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Proper reading of a Scripture verse often identified as being from sacred “wisdom literature” is in focus, today.  Also, there is more on why prayer may not be enough.   The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Jack Xi Jin” (Level 1 with 18 points, a member since may 14, 2013) posted the following:

What is the meaning of Ecclesiastes 11:3?

deeper meaning?

THE BATTLE AXE:  Prayer not Enough? (07/12/2013)— (4)  In the same way the absence or presence of faith is not to depend upon a person regularly hearing or seeing miracles, ones belief and trust in GOD is not to depend upon the evidence of answered or unanswered prayer.  Faith permits certainty and knowing based upon a person’s inner content being influenced by and interacting with divine spirit matter.  (5)  Until believers mature to higher levels of faith and submission to GOD, they will continue to engage ambitions, desires and hopes generated from material, physical and social objects.  While GOD has authority and power to grant all that we might ask in prayer, all things we may ask are not expedient for our service as covenant partners, examples, leaders, priests and the righteous offspring of GOD.  Nor do all things further our complete transformation into those glorified, justified, immortal, incorruptible, redeemed, and sanctified.  (6)  In addition to confession of sin, confession of need and declarations of forgiveness are aspects of effectual prayer.  Given that prayer is to be a further demonstration of humility, love and unselfishness the better content is what we give and release to GOD.  Included are acknowledgment, glory, gratitude, honor, praise, and worship.  It remains that the prayers of believers are most correct, and in greatest harmony with GOD—not when pursuing a private agenda or personal affairs—when asking for divine judgment; fulfillment of sacred proclamations, promises, and prophecies; outpourings of divine spirit; repentance; salvation; and the fulfillment of eternal purpose.  See Psalm 80:  3-7, Philippians 4:  5-7, 1st Corinthians 10:  22-24 and Romans 8:  26-30, KJV.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:  The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God:  for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:  so is every one that is born of the Spirit.  Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?  (John 3:  1-12, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Guide to Salvation (04/10/2013); Faith, Language and “Mystery” (04/11/2013); A Spirit Church? (04/04/2013); Spirit Matter (10/21/2012); Caesarea Philippi (10/22/2012); GOD Does Exist (03/20/2012); The “Original” Bible (03/21/2012); (09/04/2011) Dispatch 25:  Comparing Spiritual Things

“Jack Xi Jin”, many serious believers in Christ would first caution you not to separate passages and verses that form a paragraph of the Scriptures.  The message immediately becomes distorted and warped when taken out of context.  The full context includes New Testament writings (see John 3, KJV).  Even so, here are some points to consider that should help you to avoid spiritual confusion:

(1)  The verse states that there are finite conditions, natural limitations (we say, laws), and peculiar sequences of events within the material sphere that holds created beings and living creatures.

(2)  With verses 1-5, the following verse (# 4) goes on to assert that a person’s focus upon aspects of the material sphere does not  produce knowledge of divinity and right relationship to the Creator any more than research and study (we say, meteorology, and science) of the wind produces authority over and control of the weather.

(3)  Mankind is encouraged to apply information, make measured choices, and pursue meaningful goals despite lacking total knowledge of the human environment, and despite not having a perfect knowledge of GOD.  Thus, unstated elements come into view that include confidence, faith, holy boldness, risk-taking, and trust.

As with all Scripture, there is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example,  (4)  Just as obtaining right knowledge of material reality often requires a person to take action, have contact, immerse themselves, participate in events and then wait, acquiring right relationship to GOD as Creator, Judge, redeemer, and Savior demands peculiar operations and responses through the ministry of Jesus Christ that appear to go forward or come into view only after extended periods of waiting.  Much of what believers receive (baptism, church attendance, study of the Bible, etc.) is to enable and enrich ones wait.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

Disclaimer 7-10

Topics, today, include laws of nature, science, and the World. Also, there is more on why disbelief is foolish. A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “David G” (Level 5 with 8,424 points, a member since August 25, 2007) posted the following:

Is it true that God created nature’s laws, such as gravity?

THE BATTLE AXE: Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013)—Given the enormous benefit that may be gained, or the horrible loss that must be endured on the basis of one having or lacking right relationship with GOD, no truly intelligent person fails to investigate thoroughly for themselves the claims of GOD in Christ. People are accounted as foolish when not believing GOD, because the Divine Person maybe experienced as perfect in relationship, righteousness, and truth. The sacred motive of GOD to extend being and substance to mankind can be discovered, and correctly apprehended; and it may be known with certainty that in him there is no darkness at all. When speaking of atheism, disbelief and spiritual confusion, the word “foolish” is used to describe a broad mix of self-destructive attitudes, behaviors, character flaws and weaknesses. Included are arrogance, carelessness, ignorance, immaturity, imprudence, inattentiveness, indecisiveness, laziness, negligence, presumption, pride, recklessness, rigidity, sloppiness, slothfulness, and stubbornness.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. (1st Timothy 6: 3-5, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Dispatch 25: Comparing Spiritual Things (09/04/2011); Mankind’s World? (11/20/2010); For Our Sins? (11/21/2010); Things? (11/13/2010); Mealtime Grace (11/14/2010)

Most mature Christian believers hold that the many cycles, patterns, regularities and relationships that exist within the material context of human reality, in fact, have place as aspects of divine Creation. The World, a system describing the emotional, psychological, and social frameworks for human living, is man-made. The heaven and the earth have been created by GOD as an expression of divine being, eternal presence, and sacred purpose. However, the World has been created by mankind as an expression of human makeup, a tool for acquiring, exchanging, and replenishing resources, and an array of related devices to ensure human survival. Included are agriculture, finance, education, history, language, politics, science, and technology.

The process of the World relies heavily upon measuring, observing, recording, counterfeiting, and manipulating things created by GOD. Among the various goals of science is that mankind have detailed knowledge of the biosphere and environment wherein we experience our lives. While the aims of science also include being able to control, influence and predict the behavior of objects and continuing events, present human makeup will never allow mankind to “create something from nothing,” or bestow life upon any object totally void of organic substance.

The work of science that centers upon the discovery and statement of laws to describe nature uses such methods and materials as demographics, experimentation to test hypotheses, forecasting, population sampling, statistical analysis, and theory-building. Two of the most important issues are that (1) findings from science must be reliable (i.e., others who use the same approach, materials, etc. must obtain the same outcomes), and conferences, mass media, and other tools must be in place for dissemination (i.e., spreading new ideas, results from studies, etc.).

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, the divine spirit that presently exists within created beings and living creatures is also identified and documented using aspects of what is called the “scientific method.” Like the wind that cannot be seen, or tasted, and itself makes no sound yet is known by its action upon objects that are visible (e.g., a scrap of paper tossed, clouds being driven, trees bending), presence of the imparted, indwelling Spirit of Christ absolutely is known by the demonstrations of the church, and has been described in detail through the holy writings. Science insists upon denying the Spirit as a fit object for academic discussion and study, because there can be no control or manipulation of divinity. (So to speak, GOD may not come under science; science must come under GOD.) For, full and correct knowledge of GOD only comes by such divine operations as obedience, rebirth, repentance, trust, sanctification and submission to GOD.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC