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Today, reply is on the response made by the early church at Corinth to condemn and correct the open practice of adultery and fornication. A Christian community is maintained and preserved by the presence of features that otherwise generate division and schism (e.g., consensus; hierarchy; judging others; shunning; sorrowing for sin). The exposure of errors and sin committed by one believer within the church is to mobilize every believer to acknowledge those in whom godly authority has been invested, to examine themselves for spirit content from divinity, and to renew their full commitment to the entire sacred body. The primary goals for the church when responding to transgressors are to be correction, edification, displaying mercy in judgment, reconciliation and spiritual growth, rather than final judgment for the spirit within another member, excommunication, expulsion, and punishment. Forgiveness and soul-winning are to continue; even so, sinners are to be denied opportunities to influence doctrine, fellowship, and the ongoing sanctification of the body. It is written: 2nd Corinthians 13: 5-10, King James Version (KJV): 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates. 8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 9 For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection. 10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shown) posted the following:


Did they put that guy out of his church at 1 Corinthians 5:13?


THE GOLDEN ARROW: Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing. And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all. (2nd Thessalonians 3: 6-16, King James Version, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Responses To Clergy Scandals (03/28/2019); The Revelation of Mercy (01/28/2019); Why Punishment After Death? (11/23/2018); That GOD Is Judge (11/01/2018); Transgression of Sacred Law? (10/25/2018); Be Not Unequally Yoked (04/16/2018); Sprinkled, Immersed, Named? (02/01/2014); Forgiveness Through GOD? (02/02/2014)


Anonymous”, consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. 1st Corinthians 5: 1-5, King James Version (KJV): 1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2. 1st Corinthians 5: 9-13, KJV: 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

3. 1st Corinthians 6: 18-20, KJV: 18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

4. Matthew 18: 15-17, KJV: 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 5. Galatians 5: 19-21, KJV: 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, some points are shared on the proper way to atone for sins and to ask GOD for forgiveness.  Also, there is more on water baptism.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Ilovegod” (Level 1 with 95 points, a member since February 01, 2014) posted the following:


Forgiveness through god?

What is the proper way to atone sins and ask for gods forgiveness?


THE BATTLE AXE:  Sprinkled, Immersed, Named? (02/01/2014)—(4.)  In its origins, baptism pertains to preparing, selecting and killing ones best animals as a gift to GOD.  Before being placed upon the holy altar, offerings and sacrifices are purified and washed.  More important than the body and flesh of the animal that may be consumed as food is its blood.  The blood is of higher importance, for the blood conveys the life and spirit essence of the living.  Later, in addition to cleansing and washing, baptism involves dedication (making promise of oneself in payment to GOD), redemption (payment to release oneself as  sacrifice from destruction upon the altar), and sanctification (being set apart for service to GOD) where sinners become living sacrifices to GOD as believers and disciples of Jesus Christ.  (5.)  The holy writings report believers receiving water baptism both before and after the Holy Ghost (also called the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) first fell upon them.  Because repentance and salvation are only by multiple actions and operations of the Holy Spirit, many are convinced that a simple “sinner’s prayer” is sufficient for believers to begin the full transformation that must occur as our entrance into eternal life.  (6.)  Water baptism may be performed in a standing pool of water, such as a pond, lake or indoor baptism pool of a church (usually located within the sanctuary).  However, in addition to concern for fish, snakes and other wildlife in the water, many feel that standing waters become defiled and quickly polluted such that multiple baptisms would be like several family members bathing in the same tub of water.  Thus, those who insist upon flowing water have used rivers, streams, and even fire hydrants.  Baptismal fonts for sprinkling are convenient, because they take up little space, and the expenses for plumbing are less.  (7.)  Where baptism is a condition for membership in particular denominations this is accounted by many believers as no more than a demand that one publicly display and express their new commitment, and conviction.  The humility, obedience, and respect of the new believer is witnessed by all in a manner that is agreeable to their new church community.  Thereby, earlier documents and records need not be transcribed and sought out; and baptism functions in the same way as ceremonies for confirmation, and consecration.  Practiced as a sacrament, baptism is not a condition for salvation (a simple act all believers must perform to escape damnation).  Baptism serves to continue consciousness and focus for ones new life in Christ just like confession, penance and sharing the Lord’s Supper.  (8.)  One can not lose their baptism, their birth rights in Christ, and their divine inheritance as joint heirs through inactivity or neglect, even where they lose “good-standing” within their assembly, and where their church membership has been cancelled.  However, a person may deny Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit resulting in de facto excommunication.  There is no salvation in Christ in cases of apostasy, blasphemy, heresy, unbelief, and accepting the mark of the beast or that of Satan.  See Numbers 8:  7, Ezekiel 36:  24-26, Mark 1:  8, Acts 10:  38-48, John 13:  1-17 and Hebrews 10:  19-29, KJV.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.  (1st John 1:  9-11, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  How Do I Repent? (05/16/2013); The “Jesus Way”? (05/17/2013); Struggling? (05/11/2013); Through Much Tribulation (05/12/2013); Does Everyone Go To Heaven? (10/28/2012); Magick and Prayers? (10/29/2012); Father Forgive (09/06/2012)


“Ilovegod”, here are a few points to consider that have helped many Christian believers avoid spiritual confusion from mockers, the foolishness of unbelievers, and the many traps set up by Satan:

(1.)  Believe that atonement is accomplished only through divine operations that require the application of blood that is not corrupt and tainted by sin.  Blood carries and transports “life essence” (we say, the breath of life, the spark of life, or spirit) to all the organs and tissues of ones material body; however, blood itself is not spirit.  As a sacrifice for sin laid upon a sacred altar, blood (we say, flesh) must be separated from spirit by holy fire.

(2.)  Believe that forgiveness establishes a conditional relationship with GOD that must be cemented and crystallized further through acknowledgment, atonement, prayer, repentance, service, and worship.  Forgiveness merely announces and proclaims that restoration of right standing and trust is possible.  Saying this another way:  GOD is willing to respond to displays of contrition, genuine desire for permanent change in ones makeup, unselfish love, meekness (willingness to receive instruction through the Holy Spirit), and godly sorrowing for sin.

There is far more to be said, properly shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (3.)  Christian believers trust that Jesus Christ has ministered to mankind upon the earth, and now continues his role as our High Priest in heaven (the place of divine presence).  It is there that holy blood must be offered and applied for atonement of sins, cleansing of the Sanctuary, and amending the books of life that are to be used in judgment.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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