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Holy Water Dove

A depiction of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove and conveyed from the holy writings as a splash of water (see reference below)

 

Today, the reply is on idolatry, the sacredness of holy water, and the imparting of holiness to reside within vessels fashioned by divinity or within man-made objects. To the carnal mind, it sounds impossible that water may contain divine spirit; however, nothing is impossible for GOD. Divinity and the Holy Spirit may appear and be manifest using breath, flesh, oil, speech, and water along with many other visible forms and objects. Even so, through their disobedience and transgression of divine law, the spirit content from the makeup of GOD that had been imparted to Adam and Eve became permanently changed and diminished; their flesh and that of their offspring could no longer be used as a divine temple without the appearance of divinity in flesh as Jesus Christ (we say, the Incarnation). Mankind now craves there be restoration of the sacred gifts that were lost, fresh deposits and endowments of sacred substance, and a full indwelling of the Holy Spirit (we also say, the Breath of Life; the Comforter; the Holy Ghost; the Spirit of Prophecy; the Spirit of Truth). Thus, the life essence from GOD is often described in the Scriptures using figures and tokens that depict mankind and the Promised Land as dry, thirsty, lacking willpower, longing for the early and the latter rain, and continually alert to the appearing of new streams and wells of living water. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shared) posted the following:

 

Is holy water really any different from any other water?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.) Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans. Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4: 7-14, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Bible Language About Spirit? (06/13/2018); The Cross Proclaims Victory (05/12/2016); A Dry Thirsty Land (05/01/2016); Holy Water? (09/28/2015); GOD Known By Action Not Form? (03/18/2015); Believers and the Cross (06/24/2013); A Relationship not Just Knowledge? (06/25/2013); The Dove (12/28/2012); Purchased With Blood? (12/29/2012); On Religious Items (08/29/2012); On Cults (08/30/2012)

 

Anonymous”, many Christians continue to acknowledge multiple benefits and privileges from receiving water that has been consecrated by divine operations as an acceptable aspect of their regular sacred practices (we say, sacraments). In the same way the emblems of bread and wine are venerated as the body of Christ during the Lord’s Supper (Communion), “holy water” is provided as an emblem from the cross. Often, such believers also accept that holiness remains inseparable from the full array of sacred substances within the character, makeup and nature of GOD. Included are faith, forbearance, oneness without sameness, personhood, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

There is what we call “holy water” that has been set apart (sanctified) by men through prayer for divine use, and may first have come from any of several natural sources (e.g., distilled water; running water from a brook, stream, or river; spring water; standing water from a lake or pond; water from melting and thawed ice). There also is “holy water” whose nature and substance has been changed by deposits and endowments of spirit content from the makeup of active presence (we also say, divine fullness; the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit).

In the same way, divine life essence (breath; spirit; word) may be imparted to the soil establishing “holy ground” as in the account of Moses, the Holy Spirit operates to cleanse and prepare man-made objects, and the followers of Jesus to exist as vessels who contain and embody spirit content from GOD. Such vessels are not to be exalted or worshiped as though they were idols that contain gods, or could bestow benefits and privileges to the living apart from the divine fullness. As living sacrifices and tools to be used for sacred works, there are “holy men” (apostles, priests, prophets, and spokespersons; kings, princes, and rulers; and standing for the disciples of Jesus to be known as the offspring of GOD, and joint heirs with Jesus Christ); and there may be divine utensils and vessels for service at a consecrated altar. Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. 1st Corinthians 12: 3, King James Version (KJV): 3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

2. Romans 8: 5-9, KJV: 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

3. 2nd Corinthians 4: 5-11, 5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. 8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; 10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. John 19: 31-35, KJV: 31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on the existence of the ocean as a “proof” of the existence of divinity.  Correctly understood, the living are to be the witness that GOD lives; and divine spirit is the highest, most legitimate “evidence” for divinity.  A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” Religion and Spirituality forum using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile data appears) posted the following:

 

Are the oceans proof of God? Without the oceans, no rain. No rain, no life on earth?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen:  that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:  before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.  I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you:  therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.  Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand:  I will work, and who shall let it?  (Isaiah 43:  10-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  “I Am The Resurrection” (03/25/2018); Heaven Temporal, GOD Eternal (12/12/2017); Relying on Sacred “Evidence” (11/20/2017); Proof That GOD Exists? (10/16/2016); GOD Is A Spirit (12/07/2014); The Mystery of His Appearing (12/08/2014); The Fullness of GODhead? (01/09/2014); World Without End? (01/10/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, the acknowledgment of divine fullness (we say, the Creator; the GODhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) as the origin and source for all that exists and lives is not to be on the basis of appetite (hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), emotion/mental process (fantasy, intelligence, logic, carnal reason), or the material objects of the natural world (forests, lakes, mountains, rivers, the sun, moon and stars) so much as on the basis of divine consciousness and spirit content imparted from divinity to indwell created beings and living creatures.  While many things reveal and serve as tools to make the inseparable aspects of unseen divinity visible as an active presence, it is the makeup and spirit substance of GOD that most directly communicates to created beings and living creatures.  Included are faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, oneness without sameness, personhood, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Here are some points you might find useful as you continue your study that use language from the Bible:

(1.)  Psalms 19:  1-6, King James Version (KJV):  1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.  2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.  3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.  4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,  5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.  6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it:  and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

(2.)  Jeremiah 5:  21-23, KJV:  21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:  22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD:  will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it:  and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?  23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.

(3.)  1st Corinthians 2:  7-14, KJV:  7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:  8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:  for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

(4.)  Romans 1:  16-23, KJV:  16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  Revelation 21:  1-4, KJV:  1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:  for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.  2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.  3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.  4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain:  for the former things are passed away.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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