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ADAM AND EVE CAST OUT OF EDEN

 

Today, focus is on mankind’s offense against GOD as having been more than an accident, or an “innocent” mistake.  The error by Adam and his mate must be viewed from a comprehensive divine perspective, for it went beyond expressing covetousness, greed, presumption, and lust for “forbidden fruit.”  The disobedience and rejection of divine law committed by the pair was also a confounding of authority and accountability for governing the earth, a denial of divine love, the interruption of operations to fulfill eternal purposes, and the disruption of spiritual order throughout the universe.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (India)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

So god punished mankind because adam and eve ate his apples?

sounds a little harsh dont you think?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.  (1st Timothy 2:  13-15, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Atonement, Repentance and More (06/06/2017); Law and Divine Process (05/28/2017); Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); Divine Law Expresses Love (05/10/2017); Held Accountable by GOD? (03/31/2017); On Accepting Divine Judgment (02/26/2017); Our Beginnings Were Perfect? (12/14/2015)

 

“Anonymous”, you need to see the things about punishment and sin from a “divine point of view.”  Mankind must now respond to conditions established through divine law as sanctions and outcomes for obedience/disobedience.  When speaking of “sin”, men often rely upon formal language that describes transgressions and violations within a broad system of fixed rules that allow “worth” to be assigned and determined, and permits conflicts and disputes to be resolved on the basis of familiar principles, formal standards, and shared values.  However, the operations of sin must be understood within the frameworks for sacred not secular knowledge.  Sin is no common object, does not contain spirit substance from GOD, and does not exist as a creation from divinity.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and all divine order.  Sin is impersonal, irrational, self-destructive, and unfeeling.  Even so, sin has “direction”, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  Divinity responds to sin as more than simply a negative reaction, or a response to abstract and mechanical elements that appear as normal aspects to living.  Sin is malicious; disrupts regular communion, exchange, and interaction (we say, relationships) between the Creator and the created; and corrupts and defiles the oneness without sameness expressed as eternal purpose.  Thus, sin is also described as betrayal, covenant-breaking, failing to keep ones word, ingratitude, and treachery.  Consider the following:

(1.)  Ephesians 3:  14-19, King James Version (KJV):  14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,  15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,  16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;  17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,  18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;  19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 15:  20-23, KJV:  20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.  21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.  22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.  23 But every man in his own order:  Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 5:  17-21, KJV:  17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)  18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, Scriptures are shared on receiving the Holy Spirit.  Recognizing and responding to the active presence and operations of the Holy Spirit are to be accomplished through spiritual discernment and faith, rather than by intellect, logic, and sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, touching).  While most Christian congregations teach regarding the fall (i.e., sudden appearance) of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost upon the apostles and disciples who had prepared themselves by obeying the command to tarry, and continued fasting and praying together in the upper room in Jerusalem, many do not also proclaim the similar spiritual events occurring in the home of Cornelius, a retired Roman soldier.  Where a confession, creeds, or a statement of belief is used to instruct new members in place of the Scriptures, many important points on receiving the Holy Spirit and the right hand of fellowship are often overlooked.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

How to receive Holy Ghost?

Do you believe that lay on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost?

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.( The Articles of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)

And he called them by name, saying: Ye shall call on the Father in my name, in mighty prayer; and after ye have done this ye shall have power that to him upon whom ye shall lay your hands, ye shall give the Holy Ghost; and in my name shall ye give it, for thus do mine apostles.( The book of Mormon/ The Book of Moroni2:2)
But the Bible does not say that
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise (Ephesians1:13)

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? (Luke11:13)

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  (John 1:  11-14, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Diversity and Prophetic Gifts (11/22/2016); Sacred Events and Subtlety? (11/21/2016); Works of the Spirit? (11/04/2016); GOD Within Christian Believers (07/31/2016); A True Apostle? (09/20/2015); Endowed With Spirit? (05/08/2015); Cornelius, and Prayer By Sinners? (03/09/2015)

 

“Anonymous”, many continue to pursue quarrels about the form of baptism (e.g., fire, immersion, running water, sprinkling, standing water, with/without physical contact), the order for receiving the Spirit (before or after water baptism), and ways to invoke or make the Holy Spirit appear.  The presence of the apostles in the early church was to bear witness to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and to authenticate the genuine appearance of the Holy Spirit.  For your full “sacred knowledge” concerning the order of baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit (also called the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth), also be aware of the following from the holy writings:

(1.)  2nd Peter 1:  16-21, King James Version (KJV):  16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.  17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.  18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.  19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:  20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:  but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

(2.)  Ezekiel 36:  25-27, KJV:  25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean:  from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.  26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you:  and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.  27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

(3.)  Acts 10:  40-48, KJV:  40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;  41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.  42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.  43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.  44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.  45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.  46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,  47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?  48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

(4.)  Acts 19:  1-7, KJV:  1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus:  and finding certain disciples,  2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.  3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.  4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.  5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.  6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.  7 And all the men were about twelve.

(5.)  Acts 8:  14-24, KJV:  14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:  15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:  16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them:  only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)  17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.  18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,  19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.  20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.  21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter:  for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.  22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.  23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.  24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (6.)  Acts 4:  29-33, KJV:  29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings:  and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,  30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.  31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.  32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul:  neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.  33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus:  and great grace was upon them all.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, iniquity, genuine repentance, reconciliation, and righteousness are topics.  The imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD comes into view as an unstoppable control mechanism that instills authority, freedom, integrity, and self-government within Christian believers.  For those granted new life in Jesus Christ, the force of truth and zeal compel, and prompt believers, both to take godly action and to suppress the operations of sin.  Aspects of the flesh and “what we do” (e.g., attitudes, behavior, conduct) may appear to remain the same, yet, are transformed in divine judgment in terms of such elements as consequence, meaning, purpose, value, and weight.  Thus, as joint heirs and those having new relationship with the Father and the Spirit through the Son, believers speak of propitiation, reconciliation, repentance, and newness of life.  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers (Malaysia)” using the ID “Amelie” (Level 1 with 6 points, a member since July 07, 2015) posted the following:

 

If Christians were actually right, what would stop me from indulging my whims to torture innocent people to death, and then repenting?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us:  we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.  (2nd Corinthians 5:  17-21, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Life Of GOD? (06/01/2016); A Guarantee of Judgment? (04/15/2016); Belief, Content And Works? (02/12/2016); Correct Awe and Respect (02/04/2016); A Personal Relationship? (04/03/2014); GOD Everywhere? (04/04/2014); Genuine Repentance? (03/24/2014); When Is A Law The LAW? (03/25/2014)

 

“Amelie”, to “stop us,” the seed of GOD that makes us his children must grow and have power within the sinner.  Sin—that we ignorantly embrace as a necessary aspect of our being normal, natural, and “like everybody else”—is contrary, disruptive, and cannot be correctly recognized and resisted without the godliness intended as our true nature.  In becoming mature Christian believers, sinners must experience multiple levels of growth and stages of change that are initiated and completed through operations carried out by divinity.  In the same way the Creation of heaven and earth established the angels, animals, and mankind as created beings and living creatures, the ministry of Jesus Christ upon the earth having the cooperation and support of the Father and the Holy Spirit makes it possible for sinners to become transformed, first to exist as a new creation during their life time.  Then, following Advent (i.e., the harvest of those that belong to Christ and are “ripe”; the Rapture; the Second Coming) and the completion of Judgment, believers will exist as immortal, incorruptible companions to GOD for eternity.  Sinners are said to be “born again” only when they begin to acquire and apply sacred knowledge and spirit content that are imparted from the character, makeup, and substance of the Creator (we say, breath, life essence, spirit, word).  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, love, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Sin is no material thing that may be broken, eliminated and destroyed without specific actions possible only for GOD (e.g., Incarnation, resurrection, sanctification).  Sin has not been put forth or created by divinity; has direction, effect, and presence; and may dominate awareness and self-will within the living.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the entire Creation.  Sin may well be the residue from  chaos and flux (i.e., random order and confused, moving streams made of nothing that now exists) that were in place before divine law manifest and revealed authority, coherence, duration, and order as emanated from the sovereign will of GODhead.  The difference between the mature believer and the sinner is spoken of as discipline, spiritual maturity, love expressed as restraint and self denial, respect, reverence, righteousness, and trust.  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, a reply is shared on the importance of law, judgment, and justice among Christian beliefs.  While atonement, redemption and salvation have overcoming and resisting sin as a major focus, the revelation of GOD through Jesus Christ centers more upon mankind becoming a new creation through the Savior’s blood.  Many now are in an ongoing process of permanent change that will be completed at the Advent (we say, the Rapture, the Second Coming) of Jesus.  Mortality is to no longer exist, and the committed believers will live as immortal, incorruptible companions of divinity.  On the one hand, every aspect of ministry and service to GOD must be understood as being in accordance with divine law.  Included are accountability within congregations, discipline within families, healing, inheritance, miracles, fulfillment of divine promises and prophecy as well as praise, proclamation of the Gospel, and preaching.  On the other hand, instead of being a formal codex or system of questionable demands, law is to be understood as “the force of truth” and the imperative that emerges by operations of the divine Spirit.  Thus, law is to be acknowledged as content from the character, makeup and substance of divinity.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  In no way does grace, mercy, and divine prerogative corrupt or oppose the delivery of divine justice.  A writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia) using the ID “John” (Level 1 with 1 point, a member since January 08, 2015 ) posted the following:

 

Is vengeance and punishment an important part of christianity?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.   For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (Romans 8:  1-10, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Presumption Is Never Helping (05/23/2016); Justice Not Revenge? (01/15/2015); A Culture of Judgment? (03/20/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014); Lawful Revenge? (01/02/2014); As GOD Loves Us? (01/03/2014)

 

“John”, throughout the holy writings, the word “vengeance” is used to speak of “justice”.  Mature Christian believers all acknowledge the sovereign authority of GOD—who is the Creator and owner of all that exists—to include administering judgment (we say, assigning value, determining quality, relegating purpose, and maintaining the extent of duration for the living as brief, finite, or eternal).  While divine law conveys the wrath of GOD against sin, it does so in agreement with divine love, promise, righteousness, truth, and wisdom.  Correction (i.e., demonstrations, encouragement, and added instruction to change attitudes,  behavior, and knowledge) and punishment (i.e., penalties and reprimand that may include physical beatings and death) come into view where judgment is also (1) the resolution of conflicts and the settlement of disputes by applying divine law; (2) enforcement of the sanctions in the law (i.e., allowances, boundaries, limits, methods, and restrictions established); and (3) the continuance or restoration of balance, fairness, impartiality, and stability (that may include appeals and further adjudication).  The fullness of law to maintain and provide justice includes admonitions, cautions, and warnings; applying outcomes (e.g., process, sentences, verdicts) from earlier tribunals; commandments; confiscation; licensing; monetary assessments, fines and liens; ordinances and statutes; precepts and principles; registration of boundaries and property lines; removal and separation of violators from the community/prey/victims (e.g., banishment, death, exile, incarceration); as well as returning stolen goods and property.  Such elements as ceremonies, rituals, and traditions that seem to be arbitrary and pertain more to chance often are condemned as irrelevant and nonessential.  However, the character, nature, and substance of the law always is to be received as exalted, for sacred law is also the expressed will of GOD, and is to be a pure revelation of divinity.  Consider how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Isaiah 5:  20-25, King James Version (KJV):  20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!  21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!  22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:  23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!  24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust:  because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.  25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them:  and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

(2.)  Romans 7:  12-15, KJV:  12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.  13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.  14 For we know that the law is spiritual:  but I am carnal, sold under sin.  15 For that which I do I allow not:  for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

(3.)  Romans 7:  21-25, KJV:  21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.  22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:  23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.  24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?  25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

(4.)  Luke 9:  51-56, KJV:  51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,  52 And sent messengers before his face:  and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.  53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.  54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?  55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.  56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

(5.)  John 3:  16-21, KJV:  16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  18 He that believeth on him is not condemned:  but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (6.)  Romans 12:  18-20, KJV:  18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.  19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath:  for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.  20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:  for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is made to a question on the divine use of flesh and blood, mortality, and the death of Jesus upon the cross.  For those of us who accept that divine law expresses the heart, mind and will of GOD, existence, life, and the multiple eternal purposes of divinity (e.g., blessing, praise, replenishing the earth) establish and serve as sacred boundaries, limits, and restrictions upon the chaos and conditions that otherwise contend against divine order having place within the universe.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the Creation that rests upon the platform of divine law; and, sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  To fully accomplish, affirm, and proclaim the active presence of GOD as exalted even above sin, various divine methods, operations, and tools are being used.  Sin can not be eliminated or removed using the devices to destroy an ordinary material object.  Instead, sacred works must appear that counteract sin and erase its effects.  Included are atonement, forgiveness, rebirth, sacrifice, sanctification, and suffering.  A fighter at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why was it necessary for god to send his son on a suicide mission?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,  To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.  And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.  Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.  (Galatians 4:  4-7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Focus Upon Spirit (09/12/2016); Eternal Mysteries and Revelation (08/31/2016); Becoming A Christian Believer (08/08/2016); The Life Of GOD? (06/01/2016); Sacred Knowledge and Christ (05/16/2016); The Cross and Mankind (05/13/2016); In The Image of Man (05/04/2016)

 

“Anonymous”, mature Christian believers recognize your question as one that has been asked by angels in heaven as well as by mankind upon the earth.  Divinity can not be legitimately challenged or condemned by finite beings for using carnal form (we say, Incarnation), mortality, divine prerogative, and sovereign authority.  The continuing existence of created beings and living creatures has required many unseen operations and sacred works.  The things that have been displayed as divine revelation to make divinity knowable, known, and visible to the living, therefore, include elements that also are carnal, material, and social.  The mortality of Jesus Christ understood by his birth, ministry, death, and resurrection are no less necessary for complete and correct sacred knowledge than his immortality and purity witnessed through his ascension, his provision of atonement and spiritual gifts through the Holy Spirit, his installment as judge and king through a testament of blood, his service as High Priest within the temple in heaven, his coming to harvest from the earth those who belong to him that are “ripe” (we say, the Advent, the Rapture, the Second Coming), and the establishment of the city made in heaven (the New Jerusalem) upon the earth.  Using ideas generated by the flesh (e.g., appetite, form, sensation, emotions, mental functions) the notion of “suicide” may seem acceptable.  However, sinners must go to “higher ground” to have the same broad and inclusive point of view that allows genuine Christian belief.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, thoughts are shared on what it would mean to be controlled by divine Spirit.  Christian believers are not made to behave as automatons and machines by the presence and operations of the Holy Spirit.  The living continue to have authority, coherence, integrity, and power as self-will; and the ongoing transformation of their character and nature proceeds according to their own responses to GOD such as gratitude, humility, meekness, obedience, respect, and trust.  In no way are believers dehumanized, deprived, or dispossessed.  Outside the sovereign frameworks provided by divine spirit, the platforms for existence and order are anarchy, chaos, evil, ruin, and upheaval as depicted using surrealism.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (I could care less which one) posted the following:

 

If a spirit was controlling him, he wouldn’t be choosing to be homosexual.?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:  Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.  For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.  Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin:  but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.  For sin shall not have dominion over you:  for ye are not under the law, but under grace.  What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?  But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.  Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.  (Romans 6:  8-18, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Spirit Process not Feelings? (09/21/2016); The Focus Upon Spirit (09/12/2016); Use Spirit From GOD? (08/15/2016);  GOD Within Christian Believers (07/31/2016); The Flesh An Obstacle? (07/29/2016); An Habitation of GOD (07/24/2016); Flesh Against the Spirit? (06/19/2016)

 

“Anonymous”, how and what divine spirit may choose is not predictable using values centered in emotion, flesh, logic, reason, physical strength, sentiment, and sensation.  Because the character, nature, operations, and substance of divinity are “spirit” (we also say, life essence, breath, sacred utterance, Word), it is no simple thing for created beings and living creatures—who exist as independent (i.e., separate), and may be carnal, material, mortal (subject to death) and of limited duration (like both angels and mankind)—to correctly be in agreement and harmony with an immortal, incorruptible, invisible Creator.  In view of the fact that spirit matter is diffuse, immeasurable and unbounded, it is more fruitful and godly for mature Christian believers to focus upon abiding as a new creation through Jesus Christ, acquiring new life, rebirth, and repentance than to dwell upon concerns such as defilement through fornication and sexual joining, same-sex marriage, sexual orientation, and sexual preferences.  Sin, the influence that opposes the continued existence of divine law, also challenges the exchanges and interactions among the inseparable aspects within the makeup of GOD that pertain to eternal life.  Included are faith, holiness, longsuffering, love, purity, righteousness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  For finite beings, where there is no law, preset conditions, focus, form, measurable dimension, and fixed standards, chaos and nonexistence are promoted that may appear disguised as benefit and freedom.  Where awareness and self-will are dominated by sin, the living do not truly demonstrate choice.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

 

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The present separation of Creator and Creation is in view, today.  While even death can not completely destroy the acceptance and divine love imparted to Creation, that there be no defilement of the Holy continues to require distance, perspective, restraint, and transformation.  Even more than condemnation, punishment, or sacrifice for sin, divine judgment centers upon correction, reconciliation, renewal, and the revelation of divine righteousness.  With the Creator, wrath against sin is not an emotion or feeling that comes and goes so much as it is a defining attribute like immortality and immutability that elevate Deity above all.  Thus, it is written:  Psalms 7:  10-13, King James Version (KJV):  10 My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart.  11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.  12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.  13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Singapore)” using the ID “Sridhar” (Level 2 with 509 points, a member since July 24, 2006) posted the following:

 

Christians, would one of you clear my doubt below?

Someone just replied to me saying –
‘God does not have a blanket of love covering everything. He covers those who repent.’
With the quotation –
“These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”
??Proverbs? ?6:16-19? ?KJV??

Dislike or Disapproval of such acts is understandable. But must one – least of all GOD – HATE the violators?

Hey, we humans have many failings: vanity, lying, ignorance, greed and jealousy to name a few. Must you hate another instead of pitying and correcting him/her? Anybody for forgiving them their trespasses?

I thought Christ was an advocate of forgiveness. Or am I mistaken here?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?  When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.  Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.  Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?  Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.  Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit:  for why will ye die, O house of Israel?  For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD:  wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.  (Ezekiel 18:  25-32, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Use Spirit From GOD? (08/15/2016); No Excuses For Judgment (07/26/2016); Divine Focus and Process (07/19/2016); Sin Must Be Personal (04/29/2016); The Strangeness of Divinity? (03/29/2016); GOD Lives Inside Us? (07/11/2014); Can the Word of GOD Be Altered? (07/12/2014)

 

“Sridhar”, emotions, feelings, and sentiment aside (such as anger, disgust, hate, loathing) divinity must be active against the operations of corruption (we say, decay, disintegration, rot), diffusion, evil (we say, arbitrary change, catastrophe, chaos, flux, upheaval), negation, and sin.  Many mature Christian believers agree that the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead) has been revealed as having active presence, coherence, directedness, integrity, person, and unity.  There is divine opposition to sin as an influence that may dominate awareness and self-will within created beings and living creatures.  Sin is no physical thing that exists or tangible object one may put in their pocket; yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence.  The fruit and product of sin is not only death, it is absolute nonexistence.  While sin is no substance or created thing put forth by GOD, the operations of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law (i.e., “the expressed will of GOD”), the Law Giver, our universe dependent upon order generated by sacred law, and the existence of all things.  To the living, sin appears to be natural, normal, and unavoidable.  Sin does not appear contrary, foreign, harmful, and strange.  Thus, provisions from GOD to expose the actual nature of sin include divine covenant, judgment, promise, repentance, the imparted Spirit (we say, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth), and Jesus Christ as an incarnation of sin upon the cross.  Consider how some of this is stated using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Proverbs 28:  9, King James Version (KJV):  9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

(2.)  Ezekiel 18:  20-23, KJV:  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him:  in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD:  and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

(3.)  Romans 7:  9-14, KJV:  9 For I was alive without the law once:  but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.  10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.  11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.  12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.  13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.  14 For we know that the law is spiritual:  but I am carnal, sold under sin.

(4.)  2nd Corinthians 5:  17-21, KJV:  17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us:  we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.  21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

There is far more to be said, carefully examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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