his re’a (neighbor), and every ish his brother, saying, Know Hashem; for they shall all have da’as of Me, from the katon of them unto the gadol of them, saith Hashem; for I will forgive their avon, and I will remember their chattat no more.  35 (34) Thus saith Hashem, which giveth the shemesh for an ohr by day, and the chukkot yarei’ach and chukkot kokhavim for an ohr by night, which stirreth up the sea when the waves thereof roar; Hashem Tzva’os is Shmo:  36 (35) If those chukkim depart from before Me, saith Hashem, then the Zera Yisroel also shall cease from being a Goy (Nation) before Me forever.

(2.)  Kehillah in Rome 8:  1-9, OJB:  1 Therefore, now there is no gezar din (verdict) of ashem (guilty), no harsha’ah (condemnation as guilty) for those in Moshiach Yehoshua (cf. Ro 5:18).  2 For the Torah of the Ruach HaKodesh that gives Chayyim in Moshiach Yehoshua [YIRMEYAH 31:31-34; YECHEZKEL 36:26-27] has set you free from the Chok of Chet and Mavet.  3 For what the Torah was unable to do in that it was weak through the basar (fallen human nature under Chet Kadmon and without hitkhadshut renewal and regeneration by the Ruach Hakodesh), G-d sent his own Ben HaElohim [Moshiach] in the very demut (likeness) of the basar of sinful humanity and as a chattat (sin offering, sin atoning sacrifice, 2C 5:21) and both pronounced and effected a sentence of death on HaChet baBasar (Sin in the Flesh, in the fallen old humanity)  4 In order that the maleh chukat haTorah (the full statute requirement of the Torah, see VAYIKRA 18:5) might be fulfilled in us whose halakhah is in the Derech [HaChayyim] (the Way of Life) according to the Ruach Hakodesh and not in accordance with the basar.  5 For those who exist in terms of the basar take the side of the basar, whereas those who exist in terms of the Ruach [Hakodesh] take the side of the Ruach Hakodesh.  6 For the way of thinking of the basar is mavet (death), whereas the way of thinking of the Ruach Hakodesh is Chayyim and Shalom.  7 Because the way of thinking of the basar is hostility, eyvah (enmity BERESHIS 3:15) toward G-d, for it does not submit itself to the Torah of G-d; for it cannot.  8 And those who are in the basar are not able to please Hashem.  9 However, you are not in the basar [i.e., unregenerate] but in the Ruach Hakodesh, assuming that the Ruach Hakodesh of Hashem does indeed dwell in you—if anyone does not have the Ruach HaMoshiach, that person does not belong to Moshiach.

(3.)  Yehudim in Moshiach 8:  7-13, OJB:  7 For if the Brit HaRishonah had been without fault, it would not have been necessary to speak about a Brit HaShniyah [YIRMEYAH 31:30-33 (31-34)].  8 For, when Hashem finds fault with them, he says, “HINEI YAMIM BA’IM, NE’UM HASHEM, VKHARATI ES BEIS YISRAEL V’ES BEIS YEHUDAH BRIT CHADASHA” (“Behold, days are coming, says Hashem, when I will establish with the Beis Yisroel and with the Beis Yehudah a Brit Chadasha”).  9 “Not like the Brit that I made with their forefathers on the day I took them by the hand to lead them out from the land of Egypt; because they broke my Brit, though I was a husband to them”)  10 “KI ZOT HABRIT ASHER EKHROT ES BEIS YISROEL ACHAREI HAYAMIM HAHEM, NE’UM HASHEM; NATATI ES TORATI BEKIRBAM V’AL LIBAM EKHTAVENNAH, V’HAYITI LAHEM L’ELOHIM V’HEMMAH YIH’YU LI LE’AM” (“Because this is the Brit which I will make with the Beis Yisroel after those days, says Hashem:  putting my Torah into the mind of them and upon the levavot of them I will write it and I will be to them G-d and they will be to Me a people”— see Jer 31:30-33; also Prov 30:4; 8:30;Yn 1:1; Rev 3:20).  11 “V’LO YELAMMEDU OD ISH ES RE’EHU V’ISH ES AKHIV LEMOR, DE’U ES HASHEM; KI KHULAM YEDE’U OTI LEMIKTANNAM V’AD GEDOLAM” (“No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying ‘Have da’as of Hashem,’ because they will all have da’as of Me, from the least of them to the greatest.”)  12 “KI ESLACH LA’AVONAM U’LECHATTATAM LO EZKAR OD” (“For I will forgive the wickedness of them and their sin I will remember no more.” Jer 31:30-33 [31-34]).  13 When Hashem uses the word “CHADASHA” he has thereby made the Brit HaRishonah yeshanah and a Brit thus made aging, is near to being yakhlof (vanished).

(4.)  Mattityahu 28:  17-20, OJB:  17 And when they saw him, they prostrated themselves before him, but some were doubtful.  18 And he came up and spoke to them, saying, All samchut (authority) has been given to me in Shomayim and on HaAretz.  19 Go, therefore, make talmidim for Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach of all the nations, giving them a tevilah in a mikveh mayim in Hashem, in the Name of HaAv, and HaBen, and HaRuach Hakodesh,  20 Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And hinei! I [Moshiach] am with you always, even unto the Ketz HaOlam Hazeh.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Tehillim 85:  10-12, OJB:  10 (11) Chesed and emes will meet together; tzedek and shalom will kiss each other.  11 (12) Emes shall titzmach (sprout forth [T.N. Tzemach—Branch, Sprout—is the code name for Moshiach and the coming Tzemach’s Namesake in Zecharyah 6:11-12 is Yehoshua, Yeshua—see Ezra 3:8; Zech 3:8; 6:11-12. Go to Jer 23:5 and look at all the references. These are among the most important Scriptures in the Bible because it is here that the saving Name of Moshiach Tzidkeinu is prophetically communicated for salvation; the word Tzemach means “Moshiach” and it is the code word par excellence for Moshiach in the post-Exilic references in the minor prophets; this veiled reference to Moshiach was necessary in the situation of the Return under Persian rule when talk of a coming king was a delicate matter.]) out of ha’aretz; and tzedek shall look down from Shomayim.  12 (13) Yes, Hashem shall give that which is tov; and Artzeinu (our land) shall yield her yevul (increase, produce).  [Citations are from the Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB) Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Artists for Israel International.]  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on the oneness without sameness for the Incarnate Christ, the imparted Spirit, and the holy writings.  The book, the man Jesus Christ, and the imparted spirit within believers are three appearances (forms) of one divine life essence and truth.  Sinners are to engage GOD in a dialog and continuing relationship, so to speak.  Where they can manifest the character of Christ, and behave as a son to the Father, they will be able to receive the same blessings of acceptance and eternal life bestowed on the Lord.  To say Jesus was a carnal embodiment of divinity declares that divine substance resided within in him such as discernment, holiness, person, presence, eternal purpose, righteousness, and sovereign will.  Thus, to embody Jesus Christ is more than simply to present verses of Scripture, or perform peculiar sacred practices (e.g., baptism, foot-washing, healing, prayer).  One must serve as a vessel of spirit substance imparted from the makeup of divinity.  Inseparable aspects of Deity should appear including faith, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom and wrath against sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Brendon” (Level 5 with 5,490 points, a member since May 21, 2015) posted the following:
 

Ok Christians..which one is it?

Is the Bible the word of God…
OR is the Word of God living..and at the right hand of the Father.

Was it “In the beginning was the Word…”

or “In the beginning was the King James Bible…”

Update:  What do you know about King James?
What do you know about the Bible…
What do you know…about the Word….did it become flesh? Or manufactured by Zondervan?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.  I am the vine, ye are the branches:  He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:  for without me ye can do nothing.  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.  If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.  Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.  As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you:  continue ye in my love.  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.  These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.  (John 15:  4-11, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Actual Utterance From GOD? (08/11/2017); One Complete Divine Revelation (07/09/2017); The Two-edged Sword (01/09/2017); Christus Natus Est Nobis (12/29/2016); Holy Writings and Spirit? (12/16/2016); Word, Son, and Christ? (08/24/2016); GOD Appearing As Word (01/14/2016)

 

“Brendon”, Jesus Christ and the holy writings both convey and impart spirit content, sacred operations, and eternal purposes that should be understood as “life” from the makeup of GOD.  Here are some points that help believers avoid spiritual confusion:

(1)  Mature Christian believers usually acknowledge “the Word” as one of the three “persons” that appear as the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead).  Because this aspect of divinity existed before Creation, and has appeared on the earth using the form of a man, other names also are used for him.  Included are “the Son of GOD,” “the Son of the Highest,” “Jesus Christ,” “the Lamb of GOD,” and “the living word.” 

(2)  In the same way the full collection of your own thoughts are an appearance and expression of your existence distinct from your physical characteristics (eye color, hair color, height, weight), the Word exists as that aspect of GOD who communicates, exchanges and interacts with created beings and living creatures for their edification, salvation, sanctification, and perfection.

(3)  The Bible is a collection of accounts and utterances from GOD using various human events, spokespersons (e.g., patriarchs, judges, kings, apostles, prophets) and sacred agents (e.g., angelic messengers, the host of heaven, the twenty-four elders, the Holy Spirit).  Properly read, the holy writings display a continuous revelation that allows the reader to “discover” the active presence and multiple persons who are a single GOD imparting divine substance to thousands of events, through thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4)  Just as divine law was imparted to the earth before the Ten Commandments were written in stone with the finger of GOD, doctrine, mysteries and secrets from GOD intended for mankind existed long before the King James Version of the Bible was written.  Jesus, as the living word, was born in the flesh to establish a new creation.  Fixed conditions, law, limitations, and standards from GOD existed before the creation of Adam where a form created from earth was endowed with sacred breath (we also say, life essence, spirit, utterance).  The terms for covenant relationships with GOD, inheritance as offspring (sons and daughters) of GOD, and the eternal purposes that require mankind be made immortal and incorruptible to exist as companions of divinity always have been in existence, yet, not accessible to all or permanently deposited in the awareness of the created as sacred knowledge and wisdom.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Today, topics shared include the makeup of divinity, mercy, proportion, and divine justice.  Mercy appears during judgment as grace, divine prerogative, and sovereign will, and should never be confused with human strivings that often are arbitrary, biased, fickle, and subjective.  In the same way sin may not be completely and correctly described using measurable dimensions such as height, length, size, and weight, the full substance of divine justice can not be properly recognized and responded to while concentrating only on such carnal, material, and social constructs as dualism, either/or, equality, fairness, “pay-back”, and revenge.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Axel” (Level 1 with 185 points, a member since May 08, 2017) posted the following:

 

Spiritual people where does Forgiveness stand with Justice?

I believe Justice is the most important moral value in creation. No wonder it’s symbolized by the scales. Tipped scales are horrible everyone agrees. The balance exists even in atoms neutrons and protons are in equal numbers and when they aren’t the material starts disintegrating. Birds have two balanced wings. Humans walk on two feet, if one foot is sightly shorter you get a visible limp. So balance is everything. If you want your country to prosper make sure to balance everything. But then people come and preach about forgiveness. Now forgiveness means sometimes we turn our backs to Justice. I honestly can’t bring myself to accept that. Justice is above all. So what’s your opinion?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.  (James 2:  13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Law and Judgment Revealed (08/06/2017); Transformation Not Obedience Alone (07/02/2017); Salvation Goes Beyond Forgiveness (06/30/2017); Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); Temporal and Eternal Judgment (02/15/2017); Law, Vengeance, and Punishment? (09/30/2016)

 

“Axel”, here are some points I can share that I trust are in line with Christian belief: 

1.  Forgiveness may be understood as a divine operation to maintain and repair intimate and personal relationships with divinity.  Forgiveness may also be discerned as a peculiar expression of mercy.

2.  Balance is not always a condition described by a mathematical split of fifty-fifty  It is no less balance when we see 60-40, 70-30, and 98-02%.  Consider again, when making a cake that is supposed to keep its form and shape to be eaten, it can not be all flour (too bitter), all sugar (too sweet), all milk (too liquid).  Diverse elements are joined in varying measures, butter, vanilla extract—even a “dash” of poison is included (sodium chloride, table salt)—and the cake is forced through the fire to take on its final, permanent form.

3.  Of the 3 aspects for prophecy as a sacred process (i.e., comfort, edification, exhortation) forgiveness aligns most with exhortation (i.e., encouraging a person to change and to take action) such as rebirth, reconciliation, regeneration, renewal, and repentance.

4.  The full revelation whereby divinity is made knowable, known, and “visible” uses divine law (called the “express will of God”), multiple sanctions within the law that describe its benefits from obedience and penalties for disobedience as well as final judgment wherein the impartiality, righteousness, and thoroughness of GOD are displayed. 

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  That GOD is a “god of judgment” should not be regarded in human terms focused only on “fairness”, for GOD is a totality of spirit who appears using oneness without sameness (the three persons, Father, Son, Holy Spirit).  The inseparable aspects of spirit include faith, forbearance, holiness, hope, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, person, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Deity appears as an active presence on the basis of exchange, interaction and continual configuration and reconfigurations of divine substance.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on the revelation of divinity, law, judgment, and sin.  A fighter suggests that Jesus Christ demonstrated deliverance from death may come by flaws, “loopholes,” and technicalities within the law.  Many believers are surprised to find that the full instruction of the Gospel, and its prophecies of GOD through Jesus Christ include descriptions of final judgment.  Before-unseen ideas are shared such as the first and second resurrection; the second death; and the destruction of Satan as well as the truths that the conduct of final tribunals will be without accusers, and all will be challenged only by the testimony of their own deeds found recorded in the Lamb’s book of life.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Mortal Seeker” (Level 3 with 2,142 points, a member since April 14, 2012) posted the following:

 

Christians, why didn’t Jesus stone the woman caught in adultery, if he was God and God punishes the wicked when its time for judgment?

She was brought before Jesus for judgment, she was unquestionably guilty under the law, and there’s no indication that she had repented or was one of his followers before the judgment began.

Yet he let her go on the ground that her accusers were imperfect in their obedience to the law. Why would he do that if he was God and God punishes people when its time for judgment if they haven’t repented and joined Jesus?

Would Jesus likewise let us go on Judgment Day on the grounds that Satan the Accuser is imperfect in his obedience to the law?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (Romans 8:  2-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Mercy to the Merciless? (07/30/2017); Becoming Free From Sin (07/16/2017); GOD Indwells Divine Law (07/14/2017); Thoughts On The Commandments (06/27/2017); Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); A Ministry to Cripples? (03/14/2017)

 

“Mortal Seeker”, where we respond to accounts in the Scriptures on the basis of their carnal, material, secular, and social elements, we often fail to apprehend their fullness as revelations of divinity and as sacred knowledge.  We are to see that the guilty adulteress and the paralytic brought by his friends show oneness without sameness.  Just as on the cross, Jesus embodied Israel and all mankind, the Savior embodied sin and demonstrated its destruction by the Father and the Holy Spirit.  Mature Christians acknowledge that Jesus appeared as an Incarnation of the full GODhead, who revealed the character, substance and makeup of Deity, while also exposing the operations of sin as contrary to existence, life, eternal purpose, and sovereign will.  Going further, the Savior also revealed more regarding the nature and process both of divine judgment, and of sacred law.

In Creation, divinity is shown to operate as multiple persons existing as oneness without sameness.  GOD is seen in authority, power, purpose, and his role as the single source for all that exists.  In Salvation, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit focus on mankind, and divinity is to be known through such elements as atonement, forgiveness, longsuffering, and lovingkindness.  In Judgment, divinity is specially to be known through impartiality, mercy, righteousness, and thoroughness.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Hosea 6:  4-6, King James Version (KJV):  4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.  5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth:  and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.  6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

(2.)  Matthew 9:  2-7, KJV:  2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed:  and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.  3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.  4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?  5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?  6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.  7 And he arose, and departed to his house.

(3.)  Jeremiah 33:  20-26, KJV:  20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;  21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.  22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured:  so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.  23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,  24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.  25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:  for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  2nd Peter 3:  10-15, KJV:  10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.  11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,  12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?  13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.  14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.  15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on the demand that ministry and sacred practice always be in obedience to divine instruction and law.  Those agreeing to serve GOD are to carry out and express eternal purposes and the will of one who is immutable and unchanging.  The process of GOD goes forward as a way that has met many challenges, has been tested and tried, and has repeatedly prevailed above temporal emotions and good intentions.  True ministry to GOD derives from ones endowment of the inseparable aspects of divine spirit.  Obedience to GOD, therefore, is an act of being (we say, existence) and the performance of sovereign will in place of self-expression.  Incarnation, being joined to divinity, and unity with the Creator are to appear and be made manifest through obedience.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “The Buy Bull” (Level 2 with 564 points, a member since May 13, 2016) posted the following:

 

Did you know God kills the Good Samaritan?

(2 Samuel 6:6-7) And when they came to Nachon’s threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.  Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.  Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?  Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.  Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit:  for why will ye die, O house of Israel?  For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD:  wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.  (Ezekiel 18:  26-32, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  David, Goliath and GOD (05/26/2017); Divine Law Expresses Love (05/10/2017); Presumption Is Never Helping (05/23/2016); Priesthood and The Cross (03/20/2016); Ark of the Covenant? (03/17/2015); Guilt and Ignorance? (12/04/2014); Joined To Christ Through Faith (12/05/2014)
 

“The Buy Bull”, the death of Uzzah resulted from many errors concerning the holy things.  The Ark of the Covenant was never to be touched directly by human hands.  The Levites, appointed as the 1st born of every animal, family, and household would not be destroyed on the altar; instead, they were to serve the Priests of the Tabernacle as “living sacrifices.”  Poles were attached that were to be used in lifting and moving the Ark whenever the 12 tribes grouped as the camp(s) of Israel would journey; and the Levites were to carry the Ark on their shoulders.  The use of carts to move the Ark was introduced by the Philistines, and that also resulted in the death of many.

Christian believers recognize that many important accounts appear in the Scriptures that speak to sins of ignorance and errors in the holy things.  Included are the account of Joshua and Achan at Jericho, and the reports of Nadab and Abihu (sons of Aaron, the High Priest), the rebellion of Korah and other Levites who wanted to offer incense like the Priests, and the lessons on Hophni and Phinehas (sons of Eli, the High Priest).  Only those of the priesthood are authorized to make atonement, or offer animal sacrifices and blood.  Only true prophets (and anointed apostles) are to be acknowledged as spokespersons sent from both GOD and mankind.

Because, to obey is to put aside ones own will, and to perform the will of another, to obey is one of the highest expressions of love and unselfish giving.  Obedience to divine law and the sovereign will of GOD appears on the earth through the character, makeup, and substance of created beings and living creatures.  Fresh endowments from the makeup of GOD are to indwell the living.  Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, joy, lovingkindness, restraint, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The awareness and self-will are to display the “oneness without sameness” among the persons of full divinity (we say, the GODhead) whereby the living may be spoken of as vessels of divine seed, children of GOD, and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Leviticus 5:  17, King James Version (KJV):  17 And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.

(2.)  1st Chronicles 15:  2, KJV:  2 Then David said, None ought to carry the ark of God but the Levites:  for them hath the LORD chosen to carry the ark of God, and to minister unto him for ever.

(3.) 1st Chronicles 15:  11-13, KJV:  11 And David called for Zadok and Abiathar the priests, and for the Levites, for Uriel, Asaiah, and Joel, Shemaiah, and Eliel, and Amminadab,  12 And said unto them, Ye are the chief of the fathers of the Levites:  sanctify yourselves, both ye and your brethren, that ye may bring up the ark of the LORD God of Israel unto the place that I have prepared for it.  13 For because ye did it not at the first, the LORD our God made a breach upon us, for that we sought him not after the due order.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 6:  16-23, KJV:  16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?  17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.  18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.  19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh:  for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.  20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.  21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.  23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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