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Today, the reply is on atheist disbelief existing as an aspect of reason and science, yet, being no alternative to acknowledgement, commitment, and faith that respond to the existence of divine fullness.  The problems generated by atheism center on false and logically flawed professions to justify disbelief; the endorsement of pseudo-intellectualism; and the communication, proliferation, and transfer of vanity (the lack of divine content and sacred substance).  Using the disciplines and rules for genuine scientific inquiry, there are multiple times and settings where divinity is an inappropriate hypothetical concept that does not further clarification, discourse, and formal dialog.  In such cases, divinity correctly should be excluded as an unworkable abstraction.  That this is so does not discount the truth that spiritual events and operations require discipline, knowledge, and practice that are sacred in content, operation, and outcome as seen through fasting, prayer, and exorcism.  One of the many fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why is it that by many definitions atheism is very stupid?

Even Carl Sagan said

“An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence. Because God can be relegated to remote times and places and to ultimate causes, we would have to know a great deal more about the universe than we do know to be sure that no such God exist”

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;  And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him:  and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.  He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.  And they brought him unto him:  and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.  And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.  And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him:  but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.  And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.  When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.  And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him:  and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.  But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.  And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?  And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.  (Mark 9:  17-29, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  We Begin Within GOD (02/06/2018); Truths To Live By (02/02/2018); Secular History, Sacred Revelation? (01/11/2018); The Most Important Thing (12/28/2017); Confused By Spiritual Puzzles (11/13/2017); Standing On The ABCs? (11/09/2017); “and without Him nothing” (08/14/2017); About Deluding Yourself? (09/22/2014); Delusions and Revelation (09/23/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, science does not go far enough in reaching all human needs.  Finite carnal reason and logic that serve as the platform for atheist thought are not complex, truly intellectual, or profound.  Simply put, and using common sense terms, two rules prevail:  (1) “seeing is believing;” and (2) the only phenomena of life that is fit for the focus of science must display measurable dimensions (e.g., amount, density, height, length, weight), and must be subject to experimental manipulation.  The human mind is bombarded with enormous amounts of data and information from moment to moment.  Included are signals from organs and tissues that make up the material body, emotions (e.g., anger, fear, sorrow), operations of the mind (e.g., clairvoyance, imagination, recall, thought), and sensations (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching).  There must be principles, rules and standards in place that establish order, determine benefit, and permit the recognition of priority conditions and unmet needs.  

Properly understood, science and its promotion of secular knowledge, is a peculiar accord and covenant for shared meaning, quality, and value that denies and excludes consideration of everything that has divinity as its cause, makeup, origin, and process.  The excellence and usefulness of science turns on its attention to detail through analysis; its establishment of predictability and validity through precise measurement and repetition; and its being able to identify fixed points of reference within complex, hidden, or obscured sequences.  Thus, in the same way children who can recite their ABCs are not foretelling the future, or reading the mind of their teacher when saying the alphabet, yet, they know “XYZ” is coming, science, too, is a limited, plain, and simple element for understanding the fullness of life.  (While children may recite the alphabet perfectly, many still can not read and write.  They must gain skill to perform the routines of combination and permutation used when sounding out or spelling words; and they must practice to develop comprehension.)

Like the frameworks of time and space, secular knowledge is an adjunct, an additional tool, and a further provision from divinity along with sacred knowledge, and is not in place of sacred knowledge.  (Has the automobile completely eliminated the usefulness of a bicycle?)  Mankind has very real, unmet emotional, psychological, and spiritual needs that even medical science does not address.  Included are needs for forgiveness, peace, relief from human error and sin (even scientists are included within the class of “sinners”), respect, and truth that directs and sustains the highest levels for human potential.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  John 4:  24,  King James Version (KJV):  24 God is a Spirit:  and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

(2.)  Romans 10:  1-9, KJV:  1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.  2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.  3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.  5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.  6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)  7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)  8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart:  that is, the word of faith, which we preach;  9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

There are many more verses and passages that could be cited.  (For example, (3. ) Romans 1:  16-22, KJV:  16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, points are shared on mankind as more than “a brain” having physical being in a material world.  Where we agree that humans are more than mere “thinking machines,” it is acceptable to ask, In what way?  More than this, the proposed existence of GOD also requires consideration for such elements as communication with Deity, divine law, sacred process, and eternal purpose.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “va2906” (Level 2 with 530 points, a member since July 30, 2016) posted the following:
 

Why would God give us a brain and then give us a nonsensical bible, then tell us were going to Hell if we don’t believe?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.  (2nd Timothy 1:  7, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Convinced/Convicted? (05/16/2017); Tools For Knowing Divinity (05/12/2017); Christianity Is Not Mindless (05/02/2017); Proof That GOD Exists? (10/16/2016); Abstractions, Atheism and I.Q. (08/18/2016); The Rise in Atheism? (07/07/2016); Guided By Divine Truth (06/20/2016)

 

“va2906”, the problem of defining and knowing “spirit” will be encountered for anyone seeking a full and correct knowledge of mankind.  Many are ignorant and lack sacred knowledge because they refuse to respect such divine tools as the Bible.  Where you will agree that the content of living creatures on the earth is made visible through their multiple abilities, activities, characteristics, skills, and possibilities for expression, it is reasonable to say, mankind is more than simply “a brain.”  Through the operations of “mind”, the living are able to process unbelievable amounts of data and information that include appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual arousal), emotions (e.g., anger, fear, sorrow), secular knowledge, sensations (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), and abstract thought (e.g., measurable dimension, fantasy, imagination, projection).  With this in view, human potential is understood as going beyond mechanical “data processing,” for through the operations of awareness and self-will mankind may repeatedly display an animal, a distinctly human nature, or a godly and spirit-filled nature akin to that attributed to Deity.  

Finite academic and mental tools such as intellect, logic, carnal reason, and “critical thinking” have been found inadequate and inappropriate for acquiring and applying the necessary revelation and sacred knowledge that must be imparted by GOD for men to truly know their Creator.  GOD is active presence and “spirit” (we also say, breath, life essence, utterance, word) who expresses and uses such elements as authority, oneness without sameness, ownership, person, purpose, the frameworks of time and space as well as “sovereign will.”   Where deposits of spirit substance from the makeup of GOD reside within created beings and living creatures they all may project the divine spirit and the “image of GOD.”

Sinners who endure the operations spoken of as rebirth (death, burial, and resurrection of the inborn/inbred spirit; renewal having spirit content from GOD through Jesus Christ) are to be understood as sons and daughters, offspring of GOD, and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ, the Son of the Highest.  Because GOD is immortal, incorruptible, and invisible, divinity can only be fully recognized and responded to by operations of ones own endowment of spirit from GOD.  Included must be faith, holiness, hope, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Consider the following points from the Bible:

(1.)  John 3:  1-7, King James Version (KJV):  1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:  2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God:  for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.  3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.  4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?  5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(2.)  John 1:  11-14, KJV:  11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.  12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:  13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.  14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on language describing the sinner’s standing as a new creation of GOD through the Holy Spirit.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers (Philippines)” using the ID “Adam” (Level 1 with 121 points, a member since April 26, 2017) posted the following:

 

What does it mean to be convicted/convinced by the Holy Spirit?

Thoughts? Scripture?

Thanks in advance!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:  For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:  In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.  But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.  Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;  And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:  Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.  Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any:  even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.  And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.  (Colossians 3:  5-15, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Genuine Spiritual Discernment? (03/27/2017); The Complete Divine Revelation? (03/10/2017); Divine Meanings and Values? (03/31/2016); Convicted By His Humility (09/10/2015); American Culture and Law? (07/13/2015); Meanings That Support Eternal Existence? (06/02/2015); How To Have Conviction (11/24/2012); A Text for Lives Today? (11/25/2012)

 

“Adam”, here are some points I can share as a Christian believer.  A sinner must eventually become aware of and realize the active presence of divine substance within their own life such as faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, hope, joy, lovingkindness, meekness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.   Sacred knowledge and discernment (ability to apply ones own spirit content from the makeup of GOD as a standard to recognize and respond to deposits of the same spirit matter within events, oneself, other persons, utterances, etc.) can be gained through contemplation and prayer, fellowship with other believers, regular study of the holy writings, and observance of spiritual practices (we say, “sacraments” such as baptism, confession, the Lord’s Supper).

The language that one is “convinced” actually speaks to becoming “persuaded”, and therefore suggests that the process of the Holy Spirit relies on the finite human tools of academic argument, debate, intelligence, logic, carnal reason, and critical thinking.  More correctly understood, there are  operations of GOD performed through the covenant relationship established by Christ, and the “battle” is not for the mind, rather it is for the self-will to conform to the divine will. 

The language that one is “convicted” speaks to acknowledging ones own immersion within a divine process of judgment against sin that already has been concluded.  Mature believers understand all mankind is guilty before GOD, is now sentenced to death, and is both required to complete mortality and endure an ongoing examination for final destruction in a second death.  Only by atonement and the many provisions of GOD in Christ does the guilty sinner become transformed to exist having “eternal life” as a companion to immortal, incorruptible, invisible divinity.  Consider again the following using language from the Bible:

(1.)  Ezekiel 18:  19-21, King James Version (KJV):  19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

(2.)  2nd Corinthians 1:  9-10, KJV:  9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:  10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver:  in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;

(3.)  Romans 5:  6-9, KJV:  6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.  7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die:  yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.  8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.  9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

(4.)  Romans 5:  17-21, KJV:  17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)  18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.  19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

(5.)  Romans 8:  5-9, KJV:  5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (6.)  Revelation 21:  7-8, KJV:  7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.  8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:  which is the second death.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Points are shared, today, on recognizing Jesus Christ as a physical person, and a spirit person.  Even from before the time of his birth, for anyone to correctly recognize who Jesus is there must be operations of the Holy Spirit, including being touched by blood, correction, and truth from the cross.  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Luke 24:39 Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see–for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”?

Does this mean that Jesus did not die, if we read it using common sense?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast:  The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.  Philip cometh and telleth Andrew:  and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.  And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone:  but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.  He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.  If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be:  if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.  Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:  but for this cause came I unto this hour.  Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.  The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered:  others said, An angel spake to him.  Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.  (John 12:  20-30, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Cross and Resurrection Sunday? (03/16/2016); Seeing Jesus While Alive? (02/05/2016); In The Image of Man (05/04/2016); The Only Physical Being in Heaven? (06/17/2015); Death, Forgiveness, Sin and Spirit? (05/28/2015); The Image of GOD? (10/10/2013); Embodied Afterlife? (10/11/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, correctly recognizing Jesus Christ requires discernment (the ability to use ones own spirit content to distinguish and connect to spirit substance from divinity that appears in actions, events, other persons, purposes, statements, etc.), a spiritual gift that must be provided by GOD.  Both before and following his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection, only those closely associated with Jesus of Nazareth had the ability to recognize him in a crowd.  Jesus was plain looking with no outstanding physical features that set him apart (we say, he was nondescript).  He did not continually “glow” from glory as Moses did at one time following his communion with GOD in the mountains.  Surrounded by the twelve apostles and an ever-increasing multitude of disciples, the Lord became “impressive” only when he acted and spoke in the authority and power of his priesthood.  For this reason, someone who could betray him was sought, one of his close followers, who could approach him, even give him a kiss, and identify him in the darkness of night.  In the same way Mary mistook Jesus to be a stranger (the gardener) at the tomb, and those on the road to Emmaus could not recognize the Lord until he broke bread and offered thanks to the Father, the Resurrected One is not recognized among us today by those relying upon “common sense.”  To “recognize” the Lord and those sent as his ambassadors, believers must apply their own faith and sacred knowledge as well as their experiences through fellowship and ongoing practice of the sacraments.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Matthew 14:  23-27, King James Version (KJV):  23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.  24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves:  for the wind was contrary. 25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.  26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.  27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.

(2.)  Jeremiah 29:  11-13, KJV:  11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.  12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.  13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

(3.)  Acts 7:  54-56, KJV:  54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.  55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,  56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

There is far more to be said, understood, and spiritually taken in.  (For example, (4.)  Revelation 1:  13-18, KJV:  13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.  14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;  15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.  16 And he had in his right hand seven stars:  and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword:  and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.  17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:  18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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