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Gethsemane
A Depiction of Jesus in Prayer at Gethsemane

 

Today, reply is on believers becoming immersed in and joined to divinity through sacred prayer.   The idea of “vain repetition” in ones prayers addresses making public displays of ones religious practices to impress others, and addresses offering prayer to Deity that lacks spirit content from the makeup of GOD.  Through the example and guidance shared by Jesus Christ, we see that the problems that make a person’s prayers ineffectual arise from the intent, process, and purpose of their prayer.  Sacred prayer is to be more than a repeating of specific language and speech, or recurring requests to meet recurring needs.  In the same way, “I love you” may be exchanged countless times between a man and his spouse without the familiar words becoming false, meaningless and trite, believers may approach divinity sharing “thank you,” “please forgive,” and “Amen” without also committing transgression of divine law, or the offering of “vain repetition.”  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why did Jesus say the same prayer 3 times in a row, if praying repetitiously is bad?

(Matthew 26:39-44):

“And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

And he came to the disciples and found them sleeping; and he said to Peter, “So, could you not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, thy will be done.” And again he came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. So, leaving them again, he went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words.”

Some sects teach praying in repetitions is bad but Jesus prayed in repetitions in this example

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are:  for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.  But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do:  for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.  Be not ye therefore like unto them:  for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.  (Matthew 6:  5-8, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The GOD Who Answers? (04/04/2017); Benefits of the Rosary (02/14/2017); The Cross was Premature? (04/07/2016); The Power in Prayer? (08/22/2014); The Rosary and Other Prayers? (08/23/2014); Why Christians Pray for Others (01/12/2014); GOD is Jesus? (01/13/2014); The Passion at Gethsemane (03/28/2013); Separated and Sealed? (03/29/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, here are some points Christian believers benefit by:

(1.)  In the same way saying “I love you” should never be thought of as boring, powerless, and unnecessary between a husband and wife, repeating specific phrases, thoughts, and words in prayer (e.g., thy kingdom come, thy will be done) are not forbidden or prohibited.  Even so, all who pray are counseled to avoid “vain repetition,” making presentations that lack spirit substance from the makeup of GOD such as balance, faith, gratitude, humility, joy, longsuffering, lovingkindness, and unselfishness. 

(2.)  The sacred process of prayer is one of contact, exchange, and interaction with the fullness of divinity (we say, the GODhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) by the spirit substance that has been imparted to a created being or living creature, and is more than a matter of speaking words, the grandness and poetry of ones vocabulary, or using speech to create a focus on desires.  There is a rejoining of spirit to Spirit, and an affirmation of sacred personhood that displays oneness without sameness.

(3.)  Just as prayers can not be offered to change the heart and mind of GOD (i.e., bribe, influence, manipulate divinity),  there are many secular and worldly things maintained through mechanical means and natural laws that do not respond to the prayers of believers.  Even so, it is correct to importune and persevere in prayer.

(4.)  Given that divinity is immutable and unchanging, there are multiple features that repeatedly appear as aspects of sacred prayer.  Included are confession, requesting counsel, declaring the terms of covenant, intercession, petition, praise, and thanksgiving.  Properly offered prayers do not present complaining, nagging, self-promotion, condemning and slandering others, or gossip and talebearing.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.) using language from the Bible, sacred prayer continues discovery and displaying respect by believers as well as instruction and revelation from divinity:  Romans 8:  26, King James Version (KJV):  26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:  for we know not what we should pray for as we ought:  but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, more points are shared on the process of Scripture and why similar accounts featuring different persons and times may appear. 

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  Stories Repeated in the Bible? (08/30/2014)—(5.)  Often, what appears as repetition in the Scriptures presents added and new information that furthers discernment and insight.  The process of spirit growth is one of gradual change and transformation.  The many life lessons of the Bible are conveyed using such elements as comparison, contrast, and diversity.  Many points are provided as admonitions and warning, others for explanation and instruction, while some serve to establish or trigger memory.  What appears to be their similarity and sameness is often the result of their displaying a shared and single spirit.  In the power and purpose of GOD, holy writings provide deposits of spirit content that continually nourish, refresh, and revive ones own endowment of spirit from GOD.  Finite intelligence may only recognize these operations when they appear through familiar forms and clear patterns.  Consider how, when assembling a jigsaw puzzle with thousands of pieces, we find there are many parts that at first appear all to be the same, that we later discover have form and unique details that make each one different from the others.  More than serving to publish carnal and historical information, the Scriptures impart inseparable (where one appears, all the others appear) aspects of divinity from the makeup of GOD.  Thus, with faith there are also holiness, joy, love, righteousness, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  To those lacking discernment (ability to use their own spirit content to recognize and respond to spirit content in events, objects, persons, purposes) these aspects of GOD are lumped together, spoken of, and thought to be interchangeable—that they do the same thing and work the same way.  In fact, however, they are all distinct, yet only have their sacred effect interacting and working together.

(6.)  The device of divine prophecy first appears in the Scriptures during the account of Adam and Eve hearing GOD rebuke the serpent.  Early accounts of prophecy where dreams are used to proclaim divine intent include visions given patriarchs Abraham and Jacob.  Later examples are kings David and Solomon, prophets Ezekiel and Micah, the Apostle Paul, and John the Revelator.  In the Bible, lessons are repeated to demonstrate that the word from GOD given forth as proclamation, promise, and prophecy is credible, focused, trustworthy, and unchanging.

(7.)  Both Daniel and Joseph are symbols, and types (figures that appear repeatedly to represent a peculiar theme, a specific principle, or an operation of GOD) like Jacob and Esau that point to features among humanity such as birthright, brotherhood, competition, covenant, duty, gifts, sibling rivalry, and inheritance to clarify priesthood, service to GOD, and intimate relationship with divinity.  Believers are to discern and recognize that the same GOD is able to function and operate in different conditions and circumstances. 

(8.)  All dreams do not carry messages from GOD that reveal sacred events with otherwise hidden and invisible purpose, and our routine dreams are not prophetic in nature.  Prophetic dreams appear through operations by an aspect of full divine person, the Holy Spirit, through and upon the spirit content of those having faith from GOD.  Ordinarily, dreams are a product of ones emotional and mental states.  Actions and declarations are repeated in Scripture to indicate the correct interpretation, divine origin, and significance of dreams and prophesies.  Where a dream from GOD recurs or repeats, it is to indicate the firmness of divine purpose.  See Deuteronomy 13:  1-5, Ecclesiastes 5:  2-3 and 7, Jeremiah 23:  31-33, Daniel 2:  28, Amos 3:  7, Genesis 41:  32 and Acts 2:17, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:   Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me:  and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in:  behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.  But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:  And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.  Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.  And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.  For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.  Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts.  But ye said, Wherein shall we return?  (Malachi 3:  1-7, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Chosen To Serve As Prophets (01/01/2014); Lawful Revenge? (01/02/2014); Why A “Spokesperson”? (01/14/2013); No Contradictions? (01/15/2013); About Conversion (09/03/2012)

 

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (9.)  The Scriptures also are recorded to serve as evidence and testimony in divine judgment.  The device of repetition of similar events over time may be seen as establishing the “weight of evidence” for argument in the same way as multiple eye witness reports, and corroborating materials such as ballistic test results, DNA, fibers, finger prints and telephone logs.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

The process of Scripture and the repetition of peculiar sacred accounts are topics, today.  Also, there is more on family and beliefs of children.  A “Yahoo! Answers” fighter using the ID “Brittany” Level 1 with 89 points, a member since December 24,  2012) posted the following:

 

Daniel vs Joseph (Religion)?

I was watching shows with my younger cousin and I realized between VeggieTales and Joseph: King of Dreams, that the two stories are almost identical. Guy understands dreams, king is happy, things get ****** up, happy ending. Are these two seperate religions? Or both Christianity? What’s the point of the same story being retold twice?

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  Family and Beliefs of Children? (08/28/2014)—(5.)  Parents are not brainwashing or coercing their children because they introduce the ABC’s, reading, and spelling.  Neither are parents enslaving their child by sharing the Bible, church attendance, and unselfish service.  All children taught the alphabet do not go on to learn reading and writing.  Many choose to become defiant, rebellious, and do not learn in classroom settings and schools.  It remains that caretakers and parents can not teach faith.  Faith is an aspect of divine makeup along with other inseparable spirit content that must be provided by operations from GOD.  Included are forgiveness, holiness, joy, longsuffering, love, truthfulness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Parents may create, identify, and set up opportunities for their children; provide examples and models; clarify sacred knowledge; or acknowledge, encourage and praise efforts of their children to learn and conform to sacred standards.  The home must prepare children for growth and participation within the church; and experience within the two social settings must complete and reinforce the sacred content and process of one another.  See again Genesis 18:  19, Ezra 9:  1-3, Malachi 2:  11-17, Malachi 3:  14-18 and Malachi 4:  5-6, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:  because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.  They are of the world:  therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.  We are of God:  he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.  Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.  Beloved, let us love one another:  for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.  (1st John 4:  4-8, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Can the Word of GOD Be Altered? (07/12/2014); A Common Heritage? (07/13/2014); The Point of Knowledge? (07/06/2014); The Issue Is Not Accuracy (05/16/2014); Denying Oneself (05/17/2014); Unguarded Chocolates? (11/07/2013); Jesus Rose? (11/08/2013); How Children Learn (11/09/2013); Recognizing True Prophets (05/02/2013); Jesus, A Party Animal? (05/03/2013)

 

“Brittany”, here are a few points on Christian belief that you might find helpful:

(1.)  The ancient writings collected together as the Bible are a record of cosmic and human events that display the active presence of GOD through thousands of lives, over thousands of years (we say, a divine perspective).

(2.)  GOD is a spirit who has put forth all existence.  The language throughout the Scriptures comes from finite carnal, material and social relationships among created beings and living creatures, yet, is intended to describe and reveal divinity that is totally spirit in makeup and substance.  We say GOD is immutable and unchanging, given that he repeatedly uses specific devices and divine operations (e.g., covenant, law, dreams, healing, prophecy, suffering, raising the dead) to make known and reveal divinity to the living.

(3.)  Depictions and portrayals of the Bible shown in animations, TV programs, and movies (e.g., Noah, The Passion, The Ten Commandments) often are adaptations where the text has been altered responding to varying limitations.  The sacred quality of the Scriptures may be totally ignored in the effort to produce something dramatic, simple, sensational, and sexually engaging.  Profane and non-spiritual elements will appear when, in their efforts to be professional, directors and producers make no requirement of belief and commitment for those who are asked to carry out their projects.  Oversimplification and other spiritual errors will be common because of aesthetic, artistic, and budgeting concerns as well as on the basis of the godliness, insight, understanding, and quality of skill and talent among actors, illustrators, and technical staff.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example (4.)  Through baptism (death of ones inborn spirit, rebirth having divine DNA, so to speak), believers are equipped to correctly understand and value the aspects of divinity that have been revealed.  Just like a blind man may be willing, and want to see, yet, is not equipped, so believers can not “see” without an experience of rebirth.  Born again, believers gradually “grow up” again by acquiring sacred knowledge, continuing sacred practices, overcoming life challenges, and participating in fellowship with other believers.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Today, points are shared on the benefit in prayer when using the Rosary.   A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Suzy” (Level 7 wit 32,721 points, a member since June 09, 2007) posted the following:

 

So, why would people keep saying the rosary? 

Update : (Matthew 6:7) But when praying, do not say the same things over and over again, just as the people of the nations do, for they imagine they will get a hearing for their use of many words.

Update 2: FIREBALL, all I did was ask a question to try to understand why they would do this when Jesus said not to. Why did you put “NOT OUR BUSINESS…WE ARE NOT THE RELIG COPS”?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.  When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!  Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.  (John 19:  25-27, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  His Burden Is Light? (09/21/2013); Evil is not Sin? (09/22/2013); Utterance is Spirit (09/08/2013); A Start for the Idea of GOD? (09/09/2013);GOD Knows Tomorrow? (04/12/2013); Outgrowing Childhood Prayers? (04/07/2013); Confessing Only to GOD? (04/08/2013); When You Pray (09/12/2012); Unanswered Prayers? (09/11/2012)       

 

“Suzy”, here are some points to consider that may further improve and perfect your prayer life:

(1.)  The process of prayer using the Rosary is one of turning away from the harshness, treachery, and violence of the World to focus upon the beauty, and glory of Mary and her Son, our Savior.  Believers willingly direct their emotions and thoughts to events (some say, mysteries) in the lives of the holy mother and son.  For Christians, continuous and uninterrupted meditation upon the things given from GOD for eternal life and salvation establish spiritual discernment (the ability to recognize and respond to sacred content within life experiences such as events, motives, objects, other persons, purposes, sacred practices (we say, sacraments), and the holy writings. 

(2.)  The challenge against the Rosary because of repetition is a trick from the Adversary to distract ones attention away from divinity.  Common sense dictates that all divine standards and tools provided as gifts to created beings and living creatures must be employed and put to work on the basis of conditions and needs that may vary over time, yet, are themselves immutable and unchanging.  The recognition of Christ (and of his mother) is only by operations of the Holy Spirit.

(3.)  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the lawgiver, and the Creation that relies upon sacred law for divine order.  The attack by sin is always through awareness and self-will.  The prayers of the Rosary are still a shield and weapon against sin.  The power in offering Rosary and other scriptural prayers include alertness, clarity, peace of mind, and a heightened consciousness of divine presence.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  For those in an intimate relationship, to repeatedly say “I love you,” is not regarded as boring, insulting, or offensive. Those who pray the Rosary confess their continuing joy, their need, and their respect.  Also, the Savior has taught that believers should importune (persist, repeat) in their prayers that make petitions and requests of GOD until they are answered (and, even, after they are answered) as acknowledgement of divine authority and sovereignty.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC