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Today, reply is on the falling of manna, and Jesus Christ understood as “the Word” and “the Living Torah.”  Where the name “the Word” speaks to the existence of Christ within GODhead before the foundations of heaven and earth “the Living Torah” speaks to his full appearing through Incarnation (i.e., birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension).  Divine life essence deposited within the body of Torah is to be discerned and visible as the blood of the new testament in Jesus Christ.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Mst” (Level 3 with 1,433 points, a member since July 19, 2009) posted the following:

 

I rarely do it, I read some part of New Testament. Particularly about Jesus words on Jews. Wasn’t Jesus wrong?

He supposed what are false. He said references from Torah which are not in Torah. For example, Torah NEVER says Moses prepared maan (that heavenly bread) for Jews, G-d did it. Torah Never says they should believe in Jesus OR should not kill the one who separate them from G-d of Israel. He says it is my father, not Your G-d, you can’t believe in Him solely.

OR when He says you are not doing Torah laws, if so, why did he reject that Jews are chosen people? Jesus didn’t believe in Torah. I think he intentionally or unintentionally didn’t know Torah……..

Thanks!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  12 Not through the dahm of se’irim (goats) and of agalim (bulls) but through his own dahm [Isa 52:15] he entered the Kodesh HaKodashim once and for all, having secured for us the Geulah Olamim.  13 For if the dahm of se’irim (goats) and parim (young bulls) and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have become tum’a (uncleanness), if this dahm sets apart for kedushah for the tohorah (purification) of the basar,  14 By how much more will the dahm of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach who through the eternal Ruach Hakodesh offered himself without MUM (defect, VAYIKRA 22:20) to G-d, by how much more will his DAHM (Isa 52:15) purify our matzpun (conscience) from ma’asim metim (dead works) in order to serve the Elohim Chayyim.  15 And for this reason Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach is the Metavekh of a Brit Chadasha in order that those who are HaKeru’im (the Called ones) may receive the nachalat olam (eternal inheritance) of the Havtachah (Promise), because a mavet, a kapparat hapeysha’im has taken place that gives them pedut (ransom for redemption, Geulah) from peysha’im (transgressions, Isa 53:5) that were committed under HaBrit HaRishonah.  16 For where there is a brit or a tzavva’a (will), it is aizen (well founded, incontrovertible) that the histalkus (passing) of the one who made it must be established.  17 For a Brit, a tzavv’a (covenant, will) is valid only when Bnei Adam have died, for it is never validly executed as long as the ba’al tzavva’a (testator, person who makes the will) lives.  18 Hence the Brit HaRishonah was not cut without DAHM. [Ex 24:8]  19 For when every mitzvah had been spoken by Moshe Rabbeinu to all the Am Brit according to the Torah, he took the dahm of se’irim and of agalim with mayim and scarlet wool and hyssop and sprinkled both the sefer itself and all the people,  20 Saying, “HINEI DAHM HABRIT (“This is the blood of the Covenant”—Ex 24:8) which Hashem commanded you.  21 And in the same way he sprinkled both the Mishkan and also all the k’lei haSherut (vessels of service in the Mishkan) with dahm.  22 Indeed, according to the Torah, almost everything is metohar (purified) by dahm, and without a kapporah by means of shefach dahm (the shedding of blood) there is no selicha (forgiveness).  23 Therefore, it was necessary for the tavnit (pattern, copy, SHEMOT 25:40) of the things in Shomayim be metohar (purified) with these, but the things of Shomayim themselves with better zevakhim than these.  24 For Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach did not enter into a Kodesh HaKodashim made by human hands, a mere TAVNIT (pattern, copy Ex 25:40) of the true Kodesh HaKodashim, but Moshiach entered into Shomayim itself, now to appear before the face of Hashem for us.  (Hebrews 9:  12-24, Orthodox Jewish Bible, OJB; all citations are from the Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB) Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Artists for Israel International.)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Word of GOD (09/05/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); Divinity Appears Using Form (07/26/2017); A Threat Against Judaism(07/17/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); The Cross and Judaism? (05/27/2016); Jesus Known As Word (01/17/2016) 

 

“Mst”, this may appear as new to you, however, here is what I now am willing to share with the Achim B’Moshiach: 

Even within “the law and the prophets” there are multiple divine condemnations of the Jews as a covenant people along with promises and prophecies regarding a new covenant, and their salvation through a remnant.  The focus of New Testament Scripture is neither the condemnation of all mankind through Adam, nor the condemnation of the Jews through the High Priests, the Sanhedrin, and the crowds who cursed themselves when crucifying Jesus.  Grounded in secular knowledge, many misread the holy writings, for the Scriptures are intended to impart sacred knowledge and spirit content from the makeup of GOD to those who themselves contain inseparable aspects of spirit substance from the makeup of GOD.  Included should be faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin. 

More correctly understood, the holy writings should be taken as all proclaiming a single revelation to make divinity knowable, known, and accessible in establishing and maintaining multiple personal relationships (e.g., adoption, apostles, covenant partners, prophets, servants, spokespersons) with created beings and living creatures.  Divinity and the active presence who is GOD is to be “discovered” and realized as more than an abstraction, a set of natural and mechanical operations, or a product of finite human tools such as imagination, intellect, logic, and carnal reason. 

The righteousness of GOD appears through the many aspects of judgment and the administration of divine law that include atonement, correction, forbearance, forgiveness, impartiality, mercy, reconciliation, sacrifice, and the second death.  The “inadequacy” of the law provided through covenants with the 7 tribes of Canaan and those from Egypt who traveled with Moses was not in its moral, social or spiritual content and what it addressed.  Rather, the law that could expose and identify sin was not able of itself to eliminate sin.  Thus, consider again the following from the holy writings:

(1.)  Jeremiah 31:  31-36, Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB):  31 (30) Hinei, the days come, saith Hashem, that I will cut a Brit Chadasha with Bais Yisroel, and with Bais Yehudah;  32 (31) Not according to the Brit that I cut with their Avot in the day that I took hold of their yad to take them out of Eretz Mitzrayim; which My Brit they broke, although I was Ba’al (Husband) to them, saith Hashem;  33 (32) But this shall be the Brit that I will cut with Bais Yisroel [T.N. OJBC is Jewish]; After those days, saith Hashem, I will set My Torah in them inwardly, and I will write ketuvim on their hearts; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My People.  34 (33) And they shall teach no more every ish his re’a (neighbor), and every ish his brother, saying, Know Hashem; for they shall all have da’as of Me, from the katon of them unto the gadol of them, saith Hashem; for I will forgive their avon, and I will remember their chattat no more.  35 (34) Thus saith Hashem, which giveth the shemesh for an ohr by day, and the chukkot yarei’ach and chukkot kokhavim for an ohr by night, which stirreth up the sea when the waves thereof roar; Hashem Tzva’os is Shmo:  36 (35) If those chukkim depart from before Me, saith Hashem, then the Zera Yisroel also shall cease from being a Goy (Nation) before Me forever.

(2.)  Kehillah in Rome 8:  1-9, OJB:  1 Therefore, now there is no gezar din (verdict) of ashem (guilty), no harsha’ah (condemnation as guilty) for those in Moshiach Yehoshua (cf. Ro 5:18).  2 For the Torah of the Ruach HaKodesh that gives Chayyim in Moshiach Yehoshua [YIRMEYAH 31:31-34; YECHEZKEL 36:26-27] has set you free from the Chok of Chet and Mavet.  3 For what the Torah was unable to do in that it was weak through the basar (fallen human nature under Chet Kadmon and without hitkhadshut renewal and regeneration by the Ruach Hakodesh), G-d sent his own Ben HaElohim [Moshiach] in the very demut (likeness) of the basar of sinful humanity and as a chattat (sin offering, sin atoning sacrifice, 2C 5:21) and both pronounced and effected a sentence of death on HaChet baBasar (Sin in the Flesh, in the fallen old humanity)  4 In order that the maleh chukat haTorah (the full statute requirement of the Torah, see VAYIKRA 18:5) might be fulfilled in us whose halakhah is in the Derech [HaChayyim] (the Way of Life) according to the Ruach Hakodesh and not in accordance with the basar.  5 For those who exist in terms of the basar take the side of the basar, whereas those who exist in terms of the Ruach [Hakodesh] take the side of the Ruach Hakodesh.  6 For the way of thinking of the basar is mavet (death), whereas the way of thinking of the Ruach Hakodesh is Chayyim and Shalom.  7 Because the way of thinking of the basar is hostility, eyvah (enmity BERESHIS 3:15) toward G-d, for it does not submit itself to the Torah of G-d; for it cannot.  8 And those who are in the basar are not able to please Hashem.  9 However, you are not in the basar [i.e., unregenerate] but in the Ruach Hakodesh, assuming that the Ruach Hakodesh of Hashem does indeed dwell in you—if anyone does not have the Ruach HaMoshiach, that person does not belong to Moshiach.

(3.)  Yehudim in Moshiach 8:  7-13, OJB:  7 For if the Brit HaRishonah had been without fault, it would not have been necessary to speak about a Brit HaShniyah [YIRMEYAH 31:30-33 (31-34)].  8 For, when Hashem finds fault with them, he says, “HINEI YAMIM BA’IM, NE’UM HASHEM, VKHARATI ES BEIS YISRAEL V’ES BEIS YEHUDAH BRIT CHADASHA” (“Behold, days are coming, says Hashem, when I will establish with the Beis Yisroel and with the Beis Yehudah a Brit Chadasha”).  9 “Not like the Brit that I made with their forefathers on the day I took them by the hand to lead them out from the land of Egypt; because they broke my Brit, though I was a husband to them”)  10 “KI ZOT HABRIT ASHER EKHROT ES BEIS YISROEL ACHAREI HAYAMIM HAHEM, NE’UM HASHEM; NATATI ES TORATI BEKIRBAM V’AL LIBAM EKHTAVENNAH, V’HAYITI LAHEM L’ELOHIM V’HEMMAH YIH’YU LI LE’AM” (“Because this is the Brit which I will make with the Beis Yisroel after those days, says Hashem:  putting my Torah into the mind of them and upon the levavot of them I will write it and I will be to them G-d and they will be to Me a people”— see Jer 31:30-33; also Prov 30:4; 8:30;Yn 1:1; Rev 3:20).  11 “V’LO YELAMMEDU OD ISH ES RE’EHU V’ISH ES AKHIV LEMOR, DE’U ES HASHEM; KI KHULAM YEDE’U OTI LEMIKTANNAM V’AD GEDOLAM” (“No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying ‘Have da’as of Hashem,’ because they will all have da’as of Me, from the least of them to the greatest.”)  12 “KI ESLACH LA’AVONAM U’LECHATTATAM LO EZKAR OD” (“For I will forgive the wickedness of them and their sin I will remember no more.” Jer 31:30-33 [31-34]).  13 When Hashem uses the word “CHADASHA” he has thereby made the Brit HaRishonah yeshanah and a Brit thus made aging, is near to being yakhlof (vanished).

(4.)  Mattityahu 28:  17-20, OJB:  17 And when they saw him, they prostrated themselves before him, but some were doubtful.  18 And he came up and spoke to them, saying, All samchut (authority) has been given to me in Shomayim and on HaAretz.  19 Go, therefore, make talmidim for Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach of all the nations, giving them a tevilah in a mikveh mayim in Hashem, in the Name of HaAv, and HaBen, and HaRuach Hakodesh,  20 Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And hinei! I [Moshiach] am with you always, even unto the Ketz HaOlam Hazeh.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Tehillim 85:  10-12, OJB:  10 (11) Chesed and emes will meet together; tzedek and shalom will kiss each other.  11 (12) Emes shall titzmach (sprout forth [T.N. Tzemach—Branch, Sprout—is the code name for Moshiach and the coming Tzemach’s Namesake in Zecharyah 6:11-12 is Yehoshua, Yeshua—see Ezra 3:8; Zech 3:8; 6:11-12. Go to Jer 23:5 and look at all the references. These are among the most important Scriptures in the Bible because it is here that the saving Name of Moshiach Tzidkeinu is prophetically communicated for salvation; the word Tzemach means “Moshiach” and it is the code word par excellence for Moshiach in the post-Exilic references in the minor prophets; this veiled reference to Moshiach was necessary in the situation of the Return under Persian rule when talk of a coming king was a delicate matter.]) out of ha’aretz; and tzedek shall look down from Shomayim.  12 (13) Yes, Hashem shall give that which is tov; and Artzeinu (our land) shall yield her yevul (increase, produce).  [Citations are from the Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB) Copyright © 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2011 by Artists for Israel International.]  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on the provisions of GOD to nourish and sustain Moses and the generation forced to wander in the wilderness.  While animals from the flocks and herds carried out of Egypt were used when making offerings and sacrifices, in general, they were regarded as “seed” that would be planted in the new homeland, and could not be used for regular meals to feed the people.  Moses, the tribes of Jacob, and the mixed multitude (Gentiles) did not wander within a “desert”(an arid region covered by sand); yet, the area was barren, with sparse vegetation, uncultivated, and uninhabited.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “STEVAN” (Level 4 with 3,374 points, a member since October 17, 2007) posted the following:

 

What did Moses and his gang eat in the desert when they were wandering about in it?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Egypt was glad when they departed:  for the fear of them fell upon them.  He spread a cloud for a covering; and fire to give light in the night.  The people asked, and he brought quails, and satisfied them with the bread of heaven.  He opened the rock, and the waters gushed out; they ran in the dry places like a river.  For he remembered his holy promise, and Abraham his servant.  (Psalms 105:  38-42, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Generation That Wandered (06/14/2017); Acknowledging the Divine Presence (02/22/2017); Material Things in Heaven? (11/10/2016); The Loaves and Fishes (08/09/2016); Christ Brought A New Nature? (07/15/2015); My Soul Shall Be Satisfied (10/08/2014); Salvation Before Christ? (06/24/2014); All Sins Are Equal? (06/25/2014)

 

STEVAN”, the account of those fed in the desert foreshadows the Incarnation and coming of Jesus Christ.  Correctly understood, all those who would become the covenant people of GOD carried out of Egypt would eat food from the holy altar, and the “table of GOD” in heaven.  In addition to receiving a portion of the burnt offerings and other sacrifices using their own livestock, there was the annual Passover meal, the falling of manna (called the “bread of heaven” and “angel’s food”) each morning except the Sabbath as well as a miraculous provision of millions of quail.  This was in line with the tribes of Jacob being sanctified and exalted as special to GOD above all people on the earth.  Those who expressed lack of faith would be condemned to all wander and die in the wilderness; however, their children and heirs (left behind as orphans) would be granted the privilege to receive adoption by GOD, and enjoy the fulfillment of the divine promises.  Consider again the following from the Bible:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 14:  1-3, King James Version (KJV):  1 Ye are the children of the LORD your God:  ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.  2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.  3 Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

(2.)  Numbers 14:  1-4, KJV:  1 And all the congregation lifted up their voice, and cried; and the people wept that night.  2 And all the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron:  and the whole congregation said unto them, Would God that we had died in the land of Egypt! or would God we had died in this wilderness!  3 And wherefore hath the LORD brought us unto this land, to fall by the sword, that our wives and our children should be a prey? were it not better for us to return into Egypt?  4 And they said one to another, Let us make a captain, and let us return into Egypt.

(3.)  Numbers 11:  18-23, KJV:  18 And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt:  therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat.  19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days;  20 But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome unto you:  because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?  21 And Moses said, The people, among whom I am, are six hundred thousand footmen; and thou hast said, I will give them flesh, that they may eat a whole month.  22 Shall the flocks and the herds be slain for them, to suffice them? or shall all the fish of the sea be gathered together for them, to suffice them?  23 And the LORD said unto Moses, Is the LORD’s hand waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.

(4.)  Deuteronomy 1:  34-40, KJV:  34 And the LORD heard the voice of your words, and was wroth, and sware, saying,  35 Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers.  36 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD.  37 Also the LORD was angry with me for your sakes, saying, Thou also shalt not go in thither.  38 But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither:  encourage him:  for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.  39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.  40 But as for you, turn you, and take your journey into the wilderness by the way of the Red sea.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  John 6:  26-33, KJV:  26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.  27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you:  for him hath God the Father sealed.  28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?  29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.  30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?  31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.  32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.  33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Today, practices to acknowledge the divine presence in the camp of those who left Egypt with Moses are considered.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Singapore)” using the ID “Adam” (Level 4 with 4,977 points, a member since April 25, 2011) posted the following:

 

Exodus: laws of moses when u poop put a stick in the ground (did moses aim this at just one guy?)?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious:  and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious:  but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,  And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient:  whereunto also they were appointed.  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;  Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:  which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.  (1st Peter 2:  6-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divine Presence and Spirit (01/18/2017); The Old Self Crucified? (04/03/2016); Pork, A Stumblingblock? (03/06/2015); Deliverance A Benefit Of Salvation? (02/23/2015); Divine Law for Mankind? (07/29/2014); Divine Law Speaks of Spirit? (07/30/2014); Holy Ground (03/30/2014); The Temple Mount (03/31/2014)

 

“Adam”, those who received the Ten Commandment law had to learn to display uninterrupted acknowledgement of divine presence.  The men, women, and children who left Egypt with Moses were Gentiles and a “mixed multitude” as well as those from the 12 tribes of Jacob.  A single, sacred standard for all would be put forth to cleanse and sanctify them for a continuing relationship as covenant partners with the Most High.  While in Egypt, their daily lives maintained customs, rituals, and traditions that exalted secular knowledge (e.g., government, politics, science) and also embraced astrology, idolatry, sorcery, superstition, and the occult.  The size of their camp is estimated to have been as many as 3½ million, for men of fighting age alone were more than ½ million.  The people lived in tents, and the livestock were kept in close quarter.  The “promised land” was already occupied by seven tribes who were in a covenant with GOD, and were to be replaced because they repeatedly had violated their contract.  When GOD spoke declaring the terms (commandments) of his new covenant, the people were awestruck, and petitioned that GOD would use prophets and spokespersons to reveal divinity, rather than speak from heaven again.  With this in view, the active presence of GOD among the people was made visible by the pillar of cloud by day, fire by night; by the tabernacle; and by multiple aspects of divine order that included captains over thousands, hundreds, fifties, twenties and tens (we say, hierarchy, rank); the falling of manna for only six days; and the keeping of Sabbath.  Consider again the following from the Scriptures:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 23:  12-14, King James Version (KJV):  12 Thou shalt have a place also without the camp, whither thou shalt go forth abroad:  13 And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee:  14 For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy:  that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.

(2.)  Deuteronomy 14:  1-2, KJV:  1 Ye are the children of the LORD your God:  ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.  2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Deuteronomy 12:  1-7, KJV:  1 These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the LORD God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.  2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:  3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.  4 Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.  5 But unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come:  6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:  7 And there ye shall eat before the LORD your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the LORD thy God hath blessed thee.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, the miracle of Jesus feeding 5,000, mankind’s participation in divine judgment, the Lord’s Supper, and eternal life all come into view.  Multiplying the material gift of loaves and fish was not the most godly aspect of the feeding events.  The marvel and wonder were to be seen in the appearance of GOD through order, sacrifice, trust, and unselfishness.  The core and essence of salvation goes beyond humans changing their own attitudes and conduct, and even goes further than divine operations to eliminate sin.  As in the imparting of life to both Adam and Eve, there has to be a joining of flesh and spirit substance from the makeup of GOD.  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Digital” (Level 3 with 2,306 points, a member since March 12, 2014) posted the following:

 

In the parable of Jesus feeding the 5000 what do the loaves and fishes represent?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat:  this is my body, which is broken for you:  this do in remembrance of me.  After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood:  this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.  For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.  For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.  (1st Corinthians 11:  23-32, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Becoming A Christian Believer (08/08/2016); To Drink Holy Blood? (02/16/2015); Why Jesus Used Parables (11/03/2013); Denying Baptism to Others (11/04/2013); Eat His Body, Drink His Blood (03/21/2013); Foolish For Not Believing? (03/22/2013)

 

“Digital”, among mature Christian believers, the different accounts of Jesus feeding the multitude are reports of “sacred events” (we say, miracles) that pertain to the full revelation of divinity, rather than simply parables that provide doctrine through illustrations, and object lessons.  Sacred events must be apprehended through discernment (i.e., using ones own divine spirit content to recognize and respond to eternal purpose and spirit matter within actions, messages, oneself, other persons, prophecy, Scripture, etc.).

Many understand the feeding events to be covenant meals that signal agreement and commitment.  These miracles serve as emblems (like a policeman’s badge) granted to the Son of GOD indicating the lawful authority, sovereignty, and unity with the Father and the Holy Spirit whereby the Son appears as Creator, owner, and ruler over all that exists.  Divine order and sacred law are established as the people are arranged in groups of 50.  An overwhelming abundance and plenty are signaled through use of a fragment and portion.  Acceptance and trust are manifest, rather than anxiety, or fear there may not be enough to include me also.  Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, in addition to the things needed for sustaining “the flesh” (i.e., appetite, sensation, emotion/mental functions), the entire range of resources for spiritual life are pledged and supplied.  Included are cleansing, forbearance, forgiveness, healing, hope (i.e., specific expectations), joy, meekness, mercy that comes only by judgment, rebirth, resurrection, and sanctification.

The loaves and fish become devices to further make visible the “active presence” of GOD who is spirit, and the special truth that GOD must abide as Spirit within the living.  Consider again how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  John 6:  27-30, King James Version (KJV):  27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you:  for him hath God the Father sealed.  28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?  29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.  30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

(2.)  John 6:  47-53, KJV:  47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.  48 I am that bread of life.  49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.  50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.  51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven:  if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:  and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.  52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?  53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

(3.)  John 6:  54-58, KJV:  54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.  55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.  56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.  57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father:  so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.  58 This is that bread which came down from heaven:  not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead:  he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

New Disclaimer

 

A Scripture study is shared today showing that the recurring need of created beings and living creatures for spirit content from the makeup of divinity is as great as the need for bread, water, physical activity, and social acceptance.

SOME THOUGHTS ON

1 O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee:  my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;

2 To see thy power and thy glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.

3 Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee.

4 Thus will I bless thee while I live:  I will lift up my hands in thy name.

5 My soul shall be satisfied as with marrow and fatness; and my mouth shall praise thee with joyful lips:

6 When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.

7 Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice.

8 My soul followeth hard after thee:  thy right hand upholdeth me.

9 But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.

10 They shall fall by the sword:  they shall be a portion for foxes.

11 But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by him shall glory:  but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped.  (Psalms 63:  1-11, KJV)

Genesis 24:  14 (KJV)  14 And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also:  let the same be she that thou hast appointed for thy servant Isaac; and thereby shall I know that thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.

1st Chronicles 11:  16-18 (KJV)  16 And David was then in the hold, and the Philistines’ garrison was then at Bethlehem.  17 And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, that is at the gate!  18 And the three brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David:  but David would not drink of it, but poured it out to the LORD.

Psalms 80:  4-7 (KJV)  4 O LORD God of hosts, how long wilt thou be angry against the prayer of thy people?  5 Thou feedest them with the bread of tears; and givest them tears to drink in great measure.  6 Thou makest us a strife unto our neighbours:  and our enemies laugh among themselves.  7 Turn us again, O God of hosts, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.

Joel 2:  12-19 (KJV)  12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:  13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God:  for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.  14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?  15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:  16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts:  let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.  17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?  18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.  19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:

Psalms 109:  23-25 (KJV)  23 I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:  I am tossed up and down as the locust.  24 My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness.  25 I became also a reproach unto them:  when they looked upon me they shaked their heads.

Isaiah 58:  1-11 (KJV)  1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.  2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God:  they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.  3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.  4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness:  ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.  5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?  6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?  7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?  8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily:  and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.  9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;  10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:  11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones:  and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

Matthew 6:  16-18 (KJV)  16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.  17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;  18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret:  and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.

Ecclesiastes 5:  18-19 (KJV)  18 Behold that which I have seen:  it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him:  for it is his portion.  19 Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.

John 4:  7-15 (KJV)  7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water:  Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.  8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)  9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.  10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.  11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?  12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?  13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:  14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.  15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.

John 6:  27-35 (KJV)  27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you:  for him hath God the Father sealed.  28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?  29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.  30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?  31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.  32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.  33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.  34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.  35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life:  he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Deuteronomy 8:  3 (KJV)  3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  For example, a believers appetite and desire to be in the active presence of divinity are to be amplified and sated through the word of GOD.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC