Posts Tagged ‘baptism’

1-john-4_7-8

 

Today, reply is on the sacred meanings for “love” (charity) that are present through the ministry of Jesus Christ. “Jesus” is a Greek-language form for “Yeshua” and means “salvation”. Divine love is communicated through features within a relationship such as accord, accountability, balance, commitment, discipline, forbearance, forgiveness, giving, kindness, redemption, restraint, sacrifice, salvation, unselfish service and suffering, rather than by hugs, kisses, smiles, and tender touches. It is written: Zechariah 7: 8-14, King James Version (KJV): 8 And the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah, saying, 9 Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother: 10 And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart. 11 But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. 12 Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts. 13 Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith the LORD of hosts: 14 But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations whom they knew not. Thus the land was desolate after them, that no man passed through nor returned: for they laid the pleasant land desolate. The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Fred XXOO I” (Level 7 with 62,645 points) posted the following:

 

About Jesus Christ ?

Does Jesus Christ’s name mean Love? ❤️!

And Does Jesus Christ love us? ♥️!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. (Romans 13: 8-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Vessels Filled With Righteousness (11/06/2019); Through Faith And Patience (10/02/2019); They Forgot His Name (08/11/2019); GOD Is With Us (03/15/2019); Love Shown By Divinity (03/08/2019); Holy Boldness and Humility (10/04/2018); Consequences and Divine Love (07/05/2018)

 

Fred XX00 I”, Christians all must learn to use a sacred way of thinking and speaking about love that is very different than what we use to talk about our feelings concerning family, friendship, and romantic partners. The aspect of divine fullness who appeared on the earth using flesh and human form to establish atonement for sin also is to be known and spoken of (i.e., has a name; has a reputation) on the basis of his ministry and works as a prophet, rabbi, and teacher, who demonstrated love as an inseparable element from the makeup of GOD. Other attributes of divinity that Jesus Christ displayed include balance, faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. In the course of seeking to survive captivity, exile, relocation, and scattering, many of the covenant people sought to assimilate and “blend in” with the heathen and idol-worshiping population that was forced to coexist as an empire (e.g., the Assyrians; the Babylonians; the Persians; the Medes; the Romans) through military conquest. Practice and study of the sacred law viewed as an abstract, impartial, and impersonal summation for the “law and the prophets” became the primary focus for continuing and preserving the covenant relationship of promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Covenant relationship with GOD through the life essence (breath; spirit; word) imparted from divinity was scorned as impractical, superstitious, and filled with mysticism. Few correctly understood the concept of perpetual covenant as being a commitment by divinity—who is immortal, incorruptible, and invisible—that would require the end of mortality; the embodiment on the earth of spirit substance imparted from the makeup of GOD; the restoration of eternal life for created beings and living creatures that was previously granted in Eden as well as the transformation of mankind to exist as the children of GOD, divine offspring, joint heirs with Jesus Christ, and the new creation. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a selection from the music ministry of Sandi Patti:

(1.) 1st Corinthians 13: 1-10, King James Version (KJV): 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

(2.) Mark 12: 28-34, KJV: 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

(3.) Galatians 5: 14-23, KJV: 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

(4.) Revelation 1: 4-6, KJV: 4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (5.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pUqJUfi1TQ.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 12:00 PM, November 17, 2019 @ http://www.orthodox-canada.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/1-john-4_7-8.jpg

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

nicodemus testing Jesus

John 3:10, KJV: 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

 

Today, reply is on the “perfection” of water baptism. Full redemption and salvation require believing in Jesus Christ, rather than believing in water baptism alone. Arguments are being made that the doctrine and rituals for water baptism introduced by John the Baptist were imperfect, should be discontinued, and are to be replaced by the practicing and teaching only fire baptism introduced by Jesus Christ. The divine tool of miracles was not a substitute for the sacred gifts later bestowed by the Holy Spirit. The ministry of Jesus was a work of eternal transformation; and it should not be disturbing that his doctrine and practice on the earth changed as he matured in his priesthood. Baptism that was used to identify the Son of the Highest to an agent of GOD from the Temple at Jerusalem is now used to identify the members of his body to one another. It is written: Acts: 18: 24-28, King James Version (KJV): 24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly. 27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace: 28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality using the ID “Norine” (Level 1 with 11 points) posted the following:

 

Re: Acts 18:25-26 Why would Jesus allegedly command disciples to “Go baptize” with an IMPERFECT water baptism in Matt 28:19?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. And all the men were about twelve. (Acts 19: 1-7, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: A Complete Divine Revelation (11/15/2019); Why Do They Sing? (11/14/2019); Aspects of Full Righteousness (11/01/2019); By Death and Resurrection (10/29/2019); The “History” Of Christ (10/08/2019); Divinity Embodied In Flesh (12/30/2018); The Increase of Christ? (12/07/2018)

 

Norine”, water baptism is like one of the most precious jewels appearing on the crown of a monarch. The full majesty, meaning, and value for the royal diadem goes beyond the brilliance, or the physical dimensions of size and weight from a single gemstone. Similarly, the works of John the Baptist stood out as departures from the covenant of Moses, practice among the priests of the Temple community, and the traditional doctrines of absolution, atonement, forgiveness, and repentance. Water baptism was “perfect” in itself given that baptism is a sacred tool that is not intended to provide the full work of redemption, revelation, and salvation without the living sacrifice, and the shed blood of divinity appearing on earth in human flesh (i.e., the Incarnation; the crucifixion of Jesus Christ). In fact, John explained that baptism was a device being used by the Holy Spirit to make visible the anointing and virtue of the Prophet that would come who had been proclaimed by Moses. Once Christ was publicly ordained in the witness of John, everything could be clearly seen as in transition: a new covenant law, a new kingdom, and a new process imparting life through resurrection from the dead, rather than by birth from the womb. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a selection from the music ministry of Sandi Patti:

(1.) John 1: 32-34, King James Version (KJV): 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

(2.) John 3: 1-7, KJV: 1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(3.) Mark 16: 14-16, KJV: 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

(4.) Romans 8: 5-9, KJV: 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, (5.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcC2x0go5R8.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 7:40 AM, November 17, 2019 @ https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-849uH3xJLGU/T6BVrfO8tPI/AAAAAAAADLE/

M9jC6Td_KoU/s1600/nicodemus1.jpg

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

He Suffered Him

 

Today, reply is to the challenge that the ministry of John the Baptist centered on water baptism, repentance and sin, rather than exhorting men to have faith (indwelling spirit) that the promises of GOD to Abraham are being fulfilled. When baptized by John, Jesus was not declared free of sin so much as Jesus was proclaimed the Son of the Father, and the lawful primary heir of GOD. As the Son of Man, Christ is heir to all the divine promises from Adam to Abraham, to Moses, to David. From the time of Adam, there have been sacred demands and requirements (i.e., the law) with righteousness appearing as forbearance. In addition to the righteousness within ordinances, principles, and statutes, there are the righteousness for outcomes of tribunal, the resolution of dispute, and the settlement of conflict. Also, there are righteousness of accountability, agreements, division of labor, sacred gifts, guidance, hope (expectation), and promises. It is written: Galatians 3: 16-19, King James Version (KJV): 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Norine” (Level 1 with 68 points) posted the following:

 

What rigtheousness did Jesus fulfill with a “Repentance; believing that Jesus was coming” water baptism (Matt 3:15; Acts 19:4)?

Updated 17 mins ago:

JOHN’S BAPTISM

IS DEFINED AS ONE OF “REPENTANCE; BELIEVING THAT JESUS WAS COMING” IN ACTS 19:4.

JESUS SAID IN MATTHEW 3:15 THAT HE WAS BEING WATER BAPTIZED BY JOHN

“TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.”

WHAT RIGHTEOUSNESS DID HE FULFILL SEEING THAT HE WAS “SINLESS” (HEB 4:15) AND DIDN’T NEED TO “REPENT” NOR DID HE NEED TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS COMING?”

WHAT WAS THIS “RIGTHEOUSNESS THAT JESUS FULFILLED” (MATTHEW 3:15)?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. (Romans 8: 3-5 , KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Righteousness Of GOD (10/25/2019); Divine Fullness Is Spirit (09/11/2019); Life Because of Righteousness (08/29/2019); Why Punishment After Death? (11/23/2018); Repentance Among Christian Believers (07/06/2018); Jesus Came To Fulfill? (01/16/2018); Thoughts On The Commandments (06/27/2017)

 

Norine”, law containing prohibitions and sanctions that must be observed by created beings and living creatures for them to have continuing relationship with divinity did not begin with Moses and the Ten Commandments (we also say, the covenant law; the Decalogue ; the Oral Law; the law written on tables of stone by the finger of GOD). Divine order that gave direction, form, and lasting purpose to heaven, the earth, and all Creation was put forth as multiple expressions of sacred commitment, divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and sovereign will that were manifested and operated as law. The character, process, and substance of divinity define and describe all things emanated and put forth by the Godhead that may display existence, life, personhood, the image of GOD, sacred seed (we also say, divine DNA), Christ-likeness, and the lasting imprint of divine fullness. Inseparable aspects of divine totality and wholeness include faith, forbearance, holiness, hope, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Where forgiveness, love, mercy, and reconciliation are not proclaimed by the law as are penalty and punishment, their source and origin are no less the operations and substance of GOD. Where the integrity and full righteousness of divinity at first were hidden and invisible, the word of GOD (we also say, breath; spirit; utterance) has appeared among men on the earth through active presence, correction, divinity Incarnate, promise, prophecy, reconciliation, and impartial judgment; and will also be manifest as the second death. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a selection from the music ministry of Wintley Phipps:

(1.) Isaiah 51: 6-8, King James Version (KJV): 6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished. 7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings. 8 For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool: but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.

(2.) Romans 3: 21, KJV: 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

(3.) Romans 4: 13, KJV: 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

(4.) Romans 8: 4, KJV: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

(5.) Philippians 3: 9, KJV: 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended (for example, (6.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEU0LrBemek.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 6:45 AM, November 01, 2019 @ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwJjLxDUAAAFCsx.jpg

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

sunset_2

 

Today, reply is on baptism as a divine witness displaying the character and makeup of divinity, resurrection, eternal life, and righteousness, rather than ceremonies, exercising authority over others, obedience, and the letter of the law. The forms of baptism depict a range of sacred operations that include absolution, atonement, judgment, refreshing, remission for sin, and restoration. Baptism does not complete the full transformation and perfecting of mankind to exist as immortal and incorruptible. Even so, the importance and sacred value of baptism is on record as inarguable. It is written: 1st John 5: 9-12, King James Version (KJV): 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Norine” (Level 1 with 11 points, a member since October 01, 2019) posted the following:

 

Why when knowing only the baptism of John when there is a more perfect way of God do you continue in water baptism (Acts 18:25-26)?

Update: JOHN SAID IN JOHN 1:33

“…HE SENT ***ME*** TO BAPTIZE WITH WITH WATER…[BUT] THE SAME IS ((( HE ))) WHICH ((( BAPTIZETH ))) WITH THE HOLY GHOST.”

ACTS 19:4 SAYS “JOHN BAPTIZED WITH WATER WITH A BAPTISM OF ((( REPENTANCE ))) >>>BELIEVING THAT JESUS IS COMING”<<<

IS THAT WHERE TODAY’S “CHRISTIANS” ARE; >>>”BELIEVING THAT JESUS IS COMING”<<< CONTINUING IN A BELIEF OF A WATER BAPTISM THAT WAS DONE ((( UNDER THE LAW )))???

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (John 5: 31-39, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Through Faith And Patience (10/02/2019); Following The Apostle Paul (09/24/2019); Now Are Ye Light (09/18/2019); Focus On Things Revealed (09/12/2019); Life Because of Righteousness (08/29/2019); Our Displays of Divinity (06/19/2019); Baptism Is Not DIY (05/28/2019); The Testimony From Jesus (08/05/2016)

 

“Norine”, trusting that yours is a case of “gradual growth,” not one of “ever learning and never coming into the knowledge of the truth,” the continuation of water baptism among mature Christian believers is established by “the testimony of Jesus.” All who tarried in the Upper Room, and received the gifts of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, first received water baptism, just as Jesus himself. Baptism that appears by the operations and visitation of the Holy Spirit is distinct from that carried out and performed as a ceremony and ritual manifesting the faith of men. The two are not interchangeable, nor does one cancel the other. In the same way multiple gifts of the Spirit are bestowed by divinity within the church that do not annul or eliminate divine law, adoption of the Spirit and other sacred operations complement one another, and are to edify the church. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.) Matthew 3: 13-17, King James Version (KJV): 13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

(2.) 2nd Corinthians 5: 20-21, KJV: 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

(3.) Romans 10: 2-4, KJV: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Revelation 19: 9-11, KJV: 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 2:46 AM, October 06, 2019 @ https://www.pccmonroe.org/from-death-unto-life.html

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

Baptism and Fire

The image depicts Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego purified in the fiery furnace.

 

Today, reply is on salvation for sinners being primarily through the life and works of Jesus Christ, rather than by a believer’s own experience of water or fire baptism. The name of Jesus (i.e., his completed, ongoing, and yet to be finished works that are the basis of his reputation as sent from GOD) is to be acknowledged as a full and sufficient divine provision for remission of sin on earth as it is in heaven. It is written: Acts 4: 12, King James Version (KJV): 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Norine” (Level 1 with 97 points, a member since October 01, 2019) posted the following:

 

How do we reconcile TWO baptisms into “one” (Ephesians 4:5) when there’s a water baptism and a Holy Spirit baptism?

Update: @ANON

JESUS SAID IN MARK 16:16 >>>”HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM”<<<

>>>”SAVES!”<<<

OTHERWISE YOU ARE

>>>”DAMNED!”<<<

YOU JUST TOLD JESUS TO “SHUT UP” WHICH IS “BLASPHEMY” (MATTHEW 12:31-32)

AND ARE

>>>”DAMNED!”<<<

“REPENT!”

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (1st Corinthians 3: 11-15, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Baptism Is Not DIY (05/28/2019); Offering Yourself To Christ? (12/27/2018); Preparing For The Rapture (11/09/2018); Baptism, Rebirth, and Resurrection (09/18/2018); When Speaking Of Christlikeness (06/25/2018); The Church Of Jesus (06/18/2018); The Household Of Cornelius (05/17/2018)

 

Norine”, there are only one baptism and one resurrection from death that can be acknowledged as joining mankind to divinity in rebirth, redemption, and salvation. Just as the presence of Jesus Christ within the fiery furnace preserved the companions of Daniel (Shadrach Meshach and Abednego), those who would have forgiveness for sin and reconciliation to GOD must have the presence of Christ in the life. Consciousness and self-will (willpower) within sinners and developing Christian believers must undergo permanent changes through operations of the Holy Spirit so that they completely abandon the inborn, self-centered process of heart and mind that is an obstacle to realizing the new creation. While all are to be held accountable for the fruitage they themselves produce by word and deed, they also must come to the sacred knowledge that atonement for sin, and the fresh endowment of life essence (breath; spirit; word) available from divinity are gifts bestowed on the basis of lovingkindness, divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of GOD. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible, and a presentation on readiness for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ from the music ministry of Debra Barnes and the Barnes Family:

(1.) Hebrews 6: 1-3, King James Version (KJV): 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit.

(2.) Romans 6: 3-13, KJV: 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

(3.) Colossians 2: 8-13, KJV: 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended (for example, 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHQULXLmfl0). Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 11:18 AM, October 01, 2019 @ https://vineyardmsa.org/baptism-in-fire/

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

I Press Towrd the Mark

 

Today, reply is on new life and salvation for mankind by becoming joined to divinity through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The holy writings acknowledge the dead that have gone to the grave and are no longer among the living as well as a class among sinners and those pursuing pleasure who are “dead while they live.” Developing and mature Christian believers increasingly acknowledge that the church founded through the Incarnation of divinity as Jesus of Nazareth is now in a spirit process where new life is bestowed on us through the resurrection of Jesus, rather than the through the human operations of conception and birth. While sinners must undergo the death and burial of their inborn spirit in baptism, they also must be “made alive” and revived by receiving fresh endowments of the same life essence (breath; spirit; word) that was imparted to Adam. So to speak, by receiving divine DNA, and becoming vessels of seed from the makeup and substance of GOD, sinners are to become sons and daughters of GOD, joint heirs with Jesus Christ, and the new creation. Those who become “born again”, must “grow up again” to become mature/ripe for harvest by the Lord at his coming. Following the close of the tribunals for their judgment, the final transformation of those belonging to Christ will occur as they go to meet him in the air. It is written: 1st Corinthians 15: 50-57, King James Version (KJV): 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “norine” (Level 1 with 5 points, a member since July 12, 2019) posted the following:

 

Seeing we are born “dead spirit” (Rm 5:12) “A quickening Spirit” (I Cor 15:45) Does the “POWER” (Acts 1:8) with HS baptism (Acts 1:5)…?

Update: QUICKEN US BACK TO LIFE???

EPHESIANS 2:1 SAYS

“AND YE HATH HE >>>QUICKENED<<< WHO ((( WERE ))) DEAD IN YOUR TRESPASSES AND SINS.”

DID THE “POWER THAT CAME UPON US” (ACTS 1:8) WITH HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM (ACTS 1:5)

“QUICKEN US BACK TO LIFE” (EPHESIANS 2:1) OTHERWISE WE REMAIN DEAD SPIRITS (ROMANS 5:12; I CORINTHAINS 15:21-22)?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. (Romans 8: 5-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Paying For Our Sins? (08/20/2019); We Must Acknowledge Christ (08/08/2019); Death Used in Salvation (06/28/2019); Known By Spiritual Fruit (03/06/2019); Satisfying Creation and Law (01/22/2019); The Increase of Christ? (12/07/2018); Baptism, Rebirth, and Resurrection (09/18/2018); Rebirth, Growth and Transformation (09/29/2017)

 

norine”, the increase of Jesus foretold by John the Baptist includes the shift from new life by water baptism to new life by the power of Christ’s resurrection. Unlike those who are unrepentant, who practice iniquity, those accepting the forbearance and forgiveness of divinity continue will be in reconciliation throughout their transition to be Christ-like. Both sinners and Christians must be transformed by operations of the Holy Spirit to exist as life companions with GOD who is immortal, invisible spirit. There must be a simultaneous action within the frameworks of time and space whereby life is imparted and introduced at the same time death that releases from sin occurs. Even so, developing believers are not yet perfected. The church is to be built up and edified by enduring “growing pains” and life challenges. Believers are to remain on the earth displaying spirit substance from the makeup of GOD having godly lifestyles and daily routines of discovery, gradual growth, praise, prayer, sacred practice, study of the holy writings, unselfish service, and suffering. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Romans 6: 3-7, King James Version (KJV): 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

2. 1st Peter 2: 21-25, KJV: 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 3. Philippians 3: 7-14, KJV: 7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. 12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Image downloaded 9:55 AM, August 29, 2019 @ https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c3/e9/0b/c3e90b18b06e9aa3142af32093e991b9.jpg

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

The Ethiopian Baptized

The Evangelist Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch receiving the Gospel

 

Today, reply is on the use of faith as a standard to determine the correctness of spiritual presentations, and developing discernment to consistently grasp spiritual meaning, quality, and value. Sinners who turn to Jesus Christ in repentance are like infants and newborn babes who must come to correctly recognize their own parents and those in affiliation as family. At first there may be displays of indifference and rejection, because everyone is a stranger. All developing believers start out operating in terms other than genuine spiritual knowledge and experience, and must be built up and edified through the Holy Spirit. Redemption and salvation are not one-time events so much as a continuous and ongoing stream of events. This makes it that believers will experience discrete episodes of discovery and growth, yet, will not have complete and full understanding. Believers are able to accept a condition of partial knowledge because there is a condition of full commitment and trust. Grace has been bestowed on those who follow Christ, and serves as an earnest or “good-faith payment” of their coming transformation and eternal rewards. It is written: 1st Corinthians 13: 9-12, King James Version (KJV): 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality, who uses the ID “Rolando C I” (Level 6 with 18,913 points, a member since April 29, 2008), posted the following:

 

Why does the king james Bible include Acts 8:37 ?

And other translations exclude it ?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. (Hebrews 4: 12-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: We Must Acknowledge Christ (08/08/2019); The Requirements for Relationship (06/30/2019); Recognizing Holy and Unholy (01/31/2019); We Have To Believe? (01/06/2019); The Word From GOD (12/11/2018); By Reading The Bible? (11/18/2018); Knowing What To Believe? (12/31/2017); From Cover to Cover? (01/04/2016); Translation, Please… (01/11/2013); Why So Much Murder? (01/12/2013)

 

Rolando C I”, in context, the verse you refer to presents a clear, yet not full declaration of the faith a Christian should express (Acts 8: 35-38, King James Version (KJV): 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.)

For me, the following presentation conveys the same declaration: Gevurot 8: 35-38, Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB): 35 And having opened his mouth, and beginning from this keta (section) of the Kitvei Hakodesh, Philippos began to preach and fier ois (elucidate) Yehoshua/Yeshua to him. 36 And as they were going along the derech, they came upon some mayim and the eunuch says, “Hinei, mayim! What prevents me from being given Moshiach’s tevilah of teshuva in the mikveh mayim?” 37 [And Philippos said, “If you have emunah b’chol levavcha, it is mutar. And he answered, saying, Ani ma’amin ki Rebbe Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua Ben HaElohim hu.] 38 And he commanded the chariot to stop and both went down into the mikveh mayim, both Philippos and the eunuch, and Philippos gave him Moshiach’s tevilah of teshuva in the mikveh mayim.

Where sinners begin their return to GOD through Jesus Christ by embracing instruction from the holy writings, many become convinced that they must continue using only the exact wording and precise presentation they were first shown. As developing Christian believers, they want to be alert and on guard against spiritual confusion that accompanies the use of materials and messages from sources that may be in conflict, that are not biblical, and that have questionable origins. Rather than respond to the holy writings relying on finite academic, scholarly, and secular tools such as intellect, logic, philosophy, and science, the Christian believer is to apply sacred standards of faith and other spirit matter imparted from the makeup of divinity. Included are forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Believers are to practice discernment wherein their own fresh deposit of life essence (breath; spirit; word) from divinity enables them to recognize and respond to the same spirit substance (we also say, the image of Jesus Christ) as it appears within events, other persons, themselves, the holy writings, etc. Consider the following from the Bible:

1. Hebrews 5: 12-14, KJV: 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Yehudim in Moshiach 5: 12-14, OJB: 12 For indeed by this time you ought to be [rabbininic] morim saying shiurim, but instead you have need again to be taught the orthodox Jewish basic ikarim (principles, essentials) of the Divrei Hashem, and you have become one having need of cholov and not solid okhel. 13 For everyone partaking of cholov is unacquainted with HaDivrei Tzedek, for he is an olel (infant).  14 But solid okhel is for the mevugarim (mature ones, adults), the ones whose keilim (faculties) have been trained by practice for distinguishing both HaTov and HaRah. [T.N. In the next chp a warning is given to the Messianic Jew who re-submits Yehoshua to re-trial and reassigns the original verdict of deceiver: no re-rebirth, no rerepentance for such shmad]

2. 1st Corinthians 12: 3, KJV: 3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Kehillah in Corinth 1, 12 : 3, OJB: 3 Therefore, I make known to you that no one speaking by the Ruach Hakodesh of Hashem says, “Al Yehoshua ki Cherem hu” (“a curse of the ban of destruction is on Yehoshua”), and no one is able to say, “Yehoshua hu HaAdon” except by the Ruach Hakodesh.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 3. 1st Corinthians 2: 14, KJV: 14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Kehillah in Corinth 1, 2: 14, OJB: 14 But a natural person does not receive the things of the Ruach Hakodesh of Hashem, for they are narrishkait (foolishness 1:21-24) to him, and he is not able to have personal saving da’as of them, because they are discerned in the Ruach Hakodesh.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB). Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Artists for Israel International.

Image downloaded 10:45 AM, August 14, 2019 @ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/d8/30/99d8300d2dbb73003cae2a2ead236d00.jpg

 

Signature Mark

THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC