Posts Tagged ‘agreement’

1 In Accord

 

Today, reply topics include authority, natural disaster, divine power, prayer, and the will of GOD. Few divine objectives are accomplished simply by believers expressing accord, agreement, and unity among themselves. Neither the will of a full congregation nor that of the full church are sufficient to alter or overturn the unchanging will of GOD. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum who uses the ID “Matt85” (Level 4 with 4,274 points, a member since September 18, 2016) posted the following:

 

 

Will someone agree with me to pray this hurricane won’t reach land?

Jesus said: “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.”

So please agree with me.

Update: With the majority of your attitudes, you will never get round to agreeing for something. Agreeing means you really need to agree. To united in will. Yes an entire church of people can miss the point.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. (Acts 4: 31-33, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Gift(s) From GOD (04/08/2018); As An Anointed Body (10/04/2017); Storms to Punish America? (09/08/2017); From Dust Thou Art (09/07/2017); Existence, Mortality and GOD? (08/31/2017); Unless You Repent (03/05/2013); The Childhood of Jesus? (03/06/2013)

 

Matt85”, as you know, prayer is not intended to manipulate, pressure GOD to make changes, or subordinate divinity; and the primary revelation by the Son of GOD has been so that mankind will acknowledge and extol the Father. Even so, in their beginnings and while they are developing, Christian believers often focus on the material, natural, and social world. In those stages of edification and growth, they also repeatedly dismiss the arguments from Scripture that the proper focus of mankind as the new creation of Jesus Christ is the eternal purpose, substance, and sacred operation of divinity, rather than our ongoing human infirmity.

Consistent with the truth that divine fullness (we say, the GODhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) contains all the inseparable aspects of spirit substance that will ever exist, becoming “born again” and the transformations of mankind through baptism, resurrection and the Second Coming (we also say, his appearing; the Advent; the harvest; the Rapture) must impart such features as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Christians are encouraged to gather and ask for such spirit matter from the makeup of GOD; however, believers are not instructed to ask for anything and everything human appetite, consciousness, and self-will may fix on through desire, or for interruptions of earthly events and operations,

Many things in human experience are not designed, or intended to endure as expressions of divine will, and may only proceed or respond to mechanical sequences and natural laws. Thus the prayer for inner peace during a hurricane and the time of recovery to follow can be more appropriate than the prayer to stop, or turn the wind away. Our expectation (we say, hope) is most godly where we seek the application of spirit substance to accomplish change in aspects of sacred order that are not immutable and unchanging. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.) Romans 8: 5-9, King James Version (KJV): 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(2.) Philippians 2: 2, KJV: 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

(3.) Romans 8: 27-29, KJV: 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 1st John 5: 13-15, KJV: 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
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THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

Today, peace is described as a result of divine operations that must occur within the living, and unfold like the gradual growth of a seed.  For mature Christian believers, peace is an inner condition as well as the social framework and lifestyle vital to relationships between and among nations seeking exchange, prosperity, and mutual support.  For modern nations, the peace process consists in such features as adjudication, conferences, diplomacy, negotiations, and talks.  Peace will result as the outcome of complete agreement, or consensus (i.e., accord achieved through acceptance, compromise, and consent).  Many heads of state and global councils adopt a “hard line” posture and refuse peace through consensus.  They prefer to pursue a war that may only spread bitterness, death, destruction, poverty, and revenge, and can never result in peace, because by a pact or treaty they also must lose advantages and benefits.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Harold” (Level 4 with 3,041 points, a member since June 24, 2009) posted the following:

 

Don’t you just wish God Almighty would impose peace upon the world?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any:  even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.  And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.  Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.  And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.  (Colossians 3:  12-17, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  About Judgment By GOD (08/29/2016); Divine Focus and Process (07/19/2016); World Peace Is Coming? (05/08/2016); To Have True Peace? (11/12/2015);  Conflict Because of Religious Belief? (01/30/2015);  Understanding Peace? (11/20/2013); Adversary or Servant? (11/21/2013)

 

“Harold”, the divine operations to generate and maintain peace throughout the fullness of Creation also are aspects of the revelation of GOD whereby divinity is made knowable, known, and present for created beings and living creatures.  While ultimate authority, judgment, ownership and sovereignty only are to be found with GOD, the nature of divine control and governance are not coercion, external demands, and intimidation by outside forces.  Among Christian believers, peace is the outcome of judgment (i.e., applying law to establish balance, maintain fairness, resolve conflict, and settle disputes), and self-government under GOD, and is not the outcome or reward for warfare.  Personal peace must appear from within a person through the exchange, joining, interaction, and reconfiguration of inseparable aspects from the divine makeup that must reside within the living.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, joy, longsuffering, love, meekness, restraint, and wisdom.  With these points in view, one must understand that peace for the world must derive from within the world.  Consider again how some of this is stated using the Bible:

(1.)  Matthew 10:  32-39, King James Version (KJV):  32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.  33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.  34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:  I came not to send peace, but a sword.  35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.  36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.  37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me:  and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.  38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.  39 He that findeth his life shall lose it:  and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

(2.)  Hebrews 4:  12-13, KJV:  12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.  13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight:  but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

(3.)  Matthew 5:  8-10, KJV:  8 Blessed are the pure in heart:  for they shall see God.  9 Blessed are the peacemakers:  for they shall be called the children of God.  10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake:  for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

(4.)  John 15:  17-20, KJV:  17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.  18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.  19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own:  but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.  20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

There is far more to be said, thoughtfully examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Romans 5:  1-5, KJV:  1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:  2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.  3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also:  knowing that tribulation worketh patience;  4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:  5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Merchandise Disclaimer

 

Today, points are shared on continuing to live in agreement with family who are non-believers.  At some point, most Christian believers are challenged regarding their commitment to GOD by someone who is a close relative.  This may be a parent, their spouse, their children.  The final judgment and removal of wickedness from the earth is the work of divinity, not that of the believer.  In the same way we are not required as individuals to attack, condemn, quarrel against, and remove every restaurant or shopkeeper selling alcoholic beverages, cigarettes or coffee, Christians are not to be in the role of those seeking to destroy ownership of private businesses, the world, or the home.  Instead, we are to show how, endowed and gifted by divinity, a person may rise above the recurring conflicts of the modern world, and resist negative influence from others like ourselves in need of salvation.  Consider again the following from the Bible, and the presentation below:  1st John 2:  15-16, King James Version (KJV):  15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.  Also, Romans 12:  1-2,  KJV:  1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.  2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “sha A” (Level 1 with 32 points, a member since March 14, 2014) posted the following:

How do I come at peace with family that never supports me As a Christian ?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,  As when the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!  When thou didst terrible things which we looked not for, thou camest down, the mountains flowed down at thy presence.  For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.  Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways:  behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned:  in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.  But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.  And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee:  for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.  But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.  Be not wroth very sore, O LORD, neither remember iniquity for ever:  behold, see, we beseech thee, we are all thy people.  (Isaiah 64:  1-9, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Denying Mutual Need? (06/25/2015); Approaching Mothers Day (05/07/2015); In Not From The World? (12/26/2014); How To Renew The Mind (11/22/2013); The World Passeth Away (11/12/2013); My Brother’s Keeper (04/05/2013); Issues for Children’s Church? (04/06/2013); A Family Affair? (04/01/2013); Emotional Appeal? (04/02/2013)

“sha A”, here are some points to consider on having true peace:

(1.)  To have peace, Created beings and living creatures must be in correct relationship with the Creator.  Thus, the obstacles of finite being, separation, and sin must be overcome. This is why the process of achieving peace with ones family members who are not believers and followers of Christ is the same as that for continuing in peace with the world.  Believers are to acknowledge that the world system created by mankind for communication, exchange and survival operates in terms that are very different from those supplied by divinity as sacred knowledge and practice.  Believers are to conduct themselves as “in the world” yet not a product of the world.

(2.)  The tasks and work given to believers are not the condemnation and destruction of the world.  Rather, focus is upon divinity, and expressing divine truth that proclaims acknowledgment, acceptance, release, and reconciliation.  Sacred operations must be completed whereby the entire universe is established in permanent change.  Thus, the disciples of Jesus undergo change, and are used as a divine instrument to further preserve and transform the world.

(3.)  Through baptism (i.e., death of ones inborn spirit; rebirth from divine DNA, so to speak) and other operations of GOD, believers are given spirit content from the makeup of Deity.  Included are inseparable aspects of the divine nature such as faith, holiness, longsuffering, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Those who are born again are to “grow up” again by meeting the same life challenges as all others upon the earth.  They must grow to maturity (i.e., become balanced, complete, stable) as well as be made perfect for eternity through divine actions that include judgment, death, resurrection, and sanctification.  Believers are to demonstrate godliness (we say, god-likeness) and the unique patterns of growth where believers are made ready to be received by Christ when he comes to harvest them from the earth.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, believers are to continue showing love and respect to family members.  Where it comes to matters of belief, be ready to share and give as much as may be received; however, demand nothing from others.  Withdraw to give freedom, and so that you maintain independence and integrity—theirs as well as your own.  Keep in mind, amateur preaching is seldom welcome.  Unasked for explanations are called “excuses”; unasked for advice is called “interference”; and unasked for help is called “meddling”.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

New Disclaimer

Today, response is shared for a discussion on paradise, purgatory and teachings within the Scriptures on the place and state of the dead.  Principles for answering supposed contradictions found in Scripture as well as differences among accounts and doctrines are considered.  Linjo Eveline who participates with me in THE BIBLE STUDY GROUP (a Public Group on Facebook presently having 19,656 members), invited comments by sharing a presentation that included the following at about 11: 41am on August 18, 2015:

 

please borthers and sisters l realy wish to know if there is a place call PURGATRY where if u die with sin u will stay there then ur family will pray so that God should fogive your sins?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:  and so shall we ever be with the Lord.  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  (1st Thessalonians 4:  13-18, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Living Baptized for the Dead? (03/27/2015); Like a Thief? (12/01/2013); Only While We Live? (12/02/2013); Reveal Himself To All? (12/03/2013); The Dead in Christ? (11/18/2013); Too Much Holy Spirit? (11/19/2013); Ghosts (09/02/2012); About Conversion (09/03/2012)

 

Linjo Eveline, be encouraged!  Holding to the principle that there are no contradictions within the Scriptures, believers still can identify differences, near repetitions and shifts that many take to be errors.  The Bible must be read with an eye to divine intent and eternal purpose.  Every attractive and pleasing idea may not be appropriate, for the holy writings contain many subtleties (i.e., barely visible differences; hidden shifts in meaning and value).  Those who exaggerate the significance of discovered differences often become excited and seek to discredit and dismiss the entire Bible.  Examples even are seen when a simple change in spelling occurs as with “Esaias” instead of “Isaiah”, “Cora” and “Kore” instead of “Korah”.  It is not that differences do not appear, rather, it is that—because our salvation is through grace, by faith, and not by works—discovered differences are often irrelevant, and not significant.  This truth also applies when considering differences among long-held doctrines and traditions such as those regarding the place and state of the dead.

The references to the bosom of Abraham and Paul praying for the dead are unfortunate, for they encourage ideas regarding the state of the dead that are in conflict with other teachings presented from the Scriptures.  For example, the state of the spirit separated from the body is indirectly described in the account of Saul using the witch of En-dor as a medium or vessel to contain the spirit of the prophet Samuel.  As surely as it is written, the dead praise not GOD, and lose all concern and interest for the things of the earth, spirits separated from flesh as living souls no longer may display character and personality they showed when living, and can not know or predict the future.  In the instance of Saul, Samuel repeated things that had been proclaimed while the prophet was alive that, in fact, had addressed Saul’s future.  Where touching a dead body renders a person unfit to participate in the community of believers, surely, having contact with a “dead” spirit renders a living person defiled.

Many of us assume that the spirit of a dead person remains in the coffin, and with the cadaver of the deceased.  However, when a spirit is separated from its body through death, the spirit does continue to exist.  The Scriptures only state that the spirit returns to GOD who gave it; and does not provide detail on an area or gathering place for spirits.  In accounts we have been given, there is no indication that spirits separated from flesh (many say, ghosts that exist through death and natural processes) roam the earth as do Satan and his followers (spirit beings created by divinity).  Thus, in the account of a man who ran amok among the tombs and had  a legion of unclean spirits, these were not spirits from the deceased; and the devils were not willing to inhabit the corpses buried there.

That a spirit can exist without a body is further shown by the account in Revelation where John of Patmos reported hearing souls beneath the altar in heaven that cry, “How long, O Lord, holy and true dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”  These are described as having been lifted from the earth, and are understood as having gone through the complete process of their own final judgment; yet, they are not in full resurrection, and are awaiting the return to their physical body.

Many believers want to avoid the anxiety, depression, emotional pain, fear, and multiple errors that result by exaggerating our focus upon damnation, death, the dead and dying.  These are more likely to affirm that there is a spirit realm that compares to the spheres of life created for those upon the earth, and within heaven.  These unknowingly alter the teachings from the Apostle Paul that discuss resurrection and various differences in flesh and glory.  For the Christian believer, release from despair, gloom, morbidity, and pessimism are accomplished primarily by concentrating on the divine proclamations, promises and prophesies regarding our redemption, our salvation, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, his harvesting all believers from the earth as well as life in New Jerusalem and upon the earth made new.

There is much more that could be said, that should be carefully weighed, and spiritually taken into account.  (For example, we agree, one faith, one Lord, one baptism, one GOD and Father of all.  Yet, just as the harmony and peace of the church as the body of Christ does not result from believers all wearing the same type of clothing, having the same employer, or sharing the same marital status, unity in Christ is not an outcome of believers all agreeing on every question and topic, all ministering (e.g., hospitality, preaching, teaching) to others in the exact same way, or all placing the exact same emphasis upon the shared doctrines.  Disagreement with continued respect and diversity are  important to the fullness and richness of the church as a living expression of divinity.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Offering prayer in public on behalf of minor children during a kindergarten graduation is considered, today.  Christ is our only mediator provided by the Father, and no one else may fill his role or take his place.  Adults must be careful to present prayer as a sacred practice and not simply another secular activity.  The intercession and prayers of those who follow Jesus Christ only become acceptable to divinity when the heart, mind, and spirit of the Lord are being acknowledged and communicated.  Then, ones words express the gratitude, hope, humility, sacred intent, joy, love, praise and righteousness of the Savior and those endowed with his Spirit, rather than merely the desires, needs and thoughts from an individual seeking to minister by prayer.  For an assembly, the framework for effective prayer must be agreement, and shared spirit.  Because the prayer is to carry all assembled into the divine presence, it also pertains to examination and judgment.  Thus, the children should first have been prepared at home through parental instruction, and the sacred practice within their own family.  While adults will often have correct knowledge regarding the carnal, emotional, intellectual, material and other needs of children, they are not to presume themselves expert regarding all the detailed spiritual needs of those who come under their protection.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “ceila” (Level 1 with 97 points a member since March 24, 2015) attacked using the following:

 

I need kindergarten graduation closing prayer to read tomorrow afternoon. please help!?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And the child Samuel ministered unto the LORD before Eli. And the word of the LORD was precious in those days; there was no open vision.  And it came to pass at that time, when Eli was laid down in his place, and his eyes began to wax dim, that he could not see;  And ere the lamp of God went out in the temple of the LORD, where the ark of God was, and Samuel was laid down to sleep;  That the LORD called Samuel:  and he answered, Here am I.  And he ran unto Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou calledst me. And he said, I called not; lie down again. And he went and lay down.  And the LORD called yet again, Samuel. And Samuel arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And he answered, I called not, my son; lie down again.  Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet revealed unto him.  And the LORD called Samuel again the third time. And he arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And Eli perceived that the LORD had called the child.  Therefore Eli said unto Samuel, Go, lie down:  and it shall be, if he call thee, that thou shalt say, Speak, LORD; for thy servant heareth. So Samuel went and lay down in his place.  And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant heareth.  (1st Samuel 3:  1-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Family and Beliefs of Children? (08/29/2014); Stories Repeated in the Bible? (08/30/2014); Why the Gospel for Our Children (05/13/2014); Changing Times and Laws? (05/14/2014); Issues for Children’s Church? (04/06/2013); Outgrowing Childhood Prayers? (04/07/2013); Confessing Only to GOD? (04/08/2013); Childlike Faith (10/18/2012); Why Did The Judges Fight? (10/19/2012)

 

“ceila”, where you only want to put on an act, or public performance (we say, ceremony) a poem from a greeting card will do.  Where you truly want to intercede, and speak to divinity on behalf of the children, their parents, the staff of the institution, and others, your prayer must come from your spirit.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Psalm 54:  1-3 King James Version (KJV):  Save me, O God, by thy name, and judge me by thy strength.  Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth.  For strangers are risen up against me, and oppressors seek after my soul:  they have not set God before them. Selah.

(2.)  Matthew 6:  5-14 (KJV):  And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are:  for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.  But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do:  for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.  Be not ye therefore like unto them:  for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.  After this manner therefore pray ye:  Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.  Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.  Give us this day our daily bread.  And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:  For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

(3.)  Matthew 5:  16 (KJV):  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Here, again, there is far more that must be plainly said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Truth spoken in love is the primary need (like here).  Leading a group in prayer is not the same as offering a prayer as their representative and spokesperson.  A brief heartfelt prayer is better than a long-winded speech that attempts to include everything from a laundry list of needs and “things to do.”  As their final instruction, the children may be sent forth with words of blessing, or a passage from the Scriptures, no more than 3 or 4 verses as with Numbers 6:  24-26 (KJV):  The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:  The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:  The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Some points on dreams, divine messages, prayer, and prophecy are shared, today.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “GisherJohn” (Level 3 with 1,434 points, a member since September 02, 2008) posted the following:

 

Praying seems to bring me more vivid dreams and I get messages, is this normal?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORDIs not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?  Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.  Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.  Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them:  therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.  And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.  And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house.  Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken?  And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more:  for every man’s word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.  (Jeremiah 23:  28-36, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  How GOD Answers Prayer? (01/09/2015); Stories Repeated in the Bible? (08/30/2014); Why Similar Accounts (08/31/2014); Intercession (12/27/2013); Jesus Is GOD’s Word (12/28/2013); Alpha and Omega (12/29/2013); About Conversion (09/03/2012); Ghosts (09/02/2012)

 

“GisherJohn”, there are many points of understanding I would like to share with you that are important among Christian believers who want to avoid spiritual confusion.  Keeping it brief, however, consider these:

(1.)  One Faith, One Lord, One Baptism.  The operations of GOD to reveal divinity are all directed to specific divine purposes and truths that are now documented in the holy writings.  The sacred writings all have been generated by a single spirit, therefore, legitimate experience of communion with Christ is recognized by a process of spirit we call “discernment”.  Ones spirit content from the eternal makeup of Deity must be the “standard” used to compare and contrast spirit content within finite events, guidance, objects, and other persons.

(2.)  There Is No New Message.  GOD is immutable and unchanging (we say, the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow) yet, interacts with created beings and living creatures whose awareness is continually subject to change, modification and movement that will include multiple levels and objects of focus.  The Word (we say, breath, essence, spirit) is that aspect of the fullness of GOD that may be known as utterance (e.g., commandments, praise, proclamation, promise, prophecy).  GOD has appeared incarnate (we say, in flesh) as Jesus Christ to complete and fulfill major events and requirements for eternal life.

(3.)  Frameworks of Time and Space.  Divine order is established, maintained, and appears as divine law, sacred principles and eternal precepts.  The many operations of GOD to benefit created beings and living creatures upon the earth were initiated before the Creation began.  Included are atonement, birth, death, forgiveness, incarnation, judgment, rebirth, repentance, resurrection, revelation, salvation, and sanctification.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Not of Private Interpretation.  Dreams and messages that proceed from GOD are intended for the full body of believers who are in covenant agreement, and so must come under the consideration of other believers entrusted with the same sacred truth.  Dreams that express features for ones individual character and personality emerge from such finite elements as emotions, intellect, logic, philosophy, and science.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to the measure of your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Sameness of Spirit, and personal relationship with divinity are the topics, today.  The “Yahoo! Answers” Top Contributor using the ID “Camille” (Level 7 with 177, 569 points, a member since March 18, 2009) posted the following:

 

What does it mean to have a personal relationship with the Christian God? 

I am not asking about pagan gods.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:  The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God:  for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:  so is every one that is born of the Spirit.  Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?  (John 3:  1-12, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Belief, Faith, and Proof (03/02/2014); Miracles and Visitations? (03/03/2014); Face to Face Like Moses? (01/28/2014); Covenants and Relationships (01/29/2014); Salvation is Conditional? (01/30/2014); Reveal Himself To All? (12/03/2013); Is Science the Right Tool? (12/04/2013); Why “Mysterious” (11/11/2012); Attending Church? (11/12/2012)

 

“Camille”, here are a few of the many ideas and points that all Christian believers examine to arrive at their correct human view.  These things are not for you unless you choose to have them:

(1.)  GOD is a spirit who has put forth all awareness, form, process, and substance that we know as “life”.  For GOD to be more than an abstract and mechanical feature in human experience, and to interact with created beings and living creatures acknowledging their unique integrity, divinity must exist with fixed and unchanging aspects that make relationship possible.  Included are attraction, affection, authority, respect, person, purpose, trust, and sovereign will.

(2.)  Personal relationship with GOD requires the presence and operation of divine spirit.  Intellect, logic and reason continue to be used, however, under the direction and influence of elements having cosmic dimensions.  The spirit makeup of GOD does not include the features that continue human error, and sin.  Also, the spirit matter of GOD should not be thought of as a cloud, fog, mist, smoke, or vapor that all consist of material particles.  So to speak, the content of GOD, is inseparable substance (where you find one, all the others appear) such as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, love, wisdom and wrath against sin.  These aspects of divinity interact generating the active presence and power of GODhead.

(3.)  Without a fresh endowment of divinity, the living can not comprehend their own experience of GOD.  Conflict and spiritual confusion repeatedly result through clashes of appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, cravings for stimulation), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), and emotion/mental functions (e.g., fantasy, fear, imagination, lust, recall, thought).  Also, the operations of sin among the angels and mankind, have introduced corruption of their makeup at Creation.  Only by the dispensation through Jesus Christ is there a mechanism for permanent atonement, cleansing, healing, and restoration to right relationship.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Where a person is “born again,” they must also grow again to become perfect (we say, mature).  As we enter into any relationship, we must be prepared to hear and see things that are new, sometimes off-putting, and unfamiliar.  We must grow in confidence, “in ease,” and in self-mastery.  The expectation (we say, hope) of eternal life may only be realized in those relationships where mutual agreement, acceptance, and absolute truth appear (we say, reconciliation and sanctification.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to the measure of divine faith that resides in you.

For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.  (Hebrews 3:  14-15, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC