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Jerusalem Visit by Paul the Apostle
A depiction of James, the brother of Jesus, and the Elders in Jerusalem meeting with the Apostles Paul and Peter


Today, reply is made on James, Paul, Peter and Matthias; authority; and succession within the early church.  The criteria for being acknowledged as an apostle was more than simply having been in association with Jesus from the beginning of his ministry to his dying on the cross.  The apostles all were chosen and installed to testify and witness to the resurrection of Jesus, to authentic the falling of the Holy Ghost, and to certify the genuine manifestation of sacred gifts.  Jesus did not bestow on his disciples dominance and power to demand the obedience of others so much as he provided a fresh endowment of spirit substance from the makeup of divinity along with the consciousness and willpower to serve others while practicing self-government.  The leadership within the body would be acknowledged and recognized on the basis of such features as their humility, industry, meekness, and unselfishness.  One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile data shared) posted the following:


Did the Early Church operate under valid central authority?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.  Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.  And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.  And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.  But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.  For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;  To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;  To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:  But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.  For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body:  so also is Christ.  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  (1st Corinthians 12:  3-13, King James Version, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Flesh As Divine Vessels? (01/14/2018); Meanings for “Apostolic Church” (05/08/2017); A True Apostle? (09/20/2015); How Many Apostles? (04/30/2014); The Ruler Of the Earth? (05/01/2014); Succession (02/05/2014); On Youth Doing Enough (02/06/2014)


“Anonymous”, the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) was present as the spokesperson for Jesus Christ in the early church.  Responses that rely on secular knowledge will present the church as an ordinary institution, and a formally structured social organization.  Reponses that rely on sacred knowledge shared among Christian believers will describe the church as a body, or a fellowship having many distinct members with Jesus Christ as its head.  In that view, the church is most correctly portrayed as active, alive, diverse, developing, organic, and personal.

When the continued existence of the church became threatened by persecution, the believers that came to number in thousands were scattered; however, they also began to evangelize, go out, and spread the gospel in ways that otherwise would not have occurred.  It was then that James, the brother of Jesus, and others who remained in Jerusalem began to be recognized as a legitimate body to give counsel on issues of doctrine and practice, to address the challenges of embracing both Gentiles and Jews, and to resolve recurring conflicts.

While the Book of Acts reports that Peter preached a sermon on the day of Pentecost after the Holy Spirit had fallen upon the 120 men and women in the upper Room, who had fasted and prayed together awaiting the promise, Peter was not acknowledged at that time as the “successor” to Jesus, or as the chief spokesperson.  The early work among these believers included nominating candidates to fill both the office of apostle, and of bishop (elder) that had been vacated by Judas Iscariot.

A device used among the Hebrews from ancient times was employed to select the new apostle from the two proposed candidates.  The casting of lots was used with the understanding that the will of GOD would be indicated by its outcome.  This technique was akin to that used for judgment by the High Priest in the tabernacle and in the temple that involved his consecrated garments and full regalia, the breastplate, ephod, urim and thummim (also called, Lights and Perfections).  At Pentecost, the early church received multiple gifts to nourish and expand the community of faith that would establish the will of GOD in a similar way:  the word of wisdom, the word of knowledge, faith, prophecy, the working of miracles, and discerning of spirits (there were no gifts of reading minds, or predicting the future).  Consider the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  Numbers 27:  20-23, King James Version (KJV):  20 And thou shalt put some of thine honour upon him, that all the congregation of the children of Israel may be obedient.  21 And he shall stand before Eleazar the priest, who shall ask counsel for him after the judgment of Urim before the LORD:  at his word shall they go out, and at his word they shall come in, both he, and all the children of Israel with him, even all the congregation.  22 And Moses did as the LORD commanded him:  and he took Joshua, and set him before Eleazar the priest, and before all the congregation:  23 And he laid his hands upon him, and gave him a charge, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses.

(2.)  Acts 1:  13-16, KJV:  13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.  14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.  15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)  16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

(3.)  Acts 1:  22-26, KJV:  22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.  23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.  24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,  25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.  26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Acts 15:  12-20, KJV:  12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.  13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:  14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.  15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,  16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:  17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.  18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.  19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:  20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC

Apostolic succession is the topic today, along with more on the relationships among death, law and sin.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “badwolf” (Level 1 with 65 points, a member since September 21, 2013) posted the following first asked at Yahoo Answers UK & Ireland:

How can the pope claim to be Gods representative on earth ,if God hasnt told them that in person?

god might not even like what hes doing..if you read the bible jesus would be spinning in his grave at this claim

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simple ..i just cant help myself sometimes

THE BATTLE AXE:  Sin Causes Death? (02/04/2014)—(5.)  Both the living and the dead come under the condemnation generated by sin.  Only by salvation wrought through Jesus Christ are they released by processes of divine judgment.  The existence of all created beings and living creatures may be terminated through peculiar operations established by GOD as judgment.  Given that all created beings and living creatures contain spirit matter that is the same substance appearing as full divinity, consecrated person, and GODhead, death only may be described as a condition, a material process, and a “state of being” for mortals and for others endowed with life from GOD who are not immortal as GOD.  While the divine aspect within us is everlasting and “indestructible,” and death may still be spoken of as a supernatural force.  However, death is not a divine person, and should not be thought of as an entity having awareness (some say, sentience) and self-will like every human being.  By their transgression, Adam embraced a continual erosion of the divine content that had been imparted to humanity. In addition to the loss of protective outer coverings for beauty and majesty, and changes in the living environment for the pair, various aspects of divinity had to be removed immediately that enabled fulfillment of commandments and sacred law, resistance to allurements and separation from GOD as well as a complete inner immune system.  As a result, mortals all undergo continuous carnal changes that result in debility and death, yet, are not instantaneous outcomes of sinful attitudes, behavior and conduct, and that repeatedly appear without further direct action by GOD (e.g., aging, disease, injury, reproduction, sickness, loss of stamina, and reduced vigor).  Also, by the influence and presence of sin, there has been a continual loss of the spirit matter once deposited within mankind.  Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers receive a fresh endowment of divinity; and are supplied with inseparable aspects for life that include faith, forgiveness, gratitude, holiness, humility, joy, longsuffering, love, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Seeing with new eyes, sin is not so much a cause of death as a necessary force that directs men to seek life, long for relationships that build and maintain trust, and to lay hold upon the salvation GOD in Christ.  See Ecclesiastes 12:  1-7, Ezekiel 18:  30-32 and Ezekiel 33:  11-19, King James Version.

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.  Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;  He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.  This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.  Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.  For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,  Until I make thy foes thy footstool.  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.  (Acts 2:  29-36, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Hierarchy (11/14/2013); The Benefit of Law? (11/15/2013); GOD Grants License? (06/21/2013); Origin of Baptism? (06/22/2013); Money-changers in The Temple? (06/23/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013); Translation, Please… (01/11/2013); The Priesthood of Kings (10/17/2012)

“badwolf”, I can share only a few of the principles intended for those who are saved and set apart through service to Jesus Christ, here.  At the risk of challenging everyone more than they can handle, even so, you and your readers may consider the following:

(1.)  Apostolic succession comes into view as the process used by Matthew, Peter, James and the others to replace Judas, and maintain the full complement of 12 “official” witnesses of the Lord’s resurrection.  Candidates are first identified, and one is selected for consecration by sacred events occurring among the body of believers that are performed by the Holy Spirit.  This may include a “casting of lots” where divine will is revealed by the appearance of specific peculiar outcomes that would be improbable and unlike to result by chance.  (See Acts 1 and 2, KJV.)

(2.)  Succession is understood as another form of birthright or legacy (some would say, inheritance).  Intimate and personal relationship for created beings and living creatures who are finite and temporal are continued with eternal and omnipotent GOD through sacred devices and operations.  Included are anointing, baptism, birth, covenant, death, divine law, dynasty, judgment, nation, praise, prayer, promise, prophecy, rebirth, and sexual reproduction.

There is far more to be said, properly shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (3.)  The origins of succession were tied to the natural appearance of authority within the head of family, and is to be seen with the Patriarchs that followed Seth as the one appointed to the priesthood granted by GOD to Adam.  The priesthood was confirmed in Able through fire from heaven that consumed his sacrifice, rather than that of Cain.  The judges who appeared as deliverers were not chosen and established using succession.  As with the anointing of David by Samuel, and the dispensation for Solomon, the anointing in apostolic succession is an appointment as elder, king, priest, prophet, and judge. (That’s why the 24 elders have crowns.))  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:  Fear God, and keep his commandments:  for this is the whole duty of man.  For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.  (Ecclesiastes 12:  13-14, KJV)

Washington, DC