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Today, focus is on Incarnation, and the substance from GOD deposited within Jesus Christ that makes him a “son of God.”  What Jesus contains that makes him an offspring to divinity are the inseparable aspects of sacred spirit (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, righteousness, wisdom, wrath against sin).  What the Lord contained that made him human on the earth was flesh (e.g., appetite, mind, mortality, sensation, sentiment).  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

Christians if jesus is son of god then half of his genetic material should come from god!that means god have dna!!how do you explain this?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,  To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.  And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee:  blessed art thou among women.  And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.  And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary:  for thou hast found favour with God.  And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.  He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest:  and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:  And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.  Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?  And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:  therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.  And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age:  and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.  For with God nothing shall be impossible.  (Luke 1:  26-37, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  One Complete Divine Revelation (07/09/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); How Christ Is Known? (04/24/2017); Redemption Through Ordinary Flesh? (04/20/2017); His Birth Signals Rebirth (01/03/2017); His Children Are Sanctified (10/12/2016)

 

“Anonymous”, your thoughts seem pinned to the academic models describing biological and sexual reproduction that ignore the operations of divinity by centering only on what is carnal, material, secular, and social.  The existence, power and possibilities of spirit substance can not be completely and correctly known while depending upon carnal reason, secular knowledge, and such finite tools as intellect, logic, philosophy, and science.  Many false and inappropriate assumptions are made, and ideas from conjecture and speculation are relied on that have no validity (truth value).

The holy writings actually do provide a language and coherent set of meanings and values that even permit consideration of the full aggregation of spirit substance (we say, the Godhead).  Acknowledging ourselves as made in the image and through the processes of divinity, created beings and living creatures seek communication, exchange, and continuous interactions with divinity (we say, ongoing relationships).  In addition to active presence, authority, balance, completeness, and perfection, divinity is understood as appearing through the use of form and multiple persons (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).  In agreement with this, divine law, diverse principles, and sacred standards should come into view that include the living completing mortality; oneness without sameness; sinners receiving imparted spirit content from the makeup of GOD; rebirth, spiritual revival, and regeneration; resurrection from the dead; and the final destruction of sin through the second death.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, 1st Corinthians 2:  9-14, King James Version (KJV):  9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, the principle of oneness without sameness is used to describe sins instead of comparing them on a scale from bad to worse.  Sin is an influence that may dominate awareness and self-will in the living, and that becomes visible as the direction and effect of discrete events, and life experiences.  Correctly understood, only one consequence and effect eventually follows the operations of sin:  dishonor; spiritual confusion; fear of discovery and exposure; guilt; separation from divinity; and the second death.  While sin is not yet removed from the earth, divine gifts and ongoing sacred operations are in place that provide relief and renewal to the living.  Included are atonement, forgiveness, promise, prophecy, rebirth, and reconciliation.  Sinners can receive divine benefits such as oneness of Spirit with those who belong to GOD through Jesus Christ.  In place of sameness developing believers also may experience accord, agreement, balance, completion, diversity, interdependence, mutual support, and shared understanding.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians say all sin is the same?

When clearly there are sins worse than other.

Update:  others*

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.  (1st John 1:  5-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Becoming Free From Sin (07/16/2017); Thoughts On The Commandments (06/27/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); The Fullness of GODhead? (01/09/2014); World Without End? (01/10/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, for the followers of Jesus Christ, guidance and instruction regarding sin are shared on multiple levels.  Divinity must be acknowledged as the origin of existence, of specific life processes and purposes as well as a living entity who displays authority and sovereign will.  As when speaking of the complete fullness of active presence that Christian believers acknowledge as a single “divine person” (we say, the GODhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit), the principle of oneness without sameness also comes into use when speaking of sin.  Because GOD is a spirit, and being in a continuous relationship with divinity requires more than carnal, material, secular, and social understandings, mature Christian beliefs about sin center on being in covenant and sacred exchange through praise, prayer, divine proclamation (we also say, commandment, law), the fresh endowment of imparted spirit content from the makeup of GOD (we also say, breath, life essence, word), promise, and prophecy.

Sin is not to be dealt with always on the basis of attitudes, behavior, and conduct so much as in terms of its character, nature, and substance that may dominate awareness and self-will within created beings and living creatures.  The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law (i.e., the expressed will of GOD), the Law Giver, and all divine order that appears throughout the universe.  Sin is no object or thing having measurable dimensions or spirit substance from GOD, yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.  Sin is not rational and selective; and sin promotes nonexistence and the return to conditions in place before the foundation of heaven and earth. 

The will of GOD is not subject to sin.  Neither the ministry of Jesus Christ on the earth nor from the heaven as Risen Lord have yet eliminated sin.  Even so, the living may receive fresh endowments of spirit content from the makeup of GOD that permit increased commitment, discernment, and discovery of Deity as well as exposure of and renewed resistance against sin.  Inseparable aspects from the makeup of GOD are imparted including faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Leviticus 5:  15-19, King James Version (KJV):  15 If a soul commit a trespass, and sin through ignorance, in the holy things of the LORD; then he shall bring for his trespass unto the LORD a ram without blemish out of the flocks, with thy estimation by shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for a trespass offering.  16 And he shall make amends for the harm that he hath done in the holy thing, and shall add the fifth part thereto, and give it unto the priest: and the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering, and it shall be forgiven him.  17 And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.  18 And he shall bring a ram without blemish out of the flock, with thy estimation, for a trespass offering, unto the priest:  and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his ignorance wherein he erred and wist it not, and it shall be forgiven him.  19 It is a trespass offering:  he hath certainly trespassed against the LORD.

(2.)  1st John 3:  4-10, KJV:  4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:  for sin is the transgression of the law.  5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.  6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:  whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.  7 Little children, let no man deceive you:  he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.  8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.  9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him:  and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.  10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:  whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

(3.)  Romans 14:  19-23, KJV:  19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.  20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.  21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.  22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.  23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith:  for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  1st John 5:  16-20, KJV:  16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death:  I do not say that he shall pray for it.  17 All unrighteousness is sin:  and there is a sin not unto death.  18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.  19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.  20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is made on the duration and lasting effects of sacred events (miracles).  By the operations of GOD, one-time events that are completely broken off and ended within their physical settings and temporal intervals may endure and exist as continuous, ongoing, and unfinished within consciousness as well as within spirit.  Also, while faith may produce miracles, miracles do not always produce faith.  Miracles often appear as marvels, or wonders that result from the interruption and suspension of the regularities acknowledged as “natural law” among such academic disciplines as Astronomy, Biochemistry, Genetics, and Physics.  However, correctly understood, miracles rarely occur as disturbances or disruptions of divine order.  Miracles expressing the authority and sovereign will of GOD are temporal events directed to carnal, material, and social conditions, and always appear in accordance with divine law, eternal purpose, and sacred process.  Without the preparation that comes through faith, sacred knowledge, and regular practice of divine sacraments, the sudden, unexpected appearance of miracles results in sinners having increased disbelief, fear, skepticism, and spiritual confusion.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “maulporphy” (Level 5 with 8,905 points, a member since March 24, 2016) posted the following:

 

If Jesus cured the sick and raised the dead, how come they’re not still alive?

Seems like a perfect man would perform perfect miracles

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed:  and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.  And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.  And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?  For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.  And he arose, and departed to his house.  But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.  (Matthew 9:  2-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Fed From The Altar? (06/19/2017); Benefits of His Kingdom? (04/11/2017); A Ministry to Cripples? (03/14/2017); Diversity and Prophetic Gifts (11/22/2016); On Really Seeing Angels (10/09/2016); Sight to the Blind? (07/30/2015); Power Against Sin? (04/12/2015); Why Did Jesus Heal? (02/03/2015); Help Thou Mine Unbelief (12/31/2014)

 

“maulporphy”, for Christian believers, the presence of unseen things are being established on the basis of faith, not on the basis of what is seen.  On the one hand, the revelation of divinity to created beings and living creatures addresses multiple aspects of their consciousness (e.g., intellect, logic, imagination, recall), and must use finite devices, events, and tools to make immortal, invisible GOD, who is active presence and spirit, knowable, known, and accessible through regular contact, exchanges and interactions (we say, ongoing relationships).  On the other hand, to apprehend divine fullness (we say, the GODhead; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) one must contain and rely upon their own endowment of spirit substance imparted from the makeup of GOD.  Included are inseparable aspects of Deity such as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

The perfection of Jesus Christ (the Father, or the Holy Spirit) must be known using discernment and sacred (not secular) knowledge.  The manifesting of GOD in the Son is more than a matter of the Savior’s deeds and works to benefit mankind; for the divine operations of Creation, judgment, salvation, and eternal life are grounded in proclamation, promise, prophecy, and actualizing utterance (word).  Both the ministry of Jesus on the earth, and the spiritual gifts that have been received by his followers are in the nature of a partial payment, or “good faith” deposit.  In addition to acts of faith and prophetic demonstrations, the revelation of GOD through Jesus Christ has shared admonition, exorcism (casting out unclean spirits), commanded expectations (we say, hope), healing, judgment, preaching, sacred events (we say, miracles) as well as raising the dead.  Yet to be seen are the conclusion of final judgment, the second death, and the distribution of rewards to those who have worked for Christ.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  2nd Corinthians 1:  21-22, King James Version (KJV):  21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;  22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

(2.)  Romans 1:  18-21, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

(3.)  Ephesians 1:  9-14, KJV:  9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:  10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:  11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:  12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.  13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation:  in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,  14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

There is much more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  1st Corinthians 2:  7-14, KJV:  7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:  8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:  for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is made on the difficulty of becoming free from sin.  Created beings and living creatures are to be vessels containing divine law, praise, and the inseparable aspects of divinity.  Included are balance, faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, sobriety, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Freedom from sin may be apprehended only through the operations of divinity.  Sin is an enigma for the living.  The operations of sin may be described as appearing when spirit content from the makeup of divinity is absent, or diminished.  Sin does not exist as independent, or as having form like a material object; yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.  As the offspring of Adam, men do inherit physical characteristics, behavioral inclinations, traits, and various limits to human possibilities.  Even so, as with talking about the abstractions “mind” and “psyche”, our speaking of a “sin nature” is a device and an overlay from language, and there is no actual artifact, material object, or measurable substance that is “sin”.  Sin has not been eliminated by the death of Jesus Christ on the cross; nonetheless, through his ministries on the earth and from the heaven, the living receive endowments of Spirit from GOD whereby they discern, recognize, and resist the operations of sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Salazar” (Level 4 with 3,703 points, a member since April 24, 2017) posted the following:

 

Why is it difficult to get out of sin?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Therefore, there is no longer any condemnation awaiting those who are in union with the Messiah Yeshua.  Why? Because the Torah of the Spirit, which produces this life in union with Messiah Yeshua, has set me free from the “Torah” of sin and death.  For what the Torah could not do by itself, because it lacked the power to make the old nature cooperate, God did by sending his own Son as a human being with a nature like our own sinful one [but without sin].  God did this in order to deal with sin, and in so doing he executed the punishment against sin in human nature,  so that the just requirement of the Torah might be fulfilled in us who do not run our lives according to what our old nature wants but according to what the Spirit wants.  For those who identify with their old nature set their minds on the things of the old nature, but those who identify with the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.  Having one’s mind controlled by the old nature is death, but having one’s mind controlled by the Spirit is life and shalom.  For the mind controlled by the old nature is hostile to God, because it does not submit itself to God’s Torah — indeed, it cannot.  Thus, those who identify with their old nature cannot please God.  But you, you do not identify with your old nature but with the Spirit — provided the Spirit of God is living inside you, for anyone who doesn’t have the Spirit of the Messiah doesn’t belong to him.  (Romans 8:  1-9, Complete Jewish Bible, CJB)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  GOD Indwells Divine Law (07/18/2017); The Administration Of Death (07/11/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); Righteousness Through Jesus Christ? (12/15/2016); Birth, Self-will and Sin? (11/13/2016)

 

“Salazar”, for Christian believers, the correct knowledge of sin requires a correct awareness of the active presence who is GOD, and his sacred operations as Creator, Law Giver, and Sovereign over all that exists.  Where the living rely on the frameworks of time and space to manipulate data and information as knowledge, the operations of sin mistakenly appear to be everywhere and ever-present (i.e., throughout time and space).  Also, the error that sin is an aspect of human makeup that may not be removed derives from descriptions of life experience and reality that rely on finite tools such as secular knowledge, logic, carnal reason, philosophy, and science.

Many hold that sin is an aspect of human nature, and that the appearance of sin through attitudes, behavior, beliefs, and practice are acceptable and “normal”.  Sin offends the Creator, for sin fosters and promotes the non-existence of GOD and all that Deity has created.  To finite beings, sin is no more than a simple influence, and does not appear as contrary to eternal purposes and human existence.  It remains, however, that the creation of mankind has been by the imparting of divine substance (we say, breath, life essence, spirit, word).

The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law, the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead—the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit), and the divine order appearing as the universe.  Sin may be a residue from the condition of streaming matter (we say, the flux, the chaos) that was in place before the foundation of earth and heaven.  Sin has not been put forth from the spirit content of divinity; sin is not a spirit; and sin is no common object or material thing (e.g., mist, particles, smoke).  Sin has no measurable dimensions (depth, height, weight), yet, the operations of sin may dominate awareness and self-will within created beings and living creatures; and can not be eliminated or removed by the living through applications of their own intellect and willpower. 

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, in the same way divinity inhabits the praises of those who belong to GOD, divinity inhabits divine law.  The living who internalize, obey, and give continual expression to the righteousness of sacred law become free of sin.  Multiple divine operations are in place to cleanse and separate the living from sin.  Included are anointing, atonement, baptism, forgiveness, incarnation, inheritance, judgment, rebirth, sanctification, the embodiment of sin on the cross, and the resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on the existence of only one tree of life.  As with the tree of knowledge, the burning bush, the barren fig tree, and the cross, simple figures and images are used throughout the holy writings to communicate regarding the things that are deep and profound.  Thus, the awesomeness and power of divinity are portrayed using abundance, multiplying, plenty, rebirth, replenishing, and reproduction.  GOD is to be known and spoken of as One, yet, the fullness of divinity appears using multiple events, forms, and persons (e.g., the Father, Son and Holy Spirit).  Similarly, divinity appears using diversity and many different devices that give expression to the same eternal purpose (e.g., active presence, authority, birth, divine law, spiritual gifts, imparted Spirit, sovereign will).  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Oku” (Level 2 with 951 points, a member since September 23, 2011) posted the following:

 

If the Earth has all the requirements for life to arise and survive, why is there only one single tree of life?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;  One Lord, one faith, one baptism,  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.  (Ephesians 4:  4-6, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Plantings of the Lord (02/10/2017); Acorns Become Oak Trees? (02/09/2017); A Rebellious Fig Tree? (12/21/2016); The Barren Tree? (12/06/2013); Fruits From a Barren Tree? (12/07/2013); Why Clothing? (10/15/2010); Known by GOD? (10/16/2010)

 

“Oku”, be alert to see a pattern that appears throughout the holy writings:  “oneness without sameness.”  Your question conforms to a familiar pattern (when ABCDEFG appears, we know XYZ is coming; when 2-4-6-8-10 appears, we should expect 14-16-18-20!) used within the holy writings to describe the character, nature, and sufficiency of GOD:  why does Gideon go into battle with only 300 soldiers after sending thousands back to their homes? Why are there only 5 loaves and 2 fishes to feed 5,000 men not counting the women and children?  Why is there only one sun, one moon, one GOD, one universe?

Mature Christians trust that GOD is the invisible, yet, active presence (we say, breath, spirit, word) who has put forth all duration, existence, form, life, person, and substance.  GOD may inhabit consciousness and self-will within the living, and uses multiple divine events and sacred operations to reveal and permit discovery of divine fullness (we say, the GODhead:  Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).  Secular knowledge concentrates on objects that are carnal, material, and social.  Thus, human intelligence, logic, science, and “critical thinking” often center in describing precise dimensions and measurable form.  By contrast, sacred knowledge and practice go forward as responses to defining precepts, principles, and regularities that are emanated from divinity (i.e., have divine person, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of Deity as their origin), and that are fixed, immutable and unchanging.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Colossians 2:  8-12, King James Version (KJV):  8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.  10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:  11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:  12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

(2.)  Romans 1:  20-22, KJV:  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

(3.)  Job 33:  4, KJV:  4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

(4.)  1st Timothy 3:  16, KJV:  16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:  God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is made on the Old and New Testament being both part of a single divine revelation wherein GOD is Father to all.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “OkieDevil” (Level 2 with 839 points, a member since January 21, 2017) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians still worship the Old Testament when Jesus says the God of the OT is the Devil? NOT His God…?

John 8 41-44 “The only Father we have is God himself.” 42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.  For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;  Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;  And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:  And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.  For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.  (Ephesians 2:  13-18, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Fellowship With the Father (06/13/2017); The Fullness of GOD? (05/21/2017); Human Nature, Divine Spirit? (05/18/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); Proclaiming A New Kingdom? (04/13/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); Exalted By The Father? (01/26/2017)

 

“OkieDevil”, here are some ideas that have helped many avoid spiritual confusion:  there is only one complete divine revelation.  Because a believer’s focus on the things of GOD must be broad and inclusive, it also must be strictly ordered and structured.  Mature Christian believers are called into the understanding that created beings and living creatures must receive from GOD the revelation that makes knowable and known the fullness and totality of divinity (we say, the GODhead—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).  The sacred knowledge provided to mankind through promise, prophecy, and the holy writings bring together multiple streams of truth that extend to events before the frameworks of time and space.  GOD shares a divine perspective on natural occurrences, sacred operations, and eternal purposes using thousands of events, occurring within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years.

Given Deity is immutable, incorruptible, and unchanging, many elements are fixed that display diversity (like the rose or tulips), not change; and there are continuous, incomplete unfolding (we say, progression), rather than discrete, one-time events.  Because relationships with mankind are interrupted by mortality (death, disease, dying), devices and mechanisms have been employed to establish continuity and stability that include covenants, dynasty, family, inheritance, priesthood, and sanctification.

We speak of intimate and personal relationship with GOD to acknowledge that divinity is more than an abstract, academic, and hypothetical construct.  Even so, GOD is an invisible, yet, active presence (we also say, breath, life essence, a spirit, word) who must be known and “seen” by his divine fruitage (effects, outcomes, products).  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 14:  1-2, King James Version (KJV):  1 Ye are the children of the LORD your God:  ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.  2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

(2.)  Romans 10:  2-4,  KJV:  2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.  3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

(3.)  Romans 11:  28-33, KJV:  28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes:  but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.  29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.  30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:  31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.  32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.  33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on why salvation requires more than forgiveness of sin.  Divine operations on multiple levels are required to continue and restore relationships of the Creator with created beings and living creatures.  In addition to betrayal, covenant-breaking, and transgression of the law, sinners deny GOD through violations of their own and divine purity as well as of sacred trust.  Finite acts that rely on human knowledge, logic, carnal reason and willpower can neither expose and permanently eliminate sin, nor reestablish love, respect, and the unselfishness essential for oneness without sameness.  With forgiveness there also must be a sacred use of blood to remove sin (we say, remission), to apply life essence (we say, breath, spirit, word), and to convey continuity, duration, eternal purpose, virtue and righteousness from the Son of GOD.  Answering the demands of divine law, fulfilling promise and prophecy, there must be atonement, propitiation, and a transfer of sin onto a disposable or “neutral” body.  Through Jesus Christ, divine operations have come into view that include both the embodiment of divinity and sin (we say, Incarnation) upon the cross; the depiction of mortality completed and sin destroyed along with resurrection, eternal life, judgment and the second death.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Mr” (Level 5 with 7,185 points, a member since October 04, 2010) posted the following:

 

Every soul will be (held) in pledge for its deeds.Did”God” say he had to die for our sins when all in reality he could have just forgivenUs?

Update:  Ever living and dies and ever living again, there is no such entity/being ever existed. If one is ever living no death could ever come near.God is eternal and ever living that flat out mean no interruption for even a period.

Update 2:  For a man is possible to forgive and for God that is not possible??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgN6kONT...

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:  Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness:  that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.  (Romans 3:  23-26, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017); Atonement, Repentance and More (06/06/2017); Convinced/Convicted? (05/16/2017); Proclaiming A New Kingdom? (04/13/2017); Salvation Takes A Lifetime (04/06/2017); The Remission of Sin? (06/02/2016); To Foster Godly Sorrow (03/11/2016); Believing In The Cross? (03/04/2016)

 

“Mr”, those returning to GOD through Jesus Christ are accounted as a “new creation.”  With our Creator, an apology and promise not to disobey again are not enough:  words must be armored with deeds and divine substance.  To avoid spiritual confusion it is always important to acknowledge that such elements as grace, divine law, sin, forgiveness, atonement, and remission are not physical devices or objects that appear in ordinary transactions like purchasing food at the grocery.  For salvation, operations on multiple levels must be carried out that are exchanges and interactions of spirit substance within the makeup of GOD.  Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, hope, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Sacred events must occur, rather than those that are simply abstract, carnal, intellectual, material, mechanical, secular and social.  Forgiveness that is important to continuing relationship where covenant agreements and law have been violated does not do the same work as confession, rebirth, repentance, sacrifice, and sanctification.  The language used to abbreviate and simplify talking about what are applications of exalted authority, eternal purposes, and expressions of sovereign will is often misapplied and misunderstood.  Consider again the following from the holy writings:

(1.)   Ezekiel 18:  20-24, King James Version (KJV):  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him:  in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GODand not that he should return from his ways, and live?  24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned:  in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

(2.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(3.)  2nd Corinthians 5:  17-21, KJV:  17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us:  we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.  21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  1st Peter 1:  18-23, KJV:  18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;  19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:  20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,  21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.  22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:  23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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