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Today, reply is shared on heaven as the sphere of eternal life generated by active presence and divine fullness wherein divinity exists in continuous communion with created beings and living creatures through their endowment of imparted spirit from the makeup of GOD. The character, process and substance of heaven proceeds directly from GOD, therefore, heaven is a place of immortality, incorruptibility, peace, perfection, and highest praise. Men do not die and go to heaven for rest so much as they go to heaven for further service to divinity and additional sacred works. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anomymouscutie” (Level 1 with 17 points, a member since February 18, 2016) posted the following:

 

Can someone explain heaven?

Im Muslims and I’m confused! So when we go to heaven we were told we could get whatever we want but dosent that make us greedy? We would just want more and more! I mean dosent god teach us to be thankful and not be greedy? So why is he giving us things we don’t need in heaven? And why would we want anything? I mean expensive cars and money have no value ! Thier worthless! So what’s the point in all this? Can someone explain? I’m confused!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14: 2-3, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Places Closer To GOD (03/24/2019); Asking Questions in Heaven? (11/15/2018); According To The Pattern (09/27/2018); Heaven Temporal, GOD Eternal (12/12/2017); Paradise and The Cross? (03/07/2016); Jesus Lives! (05/04/2013); Experience Is Not Evidence? (05/05/2013)

 

Anomymouscutie”, be encouraged! Here are some thoughts I can share as a Christian believer that you may find useful when considering the meaning of “heaven” or “paradise”:

Where heaven is described as an aspect of sacred knowledge within a structured belief system (i.e., catechism; doctrine; sacred studies; testimony) there are multiple practices that preserve and selectively share the original materials, mysteries, and sacred substance embedded within the patterns and themes that appear. Included may be the character and makeup of divinity; the expression of divine personhood, prerogative, eternal purpose, and sovereign will; the provision of correction, punishment, or rewards through a process of divine judgment; and alternative descriptions for the primary spheres of life (e.g., a realm of the dead; a realm of celestial presence, beauty, and perfection; a realm of torment, etc.).

2. Sinners who turn to GOD for forgiveness and change in their lives through Christian belief are encouraged to receive a fresh endowment of the same life essence (i.e., breath; spirit; word) that was imparted from the makeup of GOD to reside within the first male and female (Adam). Where one becomes “born again,” they also must “grow up again” and become mature/ripe for harvest from the earth by the Lord at his coming. Inseparable aspects of full divinity are implanted as divine DNA, so to speak. Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

3. There are many descriptions of heaven that are not from the major belief systems for sacred knowledge; and heaven will not be manifest as an expression of sanctified person, divine substance, and sacred process. In folklore, tradition, and creative arts, heaven may be spoken of using terms of the life process for mankind on the earth that are carnal, competitive, political, and social. Their thoughts and understandings are suited to frameworks for finite human qualities and tools such as appetite, sensation, emotion, and mind. The broad mix of ideas and themes that may appear does not always bear fruit, edify, or nourish correct understandings of divinity. Included may be lofty themes of time and space, measurable dimension and science, sorcery, superstition, witchcraft, and the occult.

4. Consider the following that uses language from the Bible to present the theme that heaven is a place where the Creator and the created both can exist having a relationship uninterrupted by the operations of sin: Isaiah 57: 15-21, King James Version (KJV): 15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. 16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. 19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him. 20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. 21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 5. 1st John 4: 1-6, KJV: 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, reply is on authenticity for experiences of divine visitation. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shown) posted the following:

 

What would you say if I told you that Jesus is sitting right here next to me?

I would guess that even Christians would call me a troll and a liar, to which I say-

Wait a minute- I thought you said that Jesus was coming back! How do you know He wouldn’t pick a random person to help Him get started? There’s a lot of logistics to consider here-

such as easing into it via radio, tv and/or social media announcements, avoiding mass panic, coordinating traffic, etc.

So, what do you say now?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. (Luke 17: 20-24, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Prophecy Over Personal Testimony? (06/29/2017); Proof That GOD Exists? (10/16/2016); On Really Seeing Angels (10/09/2016); The Testimony From Jesus (08/05/2016); Knowing GOD For Yourself (07/13/2016); Seeing Jesus While Alive? (02/05/2016); What To Say To A Friend? (03/29/2015); A Visit from an Angel? (10/20/2013); The Head Not The Tail? (12/21/2013)

 

Anonymous”, “child, please!” Nothing is impossible with GOD, however, claiming experiences of encounters with divinity is no laughing matter. Sacred knowledge rather than secular knowledge is always a gift that should be received with joy, yet, with gravity, meekness, respect and sobriety. Within the church established by Jesus Christ with the Holy Spirit, occurrences and reports of encounters with divinity must be respected as intended to edify and build spirit value. Every member is to receive inseparable spirit matter from the makeup of GOD that includes faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Until shown to lack authenticity, a report is to be accounted as testimony within the process of ongoing divine judgment (i.e., a statement under oath bearing penalties for perjury, and therefore, “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”). For sinners who become “born again,” the sacred process is one of multiple changes, discovery, gradual growth, learning, and study. Ones integrity and justification as a believer comes by being anchored in the testimony of Jesus, the Spirit of prophecy.

Many within the body argue that no one is to see the resurrected Jesus in a one-on-one experience of prayer, or of private revelation (as did the Apostle Paul on the road to Damascus). Paul wrote: (1st Corinthians 15: 3-8, King James Version (KJV): 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. Also, the promises recorded as the revelation given to Jesus to share with his church state that “every eye will see him” at his appearing (we also say, Advent; the harvest; the Rapture; the Second Coming).

Developing and mature Christian believers are encouraged to “try the spirits” (i.e., examine the character, makeup, origin, divine process, sacred purpose, and divine substance) within events, oneself, other persons, prophecy, holy writings, etc. Believers are to focus on the claims and reports that come from divinity, avoiding material that displays only self-promotion, sensationalism, and vainglory. There should be accord and agreement with the things already proclaimed, promised, and recorded for the body of Christ as well as those things that are in their ongoing fulfillment. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. 2nd Peter 1: 2-4, King James Version (KJV): 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

2. 1st Corinthians 12: 3-13, KJV: 3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

3. 1st John 4: 1-3, KJV: 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Revelation 19: 9-10, KJV: 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, reply is made to a fighter who is confusing the bitterness and exaggerated pride of human jealousy with the divine demands of our Creator for commitment and exclusive devotion within the sacred relationships with himself granted to created beings and living creatures.  So to speak, the “bottom line” is that GOD must be known through sacred deeds and divine operations that include things amazing, awesome, terrible, and wonderful.  The law of jealousies appears in Numbers 5:  12-31, King James Version (KJV), and describes the ceremonies, memorials, and rituals to be carried out by the priests to investigate, punish, or restore those in cases of suspected adultery and unfaithfulness.  Proclamation of the holy name (reputation) of GOD as Jealous appears elsewhere in Exodus, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Psalms, Ezekiel, 2nd Corinthians, and other sacred writings.  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Christians why does your God say he is jealous? Is he insecure?  Why would anything worthy of the title “god” ever get jealous? They wouldn’t?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And he said, Behold, I make a covenant:  before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation:  and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD:  for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.  Observe thou that which I command thee this day:  behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.  Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:  But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:  For thou shalt worship no other god:  for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:  Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;  And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.  (Exodus 34:  10-16, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Bible and Salvation (09/14/2016); Standards for Judging GOD? (08/22/2016); (About The Great Whore? 06/24/2016); We Call Him Jealous? (10/25/2015); Divine Jealousy? (09/11/2015); About Knowing the Name of GOD (09/21/2014); About Deluding Yourself? (09/22/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, many expressions that appear in the holy writings are included because of the ignorance, infirmity, and weakness of created beings and living creatures whereby they can not independently arrive at correct knowledge and thoughts regarding exalted and sovereign Deity.  (So to speak, men have to be told that GOD demands acceptance as the only true and living GOD; for GOD is spirit, not finite, not mortal, and is not bound and limited by frameworks of time and space, or rules that cause and determine the outcomes of emotional and psychological experiences, exchanges, and other interactions among and between either angels or human beings.)  Multiple sacred operations must go forward as revelation to make divinity knowable, known and visible.  Included are cleansing, forbearance, forgiveness, Incarnation, judgment, prayer, rebirth, and sanctification.  The character, nature, and substance of GOD may gradually become clearer to sinners who seek GOD through specific life experiences such as church attendance, disciplined Bible study, fellowship with mature believers, and continuous worship.  That GOD is Creator, possessor, and sovereign ruler over all that exists demands and requires acknowledgment, awe, fidelity, obedience, respect, and reverence.  Men who have mature understanding are expected to assist, guide and influence those who are simple (i.e., immature; naïve; underdeveloped) to develop their own responses to this truth.  Your god, probably demands something similar from you, and you may not have discovered this yet.  Be it unto you according to your faith, and the mercy your god may show.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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Scripture points are shared, today, to cancel the idea that “faith” and “God” are undefined, and may be described in accordance with ones personal experience, hidden mysteries, or private knowledge of divinity.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Breakthrough” (Level 6 with 10,945 points, a member since June 29, 2013) posted the following:

 

How would you describe God?

I think with God, you get what you put in. If you put in love – you will view God as love. If you put in sin – you will view God as destructive. If you put in justice – you will view God as justice. If you put in sacrifice – you will view God as joy. If you put in mercy – you will view God as mercy and if you put in compassion you will view God as compassion.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said,  Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.  Then Job answered the LORD, and said,  Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.  Once have I spoken; but I will not answer:  yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.  Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,  Gird up thy loins now like a man:  I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.  Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?  Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?  Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.  Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath:  and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.  Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.  Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.  Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.  (Job 40:  1-14, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Knowing? (05/24/2015); Divinity Has Person? (05/19/2015); Knowing The Holy Spirit? (05/17/2015); The Limit to Believing? (09/16/2013); All Things Possible? (09/17/2013); How Was GOD Known Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Jesus, King of Earth? (10/07/2012); Speaking of GOD (10/20/2010); Eat and Run? (10/21/201)

 

“Breakthrough”, many expect to know GOD by using finite tools such as enticement, imagination, intellect, logic, money, philosophy, politics, promises, science, and even sexual favor.  However, created beings and living creatures do not need to “make believe,” guess, or speculate.  There is a specific, reliable source among the living that may be trusted for sacred knowledge that provides complete and correct information on the character, makeup, nature, process, and substance of divinity.  Called the Gospel, prophecy, revelation, testimony, witness, and the Word, mature Christian believers rely upon the record of utterances from Deity that serve as a “divine self-portrait” emanated using thousands of sacred events, within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Hebrews 11:  1-6, King James Version (KJV):  11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.  2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.  3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.  4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.  5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him:  for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.  6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:  for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

(2.)  Exodus 3:  15, KJV:  15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you:  this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

(3.)  Exodus 6:  2-4, KJV:  2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:  3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.  4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.

(4.)  Exodus 34:  6-8, KJV:  6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,  7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.  8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

(5.)  2nd Timothy 3:  16, KJV:  16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

(6.)  John 4:  23-24, KJV:  23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth:   for the Father seeketh such to worship him.  24 God is a Spirit:   and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

(7.)  1st John 5:  9-11, KJV:  9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:  for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.  10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:  he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.  11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually taken into account.  (For example, (8.)  Isaiah 63:  15-16, KJV:  15 Look down from heaven, and behold from the habitation of thy holiness and of thy glory:  where is thy zeal and thy strength, the sounding of thy bowels and of thy mercies toward me? are they restrained?  16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not:  thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Divine love, attraction, and healthy relationships are topics, today; and the periodic table for the tests of love and healthy relationship is featured.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “charlene” (Level 1 with 81 points, a member since August 27, 2014) posted the following:

 

Do you believe in love at first sight?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham:  and he said, Behold, here I am.  And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.  And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.  Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.  And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.  And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.  And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father:  and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood:  but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?  And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.  (Genesis 22:  1-8, KJV)

 

“charlene”, there are many things that are “real” that can not be easily explained with words.  Here are a few points on love that are important among Christian believers:

(1.)  Love is understood as a process wherein independent spirits contact one another, interact, and are permanently joined on a continuing basis (we say, in stable relationships).  As with many aspects of sacred knowledge within Christian belief, only those who actually have experienced divine love, the sacred spirit that is love, and “love at first sight” may give a reliable first-hand report on what it is like.  I’m convinced that such experiences only occur where one first has been prepared through peculiar emotional, mental, psychological, and spiritual events.

(2.)  What I experienced as “love at first sight” was an immediate sense of mutual acceptance and connection when I was introduced to a stranger.  After some conversation, I found my self embracing this person as a peer and a “soul mate” (someone I felt was my equal in commitment, intellect, purpose, quality, and trust).  This was unasked for and unexpected.  I was surprised, and a little suspicious (believers are cautioned always to try the spirits, whether they be of GOD).  I was challenged to put aside all bias, fear, guilt, prejudice, and shame.  I was challenged to put aside all judgment, and suspend my usual “moves” to impress others by showing off aspects of my mastery of African American heritage, and to completely rely upon GOD, instead.  The love I experienced in that moment, decades ago, is still in effect, and has stood the test of time.  I trust this person continues in my heart and in my thoughts through operations of the Holy Spirit.  By no means was our meeting and sharing with one another the kind of sexual encounter we call a “one night stand.”  Yet, the two of us have not seen one another eye-to-eye, or spent time together in the same place since our first being introduced.

(3.)  Genuine love is immutable, permanent, and unchanging.  As an eternal operation love affirms human existence without condemning any because of finite carnal abilities, needs, possibilities, and understandings.  It is never a mistake to love.  Having a realization of love is also having an awareness of duty and responsibility.  Thus, where it is our purpose to anoint, build, heal, protect, restore, and sanctify, we do not use the language “love at first sight.”  In addition, we are careful not to make excuses, or “explain away” experience as some do who deny miracles by seeking intellectual and scientific answers.  To love is to unselfishly benefit another.  Christians agree that love is more than affection, attraction based upon outward appearance, desire, and emotion.  What else is there?  See the charts below from THE FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS:  Death, Love and Unity (1998.  Williams, Michael Andrew.  Washington, DC:  THE BLACK PHOENIX PRESS.)  As a content of ones spirit, love is inseparable from faith, holiness, humility, joy, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

 

Love Chart 1

Love Chart 2         Love Chart 3 

 

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

A believer’s control of their own spiritual growth, experiences in the Spirit, prayer, intercession, and Pentecostal beliefs are considered, today.  No BATTLE AXE appears.  The “Yahoo! Answers” fighter using the ID “Ozzfoxx” (Level 2 with 461 points, a member since April 18, 2011) posted the question that follows.  [After sharing my response, I discovered a writer using ID “WwwdotBibleSelectordotcom” had posted a response with a definition stating “ “intercessory prayer” literally means that you are praying for someone or something other than yourself. ”  This same writer also stated that charismatic experiences are a form of “stage hypnosis” and “groupthink”.  I responded to this by sharing the following clarification:  “Many believers regard it as “intercessory prayer” when the Holy Spirit speaks to other members of the Godhead, and gives utterance on behalf of the individual believer.  Everything—petition, praise, reverence, submission, and worship—are all established upon a higher plane.”  Sadly, Ozzfoxx published a reply to “WwwdotBibleSelectordotcom” agreeing, and expressing regret that “it had been his whole life.” ]

 

What is actually happening during intercessory prayer?

I grew up in the Pentecostal church and have spoken in tongues, slain in the spirit and even nearly unconscious from intense prayer sessions at the alter.

I have since grown up and as an adult reconciled that the way I was raised is no different than many other religions, as these experiences occur all over the spectrum of belief systems. They used to be my primary reason for believing, but were not unique at all when compared to other belief systems. I also realized the evolution of belief systems themselves were all very suspect, especially mine. I am so grateful I was able to get out and have experienced such a weight off my shoulders and profound happiness like never before since doing so.

But my question is what was actually happening during those intense prayer sessions that made me shake uncontrollably; that made me lie on the floor uttering gibberish; that made me feel the “butterflies in my stomach” take over my body? When it happened, it felt pretty darn real. What is happening? Is it just the pure emotion of the situation? Because of these questions, I was able to rationalize delusional beliefs for years even when I felt at my core they never added up.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.  And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.  For we are saved by hope:  but hope that is seen is not hope:  for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?  But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.  Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:  for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:  but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.  (Romans 8:  22-27, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Why Christians Pray for Others (01/12/2014); GOD is Jesus? (01/13/2014); Intercession (12/27/2013); Jesus Is GOD’s Word (12/28/2013); Prayer on Behalf of Others? (11/25/2013); Too Much Holy Spirit? (11/19/2013); Understanding Peace? (11/20/2013); When Prayer Works (10/11/2012); Double Standard? (10/12/2012); Unwelcome Gifts? (09/17/2012); Does Believing Make It Happen? (09/18/2012)

 

“Ozzfoxx” Christian belief centers in acknowledging dependence upon GOD, and is not a matter of comprehending, or controlling divinity.  Yet, here are a few points you may have overlooked that are necessary to avoid spiritual confusion, and to be at peace with Christ:

(1.)  GOD is a spirit who has put forth material beings and objects that also are to be peculiar vessels of divine substance.  The transformation of mankind to exist as an eternal companion to divinity who is immortal and incorruptible is a comprehensive and profound sacred process that involves all the spheres of existence for created beings and living creatures (we say, heaven, earth, the universe); every aspect of divine order; multiple divine operations, eternal purposes, and sacred events (we say, miracles); permanent changes in the form, nature, process, and substance of existence; and the full extent of all material and spirit matter.

(2.)  Experiences in the Spirit all are directed to installing permanent changes for transformation of awareness and self-will that are not achieved through the mechanical processes for natural growth and learning.  The person who is “born again” through baptism must experience and realize a death of the inborn spirit with rebirth having new divine substance.  The believer must become mature and perfected (we say, grow up again; face growing pains), realizing new patterns within such aspects of their life experience as their abilities, desires, intent, purpose, readiness to learn, and self-expression.  A person is no longer to follow routines of life generated by their own appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, craving for sex), sense (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting), and emotional/mental functions (e.g., desire, fear, imagination, recall).  Believers are to contain and rely upon Spirit content from the makeup of GOD such as faith, forgiveness, holiness, joy, longsuffering, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

(3.)  As entities that are discrete and separate from the GODhead, angels, humans, the sacred beasts of heaven, and all other forms of life are endowed with awareness, person, and self-will.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, of the Law Giver, and of all Creation that is maintained or nourished through sacred law.  Sin is not a living thing; is not something carnal, concrete and material you may hold in your hand or put in your pocket; sin is no spirit substance created by GOD; yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.  As an artifact of separation from GOD, sin may dominate awareness and self-will in the living.

(4.)  In the same way GOD can not be known to created beings and living creatures by their relying entirely upon aspects of the flesh (e.g., appetite, sensation, emotional/mental features), sin may not be detected, eliminated and resisted relying entirely upon the finite tools of feeling, intellect, logic, mathematics, reason, philosophy, and science.  Sin first appeared among the angels; and the process of limiting sin now must address a broad range of issues including defiance of authority, presumption, exaggerated operations of pride as well as the detection of sin that is hidden and invisible until exposed using tools provided by GOD.  

(5.)  With this in view, experiences in the Spirit are all provided by GOD to foster submission and surrender of ones awareness and self-will.  There are many ongoing divine operations that must occur for Creation to be entirely free from the corruption and death that have been introduced by sin.  Mankind exists within a divine order that did not emerge from human ability, knowledge, skill, and potential.  While the living are to have benefit from Creation, Judgment, Revelation, Salvation, and Sanctification, these are all divine operations that do not genuinely allow human alterations and inputs. 

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  For example, (6.)  Analysis and academic study of experiences in the Spirit have failed to make them something predictable, that may be duplicated exactly, that may be explained in detail, or reproduced in a standardized manner.  All human beings are not believers in GOD, or his Christ.  All who have heard the Gospel, do not accept it; and all who do accept  have not received the same gifts and aspects of divine content.  Until perfected, believers all display such features as ambivalence, imbalance, inconsistency, inner conflict, instability, lack of knowledge and correct information, resisting the Spirit, and self-contradiction.  With this in view, for many within the body of believers faith and wisdom have answered:  It is not correct to question the presence of Spirit experiences (how few, how many, how long, etc.).  It is only necessary to accept their presence as a gift, a peculiar ministry, and phenomena for the body as a whole that will not be directly experienced by every individual member.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your knowledge and faith from GOD.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

What it means to “come” or “go” to Christ is considered, today.  Also, there is more on making statements that conform to Bible truth.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using ID “Janett” (Level 2 with 511 points, a member since August 4, 2011) posted the following:

 

Question about Mathew 11:28 “Come to Me”?

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

What does that mean and how does one “Go” to Him and “leave our burden?”

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  According to This Word (09/20/2013)—(5.)  Believers understand that many of the truths recorded in the holy writings, and attributed to Moses, may have been collected from oral traditions, and the priestly inheritance of families and tribes.  It is an aspect of our faith and spirit content from GOD, that this work was directed and overseen by the Holy Spirit.  Similarly, New Testament statements and quotations attributed to Jesus and others are affirmed through the witness of the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Prophecy).  Through the endowment of their own imparted, indwelling Spirit from Jesus, believers all may make assertions and descriptions of divine intent, pre-existence and heaven, for this is what it means to prophesy, and speak the word.  More than this, through ones own spirit content, the sacred truth and value of all things are to be discerned, acknowledged, and correctly applied.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;  Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.  For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?  And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.  (Hebrews 9:  11-15, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  All Things Possible? (09/17/2013); Can One Escape? (09/18/2013); Gentiles and the Law? (09/19/2013); His Burden is Light? (12/10/2012); Knowing Who Your Real Friends Are (12/11/2012); How Was GOD Known Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Jesus, King of Earth? (10/07/2012); Son of Man (11/28/2012); Given the Cloud of Witnesses (11/29/2012)

 

Janett, here are some points to consider that are often shared among Christian believers, that I trust will further nourish your inner spirit:

(1.)  To “come to Christ” is to accept the divinely supplied invitation to have a closer and more intimate relationship with GOD.  While GOD is a spirit, and does not have form, or physical substance, GOD may nonetheless be known and understood as alive, real, and present among created beings and living creatures upon the earth.  In the same way we know the presence of the wind by its effect upon the trees, a kite, the clouds, believers are taught to discern and recognize when GOD is using the things of our life experience (for example, birth, family, marriage, friendship, death and divorce).

(2.)  The make-up and substance of GOD is divinity that may be described as sacred content.  Included are inseparable aspects of divine being that include faith, holiness, love, longsuffering, truthfulness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  In baptism, believers receive these substances, and are spoken of as born again from divine DNA, so to speak.

(3.)  Many experience life as being full of darkness, fear, rottenness and violence.  By acknowledging Christ as an appearance of GOD in human form for the benefit of all Creation, a person may begin to experience a new awareness of human possibilities.  Their ideas about GOD must be changed in accordance with the things on record (the holy writings), wherein GOD has revealed himself to mankind using human events over the course of thousands of years, and thousands of lives.  There must be a transformation of the believer requiring multiple divine operations that may only be completed through the action of GOD.  It is in this sense that a believer rests relying upon GOD (we say, trusting divine grace).

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  For example, (4.)  Our carnal, material and social realties generate the human need for a mediator to reconnect us with the Creator.  Believers may speak to Jesus, just as to another living person, until they are correctly built up to speak directly to GOD in prayer through praise, through practice of various sacraments, through thanks giving, and through prophetic utterance.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.  Love has spoken.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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