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Satan Cast Into The Lake of Fire

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Today, the reply is on Christ-likeness, lawful process, the image of GOD, and other requirements from divinity that pertain to eliminating evil and wickedness. The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality using the ID “Pat C.” (Level 7 with 53,566 points, a member since December 10, 2011) posted the following:

 

If people are made wicked and evil by the devil, why didn’t god just kill the devil instead of murdering the entire world population?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matthew 25: 41-46, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Peace Or A Sword? (01/29/2019); The Revelation of Mercy (01/28/2019); Divine Forgiveness and Justice (01/01/2019); The Elimination of Death? (05/13/2018); The Servitude of Angels (08/28/2017); Holy Fire From GOD? (04/27/2017); About Lucifer in Scripture (02/18/2016); The Origin of Sin? (07/31/2015)

 

Pat C.”, here are some ideas that many developing and mature Christian believers are willing to examine that speak to divinity killing created beings and living creatures as a solution to remove evil, sin, and wickedness:

1. Given that divinity is immortal and immutable, the character, makeup, process and substance for many elements within the divine Creation of heaven and earth display completeness, duration, integrity, permanence, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of GOD.

2. While there are angels, sacred beasts, and men existing in heaven who have been resurrected or translated from the earth that are not mortal and who display personhood and self-will, only GOD displays divine fullness, and is everlasting and immortal. Inseparable aspects of spirit content are to appear as Christ-likeness and the image of GOD. Included are balance, faith, forbearance, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, restraint, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

3. Both death (the completion or finish of ones mortality) and the second death (annihilation) are incurred as a sanction of divine law used to acknowledge the presence or lack of sacred substances (we say, breath, life essence, spirit, word) imparted from the makeup of GOD that are required for the living to communicate, exchange and interact with divinity in ongoing relationships (we say, to exist as life companions with GOD).

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Devils may not be killed or lose their endowment of consciousness and will; and they are neither mortal nor immortal. Even so, they endure at the discretion of divinity, and may be utterly destroyed using holy fire that make visible otherwise unseen divine order, dominion, and final judgment.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, answer is made to an accuser assuming that babies and children are more righteous than GOD, therefore, divinity should be condemned for their deaths.  In the same way no one lacking a thorough knowledge of criminal law, courtroom procedure and trial process can walk in from off the street to preside over the tribunal for the accused Boston bomber, no mere mortal lacking ability to conceive and set into place divine order for a universe should presume to “rise from the dust” and think to serve as an acceptable judge against the Almighty.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “dodo” (Level 4 with 3,121 points, a member since November 19, 2014) attacked with the following:

 

Christians believes that none of us humans are innocent because of the original sin by adam and eve.?

is that just justify gods killing of babies and children

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called:  and whom he called, them he also justified:  and whom he justified, them he also glorified.  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?  He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.  Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.  (Romans 8:  28-34, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Death Penalty for Sins? (11/30/2014); About “The Just” (10/29/2014); Antidotes to the Poisons (10/30/2014); A Culture of Judgment? (03/20/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); Wanting To Have Our Way (03/09/2013); Not Even Sorry? (03/10/2013); Of War and Judgment (01/08/2013); Heart, Brain or Spirit? (01/09/2013); The Common Danger (01/02/2013); The Root of Jesse (01/03/2013)

 

“dodo”, you seem to be registering multiple complaints against divinity, here, because 1) Christians might believe things you condemn; 2) you are not yet a Christian; and 3) you do not correctly acknowledge and apply the measure of Spirit from GOD residing within you.  Those who belong to Christ make no such accusations.  This raises questions on how complete and correct your sacred (not secular) knowledge may be.  (For example, many mistakenly think that “original sin” means sexual intercourse, and ignore the lack of faith, respect and trust shown by the first pair as having been the offense against divinity.)  To truly be in a position to condemn GOD, you would have to at least be more incorruptible, perfect, and righteous than he.

In your view, it seems to be wrong that GOD should preside and reign as a judge over his own Creation; and humans should exist as immortal.  Mankind should be exempt from all death, judgment, and punishment for sin.  While you and those having the same depth of understanding that you display are equipped and prepared in your own minds to establish life in the earth without conflict, sin, and warfare that derives from our animal makeup, it remains sin can not be eliminated using such finite tools as emotion, logic, money, persuasion, philosophy, science and violence.

In the same way you are not seeking to justify the existence of GOD (and could not if you wanted to), you can not justify the existence of sin and sinners (even where they are family and friends).  To accuse GOD of destroying babies and children through abortion, destruction of wicked nations (e.g., Amalek, Jericho, Sodom and Gomorrah) or sex trafficking, offers no solution to end what you are outraged by.  There would have to be a transformation of human substance, and the sphere of life for mankind that only divinity might accomplish.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and properly apprehended.  There now are multiple ongoing sacred operations to reverse the effects of sin.  Through the ministry of Jesus Christ upon the earth and from heaven, those who confess the need of permanent change from GOD are granted a fresh endowment of spirit matter from the makeup of Deity that permits believers to recognize and resist sin.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, humility, joy, love, longsuffering, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  GOD will justify and glorify those who conform to the image of his Son.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith and spiritual maturity.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Divine anger against mankind because of the crucifixion, and the Gospel of divine love are topics, today.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Mike” (Level 3 with 1,261 points, a member since March 29, 2012) posted the following originally asked on Yahoo Answers United Kingdom:

 

Has ‘God’ given up on mankind for the Killing….?

of his one and only son. for which i might add he did not intervene to save him..does this mean god is totally Evil, in fact he’s so evil, that satan went into retirement as he just couldn’t top that evil act….standing by and watching your son get KILLED,.

Is god EVIL and Abandoned the human race,abandoned as he was about on a daily basis 2000 years ago and then pooooof, he watched his son get KILLED and decided he’d had enough as there has been no sight or sound of him since…explain that.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,  And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?  Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:  The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.  And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.  (Matthew 11:  2-6, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divine Love Revealed? (10/02/2013); Law A Schoolmaster (10/03/2013); Dying in Terror and Joy? (09/28/2013); Animals Do Not Sin? (09/29/2013); Jesus Lives! (05/04/2013); Experience Is Not Evidence? (05/05/2013); The Love of GOD (03/03/2013); Our Need for a Son (03/04/2013); Unless You Repent (03/05/2013); Does GOD Feel? (10/05/2012); How Was GOD Known Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Jesus, King of Earth? (10/07/2012); Parental Duty? (10/08/2012)

 

“Mike”, every Christian believer asks that same question (maybe not the same way, though); and none feel they have a complete and proper answer until they truly begin to discover the truth of divine love.  I can only share a few points, here, that have been helpful to most Christian believers:

(1.)  To know the love of GOD, there are so many changes we have to make in how we think, reason, and behave that, when we attempt to fully understand the things specially provided to us by GOD intended to help us know him as he is, Christians have been taught to say, “we must be born again.”  Our entire approach to reality is to be permanently altered by our receiving of divine substance; therefore we say, a person must have the Holy Spirit:  GOD bestows a portion of his own eternal content and “makeup” (so to speak) whereby believers may recognize and begin to understand divine events and sacred purposes.  Through divine operations in baptism, the person “born again” is given inseparable material including faith, holiness, joy, love, truthfulness, wisdom and wrath against sin.  Moreover, born again, the believer must gradually “grow up” again (and that includes the challenge of “growing pains”).

(2.)  The experience of coming into right relationship with GOD also involves accepting accountability for spiritual duties, for correct recognition of the awesomeness of GOD (some say, fear of the Lord), for continual recognition of divine presence, for demonstrating and displaying the righteousness of divine law, and for heartfelt acknowledgment of GOD (we say, worship) expressing gratitude, humility, and respect.

There is far more to be said, reasonably shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (3.) What is the good news about GOD a person would like to hear:  that there is forgiveness?  that there is love?  that there is a promise of life?  Believers who are trusting GOD also are sharing that very “good news” (we say, Gospel).  When first presented to us from others like ourselves (instead of from angels), the Gospel may seem foolish, illogical, impossible and unbelievable for it presents truth that is otherwise invisible to finite created beings and living creatures.  Multiple divine operations, sacred events and eternal truths are being presented that reveal the sure and certain love of GOD to mankind.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.  Jesus will return.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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