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Today, focus is on mathematics as a tool for describing and knowing divinity that can introduce spiritual confusion, and its use be a form of idolatry.  Properly understood, spirit substance is immeasurable.  Because of the many subtleties involved (barely visible differences; hidden shifts in meaning, quality, and value) human attainments are often thought to be manifestations of divine power.  Included are astronomy, history, medicine, science and technology.  Arithmetic and mathematics are closed number systems that only permit the assignment, quantification, and manipulation of discrete values in accordance with fixed patterns and regularities.  While divinity appears as immortal, immutable, incorruptible, and unchanging, Deity also manifests the highest authority, dominion, divine prerogative, and sovereign will that establish autonomy, independence, and sanctification.  GOD is only predictable on the basis of his own acts of revelation, proclamation, promise, and prophecy; and will always remain mystery in multiple aspects of sacred being.  The  fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Malaysia)” using the ID “ιℓσνєιѕℓαм يا رب العالمين” (Level 2 with 888 points, a member since July 04, 2017) posted the following:

 

How is the trinity explained via math?

This is Monotheism: 1 God + 0 others = 1 God.

This is the trinity:
1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Spirit = 1 God.
ie, 1+1+1=1.
Simplified 3 =1

Some people say it’s 1x1x1=1.
But that is incorrect because the father/son/holy spirit are not equal.
The son has less power and knowledge than the father, etc. Not equal.
So it would be more like 1.5x1x0.5 =1 which is mathematically not sound.

Your thoughts, Christians?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1st Corinthians 2:  9-14, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Law and Divine Process (05/28/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); Time Is Not A Deity (11/30/2015); The Correct Prescription? (11/19/2015); No Other gods? (08/14/2015); Our Need for a Son (03/04/2013); Unless You Repent (03/05/2013)

 

“ιℓσνєιѕℓαм يا رب العالمين”, using the finite human measuring tools of arithmetic and mathematics to describe divinity is inappropriate, and borders upon idolatry (attributing celestial authority and power to a man-made object or process).  GOD must be understood as the active presence who has put forth all that exists.  Included are created beings and living creatures as well as their spheres of life and the settings for their activity, duration, and conclusion as a life form.

The full sum of divine substance (i.e., the total makeup of GOD) must be understood as spirit in its character, nature, and substance.  Thus, it is irrelevant and foolish to describe divinity in terms of the measurable dimensions observed for things carnal, material, secular, and social.  We can no more accurately describe GOD using the ideas of amount, size, and weight than we may by using physical senses such as seeing, tasting, and touching with our hands to know roughness, sharpness, and smoothness.

Even so, GOD makes Deity knowable, known, and “approachable” (we say, reveals divinity) using material forms, divine operations, sacred processes, and eternal purposes.  Increasingly, Christian believers are encouraged to apprehend that GOD is a spirit who may appear and exist within events, natural and sacred law, life essence (we also say, breath, word), prophecy, promises, themselves, and throughout the holy writings.  Inseparable aspects of spirit content from the makeup of GOD may be imparted to those who are “born again” such as faith, gratitude, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Such persons also must “grow up again” and become mature as vessels of divine spirit living on the earth.

That there can be oneness without sameness among the persons of the GODhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is properly regarded by mature believers as a “sacred mystery” to be acknowledged, yet, not challenged or questioned; for such a truth is grounded on divine prerogative, imperatives of eternal purpose, sacred law, and sovereign will.  Consider the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 29:  29, King James Version (KJV):  29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:  but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 12:  3, KJV:  3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Today, focus is on the revelation of GODhead as three persons that have always existed and operated as one active presence.  The writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia)” using the ID “Jebus 4” (Level 2 with 258 points, a member since April 25, 2014) posted the following:

 

Christians was god always 3 in 1?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.  Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?  (Malachi 3:  6-7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); Exalted By The Father? (01/26/2017); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016); Bad GOD, Good GOD? (01/03/2016); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015); The Idea of Perfection? (01/20/2015); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014)

 

“Jebus 4”, GOD is immutable and unchanging, yet, may only be known by created beings and living creatures through events that occur and unfold gradually over time.  For Christian believers there is only one “revelation” of GOD, and it includes all the present and previous disclosures that mankind attempts to describe by using the finite frameworks of time and space.  Correctly understood, the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead) will never be exposed, or realized in every aspect and detail by created beings and living creatures.  Even when divinity will dwell among men upon the earth, there will be features that remain secret and unknown such as the origin of GOD, the nature and substance of righteousness, the putting forth of existence from nothing, and the unseen process that manifests as divine will. 

The holy writings declare GOD is a spirit.  The revelation of GOD continues as an aspect of infusing Creation with life essence (we say, breath, spirit, word) that also imparts awareness and self-will.  For the sake of the living, divinity has appeared in the person of Jesus Christ, however, GOD does not require Incarnation (the use of flesh and human form) to be known and recognizable to GOD (himself; themselves).  What startles and unsettles many is the idea that GOD may be as man, yet, continue as immortal and incorruptible.  Christ is the most complete and correct “image” of divinity projected from the full GODhead.  Through Christ, divinity is being made accessible, knowable, known, and “visible” through events and operations on the earth.

Mature Christian believers hold GOD willingly provides the sacred knowledge and practices (sacraments) necessary for created beings and living creatures to be in personal or intimate communication, exchange and interaction with divinity.  The living may have place as sons and daughters, the children of GOD, and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ; and must be transformed to exist as eternal companions to GOD.  Consider again the following from Scripture:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 29:  29, King James Version (KJV):  29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:  but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

(2.)  Psalms 90: 1-2, KJV:  1 LORD, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.  2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

(3.)  Isaiah 66:  1-2, KJV:  1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:  where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?  2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD:  but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Colossians 1:  12-20, KJV:  12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  18 And he is the head of the body, the church:  who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, points are shared on Incarnation, revelation, the GODhead, and worship from mankind.  Obedience to divine law, prayer, revelation and worship all pertain to directing the consciousness, concentration, and focus of human awareness and self-will for the apprehension of oneness without sameness.  The full revelation of GOD to created beings and living creatures requires responses from  divinity where Deity is active and present as a knowable and recognizable event, object, or person; and demands manifestations that are both external (we say, independent; material; objective; separate) as well as internal (we say, inward; of ones nature; subjective).  Before the finite platforms of the firmament were shaped to serve as heaven and earth, GOD existed being diffuse, and without measurable dimension or duration.  Divinity does not exist outside of the knowing and mind that are imparted and projected from GOD.  Responding to created beings and living creatures, GOD is now partly known having used forms that include image, word, and inseparable spirit substance (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, meekness, mercy, wisdom, and wrath against sin).  The complete revelation of GOD must unveil the extent of divinity within man, man within GOD as well as GOD continuing eternally as exalted, immutable, preeminent and sovereign over all.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Brian” (Level 6 with 12,874 points, a member since June 11, 2006) posted the following:

 

Trinitarians, did Jesus worship a man-god or did he worship Jehovah God?

Trinitarian worship a trinity god that is fully god and fully man.

Jesus claimed Jehovah (YWHW, YAHWEH, Yahowah] as his God.

At John 17:3 he calls Jehovah the only true God.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

At John 20:17 he tells his followers that Jehovah, the Father that the Jewish people worshiped, was his God as well.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Did he worship Jehovah, or did he worship a man-god like the Trinitarians do?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;  Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:  For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.  Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:  Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.  (Acts 17:  24-31, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Blame, Sin and Salvation? (02/13/2017); The Title of “Savior” (01/27/2017); Exalted By The Father? (01/26/2017); The Spirit and Prophecy (01/04/2017); Divine Appearances Using Form? (12/20/2016); True and Living GOD (08/03/2016); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016); Authority, Dispensation, and Unity? (08/20/2015); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015)

 

“Brian”, revelation has been unfolding in stages.  Sinners on the earth are not granted full knowledge of the things pertaining to GOD; yet, we are allowed to discern and recognize patterns (ABCDEFG…) that give us a correct sense of expectation (…XYZ is coming).  Increasingly, mature Christian believers holding to sacred knowledge from the imparted, indwelling Spirit accept that the operations of the Creator to become knowable, known, and “visible” to all created beings and living creatures have been “additive” (i.e., introducing more and new information to complement, refresh, and reinforce what was provided as the original, intended “information content” of the living).  Unlike the angels (who are neither all-knowing nor immortal), mankind is to acquire knowledge through gradual change, experience, growth, and learning.

The processes of fellowship with GOD were put into place to provide for continuous discovery of the divine character, makeup and substance, therefore, revelation is interactive, promissory, and prophetic.  Within the joined, eternal fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead), there is no need for an ongoing process of revelation, nor should we expect the elements of ceremony, obedience, ritual, submission to authority, and “worship” to appear.  The longing for a memorable and recognizable appearance of GOD who is “spirit” (we say, breath, life essence, word) has been addressed through faith, divine law, his audible word, and all that appears within the spheres of life (e.g., beings, hearts, minds, objects).  Even so, those who exist having carnal and material form (we say, the flesh), depend upon social interaction, organize information using the frameworks of time and space, rely upon appetite, emotion and sense experience (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), and are vulnerable to the operations of sin that may dominate awareness and self-will in the living.  Mankind, therefore, requires other manifestations of fundamental truth.

Man is to accept that divinity has appeared on the earth using flesh, and having person as Jesus Christ, an offspring of both Adam and GOD.  Beyond a simple revelation of Deity, multiple eternal purposes and operations of the Holy Spirit have been addressed and fulfilled including atonement for sin; fulfillment of proclamation, promise, and prophecy; both judgment and salvation of sinners; rebirth; sanctification; the elimination of death and sin; the perfection of existence as well as the transformation of mankind to serve as immortal, incorruptible companions of divinity.  In no way should the sacred practices to fulfill the divine will be regarded by believers as opposing the continued existence of divine law (iniquity, transgression, and sin), or violating the sacred law.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, since the day of Adam and Eve, revelation from GOD has been by establishing a relationship of full disclosure, intimacy, personal sharing, reconciliation, respect, and self-exposure.  Ultimately, mankind is to exist with GOD upon an earth that will include no night and day marked by the sun and moon, no oceans, and no physical structures for gathering to worship GOD.  Death and mortality as we now know them will not exist.  The GODhead will be the only necessary light.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, points are shared on describing the fullness of GOD (we say, the GODhead or Trinity—Father, Son and Holy Spirit).  For many, the language to speak of divinity emerges from our common experiences as created beings having material form.  Using an earthy or carnal focus as ones starting platform, three “persons” will mean six hands, 30 fingers, 30 toes, three belly-buttons.  Human consciousness will stubbornly insist upon maintaining the frameworks of time, space, and  individuality.  Yet, the only correct foundation for sacred knowledge must come forth from Deity through exchanges, interactions and operations of sacred spirit substance that also are part of mankind’s makeup.  “Person” must be understood as an appearance of multiple attributes and qualities such as active presence, existence, and life.  “Divine mind” should not be taken as finite intellect, logic, or linear and discursive thought.  Evil (i.e., unintended change; instability) as an aspect of human makeup, allows shifts in meaning and value that, in effect, contend against divine truth.  The Creator is immutable and unchanging, yet, is to be understood through diversity and sacred events including growth, incarnation, rebirth, and regeneration.  Readers are encouraged to recall the following Bible verses, and the presentation below:

Colossians 2:  8-10, King James Version (KJV):  8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.  10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 1:  18-22, KJV:  18 And he is the head of the body, the church:  who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled  22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Colossians 1:  12-17, KJV:  12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Daniel” (Level 1 with 242 points, a member since October 21, 2015) posted the following:

 

If three persons make up the Trinity, does that mean God as three minds as well, otherwise it makes no sense?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.  (1st Corinthians 2:  9-16, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A GOD Without Form? (12/27/2015); Authority, Dispensation, and Unity? (08/20/2015); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015); More About the Trinity? (03/30/2015); GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014)

 

“Daniel”, here are some points I hope will help.  Even mature Christian believers encounter two major obstacles when describing the fullness of divinity:  (1) GOD is a spirit (we say, breath, life essence, word) and may not be directly known using only ones finite senses such as hearing, seeing, tasting, touching.  To say Created beings and living creatures are “made in GOD’s image” asserts that the living may display aspects of the divine makeup, yet, are neither upon the same level, nor identical to Deity in  character, form, and nature.  Also, (2) knowledge of GOD requires knowledge of “spirit”, it’s makeup and process as well as its appearance and effects.  Your namesake in the Bible, the prophet Daniel, was given answers from GOD through visitation by angels.  However, the full meaning and weight of the divine response was too great for Daniel, for it required he assume a totally different posture—a divine point of view, so to speak.  Consider the following framed in the language of Scripture:

(1.)  Isaiah 55:  6-11, King James Version (KJV):  6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:  7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts:  and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.  8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.  9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.  10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:  11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:  it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

(2.)  Genesis 8:  20-22, KJV:  20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.  21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.  22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

(3.)  Romans 1:  18-22, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

There is far more to be said, understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  John 4:  23-24, KJV:  23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth:  for the Father seeketh such to worship him.  24 God is a Spirit:  and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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Differences among the three persons that describe the full GODhead come into view, today.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “louis” (Level 2 with 854 points, a member since September 09, 2011) posted the following:

 

Can you explain 1 Corinthians 15:24, 28?

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
1 Corinthians 15:24

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
1 Corinthians 15: 28

Why does Jesus have to had over the authority to the Father, as they are one?
Why does he have to subject himself to God in the end, as he is God?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:   and these three are one.  (1st John 5:  5-7, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Oneness, Not Equality or Rank? (07/16/2015); Christ Brought A New Nature? (07/15/2015); To Express the Fullness of GOD? (07/09/2015); Power Against Sin? (04/12/2015); A Kingdom Now and One To Come? (09/05/2014); Comfort? (09/06/2014); Hierarchy (11/14/2013); The Benefit of Law? (11/15/2013); Utterance is Spirit (09/08/2013); A Start for the Idea of GOD? (09/09/2013)

 

“louis”, there are many things that have to be fitted together, here.  For thousands of years, now, Christian believers have wrestled with the many concepts that describe Deity by using the idea of GODhead.  Mankind has been emanated and put forth by divinity, yet, existence and the makeup and substance of divinity are very different from that for created beings and living creatures.  The living are to rely upon the awareness of divinity that is being imparted from GOD as revelation.   With this in view, Deity may be described as the combination of immortal, incorruptible, and inseparable aspects of spirit content (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin).  Also, Deity may be understood and described by multiple appearances as active presence, and expressions of eternal purpose (e.g., atonement, forgiveness, incarnation, rebirth, salvation, sanctification).

While GOD is a spirit—and believers must worship (acknowledge, praise, reverence) him in spirit and in truth—GOD also is the origin, source of, and exalted sovereign who governs and rules over all that pertains to continued existence for whatever is carnal, material, natural, and spiritual.  (Instead of human attitudes, behavior and conduct, focus for GOD is upon life experience (e.g., birth, death, reproduction, joining of spirits through sexual activity), divine operations, and sacred process.)  As exalted and sovereign with authority and power over all, GOD is free to be in relationship using agents, diversity, flesh, form, personness, sacred events (we say, miracles), spokespersons (we say, messengers, prophets), immaterial things, things natural as well as things supernatural.

Christian believers accept that GOD has appeared and operated in the creation of heaven, earth, the holy angels, and the many other forms of life that appear such as animals, birds, insects, and the sacred beasts of heaven.  We therefore speak of the Holy Spirit as an irreplaceable aspect of the GODhead.  In addition to the Holy Spirit (known as the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, and the Spirit of Truth), followers of Jesus Christ are to acknowledge the Savior as “the Word,” “the Everlasting Father,” and a peculiar appearance of “the Almighty Father” upon the earth to resolve conflicts and disputes through judgment (application of divine law).

There is far more that could be said, and that must be correctly understood and spiritually taken into account.  (For example, with the conclusion of judgment signaled by the Lake of Fire and the second death, various dispensations established to buttress sacred law, maintain cosmic order as well as to address the specific attributes and needs of the created will be completed, ended, removed and replaced.  Included are decay, mortality, rebuke, redemption, separation from GOD, and shame.  What remains will be recognized as accord, peace and unity.  The actions and formal proclamation that the former things are finished will appear as “the handing over of the kingdom.”  In fact, it will be the celebration of Sabbath, and Creation’s return to Divine Rest.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Points are shared, today, on the character, nature and qualities whereby divinity is acknowledged within relationship. To the carnal mind, it is correct to say that every real dog must have the single essence, quality or substance shared by every canine that actually makes it a dog. While we can give it no precise description, we generally agree our pooches all must have dog-ness; cats must have cat-ness; humans must have humanity. Using that mindset, divinity, godliness and spirit can not reside within those living upon the earth. Where Christians say that GOD appears or manifests displaying recognizable person, believers are not ascribing human characteristics and qualities to Deity such as aloofness, antagonism, competitiveness, dispassion, ego, empathy, hostility, individuality, and self-centeredness. Divinity exists having person by operating within covenants and other relationships that generate the broad range of life experience. Included are acceptance, approval, comfort, communication, disapproval, discovery, exchange, forgiveness, guidance, interaction, rule, trust, and warning. One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (standard information not available) attacked posting the following:

Since when is all of God “persons”. God the Father and the Holy Ghost were never “persons”, so why do you say God is 3 “persons” in one?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.  (Hebrews 1:  1-4, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divine Purpose? (01/08/2015); GOD and The Framework of Time (09/20/2014); About Knowing the Name of GOD (09/21/2014); Aspects of Divinity? (06/15/2014); Son of Adam and of GOD? (06/16/2014); Let Us Make Mankind? (06/10/2014); GOD and Adultery? (06/11/2014); Personality? (04/27/2014); Anointed? (04/28/2014)

“Anonymous”, apparently the GOD you know and serve operates only as an abstraction, a mechanism, and does not respond to you in a revelation that is interactive and organic.  Here are a few points and insights shared among Christian believers:

(1.)  What created beings and living creatures may call person and personness when speaking of Deity are the multiple personal attributes, regular patterns and qualities describing divine action through continuous contact and intercourse that has direction, focus, inclusion, and purpose upon a cosmic scale.

(2.)  GOD is a spirit, who must exist within the consciousness of the living as a measure of defining substance, rather than merely as emotion, intellect, logic, mathematics, philosophy, secular history, or science.  Intimate relationship with Deity is developed and maintained through utterance that includes admonition, confession, praise, prayer, proclamation, promise, and prophecy.

(3.)  Where GOD resides within the living there are continual exchange and interaction of inseparable divine content such as faith, holiness, hope, joy, love, purity, righteousness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Only thereby may GOD be  worshiped in spirit and in truth.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  Divinity is known through such features and processes as birth, death, deliverance, doctrine, impressions, incarnation, judgment, law, precepts, principles, rebirth, sanctification, and sovereignty.  In the same way the physical characteristics of an animal are not enough to establish its identity as a dog (e.g., they bark, have four legs, a tail, two ears—like seals, like cats, may have missing limbs), so that a coarse standard is applied saying there must be a quality of “dog-ness”, apart from the provisions through Jesus Christ, mankind uses rough standards to speak of godliness, holiness, perfection, and spirituality.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

The spirit nature and material substance of GODhead are considered again, today.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “God The Grandpa” (Level 2 with 842 points, a member since May 26, 2014) labeled himself an atheist and attacked using the following:

 

Christians please explain the Trinity to me? i Don’t get it. (read the body of the question please)?

i’m an Atheist, but i was educated jewish.
i want to at least understand what i don’t believe in
Judaism has the 10 commandants.
the first one says “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” that why Jews can’t believe in a human being being a God.

Christians claim to follow the same 10 commandments, but they also believe Jesus, a human being is a God.
and you made up the trinity to explain how they can be one and the same. i just don’t get how it works.

i know one of the basic tenants of Christianity that Jesus is both divine and human. (I learned that in a course on medieval Iconography) that Jesus always existed, even before he was born.
what i don’t understand how they both one and the same, God and his Son. how is not just polytheism?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  (Romans 1:  16-25, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Divine Purpose? (01/08/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Aspects of Divinity? (06/15/2014); Son of Adam and of GOD? (06/16/2014); Focus of Believers? (06/17/2014); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014); Utterance is Spirit (09/08/2013); A Start for the Idea of GOD? (09/09/2013); GOD the X? (07/19/2013)

 

“God The Grandpa”, your question expresses the serious concern among many Jews, Islamic and Christian believers.  Accept no answer to your question that you can not recognize as coming from GOD and the true revelation of divinity in the earth through divine action that has continuing and enduring effect, and that demonstrates unchanging sacred purpose.  There can be no simple, one-line answer to clarify or dismiss the complexity of sacred knowledge and spiritual operations performed by an exalted deity who has made divinity known by using thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  A focus upon divine law shared in a single covenant (that of Moses) is not adequate, for there are many covenants to be accounted for including that of Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, and Jesus Christ.

Here are a few points that may help release you from the spiritual confusion and sin that now have you bound:

(1.)  The holy writings collected and presented as the Bible accurately describe the origins of the mechanical and natural processes for the existence, reproduction and continuation of material and spiritual created beings and living creatures, their spheres of life (e.g., earth, heaven, the sea, the universe), and the terms for their duration (mortality or immortality).  Presently, only GOD is immortal; and the revelation of GOD uses the frameworks of space and time unfolding through discrete events for the benefit of finite beings.  Any description of GOD not supplied by divinity (such as that given Eve by the serpent) is to be regarded as a lie (we say, blasphemy).

(2.)  Every believer must accept that GOD is a spirit who has emanated material objects endowing some with life (e.g., angels, animals, humans, sacred beasts in heaven, the moon, the planets, the stars).  The substance and makeup of Deity is completely spirit in terms of how it functions and what it may accomplish.  Thus, such ideas as a life time, possibility and power must be spoken of with meanings and values very different from those for considering carnal beings (those having flesh and bone).

(3.)  Discernment (ability to use ones own spirit content to recognize and respond to spirit content within events, messages, other persons, etc.) permits an understanding of divinity that comes by what we would call “synchronization”, whereby the living are in accord, concurrence, harmony, and oneness with divinity.  GOD is the only source of existence, life, and divine spirit.  By appearing incarnate (assuming flesh and blood) as Jesus Christ, new provisions are in place possible only through divinity whereby the animal and human nature of mankind are to be transformed.  Aspects of the divine nature now are to appear and become perfected (we say mature, ripe) upon the earth.  Included are faith, forbearance, gratitude, holiness, humility, longsuffering, love, meekness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

(4.)  Sin and wickedness are not created by GOD, and result from awareness and self-will becoming dominated by corruption (we say, arbitrary, unnecessary, unwanted change; evil); decay; defilement; failure to correctly perform necessary self-correction, self-maintenance, and self-nourishment; loss of divine content; and irreversible rot.

(5.)  Christian believers trust that the fullness of Deity (we say, the GODhead) has appeared through the distinct operations to accomplish multiple goals that transcend the abilities of all finite creatures.  Included are creation from void, birth, death, judgment, eternal condemnation, atonement, forgiveness, peace, rebirth, repentance from sin, resurrection, sanctification, and the final elimination of sin.  Such tools as emotions, intellect, logic, mathematics, philosophy and science accomplish nothing until used by the living who have guidance from GOD.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  For example, (6.)  Many errors have resulted from the “good intentions” of men claiming authority and duty to erase idolatry, punish false worship, and maintain the purity of belief among mankind.  Yet, these have repeatedly shown themselves to be caught in the throes of pride and self-promotion.  They are found to be in no direct, intimate or personal relationship with divinity continued through communion and divine promise with praise, prayer, prophecy, and living sacrifice (“the dead praise not God”).  The false agents from God rarely acknowledge the intangible aspects of divinity such as balance, completeness, immutability, perfection, person, presence, and unity without sameness.  Apart from such revealed truth as the Spirit at Creation, Christ at the Cross, and the body of prophecy proclaiming the Father, there is no clear or correct grasp upon the actual essence who is GOD, who is not made of any material substance having dimension that can be measured such as a cloud, fog, mist, or smoke.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.  Love has spoken.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC