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THE WRATH OF THE SEAS, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1886

 

Today, points are shared on storms and weather events as expressions of divine wrath against sin.  Because the Creator is entered into personal relationships we describe as covenants and a new testament in blood, what appear as natural events to correct those who are “born again,” and who now exist as the new creation often are thought to be punishments against sinners and the wicked.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Blelo” (Level 2 with 395 points, a member since December 24, 2015) posted the following:

 

Is god PUNISHING Americans with hurricanes?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.  They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.  Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;  But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.  Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.  In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away:  and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.  Remember Lot’s wife.  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.  I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.  Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.  Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.  (Luke 17:  26-36, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Existence, Mortality and GOD? (08/31/2017); Mercy to the Merciless? (07/30/2017); Righteousness Exalts A Nation (07/04/2017); On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Installing The New President (01/20/2017); About Revelation not Punishment? (11/25/2016); Natural and Spiritual Law? (06/30/2016); Punishment To Show Love? (11/29/2015)

 

“Blelo”, increasingly, mature Christians will agree that, in the same way human events appear as the result of ongoing operations of influences and forces that long have been in effect, yet, have remained unseen, spiritual events appear as the result of ongoing sacred operations and the active presence who is divinity.  It is not necessarily that GOD suddenly becomes angry, interested, or involved; rather, it is that a cosmic and spirit process has been going forward all along.

The GOD we call “our Father” is a god of judgment.  Even so, permanent change for all Creation occurred through acts carried out by operations of human will.  The first pair (Adam) established brevity, instability, mortality, and suffering as inescapable conditions for human existence.  Thus, it is written, that mankind lives under a “death sentence.”  Where direct fellowship with GOD was to supply guidance, instruction, revelation and all necessary sacred knowledge to mankind, the pair sought divinity and wisdom through rebellion and self-promotion.

A single sacred event may address multiple eternal purposes (e.g., admonition, authentication of prophecy, fulfillment of promise).  The events we call “judgments” and “plagues sent by GOD” appear in accordance with sacred laws, proclamations, and prophecies that reveal the character, makeup, and substance of divinity.  In addition to wrath against sin inseparable aspects of Deity can appear including balance, faithfulness, forbearance, holiness, impartiality, lovingkindness, person, righteousness, and sovereign will.  The same event that displays condemnation and harshness against some, also will display others and a remnant covered and shielded from all harm.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Exodus 8:  20-23, King James Version (KJV):  20 And the LORD said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh; lo, he cometh forth to the water; and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.  21 Else, if thou wilt not let my people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies upon thee, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thy houses:  and the houses of the Egyptians shall be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground whereon they are.  22 And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the LORD in the midst of the earth.  23 And I will put a division between my people and thy people:  to morrow shall this sign be.

(2.)  Exodus 34:  4-8, KJV:  4 And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.  5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.  6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,  7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.  8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

(3.)  Zechariah 13:  8-9, KJV:  8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.  9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried:  they shall call on my name, and I will hear them:  I will say, It is my people:  and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Hebrews 12:  3-8, KJV:  3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.  4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.  5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:  6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.  7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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A Depiction of the “Harrowing of Hell”

 

Today, a reply is shared on Christ having gone to the place of torment after dying on the cross.  Relying upon the tools important for life in the flesh, even Christian believers may not completely and correctly apprehend the state of the dead, and the many divine operations that occur focused on and that thereby involve the dead.  The intellect and the mind must employ the frameworks of time and space.  However, this may introduce flawed concepts and notions of “a material place” that has boundaries, partitions, and walls to contain disembodied spirit matter once deposited within the created from the makeup of divinity to their  existence and life.  Where we argue an “abyss”, a “bottomless pit,” “limbo” or “purgatory” we often appeal to extra-biblical sources that may further introduce inconsistency and what appear as departures from the Gospel.  It is not an error to focus upon a “more sure word of prophecy,” rather than upon extrapolations from doctrine, orthodoxy, or tradition.  By focusing on the higher issues of Advent and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, many of the questions concerning punishment, salvation, hell, and the dead are superseded, and put to rest.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

Why did Jesus go to Hell when he died? Did he do something bad?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.  And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,  And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled:  and after that he must be loosed a little season.  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:  and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:  on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.  And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,  And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle:  the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.  And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city:  and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.  (Revelation 20:  1-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017); Hell and The Cross? (04/10/2016); Is Hitler Now in Hell? (07/02/2015); The Harrowing of Hell? (02/10/2015); How To Accept Bible Truth? (04/17/2013); About Preaching the Gospel (04/18/2013); Understanding Hell (01/09/2013); The Golden Age? (01/10/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, some of the most difficult teaching from the holy writings are those points that speak to the death of Jesus on the cross, and what the Savior then accomplished that is often called “the harrowing of hell.”  The divine process for imparting sacred knowledge, here, is one that employs contemplation, discernment, discovery, and growth.  Even so, believers are not to rely upon the finite tools of intellect, secular knowledge, logic, and carnal reason.  Here are some points to help developing Christian believers avoid spiritual confusion:

(1.)  Revelation of divinity to created beings and living creatures began with their creation, and has continued ever since.

(2.)  The Incarnation (i.e., divinity appearing on the earth using the form of a man) required that Jesus respond to multiple streams of authority and law.  As well as parental, civil, and other social standards, the Son of GOD had to respond to the natural law and operations for life upon the earth that included completing mortality; the laws for covenant relationship with divinity; the demands of promise and prophecy; and the unseen, yet, active divine laws of eternal existence.

(3.)  Hell as the grave and a repository for the dead is distinct from hell as the place of torment.  We accept that Jesus was buried, and went to the grave.  However, the Savior did not undergo the usual corruption, decay and rot of death.  Representations of this appear throughout the Bible that may only be correctly recognized and responded to by using ones own spirit content from the makeup of GOD to discern the spirit that is present within such features as events, other persons, prophecy, and the holy writings.  An example is seen in the separation by a pillar of fire (judgment) during the night between Moses and the pursuing army of Pharaoh.  Another is in the parable of the rich man in torment, and the beggar in the bosom of Abraham.

(4.)  Where the place of torment is spoken of as a realm or region where the dead have awareness and self-will for eternity, believers are to be very cautious.  Again, the serpent’s lie to Eve comes into view:  Ye shall not surely die.  Acknowledgement and embrace of the serpent’s truth also requires embracing the Lake of Fire, and the annihilation of the wicked in the second death.  Because all will be judged according to the record of their own deeds out of the book of life, final judgment will have no accuser.  Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire before the resurrection and final tribunal of the wicked.

(5.)  The understanding that Jesus Christ appeared to Adam and the other Patriarch’s, those from the time of the Judges, and those from the times of Covenant through Moses is understood in two ways:  First, that Jesus appeared using angelic and other material forms to be knowable, known, and capable of affiliation and exchange with mankind (Before Abraham was I AM.).  Secondly, Jesus visited the place of rest and safekeeping for those who died in hope of eventual restoration to GOD and salvation.  Here, the separation of spirit from flesh at death is accounted as a parting of the divine and eternal substance imparted to the living from the person of GOD away from the carnal, instable elements from the earth that were established by the Holy Spirit (from dust thou art, unto dust thou shalt return).

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (6.)  Believers are to be judicious, and to carefully consider the agreement and consistency among their own beliefs.  What sinners and developing believers have been given as the Gospel of Jesus Christ is sufficiently challenging that mature believers tend to forgo questionable studies on death and hell.  As with considering exorcism and encounters with Satan such as that experienced by Jesus following his baptism, many become “puffed up,” from exaggerated pride, others become “swallowed up” by conjecture, speculation, errors regarding the occult, and superstition.  Avoiding commitment to whatever generates ungodly conflict and division, the sacred doctrines and practices acknowledged and shared within ones congregation are usually a safe path that has been approved by GOD.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, the integrity of Christ as judge, and the beauty, good, and righteousness of divine judgment are in focus.  Divine judgment and salvation that see the granting of forgiveness, mercy, and release from sin already are occurring on a daily basis, and will soon be completed.  Through the operations of sin the living will lose the “image of GOD” and all resemblance to the character and makeup of Jesus Christ.  Both men and angels may become grotesque, indifferent, unrecognizable, and unresponsive as created beings and living creatures who have been fashioned by GOD and infused with spirit content from the makeup of Deity.  As surely as they no longer value or respect godliness, the Creation as the handiwork of GOD, divine law, eternal purpose, and sacred love, they despise correction, forgiveness and divine mercy.  Their final destruction, and the removal from existence of all corruption, decay and rot are to be acknowledged as acts of healing, justice, lovingkindness, and purification.  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (India)” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why was Jesus so cruel and inhumane that he approved of denying a man burning alive a single drop of water?

Luke 16:24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.  Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken, and left like a wilderness:  there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof.  When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off:  the women come, and set them on fire:  for it is a people of no understanding:  therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.  (Isaiah 27:  9-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); The Comfort Through Christ? (01/13/2017); Signs From The Dead? (01/15/2017); About Revelation not Punishment? (11/25/2016); Life Is GOD’s Intent (11/15/2016); About Judgment By GOD (08/29/2016); Hell and The Cross? (04/10/2016)

 

“Anonymous”, where sinners are blind to their own accountability needed to be in right relationship with divinity, they usually also fail to acknowledge their need for the protection and benefits supplied only by sacred law.   Mature Christian believers generally accept that the issues of cruelty, human error, and exaggerated pride among those having divine authority are put aside by the non-negotiable demands of sacred judgment that include balance, finality, impartiality, mercy, righteousness, and thoroughness.  As created beings and living creatures, the living, both in heaven and on the earth, do not consistently obey and respond to the demands of divine law.  The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the platforms of divine order essential for the universe.  While sin appears as having no material or spirit substance, sin does display direction, effect, and presence.  Sin is the transgression of divine law that expresses the sovereign will (we also say, person, mind and heart) of GOD.

In the same way the dead do not praise GOD because they no longer have consciousness of divinity and existence, those under the influence of sin do not have self-will (willpower) that allows them to operate as agents and servants to GOD.  More than this, those dominated by sin increasingly become defiled, profane, and warped.  Sinners who lose their inborn and other freely-given endowments of spirit content from the makeup of GOD, become abominable, loathsome, and repulsive to divinity for ever.   Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers may receive the inseparable spirit content that includes faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Sinners are not separated from divinity by some form of “holy hostility”, meanness, or the bullying of defenseless and innocent creatures.  Temporal elements begin a widening of separation among the living that is necessary for the independence, integrity, and stability of their coherence.  The elements like backsliding, covetousness, deceit, enmity, passion, and  rebellion only result in eternal damnation where the divine provisions of forgiveness, mercy, and repentance have been repeatedly despised and rejected.  Consider again the following:

(1.)   Hebrews 10:  26-29, King James Version (KJV):  26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

(2.)  James 2:  8-13, KJV:  8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:  9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.  10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.  11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.  12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.  13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Ezekiel 18:  20-24, KJV:  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him:  in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God:  and not that he should return from his ways, and live?  24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned:  in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, survival of the Ten Commandments are the topic.  The operations of divine law are directed to more than simply defining sin and making wickedness recognizable.  In the same way GOD resides within the praises of his people, GOD is continuously present within divine law; and the law is an expression of love among the three  persons of the GODhead (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).  Sacred law states the conditions and terms for covenant relationship; required procedures for the transfer of bequests and inheritance; and the sanctions (corrections/punishments/rewards) that attend both regular obedience and occasional transgression.  A fighter at “Yahoo! Answers (Philippines)” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile data appears) posted the following:

 

Why have the Ten Commandments survived with such impact to the present?

Do the laws against killing, theft, and adultery still carry the same meaning for us as they did for our ancestors?
Why did Moses order the slaying of 3000 fellow Hebrews at Sinai?
And is it possible, as some believe, the tablets preserved in the sacred Ark of the Covenant actually exist?

Update:  I’m watching Mysteries of the Bible

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.  (Psalms 119:  142, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Thoughts On The Commandments (06/27/2017); Judgment, Peace and Warfare? (03/26/2017); Acknowledging the Divine Presence (02/22/2017); The Death Penalty? (10/08/2015); The Decalogue A Moral Guide? (04/15/2015); Divine Law for Mankind? (07/29/2014); Divine Law Speaks of Spirit? (07/30/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, GOD is no less a divinity who rules through law and judgment.  Thus, many mature Christians believers continue to acknowledge the Ten Commandments as an appearance of divinity using flesh, material form, and social process (we say, an Incarnation of GOD).  GOD is an otherwise invisible active presence (we also say, breath, essence, spirit, word) who displays and reveals full divinity as having multiple attributes that include direction, duration, holiness, person, eternal purpose, sovereign will, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

The Ten Commandments delivered to Moses and those who left Egypt have been enduring standards because the makeup and substance of sacred law and divine order are inseparable aspects residing within the makeup (we say, the heart, mind, utterance) of GOD.  Sacred law is eternal, and pertains to the full universe; and the focus must be on what the law does to benefit the living, not what the living do to benefit the law.  Neither the existence nor the righteousness of divine law are dependent upon the approval, intellect, or obedience of finite created beings and living creatures.  This was graphically demonstrated when Moses destroyed the original stone tablets that were written with the finger of GOD as well as by the faithfulness of GOD despite repeated violations of covenant relationship that appeared among the Jews.  Divinity alone justifies, legitimates, maintains, and upholds sacred law. 

The terrible consequences of “breaking the law” while having to be accountable in covenant with GOD are depicted in the holy writings both as the outbreak of fiery, poisonous flying serpents (plague), and as the destruction of every common bond of fellowship brought on by those who are offenders.  Properly understood, there can be no meaningful communication grounded upon betrayal, deceit and lies.  There can be no prosperity that comes by working together, no respect, no security, no stability, and no genuine trust.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, the keeping of divine law is more than the practice of organized religion.  Thus, it is written:  Romans 13:  8-12, King James Version (KJV):  8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.  9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour:  therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.  11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep:  for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.  12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand:  let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, thoughts are shared on death and righteousness within the ministry of salvation provided by Jesus Christ.  Divinity administers death through divine order, sacred law, and as the outworking of gradual processes that are cyclic, predictable, regular, and stable.  While there are many different immediate events (including terrorism) that can be associated with a person’s decease (we say, spoken of as the “cause of death”), death does not usually occur as a sacred event (miracle) expressing the authority and majesty of GOD.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

Agree or Disagree? the reason God permitted the September 11, 2001 victims to die was because it was their time to die. If the terrorists?

didn’t use their free will to commit the 9/11 terrorist attack these 2,996 people would have died by other causes.

– God found ways to save those people who were meant to live.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFBG8f-XZcw

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;  Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit:  for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.  But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:  How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?  For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.  For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.  For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.  Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:  (2nd Corinthians 3:  5-12, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); The Nature of Death (04/25/2017); The Comfort Through Christ? (01/13/2017); Reflections on Existence (12/19/2016); GOD Knows Tomorrow? (04/12/2013); Why Blood? (04/13/2013); Time Before the Sun? (04/14/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, many speak of death as a one-time event for each created being or living creature that is administered and ruled by GOD through biological or mechanical law and process.  As a result, they also allow for “exceptions to the rule,” the occurrence of specific divine interventions as well as intrusions for divine “arbitrary causes” (e.g., accidents, “blessing (!)” chance, fate, luck, predetermination).  Some even mistakenly speak of death as a tool used with divine law only for punishment, and not also for admonition, correction, and release.  Here are some thoughts you might find useful:

1.  In the understanding of many mature Christian believers, the use of death by divinity pertains to the accomplishment of eternal purposes that appear and are manifest as (1) the Creation, (2) the putting forth of existence, (3) the continuing of life, and (4) the ceaseless motions that are edification and growth.  Death is first introduced in the holy writings as “sleep” that allows a rib to be taken from Adam and be fashioned into a female.

2.  Divine law and sacred process see the continued presence of death among created beings and living creatures as (1) an inseparable condition and requirement for their existence (we say, mortality); (2) an aspect of divine order that influences awareness and self-will within the living; and (3) a tool that breaks off otherwise permanent joining and relationships that oppose the will of GOD (e.g., adultery, bondage, fornication, witchcraft).  The second death (destruction in the Lake of Fire) will be used to eliminate every person and vessel of divine spirit that has been warped by the operations of sin so much that they no longer bear the divine image, and are no longer capable of responding to the sovereign will of GOD.

3.  To say that Christ died so that we may live is to proclaim that, using the seed from Adam, special (yet, lawful) operations have been carried out by divinity to produce an entirely new creation.  Upon the cross, Jesus Christ (an embodiment of both divinity and mankind) also became an embodiment of sin; sin then was destroyed through death; and all who believe in Christ became released from their sins through his death.  For Christian believers, death has become a temporary interruption of eternal life (we again say, sleep).  Spirit content and substance from the makeup of GOD are being imparted to indwell the living.  Included are faith, gratitude, holiness, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Genesis 9:  5-7, King James Version (KJV):  5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man.  6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed:  for in the image of God made he man.  7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

(2.)  Ezekiel 18:  23-24, KJV:  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GODand not that he should return from his ways, and live?  24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned:  in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Luke 13:  1-5, KJV:  1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.  2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?  3 I tell you, Nay:  but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?  5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
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Today, topics include forgiveness, divine love, standards for moral character, and the operations of sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Methane Mama” (Level 7 with 104,675 points, a member since November 02, 2010) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians seek to avoid responsibility for their sins by accepting Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross?

Isn’t that a sign of poor moral character to allow an innocent person to take the punishment for their sins?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?  As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.  Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.  (Romans 8:  35-39, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Atonement, Repentance and More (06/06/2017); Redemption Through Ordinary Flesh? (04/20/2017); Reflections on Existence (12/19/2016); The Focus Upon Spirit (09/12/2016); The World and The Cross? (04/19/2016); Love From The Cross? (04/08/2016); The Scale of Salvation? (12/13/2015)

 

“Methane Mama”, your critique of GOD’s plan for salvation is off the mark.  Those who are his by following after Christ understand that the existence of mankind is interwoven with that of the universe.  Mature Christian believers generally accept that, unknown and unseen by the living on earth, many agreements and decisions were made among the persons of the GODhead in order to determine a process of salvation for mankind when the Creation was tainted by their sin.  It is correctly the place of the living to acknowledge and embrace the provision of GOD.  Where men take sin to be a natural and normal condition, they fail to reject the existence of sin as contrary to their own nature and substance.  Thus, as with human awareness and self-will (we say, will power), the finite standards and tools for created beings and living creatures that are available to process secular knowledge (e.g., intellect, logic, carnal reason, science) lack the necessary power, range, and scope to eliminate sin.  More than this, without sacred knowledge and discernment (ability to recognize and respond to spirit content from the makeup of divinity that resides within events, oneself, other persons, prophecy, the holy writings, etc.), the living are “blind” to things having enormous sacred presence.  The divine examination we call “final judgment” will not center so much upon things carnal, material and social (e.g., attitudes, behavior, conduct) as upon the spirit content of both believers and sinners.  Included should be inseparable aspects of the life essence imparted through rebirth (we say, breath, spirit, word) that includes faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Job 38:  4-7, King James Version (KJV):  4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.  5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?  6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;  7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

(2.)  1st Corinthians 3:  11-13, KJV:  11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.  12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;  13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest:  for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Washington, DC

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ADAM AND EVE CAST OUT OF EDEN

 

Today, focus is on mankind’s offense against GOD as having been more than an accident, or an “innocent” mistake.  The error by Adam and his mate must be viewed from a comprehensive divine perspective, for it went beyond expressing covetousness, greed, presumption, and lust for “forbidden fruit.”  The disobedience and rejection of divine law committed by the pair was also a confounding of authority and accountability for governing the earth, a denial of divine love, the interruption of operations to fulfill eternal purposes, and the disruption of spiritual order throughout the universe.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (India)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

So god punished mankind because adam and eve ate his apples?

sounds a little harsh dont you think?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.  (1st Timothy 2:  13-15, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Atonement, Repentance and More (06/06/2017); Law and Divine Process (05/28/2017); Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); Divine Law Expresses Love (05/10/2017); Held Accountable by GOD? (03/31/2017); On Accepting Divine Judgment (02/26/2017); Our Beginnings Were Perfect? (12/14/2015)

 

“Anonymous”, you need to see the things about punishment and sin from a “divine point of view.”  Mankind must now respond to conditions established through divine law as sanctions and outcomes for obedience/disobedience.  When speaking of “sin”, men often rely upon formal language that describes transgressions and violations within a broad system of fixed rules that allow “worth” to be assigned and determined, and permits conflicts and disputes to be resolved on the basis of familiar principles, formal standards, and shared values.  However, the operations of sin must be understood within the frameworks for sacred not secular knowledge.  Sin is no common object, does not contain spirit substance from GOD, and does not exist as a creation from divinity.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and all divine order.  Sin is impersonal, irrational, self-destructive, and unfeeling.  Even so, sin has “direction”, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  Divinity responds to sin as more than simply a negative reaction, or a response to abstract and mechanical elements that appear as normal aspects to living.  Sin is malicious; disrupts regular communion, exchange, and interaction (we say, relationships) between the Creator and the created; and corrupts and defiles the oneness without sameness expressed as eternal purpose.  Thus, sin is also described as betrayal, covenant-breaking, failing to keep ones word, ingratitude, and treachery.  Consider the following:

(1.)  Ephesians 3:  14-19, King James Version (KJV):  14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,  15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,  16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;  17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,  18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;  19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

(2.)  1st Corinthians 15:  20-23, KJV:  20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.  21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.  22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.  23 But every man in his own order:  Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 5:  17-21, KJV:  17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)  18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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