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Today, the reply is on forgiveness as a release from sin that men on the earth receive through love and obedience appearing within the Son of GOD.  Forgiveness and mercy are intended for those who come to divine judgment, and are actually guilty.  Finite human tools such as intellect, science, and willpower do not provide mankind with sufficient integrity of being to appear sinless before divinity, or to display justification and worthiness for their own having eliminated sin. Salvation is the necessary divine operation wherein GOD extends forbearance, forgiveness, new life and reconciliation to mankind on the basis of the merit, sacrifice, virtue and works accomplished by Jesus Christ. It is written: 1st John 1: 5-10, KJV: 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality using the ID “Jeff” (Level 1 with 1 point, a member since November 20, 2018) posted the following:

 

I want to give all my guilt and regret and mistakes to God but I feel like I’m not worthy of forgiveness.?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand? But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared. I wait for the LORD, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope. My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning. Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption. And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. (Psalm 130: 3-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Paying For Our Sins? (08/20/2019); Spirit Using Human Form (08/16/2019); That Not Of Yourselves (08/13/2019); We Must Acknowledge Christ (08/08/2019); GOD Is The Creator? (07/04/2019); The Character of GOD (06/27/2019); Salvation Through Jesus Christ (03/25/2019); Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017)

 

Jeff”, divine forgiveness displays that GOD the Creator is worthy of love, obedience, praise, and reverence from his Creation. Developing and mature Christian believers are encouraged to accept the truth that forgiveness appears as an aspect of the divine active presence, eternal process, and inseparable sacred substance. Forgiveness is to be received as a fresh endowment of the same life essence (breath; spirit; word) that was imparted to Adam and Eve. Included were faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin. While this and other divine content establishes opportunities and possibilities for created beings and living creatures to be in relationship with the Creator as heirs, offspring, and sons and daughters to GOD, both Adam and Eve violated the instructions they had been given, and transgressed against the divine law. The character and makeup of mankind was altered in such a way that all the descendants of Adam now receive an inheritance of being vulnerable to the operations of sin and ungodliness.

It is our profound need: it is not our ignorance, nor is it our innocence. It is what we have become through human error, and our condition as sinners who need change, release and repentance that qualifies us to receive a ministry of forgiveness that is extended to mankind through Jesus Christ, the Son of GOD. It is not that we are worthy; it is that Christ continues to be received as worthy before the Father; and the Son may intercede on behalf of those who are truly guilty. It is not by our influence, our skill, our talents; it is because the makeup of GOD is made visible through divine judgment that features compassion, completeness, impartiality, mercy, and righteousness. On the basis of human accomplishments demonstrated through divinity using flesh and blood as Jesus Christ (we say, Incarnation), there now are no issues of merit and worthiness for sinners to receive forgiveness.

Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. 1st John 4: 8-11, King James Version (KJV): 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

2. Isaiah 53: 3-6, KJV: 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 3. Luke 7: 37-50, KJV: 37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, 38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment. 39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner. 40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on. 41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most? 43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged. 44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head. 45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet. 46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment. 47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little. 48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven. 49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? 50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, Christian believers are described as soldiers in the army of the Lord who all come under review, temptation, and testing.  Throughout the Bible, the holy names of GOD indicate there is divine authority over the armies of heaven.  Included are “a man of war,” Faithful and True, God of hosts, the captain of the Lord’s host, the LORD God of hosts, and the Word of God.  The eternal purpose of judgment is not punishment, rather, it is the harvesting of those who are fit and mature (we say, ripe) enough to serve as immortal, incorruptible companions to divinity.  Divine content will reside in every believer as the Spirit of Prophecy (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth) and should appear as attention to detail, diligence, enthusiasm, fervor, industriousness, intensity, meekness, thoroughness, vigilance, willingness to obey, and zeal that can be recognized through exhortation, praise, and prayer.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (India)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why would God punish someone who simply wants nothing to do with Him despite the fact they never killed or hurt anyone?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;  (Ephesians 6:  10-17, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Sin Must Be Personal (04/29/2016); A Dry Thirsty Land (05/01/2016); Sin Turned To Goals (05/02/2016); Iniquity Forgiven? (02/16/2016); All Sin Is Willful? (10/20/2015); About The End Of The World (08/30/2015); Holy Wars? (11/06/2014); Crimes Christ Crucified For? (11/07/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, all Christian believers are to understand that they have been recruited (many say, called) to serve divinity in numerous ways.  In addition to being the Creator, Deity has been revealed as a “god” of Deliverance, Judgment, Love, Reconciliation, and Salvation.  The living are to accept permanent changes in their makeup, and operate on the basis of an imparted, indwelling “spirit” received through rebirth during water baptism (i,e., death and burial of ones inborn spirit).  Believers continually are to display “the image of GOD” put forth by inseparable aspects from the makeup of Deity.  Included are faith, holiness, lovingkindness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The following points become important to consider:

(1.)  “Innocence” must be defined by GOD.  GOD is to be acknowledged as the single owner, protector, and sovereign ruler over all that exists.  Thus, Exodus 20:  3-6, King James Version (KJV):  3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.  4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.  5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:  for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;  6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

(2.)  Sinners are to be in a relationship expressing discipline, sacred knowledge, and specific skills.  As those “born again,” believers must prepare for and pass a final inspection, so to speak (i.e., we say, “final judgment”) that goes beyond the completeness and correctness of their appearance and the “uniform” they’ve been issued.  Included may be attitudes, behavior, diet and foods, productivity (we say, their fruits), and zeal.  Deuteronomy 14:  1-3, KJV:  1 Ye are the children of the LORD your God:  ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.  2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.  3 Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

(3.)  Commitment to things “secular”, denying GOD, forgetting, ignoring, neglecting, and omitting all have the same outcomes, and so are given marks similar to those for “iniquity” (i.e., deliberate and repeated defiance, rebellion, and stubbornness).  Thus, 2nd Timothy 2:  3-4, KJV:  3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.  4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Of course, there is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Scales for measuring enthusiasm, patient endurance (we say, longsuffering) and the genuine sacred value of “good works” will be used.  Thus, Isaiah 59:  12-19, KJV:  12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us:  for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;  13 In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.  14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off:  for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.  15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey:  and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.  16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor:  therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.  17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.  18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.  19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Innocence, repentance, and sinners in Christ as a new creation of GOD are topics, today.  Most sinners (not all) may be forgiven, justified, and reconciled to GOD through the atonement and propitiation for sin provided by the ministry of Jesus, the Son of the Highest.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (Canada)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why would God, a pure and holy Creator, want anything to do with a repentant sinner even if they were to kill their own child brutally?

Likewise, why would the killer, say a mother, want to have anything to do with a perfectly holy God after killing her infant child? She kills her baby without reason–no motive whatsoever–deliberately hurt one of God’s little ones–perhaps one of the most pure of God’s creations and the closest to Him in purity and goodness, but then wants something to do with God?

If she can kill an innocent baby who is uncorrupted by sin and worldly qualities, she certainly will not want anything to do with God who is the ultimate good.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.  And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:  (For until the law sin was in the world:  but sin is not imputed when there is no law.  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.  But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift:  for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.  For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  (Romans 5:  10-19, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Having Not The Law? (10/06/2016); Spirit Process not Feelings? (09/21/2016); Standards for Judging GOD? (08/22/2016); To Forgive is Divine? (04/06/2016);  Forgiveness and The Cross (04/04/2016); Why Punish Innocence? (05/22/2015); Justifying GOD? (03/15/2015)

 

“Anonymous”, GOD responds to those who acknowledge forgiveness and the operations of divinity through Jesus Christ as being a new creation, and divine offspring that are part of himself.  Human babies all inherit readiness, vulnerability, and willingness to sin from their parents; therefore, none may be called “innocent” before GOD, who himself is the standard for determining what is incorruptible and pure.  To exist, become permanently changed, and operate as those who will always be acceptable to GOD, the living must acquire substance from the divine makeup such as faith, holiness, humility, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  With this in view, repentance and returning to GOD are more correct, essential, and life-giving than are accusing, condemning, and rejecting divinity.  Mature Christian believers are taught to consistently use descriptions of GOD and reality that emerge from their own portion of the imparted, indwelling spirit (we say, divine breath, life essence, word) received from GOD.  Followers of the Lord are endowed and equipped to put aside the many errors that persist among sinners because they are anchored and tied to things that are carnal, emotional, material, and social.  Adam and Eve turned away from GOD because they were moved by covetousness, distrust, fear, pride, and sin.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, promotes nonexistence, and generates a return to chaos, confusion, and the condition that was in place before Creation.  Sin is no thing created by GOD, does not have influence upon the divine will, yet, may dominate awareness and self-will of created beings and living creatures.  Every human child now may receive spirit content from GOD and a new inheritance through Jesus Christ, the Second Adam.  Consider again how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Romans 3:  23, King James Version (KJV):  23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

(2.)  Ezekiel 18:  20-24, KJV:  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him:  in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GODand not that he should return from his ways, and live?  24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned:  in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

(3.)  Ezekiel 18:  30-32, KJV:  30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.  31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit:  for why will ye die, O house of Israel?  32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD:  wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Today, points are shared on the diffusion and spread of atonement for sin, covenant, divine law, and salvation through Jesus Christ.  Even where believers unintentionally have transgressed divine law through ignorance, the discharge of accountability, guilt, and remission of sin are only accomplished using blood from one who is “innocent” and not at fault.  Opportunities and possibilities for personal relationship with the Creator have been extended to all the living through confession, prayer, service, and worship.  All mankind are privileged to appear in some form of judgment (i.e., the divine convocations wherein divinity assigns value and further determines eternal duration for created beings and living creatures).  While those under judgment are accused only by the record of their deeds appearing in the Book of Life, occasion also is granted sinners who may have practiced disbelief and idol worship existing within their social group to declare their individual estimation of value for the things they willingly expressed and produced when applying the multiple gifts they were given from GOD as life.  It is written:  Romans 1:  18-25, King James Version (KJV):  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.  24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Garrett Briggs” (Level 4 with 2,738 points a member since November 05, 2010) posted the following:

 

Do you believe an islander or something of the like that has never been introduced to a Jewish based religion will go to hell?

If they have never been introduced to the religion then how would they know any better. Is ignorance bliss or do you believe the message will get to them someway somehow?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (Romans 8:  1-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  What True Believers Do (07/14/2016); On Carrying The Cross (02/28/2016); The Only One Sent? (02/19/2016); Why Prophets Were Sent to Israel (11/23/2014); The Need for Prophecy Then and Now (11/24/2014); GOD Angry With Us? (12/08/2013); So We Could Have Life? (12/09/2013)

 

“Garrett Briggs”, the holy writings include many statements that mature Christian believers embrace as assurances that the righteousness of GOD that appears as divine love also reaches those living in remote places who do not have the same sacred knowledge and law (i.e., formal covenant relationship), and who are expressing life through cultures very different and diverse from that granted by GOD to Moses and those delivered in Egypt.  For example, Romans 2:  14-16, King James Version (KJV):  14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:  15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)  16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

The covenant of Moses that stands out to many because of deliverance and punitive judgment, in fact, amplified, complimented, and satisfied terms within many earlier agreements and covenants between the Creator and the created.  Included were law and promises proclaimed to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  In the process of GOD, blood that conveys life and spirit are required to cleanse and purge away sin.  Thus, the active presence of divinity upon the earth was to be clearly expressed even among those who are carnal, material, and social through sacred priesthood, divine inheritance, and a lifestyle displaying continual worship that included offerings and sacrifices as well as sacred events (we say, miracles, prophetic demonstrations, signs) for the revelation of eternal purpose and sovereign will.

Jesus Christ has appeared among mankind upon the earth as an embodiment of full divinity (we say, the GODhead), and introduced a new covenant through his blood shed upon the cross.  What the Savior has done applies in spite of barriers and frameworks generated by time and space.  Through the ministry of Christ, spirit content from the makeup of GOD is imparted to indwell the living and to recover the dead.  For measureless ages, Deity existed as one spirit who is boundless, diffuse, formless, and limitless.  Through Jesus, GOD has also used flesh and blood to reveal authority, commitment to mankind, immutability, incorruption, multiple persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), rebirth, salvation, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Thus, it is written:  

(1.)  Hebrews 9:  14-16, KJV:  14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?  15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.  16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

(2.)  Romans 6:  16-18, KJV:  16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?  17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  John 10:  15-17, KJV:  15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father:  and I lay down my life for the sheep.  16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:  them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.  17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Points are shared on acknowledging divine rather than human standards for judgment and justice.  Men are not wrong to seek clear understanding of divine order and sacred process; and have a duty to confess their needs within relationship.  Yet, because created beings and living creatures repeatedly apply finite, imperfect standards now corrupted by sin, their defiant and disbelieving responses to divine love and judgment are often little more than foolishness—whining and complaining; condemning Deity; contending against the Almighty; denying divine authority; and fighting a war they can never win.   The expression of divine being will go forward eternally through displays of diversity and variety (we say, Creation).  Also, the multiple differences among created beings and living creatures will be assessed and assigned value.  It is appropriate that differences in essence, fullness and quality be recognized, endorsed, or removed.  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “jordyn” (Level 1 with 3 points, a member since April 15, 2014) posted the following:

Why does god send non believers to hell? if they have good intentions, and overall a good person… why punish innocence?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:  the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.  The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart:  the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.  The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever:  the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.  More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold:  sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.  Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.  Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.  Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me:  then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.  (Psalms 19:  7-13, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Justifying GOD? (03/15/2015); Relationship With Our Creator? (03/16/2015); Teachings on Judgment (06/06/2013); Those Who Never Heard? (06/07/2013); If You Are Sent…? (06/08/2013); Scriptures and Sayings? (06/09/2013)

“jordyn”, here are a few points shared among mature Christian believers that nourish growth of Spirit:

(1.)  In a demonstration of his faith, respect, and trust in GOD, Abraham who is called “the Friend of GOD” in the Bible, once asked a similar question of our Maker, thereby  interceding in the process of divine judgment on behalf of condemned sinners.  When told that Sodom, Gomorrah and other cities of the plain were about to be investigated and completely destroyed because of sin, the Patriarch petitioned that there continue to be the demonstration of divine love, mercy, and righteousness.  In Genesis 18:  23-25, King James Version (KJV) we read:  23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?  24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city:  wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?  25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?  26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

(2.)  When GOD called Moses to serve as prophet and spokesperson for divinity, he revealed the character and nature of divinity by proclaiming his deeds and reputation (we say, name) whereby Deity could be known among those who would be in covenant relationship.  Thus, we read in Genesis 34:  5-8, KJV:  5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.  6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,  7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.  8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

(3.)  On the one hand, all the workings of divine law and judgment must be in accordance with fixed standards and unchanging truth that acknowledge and maintain the aspects of divinity that are immutable and incorruptible.  The meaning of “innocence” within the courts of heaven must go beyond assessments of attitude, emotions, physical behavior, and social conduct.  Those who are to be life companions with Deity are embraced responding to the presence and application of divine life essence and sacred substance (we say, the breath of life, spirit, Word) throughout a person’s life experience.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  Speaking through the Apostle Paul, GOD speaks to those labeled as sinners and wicked.  Forgiveness and salvation are available as expressions of grace and divine prerogative.  Consider Romans 6:  16-23, KJV:  16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?  17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.  18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.  19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.  20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.  21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.  23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Today, answer is made to an accuser assuming that babies and children are more righteous than GOD, therefore, divinity should be condemned for their deaths.  In the same way no one lacking a thorough knowledge of criminal law, courtroom procedure and trial process can walk in from off the street to preside over the tribunal for the accused Boston bomber, no mere mortal lacking ability to conceive and set into place divine order for a universe should presume to “rise from the dust” and think to serve as an acceptable judge against the Almighty.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “dodo” (Level 4 with 3,121 points, a member since November 19, 2014) attacked with the following:

 

Christians believes that none of us humans are innocent because of the original sin by adam and eve.?

is that just justify gods killing of babies and children

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called:  and whom he called, them he also justified:  and whom he justified, them he also glorified.  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?  He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.  Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.  (Romans 8:  28-34, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Death Penalty for Sins? (11/30/2014); About “The Just” (10/29/2014); Antidotes to the Poisons (10/30/2014); A Culture of Judgment? (03/20/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Not Even Sorry? (03/10/2013); Of War and Judgment (01/08/2013); Heart, Brain or Spirit? (01/09/2013); The Common Danger (01/02/2013); The Root of Jesse (01/03/2013)

 

“dodo”, you seem to be registering multiple complaints against divinity, here, because 1) Christians might believe things you condemn; 2) you are not yet a Christian; and 3) you do not correctly acknowledge and apply the measure of Spirit from GOD residing within you.  Those who belong to Christ make no such accusations.  This raises questions on how complete and correct your sacred (not secular) knowledge may be.  (For example, many mistakenly think that “original sin” means sexual intercourse, and ignore the lack of faith, respect and trust shown by the first pair as having been the offense against divinity.)  To truly be in a position to condemn GOD, you would have to at least be more incorruptible, perfect, and righteous than he.

In your view, it seems to be wrong that GOD should preside and reign as a judge over his own Creation; and humans should exist as immortal.  Mankind should be exempt from all death, judgment, and punishment for sin.  While you and those having the same depth of understanding that you display are equipped and prepared in your own minds to establish life in the earth without conflict, sin, and warfare that derives from our animal makeup, it remains sin can not be eliminated using such finite tools as emotion, logic, money, persuasion, philosophy, science and violence.

In the same way you are not seeking to justify the existence of GOD (and could not if you wanted to), you can not justify the existence of sin and sinners (even where they are family and friends).  To accuse GOD of destroying babies and children through abortion, destruction of wicked nations (e.g., Amalek, Jericho, Sodom and Gomorrah) or sex trafficking, offers no solution to end what you are outraged by.  There would have to be a transformation of human substance, and the sphere of life for mankind that only divinity might accomplish.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and properly apprehended.  There now are multiple ongoing sacred operations to reverse the effects of sin.  Through the ministry of Jesus Christ upon the earth and from heaven, those who confess the need of permanent change from GOD are granted a fresh endowment of spirit matter from the makeup of Deity that permits believers to recognize and resist sin.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, humility, joy, love, longsuffering, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  GOD will justify and glorify those who conform to the image of his Son.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith and spiritual maturity.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC