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Today, reply is on responses from Christians and people of color to increases, and threats of growing support for atheism, disbelief, and skepticism among Whites in America. Such elements as compassion, empathy, shared hardship, and shared service continue to operate as a bonding force among Americans along with ideas of brotherhood and fellowship that act as a lid preventing any overflow of conflict and confusion that might arise from plurality. Even where people of color have suffered discrimination, enslavement, genocide, and other forms of social injustice, they continue to regard it as contrary to their own authentic character and heritage as survivors on the earth to condemn others (no matter how outrageous their offenses) on the basis of skin-color and racial differences. As with Christian believers, there are those who prefer to forgive and forget; there are those who put the needs and well-being of the full community before their own. To abandon hope that others can receive salvation confesses despair, magnifies doubt, and promotes the lack of faith that oneself can be saved. It is written: 1st Corinthians 12: 12-22, King James Version (KJV): 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality who uses the ID “Nine thugs made good” (Level 2 with 285 points, a member since September 07, 2019) posted the following:

 

Does it bother people of color knowing more and more white people are becoming atheists?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. (Acts 17: 24-29, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Why Jesus Comes Back (06/20/2019); A Wall To Sanctify? (01/16/2019); Will There Be Diversity? (10/22/2017); George Washington Owned Slaves (08/17/2017); Laws Favoring the Poor? (03/06/2017); No Less GOD’s Creation (12/01/2016); The Provision Against Racists? (01/19/2016)

 

Nine thugs made good”, the operations of bias, caste, disbelief, ethnic arrogance, lawlessness, prejudice, racism, and sin have long been interwoven and inseparable in the mind of Blacks and other people of color (e.g., Asians, Native Americans, Island peoples). Even so, issues of higher priority now exist for Christian believers, and for many people of color. Included are the Second Coming of Jesus Christ; the fulfillment of end time prophecies; changes to life on earth through global warming; and the frequency of catastrophic weather events. Focusing on our shared needs as the caretakers of the future has released many from the self-contradiction and stupidity that accompanies viewing life in the narrow terms of racial differences. Many are suppressing anger, despair, fear, or resentment; yet, unprovoked distress and confusion continue to be fostered such as we presently see when viewing foreign students and workers. (While in America many Hispanics and Latinos are acknowledged as white-skinned; because they may be immigrants and non-citizens, they also are treated as a minority and non-white.)

In the same way mature Christians are saddened to see the alarming number of young people who leave the church before they have become spiritually adult and mature, people of color recognize that hidden and unannounced changes are occurring in their shared opportunities and possibilities among Americans. The response by the church to its youth must be to become set apart (sanctified), to renew sacred knowledge, and to impart fresh spiritual resources to neutralize dysfunction, underdevelopment, and violence. The response of America to its diverse population also must be to become set apart from the manipulations of politics, and to renew the commitment to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as one undivided Nation.

No one is blind or unfeeling regarding increased imbalance and instability. So to speak, without knowing what to call it, or how to describe it with words, we all can feel within our gut the difference between treatment that is righteous, and treatment that is wicked. Like the poor who are hungry for their own portion, and will use alternative behaviors to project the strength needed for survival, people of color around the world will refuse to overreact, and will continue to advance principles and values for family life, for lasting relationships, and for achieving prosperity. People of color will gladly endorse the standards and values of an America that also acknowledges and conforms to the doctrines and teachings of Christ. Few men who strive for honor and integrity will quarrel against being accountable to others, remaining interdependent, and accomplishing otherwise impossible goals through practices such as team work, mutual support, unselfish giving, and the patient endurance of suffering. All of us can correctly understand that cruelty, exaggerated pride, murder, and selfishness oppose the continued existence of the nation, of all life on the earth, and of life throughout the universe. Angry and bitter thrusts intended to antagonize a single poor man have the profound consequence of also fostering a return to the chaos, confusion, and streams of motion without direction that were in place before the founding of heaven and earth. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a presentation from the music ministry of Steve Amerson:

(1.) 2nd Timothy 3: 1-5, King James Version (KJV): 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

(2.) Galatians 3: 27-29, KJV: 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abrahams seed, and heirs according to the promise.

(3.) Colossians 3: 9-14, KJV: 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended (for example, (4.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPC0iXFGyJM). Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, reply is on whether reading the Bible will strengthen or weaken ones faith. In the same way fellowship within a community of faith (we say, attending church; having a church home; ministering to others; performing godly works and unselfish service) permits a developing believer to be set apart for sacred use and communion with divinity, regular reading and study of the holy writings consecrate and nourish human consciousness and self-will. Benefits, blessing/cursing, correction, guidance, possibilities, and privilege from GOD are established that may not be gained by any other means, or from anywhere else in the world. Because small children and teens often are introduced to the Bible as a collection of adventure tales and bedtime stories, their parents may have failed to realize that the sacred writings provide lessons that children absolutely must receive as they are growing, not after they are grown. There are multiple themes to equip youth for the mature expression of adult accountability, duty, godliness, gratitude, reverence, and suffering. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality, who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shown) posted the following:

 

Christians help! The more I read the bible, the more my faith weakens?

Shall I stop reading the bible before I completely lose my faith in God?

I was born and raised by Christians, and I was blissfully ignorant to the biblical teachings. But now I’m actually reading and studying the bible critically, it’s making me question God and my faith.

I don’t want to lose faith. I don’t want to become an atheist. I just want to be Christian like my family and friends. Is it okay if I stop reading the bible?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. (2nd Peter 1: 2-11, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: How GOD Is Communicating (10/31/2018); The Option of Atheism (02/11/2018); Standing On The ABCs? (11/09/2017); Actual Utterance From GOD? (08/11/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); The Bible and Salvation (09/14/2016); From Cover to Cover? (01/04/2016); On Producing Atheists (03/16/2013); The Children, not the Dogs (03/17/2013)

 

Anonymous”, it would be o.k. if you stopped listening to and participating in academic and literary studies of the Bible. The goal in Christianity is to become Christlike and to commune with divinity, not to fit in with family, friends and other social groups. From the time of Moses, the process of GOD is that of oral proclamation using spokespersons (i.e., prophets), while the use of apostles, scholars and writers have been important for sharing and spreading the revelation from Jesus Christ. Developing believers and full members within the church where Jesus Christ is head are encouraged to acknowledge the holy writings as a source for the nourishment of their own life essence (we say, breath; spirit; word) imparted by divinity through baptism as well as through the hearing of preaching, prophecy, testimony, and witness. The Scriptures should be received as a divine tool that crystallizes and focuses consciousness and self-will for believers. The Scriptures provide the common language and vocabulary for sharing sacred experience along with reference points for comparing (showing sameness) and contrasting (showing differences) among events and for streams of truth that are necessary as the discernment, recognition, and ability to respond to divinity as an active presence.

At all times (start to finish), developing and expressing Christian belief is a sacred process of discovery, gradual growth, and transformation. Sinners who become “born again” also must “grow up again,” and become mature in their sacred knowledge, discipline, and practice as the offspring of GOD, joint-heirs with Jesus Christ, his new creation, and vessels becoming filled with fresh endowments of divine spirit (e.g., faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, wrath against sin).

Those who complain and criticize the Scriptures because they are ancient, because they describe the infirmity and weakness of human consciousness and self-will, or because they speak of Israel and the Jews, usually are operating according to secular knowledge, and are relying on the finite human tools of intellect, logic, philosophy, politics, science, and technology. However, it is the divine law, eternal purpose, immutable truth, and sovereign will of an immortal, incorruptible, invisible Deity that must come into understanding. Embracing the frameworks of time and space yet enduring as forward-looking, Christians carefully examine a record of divinity appearing through thousands of events, within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years. Believers are to apprehend as their own inheritance a treasure made up of counsels, covenant agreements, government documents (chronicles), examples, instructions, praises, sacred process, promises, prophecies, and warnings. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.) Hebrews 11: 6, King James Version (KJV): 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

(2.) Romans 10: 17, KJV: 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

(3.) 2nd Timothy 3: 16-17, KJV: 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (4.) Romans 10: 1-4, KJV: 1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on the requirement of divine knowledge and wisdom among Christian believers.  Souls are won through diligence and love, not by accident, by chance, by bribery, fraud and lies, or through bad luck/good luck.  There must be an appearing of godly power and presence.  Those endowed with spirit substance from the makeup of GOD are used to the divine knowledge and wisdom imparted by the Holy Spirit to those choosing to repent of sins.  Often the operations of sin are initiated through continuing ignorance that is taken to be innocence, rather than by defiance of the law, malice, and rebelliousness.  The eternal purposes of divinity can not be achieved and fulfilled by the servants of the Lord without them having correct sacred knowledge and an ability to apply godliness in practical ways.  The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum using the ID “Blind Freddy” (Level 1 with 2 points, a member since October 01, 2013) posted the following:


The Bible tells us to seek Wisdom (Prov. 4) above all, in God’s word & commandments. Does accumulated knowledge, Atheists aquire,?

amount to Wisdom?
Knowledge & wisdom are not the same

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.  He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame:  and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.  Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee:  rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.  Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser:  teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.  The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom:  and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.  (Proverbs 9:  6-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Bible Language About Spirit? (06/13/2018); Comparing Sacred and Secular (03/15/2018); Salvation By Good Works? (03/08/2018); The Option of Atheism (02/11/2018); Wisdom In A Mystery (11/22/2017); Foolish People and Unwise (10/26/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); Achieving Feats of Righteousness? (05/05/2017); Abstractions, Atheism and I.Q. (08/18/2016)

 

“Blind Freddy”, sinners who acknowledge that they are called to repentance also are to understand they have been recruited to serve as evangelists, priests & kings, teachers, and soul-winners for the Lord.  They must be given and taught to use godly tools that include discernment; empathy; expectation (hope); sacred knowledge in place of secular knowledge; prophecy; the promises of GOD; and divine wisdom.  Through baptism (i.e., death, burial, and rebirth of ones inborn spirit), sinners are to become vessels who contain spirit substance from the makeup of GOD.  Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, righteousness, and wrath against sin.  Where a sinner becomes “born again” they are a new creation through Jesus Christ; even so, they must “grow up again” to become mature/ripe for harvest at the Lord’s Advent (we also say, his appearing; the Rapture; the Second Coming). 

Developing believers are to exist on the earth, and are to rely for their survival on such elements as balance, discovery, fellowship with mature believers, praise, prayer and regular study of the holy writings as well as unselfish service and heartfelt worship.  As the people of GOD living under the sovereign authority of the Creator, believers are to learn to apply sacred law for the resolution of all conflicts and the settlement of all disputes.  Consider again the following points from the Bible:

(1.)  2nd Chronicles 1:  9-11, King James Version (KJV):  9 Now, O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established:  for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude.  10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people:  for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?  11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

(2.)  James 3:  13-18, KJV:  13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.  14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.  15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.  16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.  17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.  18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  2nd Peter 1:  2-11, KJV:  2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,  3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:  4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.  5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;  6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;  7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.  8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.  10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure:  for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:  11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, the reply is on atheist disbelief existing as an aspect of reason and science, yet, being no alternative to acknowledgement, commitment, and faith that respond to the existence of divine fullness.  The problems generated by atheism center on false and logically flawed professions to justify disbelief; the endorsement of pseudo-intellectualism; and the communication, proliferation, and transfer of vanity (the lack of divine content and sacred substance).  Using the disciplines and rules for genuine scientific inquiry, there are multiple times and settings where divinity is an inappropriate hypothetical concept that does not further clarification, discourse, and formal dialog.  In such cases, divinity correctly should be excluded as an unworkable abstraction.  That this is so does not discount the truth that spiritual events and operations require discipline, knowledge, and practice that are sacred in content, operation, and outcome as seen through fasting, prayer, and exorcism.  One of the many fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why is it that by many definitions atheism is very stupid?

Even Carl Sagan said

“An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence. Because God can be relegated to remote times and places and to ultimate causes, we would have to know a great deal more about the universe than we do know to be sure that no such God exist”

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;  And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him:  and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.  He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.  And they brought him unto him:  and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.  And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.  And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him:  but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.  And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.  When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.  And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him:  and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.  But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.  And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?  And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.  (Mark 9:  17-29, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  We Begin Within GOD (02/06/2018); Truths To Live By (02/02/2018); Secular History, Sacred Revelation? (01/11/2018); The Most Important Thing (12/28/2017); Confused By Spiritual Puzzles (11/13/2017); Standing On The ABCs? (11/09/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); About Deluding Yourself? (09/22/2014); Delusions and Revelation (09/23/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, science does not go far enough in reaching all human needs.  Finite carnal reason and logic that serve as the platform for atheist thought are not complex, truly intellectual, or profound.  Simply put, and using common sense terms, two rules prevail:  (1) “seeing is believing;” and (2) the only phenomena of life that is fit for the focus of science must display measurable dimensions (e.g., amount, density, height, length, weight), and must be subject to experimental manipulation.  The human mind is bombarded with enormous amounts of data and information from moment to moment.  Included are signals from organs and tissues that make up the material body, emotions (e.g., anger, fear, sorrow), operations of the mind (e.g., clairvoyance, imagination, recall, thought), and sensations (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching).  There must be principles, rules and standards in place that establish order, determine benefit, and permit the recognition of priority conditions and unmet needs.  

Properly understood, science and its promotion of secular knowledge, is a peculiar accord and covenant for shared meaning, quality, and value that denies and excludes consideration of everything that has divinity as its cause, makeup, origin, and process.  The excellence and usefulness of science turns on its attention to detail through analysis; its establishment of predictability and validity through precise measurement and repetition; and its being able to identify fixed points of reference within complex, hidden, or obscured sequences.  Thus, in the same way children who can recite their ABCs are not foretelling the future, or reading the mind of their teacher when saying the alphabet, yet, they know “XYZ” is coming, science, too, is a limited, plain, and simple element for understanding the fullness of life.  (While children may recite the alphabet perfectly, many still can not read and write.  They must gain skill to perform the routines of combination and permutation used when sounding out or spelling words; and they must practice to develop comprehension.)

Like the frameworks of time and space, secular knowledge is an adjunct, an additional tool, and a further provision from divinity along with sacred knowledge, and is not in place of sacred knowledge.  (Has the automobile completely eliminated the usefulness of a bicycle?)  Mankind has very real, unmet emotional, psychological, and spiritual needs that even medical science does not address.  Included are needs for forgiveness, peace, relief from human error and sin (even scientists are included within the class of “sinners”), respect, and truth that directs and sustains the highest levels for human potential.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  John 4:  24,  King James Version (KJV):  24 God is a Spirit:  and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

(2.)  Romans 10:  1-9, KJV:  1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.  2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.  3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.  5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.  6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)  7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)  8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart:  that is, the word of faith, which we preach;  9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

There are many more verses and passages that could be cited.  (For example, (3. ) Romans 1:  16-22, KJV:  16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is made to the error that Christian belief primarily is intended for those who are simple-minded.  The good news of salvation is to be proclaimed even to those who are despised and poor; however, in no way are we to dilute the message or “dumb-it-down.”  The greater growth will be seen among those having faith and humility above those having title and secular knowledge.  Rather than on the basis of academic achievement, scholasticism, and intellectual sophistication, salvation in Christ is granted on the basis of divine grace, the desperate need of created beings and living creatures to be in a new relationship with divinity, and the willingness of sinners to respond to the Incarnate ministry of GOD.  Direct, plain and unadorned speech are most correct for delivering and marking instruction as  godly and sanctified, and as derived from a consecrated Spirit instead of from the flesh (i.e., appetite, sensation, emotion, imagination).  The  divine message may be simple because its power to change the makeup, nature and substance within the living is profound.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia)” who uses the ID “Anonymous” and refuses to share profile information, posted the following:

 

CHRISTIANS – Jesus hated intellectualism, saying that His message could only be received by the simple-minded. Is this because of the flaws?

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THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.  He answered and said, I will not:  but afterward he repented, and went.  And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir:  and went not.  Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.  For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not:  but the publicans and the harlots believed him:  and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.  (Matthew 21:  28-32, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  On Being Too Smart (04/30/2017); Genuine Spiritual Discernment? (03/27/2017); Knowing What’s In Man (03/15/2017); Abstractions, Atheism and I.Q. (08/18/2016); The Cross and Critical Thinking? (04/13/2016); Academic Language? (12/10/2015); Knowing? (05/24/2015)

 

“Anonymous”, Christianity is one of the most challenging systems of belief and thought that has ever existed.  Many who disbelieve, and count themselves as “atheist” or “scientific” do so thinking they have higher intelligence, and that Christian belief is anti-intellectual.  More correctly understood, Christianity does not condemn exploration, growth, and learning.  Rather, Christian belief opposes death, hypocrisy, ignorance, pretension, presumption, exaggerated pride, and pseudo-intellectualism.  Along with the idolatry that appears when secular knowledge is exalted as equal or superior to sacred knowledge, many who follow human error will display self-promotion that denies the authority and ongoing operations of divinity.  They do not grasp the simple truth that sin does not exist as a material or physical thing, yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.  The operations of sin may dominate awareness and self-will in living creatures and created beings.  By promoting annihilation and non-existence, sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the divine Law Giver, and the divine order that exists as the universe.  The notion that GOD prefers those who are emotional, ignorant or submissive is promoted only by those lacking discernment and their own integrity as born-again believers.  Consider the following from the holy writings:

(1.)  1st Samuel 2:  2-4, King James Version (KJV):  2 There is none holy as the LORD:  for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.  3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth:  for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.  4 The bows of the mighty men are broken, and they that stumbled are girded with strength.

(2.)  Matthew 23:  13, KJV:  13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:  for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

(3.)  2nd Timothy 2:  12-16, KJV:  12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him:  if we deny him, he also will deny us:  13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful:  he cannot deny himself.  14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.  15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  16 But shun profane and vain babblings:  for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

(4.)  1st Timothy 6:  17-21, KJV:  17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;  18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;  19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.  20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:  21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Ecclesiastes 12:  12-13, KJV:  12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished:  of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.  13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:  Fear God, and keep his commandments:  for this is the whole duty of man.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on how atheism, feelings of depression, and self-destruction can be overcome by receiving belief in Jesus Christ.  Secular knowledge and our dependence upon operations and practices from the flesh and the world must be replaced by sacred knowledge and cooperation with the works of divine Spirit.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Singapore)” ID “mrsrobot” (Level 3 with 1,005 points, a member since June 26, 2016) posted the following:

 

How to believe in god?

i feel like life itself has no meaning and everyone can just commit suicide whenever they feel like it. it has been this way ever since i realized i was an atheist ( im quite young) i just want to have faith in something…i want to have faith in god like i used to please tell me what to do?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.  (2nd Timothy 1:  7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Church Attendance and Inheritance (09/11/2016); Simple and Mature Faith (09/05/2016); Not Through Human Will? (01/29/2016); How Can Christians Believe? (08/12/2014); The Sin of Pride? (08/13/2014); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); Science and the Laws of Nature? (03/23/2013); Suffering for Suicide? (12/12/2012); The Price of Humanity? (12/13/2012)

 

“mrsrobot”, be encouraged!  The “believing” you’re talking about can only be put into place by GOD.  Every mature Christian believer has had to endure periods when they felt afraid, confused and uncertain about the importance, meaning, and value of their own lives.  Created beings and living creatures must begin being grounded only in things carnal, material, and social.  A transformation and permanent changes must occur whereby they also may focus upon “spirit”.  Once a sinner  becomes anchored with the understanding that their lives matter to the Almighty Creator, who is spirit, many of the obstacles, sorrows and worries they suffer are permanently overcome, and put behind them.  The process of GOD for a person to have a new experience of life and their own inner makeup is called “becoming born again” and “rebirth” that also require gradually “growing up” again.  While growth (i.e., aging; biological and natural development of ones body, mind, skill, etc.) and learning (i.e., acquiring and using new information; applying finite intellectual tools such as logic, measurement, philosophy, science, and critical thinking) are involved, the most necessary feature is the imparted, indwelling spirit of GOD (we say, the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth).  Inseparable aspects of the divine makeup must be received and applied.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Such spirit content is communicated and passed on through divine law, through fellowship as believers that may include attending church, through the holy writings, through preaching, and through performing good works.  Consider how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Romans 10:  13-17, King James Version (KJV):  13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.  14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?  15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!  16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?  17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

(2.)  John 3:  6-8, KJV:  6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.  8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:  so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

(3.)  1st Corinthians 2:  9-14, KJV:  9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  John 3:  17-21, KJV:  17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  18 He that believeth on him is not condemned:  but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is upon atheism as an approach through formal studies to acquire and exchange secular knowledge in contrast to being in relationship through Jesus Christ to receive sacred knowledge by multiple operations of divinity.  The finite human tools of analysis, intellect, logic, and mental discipline alone have not been enough to release even the most brilliant thinkers among us from sin.  The achievement and fulfillment Christian believers speak of can not be obtained through arrogance, competition, ignorance, self-promotion, or superstition.  Spirit matter and divine process must come into consideration for they are the true sine qua non of wisdom.  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Ette” (Level 1 with 2 points, a member since May 11, 2014) posted the following:

Does atheism elevate the IQ?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:  When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.  Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.  So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.  For some, when they had heard, did provoke:  howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?  (Hebrews 3:  8-17, King James Version, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Rise in Atheism? (07/07/2016); The Cross and Critical Thinking? (04/13/2016); More About the Trinity? (03/30/2015); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); Science and the Laws of Nature? (03/23/2013); How To Love GOD? (03/24/2013); The Price of Humanity? (12/13/2012); Remembering the Holocaust? (12/14/2012)

“Ette”, standard scores for a person’s intelligence reported as their IQ might well be increased through atheism, for atheism is a disciplined approach or framework for philosophical exchange that relies heavily upon carnal, mental, and social process.  Narrowing one’s focus to the material and natural order, atheism denies the metaphysical and suppresses focus upon divinity.  Even so, you can not separate the wet from the water.  Atheism must be regarded as useless as a tool to increase a person’s spiritual awareness; their ability to apply one’s own spirit to discern and respond to divine spirit within events, oneself, other persons, prophecy, etc.; their self-will (we say, will power); or their divine spirit content that should include inseparable elements such as faith, holiness, humility, joy, longsuffering, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Finite tools such as academic discourse, debate, investigation, mathematics, science and technology require focusing upon abstract, immaterial and invisible features, yet, do not permit operational definition of sin, its, elimination, and its removal.  (Thus, we have sinners who also have Ph. D. degrees.)  To develop an ongoing personal relationship with GOD who is a spirit requires a higher level of consciousness that must be imparted as life essence (we say, breath, spirit, word) from the makeup of the Creator.  The indwelling Spirit then generates the necessary system of meanings, standards (we say, divine law), and values.  Consider how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Jeremiah 9:  23-24, King James Version (KJV):  23 Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:  24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth:  for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

(2.)  2nd Corinthians 10:  17-18, KJV:  17 But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.  18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.

(3.)  Romans 1:  18-22, KJV:  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  Titus 1:  15-16, KJV:  15 Unto the pure all things are pure:  but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.  16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, points are shared on atheism, “the great controversy,” and various end-time prophesies from the Bible.  For the Christian believer, atheism is no advance or development to a higher level for mankind; rather, it is a breakdown, collapse, and return to earlier stages of pride and psychological dependency that existed before enlightenment by Jesus Christ through the gifts of Pentecost.  Atheism signals opposition to, and removal of necessary spiritual focus that enables, and ensures the growth and prosperity of mankind will be in agreement with the character, nature, and substance of divinity.  Here, atheism is responded to as the belief that academic study, formal discourse, and science may not legitimately include, or make appeals to concepts of divine agents and authority to explain cause, composition, origin, or process for carnal, natural and social phenomena appearing in the earth.  In denying the existence of divinity, and disqualifying the use of prophecy, atheism also promotes blasphemy, disbelief, iniquity, lack of sacred knowledge (we say, ignorance), persecution of those who express faith, and humanity continuing in bondage to sin.  The accomplishments of modern astronomy, medicine, science, and technology notwithstanding, it remains that the influence and operations of sin can not be correctly identified, completely eliminated, or even successfully resisted relying only upon finite tools that merely give expression to flesh without also acknowledging sacred spirit.  Human history has shown, apart from GOD, such devices as structured debate, empiricism, genius, intellect, logic, rhetoric, and theory will never be enough to remove sin and wickedness from mankind upon the earth.  Consider the following Scripture and the discussion provided below:  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:  and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:  and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.  If any man have an ear, let him hear.  He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity:  he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.  Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.  (Revelation 13:  4-10, King James Version, KJV)  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (required profile information not shared) posted:

 

Christians, now that the gospel is spread to the ends of the earth, what gives with the rise of atheism?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:  see that ye be not troubled:  for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:  and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.  All these are the beginning of sorrows.  Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you:  and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.  And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.  (Matthew 24:  3-14, KJV) 

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Once We Know Better? (07/01/2016); To Study the Book of Judges (09/09/2015); More About the Trinity? (03/30/2015); Salvation for Atheists? (06/14/2013); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); Science and the Laws of Nature? (03/23/2013); How To Love GOD? (03/24/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, while proclaiming eternal purposes, forthcoming sacred events, ongoing divine operations, and the immutable will of GOD, the holy writings also describe the process and responses to divinity that will appear among created beings and living creatures.  Many aspects are reported in detail of what has been called “the great controversy between Christ and Satan.”  Included are the increase of secular knowledge; upsurges of apostasy (falling away), disbelief, false doctrine, and heresy among Christian believers; tribulation; men becoming sealed with marks that identify them as belonging to either Christ or Satan; a Satanic army being mustered; and the removal from the earth of those who are “ripe” for harvest at the appearing of Jesus Christ (some say, the Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  Only those anchored in mature faith that has been nourished from rebirth through sacred knowledge, fellowship with experienced believers, continuing sacred practices (we say, sacraments), unselfish service, and heartfelt worship, will be able to withstand the onslaught against the church during the end times.  The church will even appear to be totally cast down and destroyed, before the indisputable victory of Jesus is acknowledged by all.  Consider again how some of this is stated in the language of the Bible:

(1.)  Daniel 12:  1-4, King James Version (KJV):  1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:  and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:  and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.  2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.  3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.  4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:  many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

(2.)  Daniel 7:  15-16, KJV:  15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.  16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

(3.)  Daniel 7:  19-22, KJV:  19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;  20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.  21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;  22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

(4.)  2nd Timothy 3:  1-5, KJV:  1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,  3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;  5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

There is far more that could be said, must be carefully examined, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (5.)  2nd Timothy 3:  13-17, KJV:  13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.  14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;  15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.  16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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The spirit nature and material substance of GODhead are considered again, today.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “God The Grandpa” (Level 2 with 842 points, a member since May 26, 2014) labeled himself an atheist and attacked using the following:

 

Christians please explain the Trinity to me? i Don’t get it. (read the body of the question please)?

i’m an Atheist, but i was educated jewish.
i want to at least understand what i don’t believe in
Judaism has the 10 commandants.
the first one says “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” that why Jews can’t believe in a human being being a God.

Christians claim to follow the same 10 commandments, but they also believe Jesus, a human being is a God.
and you made up the trinity to explain how they can be one and the same. i just don’t get how it works.

i know one of the basic tenants of Christianity that Jesus is both divine and human. (I learned that in a course on medieval Iconography) that Jesus always existed, even before he was born.
what i don’t understand how they both one and the same, God and his Son. how is not just polytheism?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  (Romans 1:  16-25, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Divine Purpose? (01/08/2015); Catholics, Protestants and the Trinity? (10/12/2014); The Gift of Life Despised? (10/13/2014); Aspects of Divinity? (06/15/2014); Son of Adam and of GOD? (06/16/2014); Focus of Believers? (06/17/2014); Immutable GODhead (03/10/2014); Utterance is Spirit (09/08/2013); A Start for the Idea of GOD? (09/09/2013); GOD the X? (07/19/2013)

 

“God The Grandpa”, your question expresses the serious concern among many Jews, Islamic and Christian believers.  Accept no answer to your question that you can not recognize as coming from GOD and the true revelation of divinity in the earth through divine action that has continuing and enduring effect, and that demonstrates unchanging sacred purpose.  There can be no simple, one-line answer to clarify or dismiss the complexity of sacred knowledge and spiritual operations performed by an exalted deity who has made divinity known by using thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  A focus upon divine law shared in a single covenant (that of Moses) is not adequate, for there are many covenants to be accounted for including that of Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, and Jesus Christ.

Here are a few points that may help release you from the spiritual confusion and sin that now have you bound:

(1.)  The holy writings collected and presented as the Bible accurately describe the origins of the mechanical and natural processes for the existence, reproduction and continuation of material and spiritual created beings and living creatures, their spheres of life (e.g., earth, heaven, the sea, the universe), and the terms for their duration (mortality or immortality).  Presently, only GOD is immortal; and the revelation of GOD uses the frameworks of space and time unfolding through discrete events for the benefit of finite beings.  Any description of GOD not supplied by divinity (such as that given Eve by the serpent) is to be regarded as a lie (we say, blasphemy).

(2.)  Every believer must accept that GOD is a spirit who has emanated material objects endowing some with life (e.g., angels, animals, humans, sacred beasts in heaven, the moon, the planets, the stars).  The substance and makeup of Deity is completely spirit in terms of how it functions and what it may accomplish.  Thus, such ideas as a life time, possibility and power must be spoken of with meanings and values very different from those for considering carnal beings (those having flesh and bone).

(3.)  Discernment (ability to use ones own spirit content to recognize and respond to spirit content within events, messages, other persons, etc.) permits an understanding of divinity that comes by what we would call “synchronization”, whereby the living are in accord, concurrence, harmony, and oneness with divinity.  GOD is the only source of existence, life, and divine spirit.  By appearing incarnate (assuming flesh and blood) as Jesus Christ, new provisions are in place possible only through divinity whereby the animal and human nature of mankind are to be transformed.  Aspects of the divine nature now are to appear and become perfected (we say mature, ripe) upon the earth.  Included are faith, forbearance, gratitude, holiness, humility, longsuffering, love, meekness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

(4.)  Sin and wickedness are not created by GOD, and result from awareness and self-will becoming dominated by corruption (we say, arbitrary, unnecessary, unwanted change; evil); decay; defilement; failure to correctly perform necessary self-correction, self-maintenance, and self-nourishment; loss of divine content; and irreversible rot.

(5.)  Christian believers trust that the fullness of Deity (we say, the GODhead) has appeared through the distinct operations to accomplish multiple goals that transcend the abilities of all finite creatures.  Included are creation from void, birth, death, judgment, eternal condemnation, atonement, forgiveness, peace, rebirth, repentance from sin, resurrection, sanctification, and the final elimination of sin.  Such tools as emotions, intellect, logic, mathematics, philosophy and science accomplish nothing until used by the living who have guidance from GOD.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  For example, (6.)  Many errors have resulted from the “good intentions” of men claiming authority and duty to erase idolatry, punish false worship, and maintain the purity of belief among mankind.  Yet, these have repeatedly shown themselves to be caught in the throes of pride and self-promotion.  They are found to be in no direct, intimate or personal relationship with divinity continued through communion and divine promise with praise, prayer, prophecy, and living sacrifice (“the dead praise not God”).  The false agents from God rarely acknowledge the intangible aspects of divinity such as balance, completeness, immutability, perfection, person, presence, and unity without sameness.  Apart from such revealed truth as the Spirit at Creation, Christ at the Cross, and the body of prophecy proclaiming the Father, there is no clear or correct grasp upon the actual essence who is GOD, who is not made of any material substance having dimension that can be measured such as a cloud, fog, mist, or smoke.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.  Love has spoken.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Addiction and alcoholism are used considering salvation, today.  Also, there is more on entering covenant and having genuine relationship with GOD.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” with the ID “badwolf” (Level 1 with 104 points, a member since September 21, 2013) posted the following originally asked on Yahoo Answers UK & Ireland:

If jesus did for all our sins,how can god then put conditions on that sacrifice.he either died for all or not?

even for my filthy sin of atheism

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TWO “.There are no conditions on God’s forgiveness. But one must believe that Jesus Christ.”.
really….. you don’t see the hypocrisy in that statement

apostle ..sin is sin …are you saying that god sent his son just for the people he thought deserved saved…that you cant change your ways…and even if you did ..you still get refused because of past sins before you came to christs teaching…is that what you are saying

THE BATTLE AXE:  Covenants and Relationships (01/29/2014)—(5.)  There are many peculiar names and phrases to describe the truth that mankind is to exist as a companion to immortal, incorruptible GOD.  Included are children of GOD, eternal life, oneness, new creatures, and vessels of the Holy Spirit.   What Christian believers receive as the record of divine actions that have occurred in heaven and upon the earth on behalf of mankind (the Bible), documents multiple divine interventions, sacred events, and ongoing processes that are making permanent changes in created beings and living creatures.  Mankind is being transformed by divinity to continue its existence as “everlasting.”  Examples and portrayals are provided that depict such elements as awe, decisiveness, humility, incorruption and reverence as well as right relationship taught through apostles, disciples, spokespersons (we say, prophets), faithful stewards, and trustworthy witnesses.  Almighty GOD always will have authority, dominion, glory and sovereignty above all throughout the spheres of existence.  Mankind is to continue in communion with GOD, yet, will never be in sameness as an equal or peer to GOD.  See 1st Timothy 6:  12-16, 2nd Timothy 2:  19-26 and Revelation 2:  10-11, KJV.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?  They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.  Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.  At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.  Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.  Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.  They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.  (Proverbs 23:  29-35, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Mankind Destroyed? (01/24/2014); What Salvation Is (01/25/2014); Bible Justice? (01/26/2014); Life Choices (12/14/2013); That Mortal Children Die? (12/15/2013); So We Could Have Life? (12/09/2013); Can Someone Be Happy? (12/10/2013)

“badwolf”, here are a few points to consider that are shared in the forms of analogy and “parable” that breaks it down for those who are not Christian believers:

(1.)  Salvation that is atonement and propitiation for sins by the shed blood and broken body of Jesus Christ compares to a long-time alcoholic being granted a lifetime supply of milk at no cost.  He (or she) is accountable for their choices to drink milk instead of liquor, and vice versa.  The milk itself does not accomplish a permanent change in attitudes, behavior and conduct so much as does the exercise of faith, godliness, intelligence, and focused self-will.

(2.)  Given that alcoholism and other forms of addiction are self-destructive, interventions by family members and concerned others are only labeled as “oppression” due to immaturity, sickness, and warped understanding.  Atheism and sin are similarly suicidal, for both oppose the operations of divine law, the continued existence of GOD, and all possibility for permanent benefit to the aspects of divine Creation.  The exercise of divine authority in judgment is not a violation of divine love, or of rights and privileges for created beings and living creatures.  Saying this another way:  According to intellect, logic, reason and science, it is stupidity to suggest that “GOD” (meaning the one sovereign, supreme and above all others) can be denied authority and prerogative by those beneath him.

(3.)  Alcoholism (also called “Jellinek’s Disease”) is so difficult to remove because the metabolism and physiology of the patient’s body must be changed, and restored, not simply their diet, their habits, and their knowledge.  Similarly, for salvation, one must be born again from divine DNA, so to speak.  Through baptism provided by the ministries of Jesus Christ, there can be a fresh endowment of divinity.  Included are such inseparable aspects of sacred content as faith, forgiveness, gratitude, holiness, joy, longsuffering (we say, endurance), truthfulness, wisdom, wrath against sin, and zeal.

There is far more to be said, properly shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  For those established in the righteousness of GOD through Jesus Christ, arrogance, haughtiness and foolish pride are also labeled “drunkenness” and “inebriation”.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Lord.  (Proverbs 21:  30, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC