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Today, reply is on the prophecy of 144,000 Jews who will be separated to Christ, and the oneness without sameness that will prevail within the heaven and earth made new. Hierarchy as a tool for divine order will likely continue to appear; yet, there will be no ambition, covetousness, distrust, or envy. However great or small the full number of Jews will be among those that appear in heaven (like the amount and size of ones faith and the measure of ones works), the amount or quantity of Jews will be neither an indication of divine imbalance, nor partiality on the part of GOD. Distinctions of ethnicity, national origin, and race will not be meaningful within the new heaven and earth. Moreover, such labels as Catholicism, Judaism, and Protestantism will have to take on new substance. Merit and reward will be on the basis of adding value, the perfection of fit and supply through shared duty, the merging of multiple contributions, and the unselfish service of those who make up the kingdom. It is written: Judges 7: 1-4, King James Version (KJV): 1 Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. 2 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against me, saying, Mine own hand hath saved me. 3 Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead. And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. 4 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality using the ID “black hawk” (Level 1 with 10 points, a member since June 18, 2017) posted the following:

 

The Jews will be vastly outnumbered by other Christians in the new heaven and earth: Revelation 7:4-8. Do you agree or not?

Revelation 7:4-8 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND OF ALL THE TRIBES OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE SEALED: of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;

of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.

The above Scripture (bold type) has served to highlight the FACT that there will be no more than 144 thousand Jews in the new heaven and earth and New Jerusalem. Revelation 21

Consequently, the Jews will be vastly outnumbered by other Christians in the new heaven and earth.

Because the New Testament says that only a FEW people from every nation and tribe will survive to enter the new heaven and earth: Matthew 7:13-14 and 22:14.

But what exactly is a “Few”?

A “few” could be any figure between 1 and 100 million people, which is still a FEW compared to the +7 billion who are alive on this earth.

Update: Consequently, any nation with 100 million people could easily OUTNUMBER THE JEWS in the new heaven and earth.

Therefore, we know that the JEWS WILL NEVER DOMINATE the new heaven and earth due to their lack of numbers.

Because 144 thousand Jews would stand no chance at all against 100 million Christians in terms of their military and economic manpower.

Therefore, the JEWS WILL NEVER DOMINATE the new heaven and earth due to their small numbers.

Update 2: However, the New Jerusalem will be DOMINATED BY OTHER CHRISTIANS who would vastly outnumber the Jews in the new heaven and earth.

Do you agree or not?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. (Revelation 21: 21-23, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Scripture Has No Ethnicity (05/27/2019); An Irreplaceable Nation State? (12/05/2016); Does GOD Hate Jews? (10/03/2016); Christ Brought A New Nature? (07/15/2015); A Wandering Jew? (04/09/2015); One Faith, One Lord? (09/26/2014); Healing is By Relationship? (09/27/2014); One Root, One Harvest (11/12/2017)

 

black hawk”, within the perfected sanctuary of the heaven and earth made new, meaning for “the number” of Jews will not derive from cultural, material, ethnic and social differences that once existed. There will be no “middle wall of partition” based on kinship and tribe; covenant laws; peculiar observances for offerings and sacrifices; languages and tongues; and determination of fitness to serve divinity through clean and unclean, pure and impure. Even so, there will continue to be diversity in acknowledgment and worship. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Ephesians 2: 11-17, King James Version (KJV): 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

2. Romans 10: 1-4, KJV: 1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

3. Romans 11: 16-24, KJV: 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Ephesians 2: 18-22, KJV: 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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The Shield of Faith

 

Today, a reply is shared on the character and nature of faith as well as on the practice of  Christian believers praying for “more faith.”  Prayer fosters the development of spiritual consciousness; and is a turning of ones awareness and self-will away from the operations of sin to exist having oneness without sameness through the active presence who is GOD.  Often, healing, miracles, signs, and other sacred events thought to be answers and outcomes that follow prayer also may appear following periods of fasting, re-dedication, praise, sacrifice, and unselfish service.  The sacred process of prayer is best understood as the emanating and receiving of sacred substance more than one of dialogue and verbal exchange.  Believers must experience a joining with divine person more than multiple language events to make detailed confessions of need, register complaints, or make requests to satisfy fleshly desires and lusts.  (It is written:  Romans 8:  26, King James Version (KJV):  26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:  for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:  but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.)  For developing believers, prayer should result in assurances and acceptance of divine decisions, rulings, and warnings that can be discerned within their own circumstances and life events.  Prayer will not change, influence, or manipulate the immutable, incorruptible mind of divinity; however, the natural law that governs cycles, episodes and mechanical process can be suspended, or applied in rarely seen and unique combination.  Because angry decisions announced by GOD also are proclaimed in language that is “conditional”, and that may state specific criteria that will trigger the occurrence of a divine deed, prayer can change conditions and levels of readiness among men such that GOD will delay, “repent” and “reschedule” the expression of his wrath.  It requires faith to ask for “more faith;” the great need, then, can be for ability to correctly direct, recognize, and respond to faith that already is in place.  Thus, it was the faith Abraham displayed that GOD acknowledged as his righteousness, and not Abraham’s circumcision.  A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum using the ID “Dan” (Level 3 with 1,906 points, a member since October 27, 2012) posted the following:

 

Praying for more faith?

I’m not a christian, but I recently came across the idea where some christians pray for “more faith”. Could someone explain this to me?

From an agnostic position, this seems kinda silly as I would like to operate on more evidence (which seems impossible) and less faith. Having more faith that the moon is made of cheese seems to do nothing to make the moon more likely to be made of cheese — yet there’s a definite practice of christians praying not to have wishes granted, but to experience yet more faith because it is through faith they can achieve great works (mustard seed stuff).

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:  (Ephesians 6:  10-17, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Knowing What To Believe? (12/31/2017); The Answer From GOD (05/19/2017); The GOD Who Answers? (04/04/2017); Divine Delay and Prayer? (03/22/2017); Teach Me To Pray (03/21/2017); Simple and Mature Faith (09/05/2016); The Silence of GOD (01/31/2016)

 

“Dan”, GOD is a spirit, yet, in academic and worldly settings, we often speak of divinity as though the Creator is one of us—another individual who is carnal, material, secular, and social.  Among mature Christian believers, “faith” may be understood as an aspect of the full, inseparable spirit content (where you find one, you find them all in varying proportion) that is imparted from the makeup of divinity when a sinner repents and turns to Christ to become “born again.”  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Water baptism depicts the unseen sacred process wherein the inborn spirit dies, is buried, and is raised from death.  A “developing believer” results who is a new creation through Jesus Christ, a child of GOD, and a joint-heir with the saints of the kingdom.  All Christians are to display their own endowment of the seed from GOD (one might say, their divine DNA).  Those born-again also must “grow up again,” and become mature by answering life challenges and “growing pains” along with the shared hardships and suffering of life on the earth.

Faith that is a spiritual gift is provided and received as a “double portion,” or second outpouring of divine inheritance.  Petitions and requests ought be made through prayer that faith within the church as a body be edified (built up), nourished, and permitted to complete its purpose and work of salvation without interruption.  Faith must reside within all leaders and on every level throughout the community of faith (e.g., choir members, deacons, parents, prayer warriors).  Faith is not a “coin” for acquiring and purchasing things we may covet and desire that are in the world (e.g., the house, the car, the good job, the spouse).  Faith does not have measurable dimensions (e.g., amount, depth, height, length, weight), for  faith is a spirit substance.  With this in view, as little faith as a mustard seed is not diminished in its divine authority and power.

Because our growth as believers does not go forward unopposed, we speak of the “good fight of faith.”  Certainty, holy boldness, and duration are established through the operations of faith; and our capacity to remain focused having godly expectation (we say, hope) is buttressed and reinforced.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  1st Corinthians 12:  1-11, King James Version (KJV):  1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.  2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.  3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.  4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.  5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.  6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.  7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.  8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;  9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;  10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:  11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

(2.)  Romans 4:  3-12, KJV:  3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.  4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.  5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.  6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,  7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.  8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.  9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.  10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.  11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised:  that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:  12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (3.)  Ephesians 2:  8-10, KJV:  8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.  10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Whether believers can gain faith by reading the Bible is the topic, today.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Thomas” (Level 1 with 59 points, a member since January 19, 2014) posted the following:

 

Will I have more faith in God if I read the bible?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  The same was in the beginning with God.  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  In him was life; and the life was the light of men.  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.  (John 1:  1-5, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Point of Knowledge? (07/06/2014); Points on Bible Study (06/28/2014); What Faith Makes Possible (04/25/2014); Bible and Spirit (04/26/2014); Personality? (04/27/2014); The Nature of Scripture (03/27/2014); Divine Sleep (03/28/2014); The Limit to Believing? (09/16/2013); All Things Possible? (09/17/2013); Believing Everything? (11/23/2012); How To Have Conviction (11/24/2012); Reading Only The Red Part (11/19/2012); According to the Eternal Purpose (11/20/2012)

 

“Thomas”, here are a few points to consider for full Christian understanding:

(1.)  GOD is a spirit who has put forth all created beings and living creatures as well as the spheres of life wherein they exist, and the conditions and terms for their duration.  Faith is a spirit substance within the makeup of GOD that is distinct, yet, inseparable from other divine matter such as holiness, joy, longsuffering, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The living all contain some measure of divinity (we say, breath of life, imparted spirit, the Holy Spirit, utterance) through operations of GOD at Creation.

(2.)  Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers receive a fresh endowment of spirit content through their active acceptance and acknowledgement of his function and identity as the Word.  The Word is an aspect of full divine person (we say, the GODhead), and is an agency (some say, incarnation) whereby full divinity appears and is revealed.

(3.)  When the disciples asked Jesus to give them more faith (he had chided them saying, O ye of little faith), Jesus challenged them to understand that the issue is not about measurable amount or quantity.  Because faith is an aspect of all that GOD is, even where we have faith as little as a grain of mustard seed, believers may move mountains in agreement with divine order and eternal purpose.  Faith must be directed and expressed through actions as well as words.  Thus, hearers also are to be doers of the word.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  When Jesus appeared in the earth, many already had sacred knowledge from the holy writings, however, they were unable to correctly recognize prophecy, or to realize that the ministry of Jesus continued earlier workings of GOD through promise and proclamation.  On more than one occasion Jesus reprimanded hearers (e.g., the chosen disciples; those attending the synagogue; the priests and Levites in the Temple at Jerusalem) for their lack of faith, yet, not for lack of knowledge from the scriptures, or concerning religious customs, rituals, and traditions.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Faith as an imparted, sacred content from GOD is the topic, today.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers Singapore” using the ID “Ben Smallwood” (Level 1 with 98 points, a member since 13 January 2014) posted the following first asked at Yahoo Answers United States:

Faith like a Mustard Seed?

If God says: if you have faith like a mustard seed you can move mountains… then does that mean that i have less faith then a mustard seed?

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Well what i mean is… i cant move mountains… so does that mean i dont even have the faith of a mustard seed? So you guys think i’m taking this to literally then?

Like the Mustard seed just shows something small and that this will grow until i can go through harder tasks (the mountains) as my faith grows :D?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,  To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,  Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.  Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:  That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:  Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:  Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.  (1st Peter 1:  3-9, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Continuously Tested (12/31/2013); Chosen To Serve As Prophets (01/01/2014); Miracles are Sacred Events (12/20/2013); Prayer not Enough? (07/12/2013); A Tree Falls To The South (07/13/2013); Eat His Body, Drink His Blood (03/21/2013); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013)

“Ben Smallwood”, here are a few points based on the Bible that Christian believers also consider when speaking about faith:

(1.)  Faith is part of the spirit content that exists within the full makeup of GOD.  Faith itself consists of only faith, just like holiness consists only of holiness, and righteousness is made up of only righteousness.  As a distinct aspect of divinity, faith is inseparable from holiness, righteousness and all the other aspects of sacred being that include forgiveness, gratitude, humility, longsuffering, love, truthfulness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Faith is not found outside of Divine Person except as dispensations from the GODhead imparted to indwell created beings and living creatures.

(2.)  Thinking in accordance with the flesh, many have asked GOD for greater and for more faith as though the human need for faith is a matter of how much faith or what amount of faith.  It is more correct to understand that faith is dynamic and organic—that faith must act, and thereby, faith must grow as if itself a living person.  Faith must be present and interact with all the other aspects of divinity within ones being.  Thus, measurable dimensions and the size of ones faith are not significant.  For a person’s faith to be known and seen as fruitful, there must be balance, completeness, maturity, and stability.

(3.)  Faith is not the same as belief, confidence, trust or self-awareness.  Those elements appear through the activity of the flesh that includes intellect, logic, and reason.  The many operations of the flesh emerge from appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings) and  sense (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching) as well as emotional and mental process (e.g., fantasy, imagination, recall, discursive thought), and are not from the divine spirit. 

There is far more to be said, properly shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  In the same way the fruit or product of an apple seed should be apples along with more apple seeds, the fruit and harvest from ones faith should be faith.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face:  now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.  (1st Corinthians 13:  12-13, KJV)

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