Posts Tagged ‘demands’



Today, focus is on “extreme” divine demands and language that appear within the Bible.  While the Scriptures proclaim the love of our Creator they also must express censure, reprimand, and wrath against sin.  “New wine” must be placed in “new bottles.”  The transformation of mankind to exist without sin as a companion to immortal, incorruptible divinity requires permanent changes in the makeup of all created beings and living creatures as well as the entire universe (heaven, earth, and all that will exist).  The Bible records the revelation from GOD provided to explain, instruct, and prepare mankind for the necessary sacred operations that now are occurring and will be completed at their appointed time.  Along with the serious themes of covenant relationship, death, decay, and destruction aspects for the new creation are shared such as admonition, comfort, oneness without sameness, promises, prophecy, and warning.  Also included are atonement, adoption of the Spirit, Incarnation, inheritance, Judgment, rebirth, resurrection of the dead, sanctification, and the second death.  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:


Is Luke 14:26 considered an extravagant statement that’s not intended to be taken rationally?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And there went great multitudes with him:  and he turned, and said unto them,  If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.  And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.  (Luke 14:  25-27, King James Version, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Quality of Life? (03/29/2017); What Does Divinity Want? (03/13/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); On Accepting Divine Judgment (02/26/2017); The Relationships With GOD? (11/30/2016); Choice, Duty, and Obligation? (11/17/2016); The GOD Named “Jealous” (09/15/2016); The Faith of Ones Parents? (11/18/2012); Reading Only The Red Part (11/19/2012)

“Anonymous”, many statements appear in the Scriptures that may seem “extreme” and startling; however, the rule, “no cross, no crown” (i.e., that every Christian believer must suffer with Christ) is basic and nonnegotiable.  When sinners first begin to read the Bible, their spirit content from GOD is not properly prepared to acknowledge the full spectrum of godliness, sacred knowledge and  spirit truth that are being shared.  The simple, yet, profound process of becoming a Christian believer is one wherein a person’s consciousness and self-will that are directed to things carnal, material, secular, and social will be redirected and gradually built up to consistently discern and respond to the active presence who is GOD.  Even after water baptism, that depicts the death, burial and resurrection of their inborn spirit, born-again sinners must “grow up again” and become mature by regular fellowship with other believers, practice of sacraments, praise, prayer, sacrifice, sharing, study of the holy writings, suffering, unselfish service, and more.  Consider again the following points of instruction:

(1.)  2nd Timothy 3:  16-17, King James Version (KJV):  16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

(2.)  Matthew 12:  50, KJV:  50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

(3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

(4.)  Hebrews 12:  7-9, KJV:  7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.  9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:  shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Revelation 21:  7-8, KJV:  7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.  8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:  which is the second death.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC



Today, the cross comes into view answering divine demands made by divine law (we say, the expressed will of GOD) as well as those made for being in correct relationship with the Creator.  Oneness is a shared goal and intent for both law and sacred relationship.  Such features as faithfulness, forgiveness, grace, intimacy, and love are as important to the full revelation of GOD as are condemnation, righteous judgment, divine prerogative, and punishment.  In the same way finite intelligence, logic, philosophy, science and technology cannot eliminate sin and its consequences, neither reliance upon abstractions of process (e.g., equity, justice, impartiality) and  formal regulations and law for government, nor reliance upon human tools of emotion and mind alone provide correct understanding of GODhead.  Even through the ancient ordinances and statutes granted to mankind principles for continuing in proper relationship to GOD have been  communicated.  Readers are encouraged to consider how this appears in the following Bible verses, and the presentation below:

Matthew 5:  43-45, King James Version (KJV):  43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.  44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;  45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:  for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Matthew 5:  19-22, KJV:  19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:  but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.  21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:  22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:  and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council:  but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

1st Peter 4:  1-6, KJV:  1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind:  for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;  2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.  3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:  4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:  5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.  6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (the required profile information not shared) posted the following:


Is the Son in some ways not like the Father in that he told us to turn the other cheek whereas the Father did smite those who transgressed?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  And he is the head of the body, the church:  who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  (Colossians 1:  12-20, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Revelation and The Cross (03/27/2016); Oneness and The Cross (03/18/2016); Answered by The Cross? (03/14/2016); Damnation And The Cross? (03/06/2016); More On Divine Justification (02/08/2016); Love That Is Spirit? (01/28/2016); Does Everyone Go To Heaven? (10/28/2012); Magick and Prayers? (10/29/2012)


“Anonymous”, the operations to make divinity knowable and known to created beings and living creatures have combined and interwoven aspects of carnal, material, social and spirit existence.  Details and secrets of the mystery whereby the Father and Son are in oneness without sameness have not yet been disclosed.  Even so, the completeness and excellency of Deity described as GODhead continues as eternal life and process displayed through multiple levels of authority, expression, purpose, and substance.  Divine will is active, present, and visible both through the processes of sacred law, and those of intimate relationship between the Creator and the created.  The demands of law come into view by such mandatory and nonnegotiable features as atonement, confession, covenant, death, judgment, mercy, and resurrection.  The demands of relationship come into view by features such as adoption, contrition, forbearance, forgiveness, grace, humility, Incarnation, inheritance, meekness, praise, rebirth, thanksgiving, and trust.  These features are complementary, and fit together in a comprehensive scheme of divine revelation that, despite time and space, through operations of the Holy Spirit, are as blood and truth from the cross flowing to here and now.  Consider how this is stated using language from the Bible in the following verses:

(1.)  Matthew 5:  5-10, King James Version (KJV):  5 Blessed are the meek:  for they shall inherit the earth.  6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness:  for they shall be filled.  7 Blessed are the merciful:  for they shall obtain mercy.  8 Blessed are the pure in heart:  for they shall see God.  9 Blessed are the peacemakers:  for they shall be called the children of God.  10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake:  for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 15:  21-24, KJV:  21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.  22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.  23 But every man in his own order:  Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.  24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

(3.)  Hebrews 9:  24-28, KJV:  24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:  25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;  26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world:   but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.  27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:  28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

There is far more to be said, understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  John 10:  27-30, KJV:  27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:  28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.  29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.  30 I and my Father are one.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

New Disclaimer


Points are shared, today, on why Christianity appears as a system of belief having demands, requirements and standards.  While divine forbearance, forgiveness, grace and divine love are spoken of as “free gifts,” no one should expect to receive new life through the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ as “something for nothing.”  Those who genuinely value and conduct themselves as being in fellowship with divinity will experience rebirth with life in the Spirit.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using ID “Anonymous” (no other information available) posted the following:

So let me get this straight, if you believe in a certain belief system you get eternal life and you need to follow the strict guidelines?

but if you’re wrong you wasted your only life.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:  but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.  For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.  (Romans 8:  13-18, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Relationship With Our Creator? (03/16/2015); Understanding Spiritual Growth? (03/13/2015); Putting GOD First? (06/02/2013); Need for A New Holy Spirit? (06/03/2013); Illusion? (04/25/2013); Not of Legal Age? (04/26/2013)

“Anonymous”, here are a few points to consider on acquiring sacred knowledge and salvation:

(1.)  GOD must approve and endorse every answer proposing to explain such realities as covenant partnership with Divine Person; creation ex nihilo (calling something into existence from nothing); internalizing divine law; completing final judgment; accepting and giving love; the composition, make-up and substance of Deity; the end of mortality (we say, death); sacred operations such as atonement, resurrection and sanctification; and immutable, unchanging purpose.

(2.)  Any single statement offered to explain the character, nature and origins of existence will immediately require additional explanations (for example, definitions for the peculiar concepts, terms and words that were used; the history describing development and dissemination of the answer that was made; the suitability of the answer for application to other questions; and the authority or basis for accepting the answer as correct).  A belief system results, because only a comprehensive and detailed response can satisfy the multiple demands for accuracy and completeness.

(3.)  GOD is a spirit, and should not be thought of as a material and measurable object made from particles (e.g., clouds, fog, mist, smoke, steam).  The “ingredients” or make-up of divinity is such inseparable matter (where you find one, all appear) as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, patience, person, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  To “know” GOD requires replacing and suspending many of the frameworks depended upon by created beings and living creatures.  Included are economic, emotional, psychological, political, and social structures as well as space and time.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  How badly do you want it?  There is no question that mankind may experience divinity through intimate relationships.  Many who speak of knowing GOD only want to exploit and manipulate divinity (i.e., do their own thing; have their own way).  Closeness and sharing as sons and daughters of GOD are maintained only by regular, positive exchange and interaction that include praise, prayer, reverence, study, suffering, and worship.  There must be humility, perseverance, respect, sacrifice, truth, and unselfishness.  A person’s life then takes on the qualities of godliness, and they themselves begin to experience the things promised and prophesied from GOD.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

The death, burial and resurrection of Moses are in view, today.  Also, there is more on what GOD demands from humans.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “mohammad” (a Level 1 member with 95 points active since May 11, 2014) posted the following:


 Is the body of Moses was taken up by God ?


THE BATTLE AXE:  What GOD Demands (05/10/2014)—(4.)  It is in the nature of relationship that GOD is no more demanding of humanity than humanity is demanding of GOD.  Just as the dimension, the nature, and the quality of material objects focus and limit how they may be used as tools or weapons as well as how long they endure and display value, created beings and living creatures, the conditions and spheres for their existence, and the operations and processes for their exchanges and interactions have been established and generated in accordance with aspects of divinity.  All that is must have place within, and respond to, such frameworks for being as divine order, eternal purpose, and spirit makeup.  Boundaries are not imposed on an arbitrary, random, or subjective basis.  Restraints and restrictions are imposed only to allow and provide such benefits as balance, change, completeness, definition, direction, fertility, growth, opportunity, prosperity, protection, revelation, safety, and vision.  It is an aspect of divine integrity within relationship that humans are not asked to serve as though they were angels.  Thus, self-generated expression for mankind is to be maintained.  Moreover, the peculiar beauty and strength of mankind are also established through humanity’s dependence, infirmity, and vulnerability.  Even so, the expressed will of GOD as divine law and judgment are also to be maintained.  Consider again the Scriptures:  Psalms 127:  1-2, Psalms 149:  3-4, Jeremiah 9:  23-24, Ezekiel 18:  23, Matthew 11:  28-30, 1st Corinthians 10:  13 and Revelation 4:  11, KJV.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts:  and by it he being dead yet speaketh.  By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him:  for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.  But without faith it is impossible to please him:  for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.  (Hebrews 11:  4-6, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Anointed? (04/28/2014); No More “Mr. Nice Guy”? (04/29/2014); Resurrection from the Dead? (04/23/2014); Not A Matter Of Opinion? (04/24/2014); Moses Killed? (09/23/2014); A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014); Face to Face Like Moses? (01/28/2014); Covenants and Relationships (01/29/2014); Salted with Fire? (09/24/2013); “Authorized Personnel Only” (03/13/2013)


“mohammad”, here are a few points recorded in the Holy Bible:

(1.)  The Scriptures report that Moses died in the land of Moab.  Although he was 120 years old, he continued to show health and stamina (his natural force was not abated, or diminished).  In obedience to GOD, Moses went up to Mount Nebo, and the top of Pisgah, and did not return to his people.  Moses was not translated as was Enoch, nor taken up by a chariot of fire, as was Elijah.  Later, Moses appeared as an evidence of resurrection from death.

(2.)  A 30-day period of mourning was observed for Moses as if his body had been recovered, and as though he had been given the full rites of burial.

(3.)  The Scriptures report that the archangel Michael disputed with the devil about the body of Moses, yet would not violently assault the Adversary.

(4.)  The Scriptures report that in preparing for his crucifixion, Jesus went to the top of a mountain accompanied by three of his apostles.  There, the Savior met with Moses and Elijah, and was transfigured before these eye-witnesses, who also heard the voice of the Father.  While the miracle of water to wine was the first display of divine glory as power by Jesus, the transfiguration was the first bodily display of his divine glory.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Where these things may be found:  See Genesis 5, Deuteronomy 34, 2nd Kings 2, Jude 1, Matthew 17, and Mark 9, KJV.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.  For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living:  for all live unto him.  (Luke 20:  37-38, KJV)

Washington, DC

Divine demands upon mankind are the topic, today.  Also, there is more on sharing a “good” verse when ministering, or sharing personal support with others.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer with the ID “fred” (Level 2 with 850 points, a member since December 06, 2013) posted the following:


Why would an all powerful God demand anything off humans? It’s not like he seeks our support to stay in office.? 

However, priests on the other hand do rely on people believing what they say is true. This gives them enormous influence, control and power.


THE BATTLE AXE:  A “Good” Verse? (05/09/2014)—(6.)  It is not simply that Christian believers are not to meddle in the lives of others through gossip, selfishness, slander, and unwise words as does the Adversary, the Devil.  Believers are not to meddle in the work of GOD for cleansing, healing and salvation whereby all Creation and the entire universe are regenerated, and mankind is transformed to be immortal and incorruptible.  At first, many abuse their freedom and privilege in the Lord.  Using the Scriptures for self-expression, for self-justification, and for self-promotion are akin to apostasy, appropriating the name of GOD (i.e., identity theft), buying and selling freely given divine gifts (we say, making merchandise of the word of GOD), false doctrine, heresy, presumption, usurpation, and idol worship.  Verses among the holy writings may be thought of like bricks in the wall of a house.  You can not randomly (or safely) take one brick out, and put it into the wall of another house.  Should a single brick be removed (from the middle, the side, or the top), balance and the equal distribution of pressure is destroyed, the entire structure becomes unstable, and the breach may eventually result in collapse for both houses.  When we attempt to apply and use the Scriptures by selecting and taking verses out of context, we “wrest” (some say, wrestle with, or simply, force) unintended meaning and purpose upon the word from GOD.  By practice, prayer and continuous study of the Scriptures, believers are to gain spiritual discernment, and the ability to “rightly divide” and correctly apply Scriptures in the sacred work of clarifying, and spreading the doctrine and teachings from Jesus Christ. 

(7.)  While it is true that Jesus was able to heal many without always using physical contact and touch, there still had to be a peculiar level of agreement, connection, and shared spirit substance for healing to occur.  When Jesus would speak a word of acknowledgment, assent, or command, multiple operations of the Spirit would go forward coordinating the many permanent changes to body, mind and spirit that were required.  Others were healed through the apostles after the ascension of Jesus using aprons, handkerchiefs, and even their shadow falling upon the sick.  The followers of Jesus have been conclusively shown that wounds, sickness, and sorrow are temporal things; and can be dismissed as we focus through things eternal.  It is not enough to heal the surface, the symptoms, and outward display of disease and sickness.  The problems must be completely and correctly addressed at their root.  Just as no one can lie their way into heaven, yet, everyone can lie their way out, no one may achieve healing by deceit, lies, presumption, treachery, and unbelief.  Consider Deuteronomy 29:  9-20, Psalms 56:  1-13, Colossians 2:  6-8, Matthew 3:  10, Matthew 7:  21-27, Mark 11:  12-26, John 10:  33-35, Acts 5:  14-16, Acts 19:  11-12, Ephesians 6:  11-13, 1st Peter 2:  15-16, 2nd Peter 3:  13-18 and 2nd Timothy 2:  15-16, KJV.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;  And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:  To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,  According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:  In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.  (Ephesians 3:  8-12, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:   Fear & GOD? (12/30/2013); Continuously Tested (12/31/2013); GOD Enjoys Judgment? (12/19/2013); Miracles are Sacred Events (12/20/2013); A Need to Fear? (12/02/2012); On Seeing Jesus Serve the Poor (12/03/2012); Mockers in the Last Days (11/14/2012); Thoughts Upon A Warrior’s Fall (11/15/2012)


“fred”, the answer you need is not simple, and requires another level of awareness and understanding.  Here are some points that may help you recognize the truth as seen by a Christian believer:

(1.)  GOD “demands” from created beings and living creatures only in the sense that there are conditions for their continued existence, their cleansing and nourishment, their exchange and interaction within relationships to divinity, and their perfection and prosperity upon the earth.  In the same way the rain makes no demand that everyone carry umbrellas, nor does it demand that everyone stand and get wet, GOD does not demand that all continue as his eternal companions.  Many will be marked for discharge and release from the various spheres for existence and life (e.g., earth, heaven, the world). 

(2.)  You are correct in saying that GOD is not a celebrity or a politician who requires the continuing support of others.  GOD is a spirit whose makeup is entirely from aspects of life essence such as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, person, presence, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  In their maturity and perfection, clergymen and priests are not seeking to possess authority, control,  influence, and power.  Rather, they seek to acknowledge that all power resides in divinity, and then strive to assist others in coming to that awareness.  In the same way, our mothers are not demanding Mothers Day gifts—and I did not demand that anyone read this statement, and offered it without charge or fee—the process of GOD through all Christian believers is one of sharing sacred knowledge and truth along with prophecy (i.e., comfort, edification (building up), and exhortation (urging others to take positive action).  )  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.  (1st Corinthians 14:  33, KJV)

Washington, DC