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That was in Christ

 

Today, reply is on Christian believers having the divine perspective (i.e., being able to see the same sacred changes and divine process within themselves that divinity will see through the operations of judgment and Spirit). Every Christian believer comes to discern and recognize where they themselves are located within the sacred point of view and divine perspective. A confession that the divine nature is present within ones own life is not the result of brooding, introspection, self-examination, and efforts for self-improvement. Despite affliction, hardship, sickness and suffering, many Christians will affirm that the truth is certain and indisputable: divinity nonetheless is operating within their lives today. Proclaiming the authority and authenticity of the Scriptures, they declare: God said it; I believe it; that settles it. Awareness of invisible, unseen divinity being active and present within ones life requires a fresh endowment of imparted spirit substance from the makeup of GOD along with the development and maturity of ones spiritual consciousness: “You must be born again;” and those “born again” must “grow up again.” Balance, consistency, impartiality, and stability increasingly must operate within the many aspects of a believer such as their expectations, their lifestyle, purposes, and daily routines. It is written: Romans 8: 15-17, King James Version (KJV): 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. The fighter in the Religion and Spirituality public forum at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “✞ 2 …hunter” (Level 7 with 45,461 points, a member since August 18, 2011) posted the following:

 

How does one know that they are growing spiritually?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3: 7-14, King James Version, KJV:

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Areas Where Change Appears? (10/24/2018); Claiming To Know GOD? (09/14/2018); The Meaning of “Faith” (03/28/2018); Certainty, Conviction and Faith (01/05/2018); Diversity and Divine Purpose (08/28/2016); Knowing? (05/24/2015); The Scriptures and Perfection? (10/27/2014); To See With New Eyes (11/06/2012); A Life Companion? (11/07/2012)

 

“✞ 2 …hunter”, because Christian believers are in an ongoing divine process of transformation where their consciousness and self-will are being permanently changed so they will eternally exist as companions to divinity, their present “knowing” and “self-awareness” also undergoes shifts and transitions. Rather than rely on behavioral, carnal, material and social “evidence”, developing believers eventually depend on such elements as certainty of divine righteousness; conformity to divine word appearing in such forms as holy writings, divine law, proclamation, promise, prophecy and revelation; and conviction that immutable, unchanging principles are continuing as standards that describe the life condition of those following Christ through operations of divinity that can not be influenced or interrupted by finite actors and human events. Consider again the following that uses familiar language from the Bible:

1. Philippians 2: 5-11, King James Version (KJV): 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

2. Romans 8: 5-9, KJV: 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 3. Romans 8: 28-30, KJV: 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Hebrews 11-6

Today, a declaration of personally-held faith is shared in reply on the importance of belief in Jesus Christ for ones salvation. While many insist that salvation occurs only on the basis of works completed by divinity, human expression repeatedly presents believing as an act of human will, and a work completed by those in the flesh. So to speak, believers are not saved by their own works; they are privileged to benefit and experience the works of GOD that allow mankind to display the divine nature. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “I trust the count” (Level 7 with 278,586 points, a member since March 02, 2006) posted the following:

 

Is just believing in Jesus Christ alone for my Salvation enough to get me to Heaven?

I do believe that Jesus Christ has died on the cross for my sins I deserve to be punished for so I can have Eternal Life

Is that enough to get me to Heaven?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2: 8-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Believing That GOD Is (06/24/2019); Displaying Faith Through Works (03/04/2019); We Have To Believe? (01/06/2019); Become Like Jesus Christ? (10/27/2016); Belief, Content And Works? (02/12/2016); Not Through Human Will? (01/29/2016); By More Than Believing (12/04/2015)

 

I trust the count”, your question requires responses that clarify and explain another person’s faith, rather than man-made things, and is not really a simple matter because we must experience faith (a substance from the full makeup of GOD) as a sacred process of continual change, development, and growth. Those who become “born again” must also “grow up” again, for they must undergo a total transformation to exist as mature/ripe life companions (offspring) of divinity. Sharing faith in a way that is complete and correct requires multiple explanations; and the words we use often fuel and permit spiritual confusion. Even so, there is much we can share that you may find helpful.

It is not enough just to have facts about Jesus Christ, academic instruction, and secular knowledge regarding events from the ministry of Jesus on the earth. The content and process of ones consciousness, personhood, sense of eternal purpose, and self-will (willpower) must be permanently altered by the presence and operations of divinity. The living must acknowledge the gifts and works provided from GOD for salvation by receiving and responding to multiple sacred influences. In addition to using material and physical creation to appear to the living, divine fullness (we also say, the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) imparts and uses inseparable aspects of unseen life essence (breath; spirit; word) to communicate, exchange, and interact with Creation. Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Sinners who properly turn to GOD seek a new relationship through new commitment, discipline, and discernment. Through divinity incarnate as Jesus Christ, “life” is not simply through the forms of conception and birth; it is also by rebirth and resurrection. With the goal of becoming Christlike, and correctly displaying the image of GOD through their own lifestyle and daily routines, developing believers continue discovery, gradual growth, learning, obedience, respect, restraint, reverence, unselfish service, and suffering. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Hebrews 11: 5-7, King James Version (KJV): 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

2. John 11: 21-27, KJV: 21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. 22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. 23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 3. Romans 6: 3-11, KJV: 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Be Still and Know

 

Today, reply is on whether “believing” there is GOD is a matter of acknowledging a broad range of attributes and characteristics (e.g., authority, ethnicity, faith, lovingkindness, personhood, power, race) that require meaningful human responses, or is a simple act of definition for a common object in the life of mankind. According to Christian beliefs, as an emanation from divinity and a creation of GOD, the completeness, integrity, and quality of human existence and life for mankind should vary as a function of divine prerogative, sacred law, eternal purpose, and sovereign will. Thus, it is written: Malachi 1: 6-10, King James Version (KJV): 6 A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name? 7 Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the LORD is contemptible. 8 And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts. 9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts. 10 Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Wisecracker” (Level 05 with 9,341 points, a member since April 07, 2019) posted the following:

 

Believing in God means more than simply acknowledging His existence. Agree or Disagree?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts? And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered. Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. (Malachi 3: 13-18, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: According To Divine Purpose (06/09/2019); From Spirit Not Mud (02/26/2019); That GOD Is Judge (11/01/2018); The Origin And Source (04/26/2018); Sacred Operations By GOD (04/12/2018); What Is A Spirit? (03/06/2018); The Meaning of Worship? (07/09/2014); To Serve GOD Acceptably (07/10/2014)

 

Wisecracker”, correctly understood, many take “believing” in GOD to be only an emotional, intellectual, and mental process. In fact, however, acknowledging and responding to GOD are operations that depend on spirit process and substance. Where a person thoughtfully reflects on divinity (we also say, divine fullness; the Godhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) as being more than another physical object like themselves that definitely has existence, and might also have life, the method and process to make an accurate and complete consideration involves posing multiple questions, pursuing patterns of logical connection, and organizing all the data one may collect to provide a clear presentation of ones process and findings. Academic descriptions, information about “the gods” and reports on their activities will be very different from those presentations shared as priestly sacraments, revelation, and utterances from divinity to maintain communication, exchange, and interaction with mankind.

For many, Christianity has been the most challenging belief system that shares the thoughts and words from divinity to make divine fullness knowable, known, accessible, and approachable. Included have been divine law; covenant relationship; and the appearance of GOD through thousands of events, within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years. While divinity ordinarily exists as inseparable spirit substance (e.g., faith, holiness, forbearance, forgiveness, gratitude, humility, personhood, oneness without sameness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin), divinity also has appeared on the earth as Jesus Christ using the forms and operations of human flesh (we say, the Incarnation).

The character, process, and substance of divinity is Spirit; therefore, GOD is held to be boundless, limitless, and without measurable dimensions. More than this, GOD is the origin for all that exists, for order throughout the universe as well as for all that have life. In Christian belief, it is possible for created beings and living creatures that have consciousness and self-will to receive benefits and privileges sharing relationships with GOD that become possible through spirit substance imparted from the makeup of GOD, divine law, sacred promises, prophecy, eternal purpose, and the sovereignty of GOD. Through devices such as Incarnation, the use of anointed spokespersons (we say, prophets, kings, apostles), the establishment of governments and nations, and the founding of a church on the earth, the existence of GOD is experienced as that of a sentient being who determines multiple aspects of human duration and survival. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Hebrews 11: 6, King James Version (KJV): 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

2. Isaiah 55: 6-12, KJV: 6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

3. Hosea 6: 5-7, KJV: 5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth: and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth. 6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. 7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Jeremiah 9: 23-24, KJV: 23 Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: 24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Body Without Spirit

 

Today, reply is on two Scriptures that are to be read with a view to the doctrine that faith without works is dead. The two verses contrast believing and doing while also calling into understanding the perverseness of impenitence and willful sin (iniquity), the integrity of genuine relationship with divinity, and the essential operations of divine faith, grace, redemption, righteousness, and salvation. Even where they are unstated, and do not appear plainly written within the wording for a specific Bible verse or passage, mature Christians are ever to acknowledge that what is written also serves as the declaration of divine prerogative, sacred promise, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of GOD. There are two forms of works that make faith visible: sacred works (e.g., confession; forbearance; forgiveness; praise; intercessory prayer) and secular works (e.g., caring for orphans and widows; feeding the hungry; giving shelter to the homeless). The two both appear through operations of the Holy Spirit; are necessary to each other being sound and whole; and they ought not be compared, or assigned value as though they are competing against one another. John 3: 15-16, King James Version (KJV) reads : 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Matthew 7: 21-23, KJV reads: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “I trust the count” (Level 7 with 276,857 points, a member since March 02, 2006) posted the following:

 

Jesus claims everyone who believes in Him will be saved according to John 3:15-16, what about the people in Matthew 7:21-23?

Are the people in Scriptures John 3:15-16 the same people as those in Matthew 7:21-23?

What is so different about the people in John 3:15-16 and Matthew 7:21-23?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4: 3-5, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: We Have To Believe (01/06/2019); Known By His Fruit (11/04/2018); Ye That Work Iniquity (09/24/2018); “I Never Knew You” (03/23/2018); Attending Church a “Chore”? (01/23/2018); Praying For “More Faith”? (01/12/2018); The Savior of “All”? (08/22/2017); Salvation By Faith Alone? (01/19/2017); Many Are Called… (10/15/2015)

 

I trust the count”, the two scripture passages (group of verses) you present must be understood on the basis of their fit with other teachings. The power and process of life in Christ must come into view as more than intellectual content, emotions, ideals, good intentions, thoughts, or finite self-will. There also must be action, obedience to divine law, performing the righteousness within the law, and completing unselfish works. The Bible is a special collection and library of sacred books that preserve the divine law, doctrine, guidance, instruction, and principles provided from divinity (we also say, the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) so that created beings and living creatures may exist in continuing relationship as life companions to GOD. Therefore, the holy writings include such features as parables, praises, prayers, promises, prophesies and visions. Because the sacred knowledge shared within the Scriptures has been gathered by multiple writers, from thousands of events that occur within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years, there are multiple presentations of the same point of understanding that emerge from diverse aspects of focus, and that may use different language. To properly acknowledge all of the various requirements that must be met to receive the full benefit and privilege available to the offspring of GOD, a sinner must become a developing Christian believer who will be made mature/ripe for harvest by Jesus Christ at his appearing (we also say, the Advent; the Rapture; the Second Coming). Those who will meet the Lord in the air will have been prepared through discovery, gradual growth, learning, practice of the sacraments, unselfish service, and suffering. Consider again the following verses that clarify and complete the two verses you have highlighted:

1. John 7: 14-18, King James Version (KJV): 14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. 15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned? 16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. 18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

2. Hebrews 11: 6, KJV: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

3. James 2: 19-20, KJV: 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. James 2: 14-18, KJV: 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on believing as a sacred operation made in response to divine revelation, rather than an emotional, intellectual, or mental event responding to life experiences and worldly occurrences. Consciousness within created beings and living creatures must acknowledge and respond to active presence that appears as the inseparable aspects of divine fullness (we say, the makeup of GOD). While sinners will begin with ideas and understandings that are simple and easily understood, eventually they are to take on the duties and practices of mature Christian adults that are profound expressions of divine law, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of the Creator. The writer at the public forum, “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “veggiegirl777” (Level 4 with 3,344 points, a member since March 26, 2009) posted the following:

 

Why does Christianity say we have to believe Jesus died for our sins in order to be saved?

In the Bible, I have read many parts of it, it only quotes Jesus as saying you have to believe in him.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3: 16-21, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Offering Yourself To Christ? (12/27/2018); Discovering The Holy Spirit (12/23/2018); The Water, The Fire (10/10/2017); Become Like Jesus Christ? (10/27/2016); Belief, Content And Works? (02/12/2016); By More Than Believing (12/04/2015); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); Science and the Laws of Nature? (03/23/2013)

 

veggiegirl777”, speaking as mature Christian believers, born-again followers of Jesus should share the understanding that “belief” in Christ as Lord and Savior is more than a choice or decision grounded in logic, carnal reason, and critical thinking. Christians are to accept and undergo permanent change. The belief spoken of within the holy writings and the shared doctrine for the church speak to the need for divine process that is generated and completed through exchanges and interactions of inseparable aspects of divine fullness. Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Sinners who turn to GOD will experience repentance as an operation of the imparted, indwelling Spirit, who also is a member of the Godhead (we say, divinity; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit). Most developing believers begin their journey returning to the Creator being grounded in secular knowledge, worldly practices, and transgressions of divine law (we say, sins). New believers must acquire sacred knowledge, skill performing sacred practices (i.e., sacraments such as baptism, marriage, praise, prayer), and maturity (e.g., accountability, balance, consistency, sobriety, stability). Once sinners are transformed through baptism to exist as vessels of divine life essence (we say, breath; spirit; word), they are to continue using daily routines and lifestyles that display the influence of active presence and their new relationship as the offspring of GOD, joint heirs with Jesus Christ, and the new creation.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

Colossians 3: 1-12, King James Version (KJV): 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Fall of the Spirit

THE FALL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ON THE HOUSEHOLD OF CORNELIUS

 

Today, reply is on whether water baptism and the falling of the Holy Spirit both are needed for a sinner to be saved.  Water baptism, preaching the Gospel, repentance, and other “good works” serve as visible actions and events that  crystallize and focus the operations of spirit content from the makeup of GOD that must reside within a new believer.  As vessels of divine spirit content, developing believers should demonstrate and display sacred knowledge, divine inheritance, eternal purposes, and personal relationship as joint-heirs with Jesus Christ and the sons and daughters of the Creator.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “GRANNY NORINE” (Level 1 with 56 points, a member since May 16, 2014) posted the following:

 

Why Did “The Holy Spirit [Just] Fell On Them As Peter Began To Speak” (Acts 11:15-16) IF Water Baptism SAVES?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:  it is the gift of God:  Not of works, lest any man should boast.  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.  (Ephesians 2:  8-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Sacred Baptism, Divine Resurrection? (09/14/2017); Holy Fire From GOD? (04/27/2017); Receiving The Holy Spirit (12/08/2016); Cornelius, and Prayer By Sinners? (03/09/2015); The Fire From GOD? (06/22/2014); Origin of Baptism? (06/22/2013); Money-changers in The Temple? (06/23/2013)

 

“GRANNY NORINE,” despite that their properties seem to make them opposites, emblems of both fire and water are used to convey understanding of our salvation.  The present salvation is conditional and temporal (i.e., it will last only so long as certain criteria are correctly met), and requires the further fulfillment of multiple promises, prophecies, and sacred operations.  Included are resurrection of the dead, Advent (we also say, his appearing, the harvest, the Rapture, the Second Coming), the completion of mortality among the living, the conclusion of final judgment, and the total elimination of death and sin using the Lake of Fire.

Simply “believing” can be discerned as an emotional and intellectual act that of itself has no saving power, and is vain (i.e., lacks the inseparable spirit content imparted from the makeup of divinity such as faith, holiness, longsuffering, wrath against sin).  Thus, separated from the full doctrine and sacred context for meaning and value, there is continuing error when reading the Scriptures to say that baptism and believing are enough to establish a sinner in new life.  Within the context of sacred doctrine through Jesus Christ, “believing” has been given a new definition, and we must be careful to “rightly divide” (i.e., correctly acknowledge its new expression and focus).

Questions about the correct order and sequence for receiving water baptism, gifts for ministry of the Gospel, and the endowments of the Holy Spirit that permanently are to indwell the believer have continued since the days of the early church.  Where baptism may be understood as a ceremony for spiritual cleansing and renewal, it is yet an act of choice and human will.  The appearing and works by the Holy Spirit should be acknowledged as entirely on the basis of sovereign will, and determinations that result through divine process.  Thus, before anyone was baptized, and just as the apostle who had been summoned began to preach his sermon, Cornelius, a non-Jew, with his family, friends, and entire household were baptized with fire.  The attendance of Peter in the home of Cornelius was not to bring or deliver the Spirit to his household so much as to witness and authenticate their experience was the same as what occurred on Pentecost.

Salvation is not a “one-time” event, and must unfold for a believer through revelation that includes discovery, gradual growth, learning, maturing, and undergoing permanent change.  Baptism also signals a joint work of flesh and divinity wherein a sinner’s inborn spirit undergoes death, burial, and resurrection as a seed and offspring of GOD.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Romans 6:  3-7, King James Version (KJV):  3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?  4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:  that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.  7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

(2.)  John 1:  10-14, KJV:  10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.  11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:  13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

(3.)  1st Timothy 2:  13-15, KJV:  13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.  15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

(4.)  Mark 16:  14-17, KJV:  14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.  15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.  17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Acts 19:  1-7, KJV:  1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,  2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.  3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.  4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.  5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.  6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.  7 And all the men were about twelve.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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JESUS RAISING JAIRUS’ DAUGHTER

 

Today, focus is on belief, ministry, sacred events, and signs.  Believers and followers of Jesus accomplish works that are greater than those performed by the Lord on the basis of their displaying works chosen and selected by GOD to fulfill prophecy and eternal purpose, rather than as a matter of introducing sacred practices never seen or thought of before that originate within flesh, and are characterized by newness, sensationalism, and sensuality.  Many Christian believers do not distinguish between the works that focus on carnal, material and social things, and the works that might be spoken of as centering on Spirit.  Even so, all Christians are saved by divine grace through faith, and not by their own works.  Most of the critical operations completed for a sinner’s salvation must be carried out by divinity on their behalf leaving them only such work as acknowledgement and worship; acquiring sacred knowledge; developing discernment; expressing gratitude; regular prayer; sharing fellowship and unselfish service; and study of the holy writings.  With this in view, it might also be correct to say, The most important work to be completed by a believer in Christ is to be in a full personal relationship with divinity that displays the righteousness of GOD rather than the righteousness of mankind, and that permits discernment of the same oneness without sameness that appears among the persons within the GODhead.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Roland Chambers” (Level 2 with 786 points, a member since March 02, 2015) posted the following:

 

Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine. What greater work can man do then these things?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:  it is the gift of God:  Not of works, lest any man should boast.  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.  (Ephesians 2:  8-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Proclaiming A New Kingdom? (04/13/2017); Salvation By Faith Alone? (01/19/2017); Belief, Faith and Assumptions (11/24/2016); Diversity and Prophetic Gifts (11/22/2016); Why Are Works Required? (07/18/2016); A Divine Day Off? (02/15/2016); On Doing Good Deeds (02/02/2016) 

 

“Roland Chambers”, the greater works created beings and living creatures must complete are those directed to GOD (e.g., confession, love, repentance, thanksgiving), and may be “visible” only as Spirit.  Thus, even for many mature Christians the most challenging and difficult work for a believer is submission (to “let go, and let God”).  While the process of GOD to separate Creation from sin does include many sacred events (we say, miracles), the presentation of non-verbal prophetic demonstrations that make “visible” otherwise unseen divine intent, messages and operations of the Spirit, and the provision of “signs” (nature used to authenticate the divine origin, source, and certain fulfillment of prophecy), through the ministry of Jesus Christ sinners are being granted a fresh endowment of spirit content from the makeup of GOD, and are being transformed to exist as a new creation.  In addition to the works of believing, commitment, exclusive spiritual devotion, recruiting new believers, and unselfish ministry to others, the born again disciples and followers of Christ are to endure suffering and await the Savior’s appearing (we say, Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming).  More significant than exceptions, reversals, and unusual occurrences in accordance with natural law are the continuous appearance of inseparable spirit substance from the Father (we say, divine DNA) deposited in earthen vessels, and displayed through the lifestyle and daily routines among those now the children of GOD.  Included should be seen faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Consider again the following from the Bible:

(1.)  John 6:  27-35, King James Version (KJV):  27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you:  for him hath God the Father sealed.  28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?  29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.  30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?  31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.  32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.  33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.  34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.  35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life:  he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

(2.)  2nd Peter 1:  2-11, KJV:  2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,  3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:  4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:  that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.  5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;  6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;  7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.  8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.  10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure:  for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:  11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  1st Peter 4:  12-19, KJV:  12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:  13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.  14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:  on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.  15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.  16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.  17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:  and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?  18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?  19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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