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Today, reply is on believing as a sacred operation made in response to divine revelation, rather than an emotional, intellectual, or mental event responding to life experiences and worldly occurrences. Consciousness within created beings and living creatures must acknowledge and respond to active presence that appears as the inseparable aspects of divine fullness (we say, the makeup of GOD). While sinners will begin with ideas and understandings that are simple and easily understood, eventually they are to take on the duties and practices of mature Christian adults that are profound expressions of divine law, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of the Creator. The writer at the public forum, “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “veggiegirl777” (Level 4 with 3,344 points, a member since March 26, 2009) posted the following:

 

Why does Christianity say we have to believe Jesus died for our sins in order to be saved?

In the Bible, I have read many parts of it, it only quotes Jesus as saying you have to believe in him.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3: 16-21, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Offering Yourself To Christ? (12/27/2018); Discovering The Holy Spirit (12/23/2018); The Water, The Fire (10/10/2017); Become Like Jesus Christ? (10/27/2016); Belief, Content And Works? (02/12/2016); By More Than Believing (12/04/2015); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013); Science and the Laws of Nature? (03/23/2013)

 

veggiegirl777”, speaking as mature Christian believers, born-again followers of Jesus should share the understanding that “belief” in Christ as Lord and Savior is more than a choice or decision grounded in logic, carnal reason, and critical thinking. Christians are to accept and undergo permanent change. The belief spoken of within the holy writings and the shared doctrine for the church speak to the need for divine process that is generated and completed through exchanges and interactions of inseparable aspects of divine fullness. Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. Sinners who turn to GOD will experience repentance as an operation of the imparted, indwelling Spirit, who also is a member of the Godhead (we say, divinity; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit). Most developing believers begin their journey returning to the Creator being grounded in secular knowledge, worldly practices, and transgressions of divine law (we say, sins). New believers must acquire sacred knowledge, skill performing sacred practices (i.e., sacraments such as baptism, marriage, praise, prayer), and maturity (e.g., accountability, balance, consistency, sobriety, stability). Once sinners are transformed through baptism to exist as vessels of divine life essence (we say, breath; spirit; word), they are to continue using daily routines and lifestyles that display the influence of active presence and their new relationship as the offspring of GOD, joint heirs with Jesus Christ, and the new creation.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

Colossians 3: 1-12, King James Version (KJV): 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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THE BLACK PHOENIX

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the dying Christ

 

Today, reply is on atonement, Christ dying on the cross, and other divine works as the platform for meaning and value of human spiritual works such as belief, praise, and sacrifice.  A place in the divine presence (we say, Heaven) can not be bought and sold, or earned by performing human deeds as though having access to GOD may be treated as material property within a human economy.  Through the ministry of reconciliation and salvation provided by Jesus Christ, “logical sense” is replaced by exchange and interaction among spirit content from the makeup of GOD, and finite human works are replaced by sacred process, operations of the Holy Spirit, and works requiring accord among the three persons of the full GODhead.  A simple word for this is “grace”.  The fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “medusa” (Level 4 with 3,028 points, a member since August 23, 2015) posted the following:

Does the crucifixion and blood sacrifice make logical sense for earning a heaven rather than something like deeds?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious:  and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious:  but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient:  whereunto also they were appointed.  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:  which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.  (1st Peter 2:  5-10, King James Version, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  GOD Appearing As Christ (12/03/2017); Wisdom In A Mystery (11/22/2017); Relying on Sacred “Evidence” (11/20/2017); About Using “Sacred Logic” (11/19/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); The Cross and Critical Thinking? (04/13/2016); The Gospel not Logical? (09/16/2012); Unwelcome Gifts? (09/17/2012)

“medusa”, relying on sacred knowledge to talk about sacred themes, a different way of speaking and thinking must be used.  Among Christian believers, meaning, quality, and value for multiple aspects of existence and life are being determined by the living ministry of Jesus Christ that he has shared on the earth, and continues to provide from heaven.  Sinners who become “born again” will undergo permanent changes through operations of spirit content imparted from the makeup of GOD as acts of love and free gifts more than as reward or wages earned through their own works.  Included are inseparable aspects of divine fullness such as faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The finite frameworks we usually rely on (e.g., emotion, intellect, carnal reason, secular knowledge, thought, time, space), will continue to be used, however, what they supply must be in accordance to divine order, so to speak.

For many Christians and Jews, that Jesus dies on the cross to provide blood for cleansing and remission of sin (we say, atonement and propitiation) is only a single aspect of the full sacred work he completes.  Jesus also makes a prophetic demonstration wherein he becomes the embodiment of sin, and is destroyed in final judgment.  He is raised from the dead, and returns to heaven to finish peculiar works already begun (e.g., building the Holy City (New Jerusalem), judgment of the righteous, preparation for judgment of the wicked).  The nature of love, obedience and sacrifice are shown to be faithfulness, humility, reverence, and unselfishness.  For one must put aside their own awareness, desire and self-will to carry out the will of another, and become accountable for all costs, loss, and related events that may follow.

The salvation Christians speak of is complex, for both divine works and human deeds of acknowledgment performed through endowments of imparted Spirit should come into view.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Galatians 2:  20, King James Version (KJV):  20 I am crucified with Christ:  nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:  and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

(2.)  2nd Corinthians 5:  17, KJV:  17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 5:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Abstrations

 

Today, focus is on divinity being revealed directly to those who are simple, rather than only to scientists, great scholars and thought leaders of the world.  Created beings and living creatures can not exist or interact intimate and personal relationship(s) with their Creator unless there be a continuous revelation that makes GOD knowable, known, and approachable.  Divinity must be acknowledged as more than an abstraction or theoretical premise.  For discovering and continuing godliness, the excellence of sacred knowledge, consecrated discipline and practice, and divine spirit process is far above that for secular knowledge, worldly politics, and popular culture, and are on the same higher level as divine law, sacred mystery, and eternal purpose.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “SupaStar” (Level 5 with 7,558 points, a member since August 07, 2014) posted the following:

 

Why does God only speak directly with the ignorant and uneducated? Why does he never speak to people with higher levels of education?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:  Which none of the princes of this world knew:  for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  (1st Corinthians 2:  7-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  About Using “Sacred Logic” (11/19/2017); Confused By Spiritual Puzzles (11/13/2017); GOD Is Imparting Truth (10/30/2017); Idolatry — Exalting Human Devices? (09/21/2017); From Dust Thou Art (09/07/2017); Christianity Is Not Mindless (05/02/2017); Proof That GOD Exists? (10/16/2016); Abstractions, Atheism and I.Q. (08/18/2016)

 

“SupaStar”, among Christian believers, those serving as prophets and spokespersons of GOD are made fit for their office by first receiving fresh sacred endowments of spirit content from the makeup of divinity.  Included are faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Having deposits of Spirit imparted from GOD, men who express humility are edified (built up) to display “the image of GOD” required for ongoing intimate and personal relationship with GOD that is the platform for their obedience and unselfish service.

Formal education, intelligence, and secular knowledge are intended to enable mankind to operate within a physical sphere of life continually encountering carnal, material, secular and social expressions of flesh.  Thus, balance, control and influence (we say, power) over consciousness and self-will are demonstrated through appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching) and emotion/mental functions (e.g., anger, fear, imagination, recall, sorrow). 

Merely having existence and life essence (i.e., divine breath, spirit, Word) do not fit mankind to display the character, makeup, person, possibilities, and sovereign will of GOD.  So to speak, those most useful to GOD will be those who are plain, who are most transparent, and who best mirror, project and reflect his image—not their own.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Exodus 19:  4-6, King James Version (KJV):  4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself.  5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people:  for all the earth is mine:  6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

(2.)  2nd Corinthians 4:  6-12, KJV:  6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.  7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.  8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;  9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;  10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.  11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.  12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

(3.)  Colossians 2:  8-12, KJV:  8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.  10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:  11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:  12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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esus-is-lord-the-lord

 

Today, reply is on the importance of sacred “evidence” instead of “instinct” when seeking sacred truth.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Nerdy Keith” (Level 7 with 37,633 points, a member since April 21, 2012) posted the following:

 

Is relying on evidence rather than instinct the better choice?

This was asked previously and a few of you felt I was not clear enough on the purpose of the question so I will explain.

I have heard a few persons of faith claim that atheists lack instinct due to relying too much of skepticism and logic. But too little on instincts. I have a suspicion that the word “instincts” in this case is an alternative word for “gut feeling”.

I simply responded with evidence is important. What are your views on this issue?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.  For by it the elders obtained a good report.  Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.  (Hebrews 11:  1-3, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  About Using “Sacred Logic” (11/19/2017); Without the Divine Image? (10/15/2017); The Cross and Arbitrary Differences (06/17/2016); Bible and Spirit (04/26/2014); Personality? (04/27/2014); Salvation for Atheists? (06/14/2013); Church is Good? (06/15/2013)

 

“Nerdy Keith”, in the same way basketball is not the evidence for baseball, football and hockey simply because they all exist as organized athletic competition, animal instinct, imagination, logic and recall are not evidence of divinity simply because they exist as conceptual, intangible, invisible, aspects of mind.  Correctly understood, objects and operations that pertain to Christian godliness and spiritual beliefs may only be properly recognized and responded to when compared to and contrasted against other elements and features that also contain and convey the same spirit substance imparted to mankind from the makeup of divinity.  (e.g., events, divine law, oneself, other persons, and the holy writings).  Saying this another way, spiritual things must be spiritually discerned.  Christian belief is a full and closed system; therefore, the evidence for sacred truth is itself sacred truth:  the evidence for faith is faith, the evidence for righteousness is righteousness, and the evidence for the Spirit of GOD is the Spirit of GOD. 

Acknowledging GOD as the origin for all that exist and have life, we speak of a Creator as the source of our life essence (we say, breath, spirit, Word).  Mankind is to continually display the “image of GOD,” that is, the character, makeup, and spirit content that describe divinity.  Even so, as a created being and living creature, mankind is capable of displaying an animal, human, or divine nature; may present elements from all three at the same time; and is vulnerable to the operations of sin that dominate awareness and self-will in opposition to divine existence.  Instinct is a feature of animal intelligence generated through operations of the flesh such as appetite (hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (hearing, seeing, tasting, touching) and emotion/mental functions (anger, fear, sorrow).  Divine intelligence is ascribed as sacred knowledge, revelation, and imparted spirit content from GOD (e.g., faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, wrath against sin.)

Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible provided from testimony and witness under oath declared during sacred judgment:

(1.)  1st Corinthians 12:  3, King James Version (KJV):  3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 2:  12-14, KJV:  12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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A Depiction of GODhead

A Depiction of the GODhead

 

Today, reply is on using human logic and other intellectual tools to know divinity.  To know divinity is to have consciousness of things eternal, invisible, and possible for Deity, not merely the things that are seen and temporal.  Sacred truth compasses and embraces immaterial substance and features that include eternity, glory, righteousness, and spirit.  Knowing divinity and being in continuous relationship with divine persons require a higher level of emotional, mental, and spiritual operation than that we apply, and use as academic and secular knowledge.  The core and platform for complete, correct recognition and response to the active presence who we speak of as GOD are only established through operations among spirit substances that we give the name of gifts, endowments, eternal life, new creation, perfection, rebirth, redemption, resurrection, and revelation.  By the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) sinners are supplied to develop as Christian believers capable of commitment, discernment, and genuine spiritual growth.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “maulporphy” (Level 5 with 9,109 points, a member since March 24, 2016) posted the following:

 

Say, this god of yours: he’s three, but actually only one? That defies logic. How does that work?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath:  for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:  but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.  Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.  For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool:   but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.  (Isaiah 51:  6-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  All Divinity in ONE? (11/17/2017); A Lawless, Violent GOD? (11/16/2017); Confused By Spiritual Puzzles (11/13/2017); Idolatry — Exalting Human Devices? (09/21/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); Christianity Is Not Mindless (05/02/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016)

 

“maulporphy”, together, the many tools of “mind” relied on by created beings and living creatures are useful for describing and imposing order on carnal, material, secular, and social life experience, yet, are finite, inadequate and profane when applied to the task of knowing the Holy.  Such features as imagination, intellect, carnal reason, critical thinking, the frameworks of time and space have less value where we focus on divine order, the makeup and process of divinity, and continuing in intimate or personal relationship with the Creator who is immortal and incorruptible.

Where “logic” means rules that should be applied to establish meaning, order, quality, and value, Christian believers may speak of “sacred logic,” divine law, and the order that must appear on the basis of GOD existing as the totality of all divine spirit substance (we say, the Godhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit) as well as appearing in human form (the Incarnation; the Son of Man, Jesus Christ).  In accordance with sacred logic, the makeup of divinity includes inseparable aspects such as faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, person, presence, sovereign will, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  In measures that are scaled for their form, service, and sphere of life, spirit content from GOD may be conveyed and imparted to the living as life essence (we say, breath, spirit, Word).

Christians rely on things provided by GOD to make divinity knowable, known, accessible and approachable (we say, divine revelation).  For example, the Bible is a collection (library) of separate sacred books documenting the appearance of GOD on the earth and within the heaven using thousands of events in thousands of lives over the course of thousands of years.  Consider again the following that acknowledges the difficulty of coming into right sacred knowledge and relationship with GOD, and how spirit content must be provided to sinners for them to become believers:

(1.)  Acts 7:  51-60, King James Version (KJV):  51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost:  as your fathers did, so do ye.  52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:  53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.  54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.  55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,  56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.  57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,  58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him:  and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.  59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.  60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

(2.)  Philippians 3:  7-14, KJV:  7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.  8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:  for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,  9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:  10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;  11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.  12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect:  but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.  13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended:  but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,  14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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godsimage

 

Today, focus is on disbelief and the rejection of Christ as a result from sinners being unable to be aware of their true human nature imparted from GOD.  Those who are deceived complain that salvation from GOD to restore divinity within mankind makes you a misfit, an outcast, and a stranger to others.  In their view, it is unfair that a judgment be carried out to determine the spirit content of all living.  Yet, it must be acknowledged that every person has come forth “in the image of GOD,” however, their displays of the divinely intended human nature can be brief and irregular.  The process of Christian belief, therefore, may be described as one to ensure uninterrupted expression of a character and nature endowed with inseparable aspects from the makeup of divinity.  Included are awe, faith, forbearance, gratitude, holiness, hope, longsuffering, love, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  While the Creator is reconciled to mankind through Jesus Christ, and the transformation of man to exist as an immortal, incorruptible companion of divinity will continue until the Savior returns in glory, GOD remains unwilling to approve and preserve wickedness.  Mankind is to be a manifestation of divine righteousness; and in the same way divine law exposes the true character and presence of sin, so does the imparted Spirit of GOD.  Through the continuing operations of sin, the image of GOD shown by mankind has become defiled, exaggerated and warped with regard to authority, compassion, justice, and violence.  To accomplish the eternal purposes of existence and life, the operations of divine love must continue to oppose deceit, selfishness, and the exalting of flesh to the casting down of Spirit.  The living are granted rebirth and the opportunity to mature as divine offspring and heirs with the Lord; and their inheritance provides correction, guidance and instruction that enables them to detect, expose and resist sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “john” (Level 1 with 4 points, a member since January 08, 2015) posted the following:

 

The real logic of christianity is the hatred of our own human nature?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  If thou prepare thine heart, and stretch out thine hands toward him;  If iniquity be in thine hand, put it far away, and let not wickedness dwell in thy tabernacles.  For then shalt thou lift up thy face without spot; yea, thou shalt be stedfast, and shalt not fear:  Because thou shalt forget thy misery, and remember it as waters that pass away:  And thine age shall be clearer than the noonday:  thou shalt shine forth, thou shalt be as the morning.  And thou shalt be secure, because there is hope; yea, thou shalt dig about thee, and thou shalt take thy rest in safety.  Also thou shalt lie down, and none shall make thee afraid; yea, many shall make suit unto thee.  But the eyes of the wicked shall fail, and they shall not escape, and their hope shall be as the giving up of the ghost.  (Job 11:  13-20, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Foolish People and Unwise (10/26/2017); Without the Divine Image? (10/15/2017); Rebirth, Growth and Transformation (09/29/2017); Knowing the Invisible GOD (09/17/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); An Habitation of GOD (07/24/2016); The Cross and Mankind (05/13/2016)

 

“john”, I would like to share some ideas from Christian belief, here, that may be new to a lot of people.  While mankind has been “made in the image of GOD,” from the beginning, man has been made as a temporal creation intended to exist within a framework of time and space.  Man was made with the intent that he pass through change, discovery, growth and progression.  Man is to exist as a companion to divinity, and must receive a complete and correct revelation of divinity whereby the active presence who is GOD is made knowable, known, accessible, and approachable.

Independence and separation between mankind and the Creator are required for humanity to display authenticity as the handiwork of GOD, and genuine integrity as part of Creation.  Aspects of the living such as consciousness, feeling, mind, and self-will must be able to freely interact with and respond to operations within themselves as well as acknowledge objects, other created beings and living creatures within the spheres of life, and the Creator who is sovereign over all.

Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and all divine order.  That being said, the operations of sin are contrary to human nature, yet, sin may dominate awareness and self-will in the form of appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching) and emotion/mental functions (e.g., anger, desire, fear, imagination, recall).  The influence and power of sin is so great that countless people have been inclined to think of sin as natural, normal, and a “necessary” part of the human condition.

In the same way, we are cautioned and given instruction to avoid counterfeit money in the market place, mature Christian believers are cautioned to avoid the counterfeits of human nature that are created through sin.  Developing believers are to practice discernment (using their own imparted spirit content from the makeup of GOD as a standard to recognize and respond to the same spirit as it resides within doctrines, events, oneself, other persons, holy writings, godly possibilities, prophecy, etc.).  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible to present the “logic” of divine process that centers in love, not hate:

(1.)  Galatians 5:  16-23, KJV:  16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.  17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh:  and these are contrary the one to the other:  so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.  18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.  19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,  20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,  21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like:  of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,  23 Meekness, temperance:  against such there is no law.

(2.)  Romans 6:  3-13, KJV:  3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?  4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:  that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.  7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.  8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:  9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.  10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once:  but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.  11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.  12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.  13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin:  but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  1st John 4:  7-11, KJV:  7 Beloved, let us love one another:  for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.  9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.  10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.  11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

 
THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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Today, the value of logic and other finite tools for knowing are considered.  The appropriate human tools required to process assumptions, recorded data, observations, propositions, and secular knowledge include intelligence, carnal reason, critical thinking, and recall.  When asked to share sacred knowledge and to impart spirit content to others the appropriate tools to be used by Christian believers include divine law, doctrine, parables, enduring principles, promises, prophecy, proverbs, personal testimony, warnings, and texts from the holy writings.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

Why don’t christians use their own logic instead of parroting what their pastors tell them?

I’ve never met a Christian that can use their own logic to prove that God exists.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,  According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:  Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.  And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;  And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;  And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.  For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.  Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure:  for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.  (2nd Peter 1:  2-11, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  On Being Too Smart (04/30/2017); How To Know GOD? (12/12/2016); (09/13/2016); The Best Starting Point? Possible For Intelligent People? (02/07/2016); The Correct Prescription? (11/19/2015); Knowing? (05/24/2015); Believers and Evolution? (02/02/2015); GOD in Schools? (12/20/2012); Naaman the Leper (12/21/2012)

 

“Anonymous”, your statement is illogical; do not be surprised that non-Christians and sinners can not think and perform like Christians.  In effect you have shared a flawed syllogism like saying, “All cats are felines.  Lions and tigers are felines.  I’ve never seen a kitten that roars like a tiger.”  In the same way we are to accept ABCDEFG “by definition” and as a fixed pattern in existence that also includes XYZ, sinners and those outside the system of Christian belief first must accept that GOD is an “active presence” who displays person and eternal purpose, and has put forth everything described as being in existence.  Saying this another way, GOD is a breath (life essence, spirit, word), who is immortal, incorruptible, and invisible and must be known on the basis of one own spirit substance.  The process from mathematics that uses theorems, corollaries, and precise calculations for demonstrating what we call “proofs” can not be transferred to the Social Science of Theology.  Similarly, Aristotelian logic and discursive thought are not the primary tools in the operations for knowing GOD, or for acquiring sacred knowledge. 

To eventually function as mature Christians, the living must experience growth and permanent changes in their awareness and self-will by receiving inseparable spirit content from the makeup of divinity.  Included are faith, holiness, hope, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Faith is made up only of faith, holiness only of holiness, wisdom only of wisdom, etc.  Where one appears all are present, however, not always in the same distribution, measure and proportion (so to speak, “you can’t separate the wet from the water”).  Thus, there is a dynamic of balance, exchange, interaction, movement, and reconfiguration among these aspects of divinity.

Correctly understood, self-promotion is never the objective of a Christian whether sharing in the public forum or in private.  The believer is to display the heart, mind, and spirit of Jesus Christ.  The most correct responses for those sharing Christian belief will center in admonition, doctrine, instruction, ministry, and personal testimony (i.e., eye-witness accounts and verbal statements shared under oath that have weight as evidence in judgment as a full manifesting of the speakers integrity).  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  2nd Timothy 3:  16-17, King James Version (KJV):  16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

(2.)  2nd Timothy 2:  14-16, KJV:  14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.  15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  16 But shun profane and vain babblings:  for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

(3.)  Psalms 119:  98-101, KJV:  98 Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies:  for they are ever with me.  99 I have more understanding than all my teachers:  for thy testimonies are my meditation.  100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.  101 I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word.

(4.)  1st Corinthians 1:  9-10, KJV:  9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.  10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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