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(09/19/2017) Sons of GOD Suffer?

Posted: September 19, 2017 in Uncategorized

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Today, focus is on divine solutions for sin, and suffering by the sons of GOD.  The children of GOD all serve in the revelation of divinity displaying the image of GOD.  As sons and daughters of the Father in heaven and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ, all will serve as apostles, intercessors, covenant partners, prophets, or spokespersons on the earth.  By passing through the human condition, and meeting the challenges of obedience and suffering, all become incorruptible and “ripe for harvest” (mature).  Only by sacred operations and divine processes do the sons and daughters of GOD become fit to be taken up from the earth at the coming of the Lord (we say, his appearing, the Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  One of the fighters as “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why did god need to make his son suffer?

If god is all knowing and is everything. Then why would he need to kill his son god is apparently all knowing. There is no strong argument of why he wouldlogicaly need to kill and troture his own son. What evil would do this.

Pathetic

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.  And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:  (For until the law sin was in the world:  but sin is not imputed when there is no law.  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.  But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift:  for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.  For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.  (Romans 5:  10-21, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Knowing the Invisible GOD (09/17/2017); Jesus And The Torah? (09/06/2017); “Occupy Till I Come” (08/30/2017); Belief, Faith, and Proof (03/02/2014); Miracles and Visitations? (03/03/2014); Why Was A Son Sent? (11/10/2013); Promise of A Spirit? (11/11/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, many mature Christian believers are willing to acknowledge that you are trying to do a good thing, and that you mean well by your condemnation of GOD.  However, by exalting yourself to take over the position held by divinity as High Priest and Judge, it is strongly suggested that you are not yet aware how the sacred processes and eternal purposes of GOD require inseparable aspects of Spirit.  Included are authority, faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, power, sovereign will, and wrath against sin.  GOD, who is spirit, responds to conditions, divine law, and standards unseen by men and angels when  dealing with flesh and blood.  You offer no solution to eliminate sin that opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the Creation that relies upon sacred law to generate divine order.  To sinners, the operations of sin are comfortable, natural, and normal; sin is not contrary to their own character, makeup, and nature.  Divine law and the holy writings have been provided that depict and make visible the despair and devastation spread by sin; they can expose and show the life process under the direction of sin, however, they can not condemn sin and establish a new creation that overcomes sin.  The presentation of men and women in ongoing relationships with GOD have permitted many points of sacred truth that opposes sin to be clarified, such as the daily sacrifices in the Tabernacle under Moses and the offering of Isaac by Abraham.  Even so, it has been required that there be the embodiment of divinity in human form (we say, Incarnation).  This permits both the presentation of atonement for sin through the blood of Jesus Christ, and the final destruction of sin by the Savior’s dying on the cross.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Galatians 1:  3-5, King James Version (KJV):  3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,  4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:  5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

(2.)  Romans 5:  6-9, KJV:  6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.  7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die:  yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.  8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.  9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

(3.)  1st Peter 3:  17-18, KJV:  17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.  18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 8:  3-9, KJV:  3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, the topic is knowing and worshiping an invisible GOD.  On the one hand, divinity is making himself known to all created beings and living creatures.  On the other hand, personal relationship with the Creator requires his imparted Spirit, and is only possible for those entrusted with the oracles of GOD through covenant, priesthood, rebirth, and diverse forms of stewardship (e.g., elders, judges, kings, prophets, sabbath-keepers).  Believers are commanded and given divine instruction they must share with one another to know correctly and completely the things they must do and regularly practice (i. e., ceremonies, liturgy, mysteries, ordinances, rituals, sacraments, sacrifices) as acceptable worship.  The most necessary tools for relating to divinity are commitment, discernment (ability to recognize the presence of spirit content within events, oneself, other persons, prophecy, etc.) and faith, rather than eyesight.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “lone wolf” (Level 1 with 53 points, a member since September 01, 2017) posted the following:

How can we worship a god we can’t see and don’t know?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;  While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen:  for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.  (2nd Corinthians 4:  17-18, King James Version, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divinity Appears Using Form (07/26/2017); Becoming A Full Person (02/12/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); How Christ Is Known? (04/24/2017); Genuine Spiritual Discernment? (03/27/2017); How To Know GOD? (12/12/2016); The GOD Named “Jealous” (09/15/2016)

“lone wolf”, more important than “seeing” the invisible GOD are “knowing by faith,” “trusting” and “obeying” his word appearing as law and promises.  Thus, the “image of GOD” is a matter of the divine character and makeup more than what he “looks like.”  Divinity is operating on the earth in multiple ways that allow mankind to “know” and acknowledge its Creator on the basis of sacred practices and standards, natural laws, the process of life, eternal purpose, and unchanging truth.  Many different divine processes are directed to establishing consciousness of spirit (e.g., atonement, birth, death, judgment, repentance, resurrection) and the sacred substance we should call “the divine will,” and are not directed primarily to our intellect, logic, secular knowledge, and physical senses (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching).  As Christian believers, sinners embrace what Deity is revealing to make himself knowable, known, and approachable.  The living all are to realize that GOD is a separate and active presence who has put forth existence, diverse forms of life, and the spheres for their duration.  Communication, exchange and interaction with GOD is possible through the deposits and endowments of divine spirit that were bestowed during Creation, and may now be received by those “born again.”  Inseparable aspects from the makeup of GOD may be imparted as life essence (we also say, breath, spirit, word).  Included are faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Those who become vessels of divine spirit are to operate among us as apostles, the children of GOD, prophets, and spokespersons sent from divinity, who demonstrate, proclaim and share his imparted, transforming spirit as sacred truth.  Consider again the following that uses the language of the Bible:

(1.)  Psalms 19:  1-6, King James Version (KJV):  1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.  2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.  3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.  4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,  5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.  6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it:  and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

(2.)  Genesis 1:  25-27, KJV:  25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind:  and God saw that it was good.  26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:  and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.  27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

(3.)  Romans 1:  18-20, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

(4.)  Hebrews 11:  6, KJV:  6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:  for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.) Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today reply is on GOD allowing the wicked to have authority over saved persons.  Properly understood, the process of salvation is one wherein divinity enables a sinner to remain free from the wicked forever.  Sin has not been eliminated from the earth, yet, sinners can be permanently changed through rebirth, and equipped to recognize, reject, and resist sin.  Believers gradually achieve maturity and the full spiritual blessing of eternal life after completing mortality, enduring hardship and suffering, and overcoming challenges, persecution, and loss.  One of the fighters using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

What when God allow the wicked act over a saved person?

 

Without reaction.I though that saved persons would have the power to make the wicked go away.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;  Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.  Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility:  for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.  Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:  Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.  (1st Peter 5:  2-7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Sacred Baptism, Divine Resurrection? (09/14/2017); Fear, Revelation and Desire (05/22/2017); Herein Is True Love (10/21/2016); A Note On Spirit Warfare (01/06/2016); Forgiving Enemies a Condition for Salvation? (05/11/2015); Struggling? (05/11/2013); Through Much Tribulation (05/12/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, the process of receiving salvation among  Christian believers is one of discovering sacred knowledge and things from GOD, experiencing gradual growth, maintaining focus on the character and makeup of Jesus, and putting to work all that you learn.  The devil, sinners, and the wickedness found in the world will go away for a while, and seek to come back when a believer seems confused, double-minded, and open to attack.  For this reason, believers are taught to think of their new life in Jesus Christ as a “fight of faith” and spiritual warfare where we must stay alert, where we may become injured or wounded, and where we even may lose our natural lives.

Believers must rely on the authority and power of divinity to drive away and limit the influence of evil, yet, must cooperate with GOD by their own commitment to Christ in what they say and do, in their discipline and self-government, and in their not giving up (we say, perseverance).  As sinners who become “born again,” developing believers also must “grow up again” and become ripe (mature) for harvesting by the Lord at his coming (we say, Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  In addition to inseparable aspects of spirit content from the makeup of GOD (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, wrath against sin), the mature believer will display such features as balance, completeness, humility, divine purpose, sobriety, and stability.

Given GOD is on their side, Christian believers can not lose.  Even so, in the same way every soldier in an army might not have the same duty, knowledge, rank, skills, and weapons as others who are on the same side as he, there is great diversity among Christians.  We do not all have the same knowledge of the holy writings, the same level of spiritual maturity, and the same personal strength.  Believers, therefore, come together as a church and community of faith to share comfort, communication, encouragement and support.  Believers are to provide one another whatever the other may lack.  Thus, in our battles against lying, lust, sin, and ungodliness, it is right that we turn to each other as the Lord’s people for help, protection, and victory.  Believers are not indestructible, yet, having the promises of GOD, we become fearless and unbeatable.  Consider the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)   James 4:  4-10, King James Version (KJV):  4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.  5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?  6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.  7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.  8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.  9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep:  let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.  10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

(2.)  1st Peter 5:  8-9, KJV:  8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:  9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

(3.)  Revelation 2:  10, KJV:  10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days:  be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  1st Timothy 6:  12-16, KJV:  12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.  13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;  14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:  15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;  16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see:  to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, acquiring sacred knowledge, Incarnation (i.e., the conception of Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit are topics.  For things residing within the heart and mind (we say, consciousness) of GOD the Father to have discrete or separate existence as created beings, living creatures, physical objects, and temporal process they must be given dimension, form and presence through the Son who is Word as well as duration, permanence, spirit substance (we say, breath, life) and visibility through the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit was the agent of Creation who acted to fulfill the shared eternal purposes that put forth the heaven, the earth, and the material universe.  His ability to manifest divinity is unlimited, yet, his agenda and objectives always appear as from the Father, the Son, or the two in accord.  The many important sacred events and works by the Holy Spirit include establishing the firmament with multiple spheres for life, the birth of Jesus Christ, that Christ should embody sin in the flesh and die upon the cross, the Savior’s resurrection, the birth of the church on the day of Pentecost, rebirth and repentance by sinners, and the ongoing provision of spiritual gifts as a primary witness to the ministry of Christ.  The problem for mankind with exploring the unknown, and seeking sacred knowledge beyond what GOD already has revealed, is that human research and studies almost always also entail concentrating upon assumptions that are in error, embracing and endorsing the forbidden, exaggerating pride, and practicing presumption (attempting to exercise godly authority without divine license and permission).  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Breakthrough” (Level 6 with 14,987 points, a member since June 29, 2013) posted the following:

 

If God can impregnate a virgin does this mean that the Holy Spirit can do absolutely anything?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:  and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:  and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:  and these three are one.  And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood:  and these three agree in one.  If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:  for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.  He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:  he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.  (1st John 5:  1-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Need for Incarnation? (09/29/2016); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016); Spirit, Spirit Beings, Spirit Persons? (10/13/2015); About Praying to Mary (08/21/2015); The Three Wise Men? (08/05/2015); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015);  Evidence of the Unseen Spirit? (04/09/2013); A Guide to Salvation? (04/10/2013)

 

“Breakthrough”, the clearest, most useful information available to mankind regarding the Holy Spirit has been collected and preserved over the course of thousands of years, and is now available as the Bible.  The holy writings do not encourage asking questions about GOD, preexistence, and the many events before the creation of mankind, because they foster emotions and thinking that are disconnected, are inconsistent with revelation, and that promote spiritual confusion.  Even so, some things do appear from GOD that are intended as necessary sacred knowledge.  Mature Christian believers trust that the Holy Spirit exists within the oneness without sameness that is full divinity (we say, the GODhead).  The Holy Spirit (also called the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) shares the same character, nature, makeup, and eternal purpose that is emanated from the Father and manifest as the Son.  Included are inseparable aspects of Deity such as authority, existence, holiness, life, personness, power, presence, and sovereign will.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 29:  29, King James Version (KJV):  29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God:  but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

(2.)  Genesis 1:  1-3, King James Version (KJV):  1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  3 And God said, Let there be light:  and there was light.

(3.)  Romans 1:  16-22, KJV:  16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended, here.  For example, (4.)  Colossians 2:  6-10, KJV:  6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:  7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.  8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.  10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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(12/20/2015) Why Was Lot Spared?

Posted: December 20, 2015 in Uncategorized

Points are shared, today, on Abraham, Lot, redemption, and salvation.  In the same way GOD revealed himself to Moses as a deity who pursues judgment against sin, GOD made himself known to Abraham as a “god of judgment.”  More than this, however, GOD demonstrated that deliverance, mercy, and salvation are also aspects of sacred process on behalf of created beings and living creatures.  Consider again the following verses from the Bible, and the presentation below:  Isaiah 1:  18, King James Version (KJV):  18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:  though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.  Also, Genesis 18:  24-26, KJV:  24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city:  wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?  25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked:  and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee:  Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?  26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.  Hosea 6:  5-7, KJV:  5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth:  and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.  6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.  7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant:  there have they dealt treacherously against me.  Hebrews 2:  1-4, KJV:  1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.  2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;  3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;  4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Phil A” (Level 6 with 20,487 points, a member since April 16, 2008) posted the following:

 

Why were Lot and his family * spared by God or the Angels before the destruction of Sodom ?

Just wondering ?

ps, * Well his wife would have been spared if she had not have looked around , and turned into a pillar of salt.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And Lot also, which went with Abram, had flocks, and herds, and tents.  And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together:  for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together.  And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram’s cattle and the herdmen of Lot’s cattle:  and the Canaanite and the Perizzite dwelled then in the land.  And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.  Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me:  if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left.  And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the plain of Jordan, that it was well watered every where, before the LORD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, even as the garden of the LORD, like the land of Egypt, as thou comest unto Zoar.  Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east:  and they separated themselves the one from the other.  Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan, and Lot dwelled in the cities of the plain, and pitched his tent toward Sodom.  But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.  (Genesis 13:  5-13, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Judgment Against Sodom? (04/10/2015); Remembering Lot’s Wife? (11/04/2014); Sinless Until Advent? (11/05/2014); Lot and the Angels (05/04/2014); Expulsion from Eden (05/05/2014)

 

“Phil A”, here are some points that further explain the lessons on salvation provided through the account of Lot visited by angels:

(1.)  The Covenant of Circumcision.  Lot had been a member of Abraham’s household; and worshiped with the one who is called “the Friend of GOD.”  The household for nomads included spouse, children, relatives, and servants; and could number in the hundreds or thousands.  They would travel together like a compete village, and even a city.  When lot and his household of perhaps 2-3000 separated from that of Abraham, a longstanding relationship with divinity was already in place.

(2.)  The Intercession of Abraham.  When GOD revealed the divine intent to investigate, and bring judgment against the sins of Sodom and other cities in that same region, Abraham made an appeal that exception be made for the righteous who might be there.  GOD agreed that, for the sake of ten righteous persons, all the cities would be shown divine mercy.

(3.)  Redemption.  When Lot welcomed the angelic ambassadors, his character and nature became manifest as being from GOD through hospitality.  His authority as head of his family and household allowed Lot to declare a  commitment to lay down his life—even also the lives and virginity of his daughters—to protect at all cost those who had come into his home.  Therein, Lot is to be seen as offering himself as a sacrifice that would otherwise be destroyed in fire upon an holy altar.  A redemption price is paid that allows the offering to be spared, and to serve  instead as a living sacrifice.

There are many other ideas that should be carefully considered, correctly understood, and made a part of ones own spiritual development, here.  (For example, (4.)  The Sin of Sodom.  Many mistakenly think the sins were homosexuality and rape.  Lot showed himself contrary to the people of Sodom.  See more at 2nd Peter 2:  6-9, King James Version (KJV):  6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;  7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:  8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)  9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:  Also, Ezekiel 16:  48-50, KJV:  48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.  49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.  50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me:  therefore I took them away as I saw good.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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Vrijheid, afgoderij, de viering van Kerstmis, en het gebruik van de kerstboom zijn onderwerpen, vandaag.  Culturele arrogantie, etniciteit, en racisme zijn ijdel, en niet de bijgebracht, inwonende Geest van GOD niet voeden.  Voor volwassen christenen de geboorte van Jezus wordt erkend als de vervulling van de profetie, goddelijke verkondiging, en heilige belofte, dus zelfs Afro-Amerikaanse gelovigen tellen zich vrij om te begrijpen principes voor het leven dat van God te vieren.  Echter, voor het ontwikkelen van de gelovigen-die onlangs opnieuw geboren, of voortzetting van hun geleidelijke groei als in heilige relatie-de viering van Kerstmis, slechts als een gezin op maat, de expressie van de populaire cultuur, of slechts een langdurige sociale traditie verschijnen.  Zelfs zo, dergelijke functies als Santa Claus, fantasie, het geven van geschenken, en volksverhalen te amuseren en te entertainen niet geven een antichrist geest net als afvalligheid, ketterij en laster.  Amerikanen zijn die met wortel als Black zonen van Canada, Haïti, Jamaica, Duitsland en zelfs Groot-Brittannië.  Christelijke eredienst onder die van de Zwarte afdaling in Amerika omvat Afrikaanse Methodist Episcopal gelovigen, baptisten, katholieken, pentecostals en Zevende Dag Adventisten.  Onder de ware discipelen van Jezus, zijn er veel apparaten, ervaringen en lessen die worden gebruikt voor het reinigen, de groei, heling en perfectie te bevorderen.  Beschouw opnieuw de heilige geschriften, en de onderstaande punten gedeeld:  Psalmen 97:  9-12, Het Boek (HTB):  9 U, HERE, bent immers de Allerhoogste God. Boven U is er niemand op aarde. U troont hoog boven alle ‘goden’.  10 Als u van de HERE houdt, haat dan elke vorm van kwaad. God beschermt Zijn kinderen en behoedt hen voor elke goddeloze invloed.  11 Gods volgelingen mogen in het licht leven en Hij geeft vreugde in het hart van allen die Hem oprecht volgen.  12 Als u bij God hoort, verheug u dan in Hem. Wees blij en prijs Zijn grote en heilige naam.  Ook 1 Corinthiërs 13:  8-12, HTB:  8 Aan de liefde komt nooit een einde. Het spreken namens God zal eens niet meer nodig zijn; het spreken in vreemde talen zal ophouden; kennis zal dan niet meer worden gevraagd.  9 Want wat wij weten, is onvolledig; en wat wij namens God zeggen, is gebrekkig.  10 Maar wanneer het blijvende en volmaakte komt, is dat het einde van het gebrekkige en onvolmaakte.  11 Toen ik een kind was, sprak ik als een kind, dacht ik als een kind en redeneerde ik als een kind. Maar nu ik volwassen ben, heb ik het kinderlijke voorgoed achter mij gelaten.  12 Nu hebben wij nog geen heldere kijk op Christus, maar later zullen wij oog in oog met Hem staan. Ik ken Hem nu nog niet volkomen, maar dan zal ik Hem volledig kennen, zoals Hij mij door en door kent.  De vechter op “Yahoo! Antwoorden yahoosucks “” die de ID maakt gebruik van “(niveau 1 met 18 punten, lid sinds 26 augustus 2015) postte het volgende:

 

Waarom doet Black America vieren Kerstmis als de bijbel Jeremia 10: 1-5 vertelt duidelijk de Israëlieten niet om?

Ik begrijp de witte Edomieten breken van wetten van GOD, maar de zwarten die de Israëlitische stam van Juda moeten wakker worden

Update:  Om alle domme Edomieten, herinner je je het nummer “zilver en goud” lied tijdens de kerst?

 

de gouden pijl:  3-5 De priester Ezra haalde de boekrol, waarin de wet van Mozes was opgeschreven. Hij ging staan op een houten verhoging die speciaal voor deze gelegenheid was gemaakt. Zo kon iedereen hem zien, terwijl hij las. Hij stond aan het begin van het plein voor de Waterpoort en las voor van zonsopgang tot in de namiddag. Ieder die oud genoeg was om het te begrijpen, luisterde aandachtig. Rechts van hem stonden Mattithja, Sema, Anaja, Uria, Hilkia en Maäseja. Links van hem Pedaja, Misaël, Malk!a, Hasum, Hasbaddana, Zacharia en Mesullam.  6 Toen de mensen zagen dat Ezra de boekrol opende, stond iedereen op.  7 Ezra loofde de HERE, de grote God en het hele volk zei “Amen!” en hief de handen omhoog. Toen knielden zij en aanbaden de HERE met het gezicht naar de grond gekeerd.  8-9 Tijdens het voorlezen door Ezra liepen Jesua, Bani, Serebja, Jamin, Akkub, Sabbethai, Hod!a, Maäseja, Kelita, Azarja, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaja en de Levieten langs de mensen om hun de betekenis van het gelezene uit te leggen, zodat de mensen het konden begrijpen.  10 Alle aanwezigen barstten in tranen uit bij het horen van de geboden uit de wet. Maar Ezra (de priester en geestelijk leider) en ik als gouverneur en de Levieten die de uitleg gaven, zeiden tegen hen: “Huil niet op een dag als vandaag! Want vandaag is het een heilige dag voor de HERE, uw God. Het is een feestdag, waarbij een feestmaal hoort!  11 Stuur een deel van uw maaltijd naar de arme mensen, want de vreugde die de HERE geeft, zal uw kracht zijn! Wees dus niet verdrietig.”  12 Ook de Levieten kalmeerden het volk door te zeggen:  “Inderdaad, u moet niet huilen. Dit is een heilige dag waarop u blij moet zijn en niet bedroefd!”  (Nehemia 8:  5-12, HTB)

 

DE DUBBELE DAGGER:  Amerikaanse cultuur en recht? (2015/07/13); De Amerikaanse Verbond? (2015/03/03); The Christmas Spirit? (2014/12/23); Vrede De Gift van Kerstmis? (2014/12/24); Overtuigingen, Douane en racisme? (2014/09/24); Zijn vakantie Bad? (2013/11/16); Het ontkennen van GOD door het eten van garnalen? (2013/11/17)

 

“yahoosucks”, Zwarte Amerikanen zijn nu het voorrecht om in verbond met het goddelijke door middel van het Nieuwe Testament in het bloed van Jezus Christus opgericht.  Terwijl velen instemmen met een erfgoed als joden en integratie binnen de geestelijke (niet nationaal) Israel, weinig vordering plaats als “Israëlieten”.  Afro-Amerikanen zijn altijd een divers aspect van deze New World experiment in de democratie en de hoop op een thuisland, dat is een “melting pot.”  Het vooroordeel en de onwetendheid die opgezet en onderhouden slavernij van Afrikanen begon in Portugal (Europa) 50 jaar voordat Columbus zeilde.  Afrika toen (net als nu) was een heel continent dienen als thuisbasis van meerdere culturen, taalgroepen, en degenen die werden gegrond als gelovigen in veel verschillende systemen voor geestelijke waarheid.  Zwarte Afrikanen waren niet allemaal van de ene stam, één natie, één regio of één religie.  Velen waren islamitische gelovigen; sommige antwoordde vormen van sjamanisme; anderen hadden wat instructie in het Christendom ontvangen.  Toch, al werden aanvankelijk ontmenselijkt en onderhouden als “lastdieren”, “darkies”, en “niggras”.  In ongeveer dezelfde manier, Amerikanen wiens afkomst en de oorsprong worden getraceerd naar Afrika, zijn verschillend ontwikkeld in overeenstemming met de bijzondere uitdagingen van het leven op het platteland versus stedelijke omgevingen, status als freeman of slaaf, Oostkust versus het Westen, en Mid- westen versus Noordwest-Amerika.

Vandaag, Afro-Amerikanen oefenen spirituele disciplines die het boeddhisme, jodendom, mormonisme, en Scientology omvatten.  Alle niet de geboorte van Jezus te vieren als de voorspraak van goddelijkheid voor de bevrijding van de schepping van de ketenen van de zonde. Godsdienstvrijheid is meer dan een politieke slogan in ons leven; en, net als het recht om te stemmen, heeft betrekking op de “kwaliteit van leven” en eigenwaarde op een manier die fundamenteel zijn. De begrippen “gelijkheid” en “onpartijdig” zijn van vitaal belang om de ideeën van vrijheid en rechtvaardigheid door middel van wetgeving die essentieel zijn voor een stabiele naties.  Meer dan dit, betrokkenheid, geweten, en het offer-wat we graag ons leven te geven, of geven ons leven voor wordt bepaald in reactie op een groot aantal levensomstandigheden, uitdagingen, doelen en mogelijkheden.

All Black christenen niet erkennen, lof, en eerbied goddelijkheid op dezelfde manier; noch degenen die Kerstmis vieren alles doen op dezelfde manier.  Zwarten kunnen ook genieten van een “witte kerst” net als hun buren in de hele natie.  Gewoonten en tradities variëren als familie leven, een eigen huis, en de doelen die we voor onze kinderen. Zoals geldt voor alle christenen overal, Black christenen verschillen in hun niveau van kennis, voorbereiding, vaardigheden en geestelijke volwassenheid.  De relatie met de Godheid, door Jezus Christus, één geloof, één Heer, één doop, één God en Vader van alle vestigt Black Amerikanen en alle andere christenen die eenheid (eenheid), in plaats van gelijkheid.  Binnen de grenzen en beperkingen van de nieuwe leven door wedergeboorte (de “wet” sommigen noemen zelfdiscipline), gelovigen zijn vrij verwerven van heilige kennis, ontwikkelen door middel van gemeenschap met andere gelovigen, uiten van persoonlijke toewijding, het behoud van de heilige praktijken (we zeggen na te streven, sacramenten), voortdurende studie van de heilige geschriften, en het nastreven van gemeentelijke aanbidding.

Er zijn vele andere ideeën die zorgvuldig moet worden overwogen, goed begrepen, en maakte een deel van de eigen spirituele ontwikkeling, hier.  (Bijvoorbeeld, hebben vele zwarte Amerikanen Christendom gekozen als een manier om uit te drukken en te voldoen aan hun persoonlijke behoeften voor bevestiging, richting, en spirituele kracht. Echter, anderen te accepteren christelijk geloof als een zaak van hun wordt gekozen en aan het werk gezet als instrumenten te bereiken goddelijke en eeuwige doeleinden die niet hun eigen land.  Deze zijn in een continu proces van permanente verandering en transformatie, die ook verandert hoe ze plicht zien, hun plaats in de samenleving, en hun deelname aan zowel seculiere en religieuze tradities.)  Toch, ik vertrouw Dit fragment zal nuttig zijn.  Of het nu aan u volgens uw geloof.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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Themen der Korruption, Perfektion und Reinheit sind in Aussicht, heute. Die Leser sind aufgefordert, über die folgenden von der Schlachter 2000 (SCH 2000) Bibel und meine Gedanken unten erscheinen zu reflektieren:  Titus 1:  15-16, SCH2000:  15 Den Reinen ist alles rein; den Befleckten aber und Ungläubigen ist nichts rein, sondern sowohl ihre Gesinnung als auch ihr Gewissen sind befleckt.  16 Sie geben vor, Gott zu kennen, aber mit den Werken verleugnen sie ihn, da sie verabscheuungswürdig und ungehorsam und zu jedem guten Werk untüchtig sind.   Auch, 1 Johannes 1:  5-9, SCH2000:  5 Und das ist die Botschaft, die wir von ihm gehört haben und euch verkündigen, dass Gott Licht ist und in ihm gar keine Finsternis ist.  6 Wenn wir sagen, dass wir Gemeinschaft mit ihm haben, und doch in der Finsternis wandeln, so lügen wir und tun nicht die Wahrheit;  7 wenn wir aber im Licht wandeln, wie er im Licht ist, so haben wir Gemeinschaft miteinander, und das Blut Jesu Christi, seines Sohnes, reinigt uns von aller Sünde.  8 Wenn wir sagen, dass wir keine Sünde haben, so verführen wir uns selbst, und die Wahrheit ist nicht in uns.  9 Wenn wir aber unsere Sünden bekennen, so ist er treu und gerecht, dass er uns die Sünden vergibt und uns reinigt von aller Ungerechtigkeit.   Römer 5:  13-15, SCH2000:  13 (denn schon vor dem Gesetz war die Sünde in der Welt; wo aber kein Gesetz ist, da wird die Sünde nicht in Rechnung gestellt.  14 Dennoch herrschte der Tod von Adam bis Mose auch über die, welche nicht mit einer gleichartigen Übertretung gesündigt hatten wie Adam, der ein Vorbild dessen ist, der kommen sollte.  15 Aber es verhält sich mit der Gnadengabe nicht wie mit der Übertretung. Denn wenn durch die Übertretung des Einen die Vielen gestorben sind, wie viel mehr ist die Gnade Gottes und das Gnadengeschenk durch den einen Menschen Jesus Christus in überströmendem Maß zu den Vielen gekommen.  Der Kämpfer im “Yahoo! Antworten (seit 1. August 2014 Stufe 1 mit 13 Punkten, ein Mitglied) BADWOLF “”, der die ID verwendet “folgendes geschrieben:

 

Warum lässt Gott korrupten Vollkommenheit des Geistes, indem sie uns in einem menschlichen body..is er ein Sadist?

 

Den goldenen Pfeil:  Und doch hast du, Jakob, nicht mich angerufen, noch hast du dich um mich bemüht, Israel!  23 Du hast mir deine Brandopferschafe nicht dargebracht und mich nicht mit deinen Schlachtopfern geehrt. Ich habe dir nicht zu schaffen gemacht mit Speisopfern, ich habe dich mit Weihrauchspenden nicht ermüdet.  24 Du hast mir nicht Gewürzrohr um Geld gekauft und mit dem Fett deiner Schlachtopfer mich nicht getränkt; aber du hast mir zu schaffen gemacht mit deinen Sünden und mir Mühe gemacht mit deinen Missetaten!  25 Ich, ich tilge deine Übertretungen um meinetwillen, und an deine Sünden will ich nie mehr gedenken!  26 Erinnere mich, wir wollen miteinander rechten; zähle [doch] auf, womit du dich rechtfertigen willst!  27 Dein erster Vater hat gesündigt, und deine Lehrer haben mir die Treue gebrochen;  28 darum habe ich die Vorsteher des Heiligtums entweiht und Jakob dem Bann preisgegeben und Israel den Schmähungen.  (Jesaja 43:  22-28, SCH2000)

 

DIE Doppelkreuz: Die Wahl der Kenntnisse? (2015.10.28); Die Rückkehr zu Staub? (2015.06.14); Beziehung mit unseren Schöpfer? (2015.03.16); Vor der Fruit? (11.10.2012); Warum “Mysterious” (11.11.2012); Warum Kleidung? (10/15/2010); Bekannte von GOTT? (10/16/2010)

 

“BADWOLF”, christlichen Gläubigen haben keine Ahnung, dass Göttlichkeit hat Creation beschädigt zu halten.  Adam war fast 1000 Jahre alt ist, wie viele andere der Patriarchen.  Die Erde wurde von Epidemien, Luft- und Wasserverschmutzung, und die Probleme von Müll, “fossilen Brennstoffen” und menschliche Abfälle unbefleckt.  Die Anfänge der Menschheit gelten als mit einem perfekten Geist gewesen, in einem perfekten Körper, in einer perfekten Umgebung und Lebenssphäre zu verstehen.  Mehr als das, die Gläubigen in der Regel zustimmen, dass es ebenso absurd und undenkbar, dass der Schöpfung Gottes würde keinen Wert auf den Schöpfer zu haben, und der Schöpfer würde keinen Wert auf seine Schöpfung zu haben.  GOTT ist sich all unsere gegenwärtigen Fehler, Unvollkommenheiten und Mängel, doch Gott ist mehr mit Spar unser Leben als unser Leben zu zerstören.  Gottheit kann nur durch Urteil, Wiedergeburt, und der Offenbarung bekannt sein.  Die Wahl zu umarmen säkularen anstatt heilige Wissen führte zu der schrecklichen Verlust der Weihe, intime Beziehung, göttliche Respekt und Vertrauen unerlässlich.  Aspekte der Stiftung, die Menschheit als menschliche Verfassung gewährt wurden, unfähig gemacht Erfüllung ewigen Vorsatz; und die Menschheit würde kontinuierlich durch die Operationen der Sünde, die zum Chaos, Verwirrung und Nicht-Existenz betreffen angefochten werden.  Betrachten Sie einmal die folgenden von den heiligen Schriften:

(1.)   Römer 8:  18-25, Schlachter 2000 (SCH2000):  18 Denn ich bin überzeugt, dass die Leiden der jetzigen Zeit nicht ins Gewicht fallen gegenüber der Herrlichkeit, die an uns geoffenbart werden soll.  19 Denn die gespannte Erwartung der Schöpfung sehnt die Offenbarung der Söhne Gottes herbei.  20 Die Schöpfung ist nämlich der Vergänglichkeit unterworfen, nicht freiwillig, sondern durch den, der sie unterworfen hat, auf Hoffnung hin,  21 dass auch die Schöpfung selbst befreit werden soll von der Knechtschaft der Sterblichkeit zur Freiheit der Herrlichkeit der Kinder Gottes.  22 Denn wir wissen, dass die ganze Schöpfung mitseufzt und mit in Wehen liegt bis jetzt;  23 und nicht nur sie, sondern auch wir selbst, die wir die Erstlingsgabe des Geistes haben, auch wir erwarten seufzend die Sohnesstellung, die Erlösung unseres Leibes.  24 Denn auf Hoffnung hin sind wir errettet worden. Eine Hoffnung aber, die man sieht, ist keine Hoffnung; denn warum hofft auch jemand auf das, was er sieht?  25 Wenn wir aber auf das hoffen, was wir nicht sehen, so erwarten wir es mit standhaftem Ausharren.

(2.)   Jeremia 6:  14-16, SCH2000:  14 Und sie heilen den Schaden der Tochter meines Volkes leichthin, indem sie sprechen: »Friede, Friede!«, wo es doch keinen Frieden gibt.  15 Schämen sollten sie sich, weil sie Gräuel verübt haben! Aber sie wissen nicht mehr, was sich schämen heißt, und empfinden keine Scham. Darum werden sie fallen unter den Fallenden; zur Zeit ihrer Heimsuchung werden sie stürzen!, spricht der Herr.  16 So spricht der Herr:  Tretet hin an die Wege und schaut und fragt nach den Pfaden der Vorzeit, welches der gute Weg ist, und wandelt darauf, so werdet ihr Ruhe finden für eure Seelen! Sie aber sprechen: »Wir wollen nicht darauf wandeln!«

(3.)  Galater 5:  16-18, SCH2000:  16 Ich sage aber:  Wandelt im Geist, so werdet ihr die Lust des Fleisches nicht vollbringen.  17 Denn das Fleisch gelüstet gegen den Geist und der Geist gegen das Fleisch; und diese widerstreben einander, sodass ihr nicht das tut, was ihr wollt.  18 Wenn ihr aber vom Geist geleitet werdet, so seid ihr nicht unter dem Gesetz.

Es gibt viele andere Verse, die sorgfältig betrachtet werden sollten, richtig verstanden habe, und machte eine permanente Aspekt diejenigen geistigen Fülle.  (Zum Beispiel, (4.) Römer 5:   1-5, SCH2000:  1 Da wir nun aus Glauben gerechtfertigt sind, so haben wir Frieden mit Gott durch unseren Herrn Jesus Christus,  2 durch den wir im Glauben auch Zugang erlangt haben zu der Gnade, in der wir stehen, und wir rühmen uns der Hoffnung auf die Herrlichkeit Gottes.  3 Aber nicht nur das, sondern wir rühmen uns auch in den Bedrängnissen, weil wir wissen, dass die Bedrängnis standhaftes Ausharren bewirkt,  4 das standhafte Ausharren aber Bewährung, die Bewährung aber Hoffnung;  5 die Hoffnung aber lässt nicht zuschanden werden; denn die Liebe Gottes ist ausgegossen in unsere Herzen durch den Heiligen Geist, der uns gegeben worden ist.)  Trotzdem vertraue ich dieses Fragment von Nutzen sein wird.  Sei es euch nach eurem Glauben.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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