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Lazarus reborn and in Abraham’s Bosom

 

Today, additional points are shared on communicating with the dead and those now thought to be in heaven.  It is correct to be cautious in opening ourselves to others while we are in bereavement, for there are many who do not share our faith and our private understandings.  In addition to those who will impose opinions that arise from their own lack of sacred knowledge, often there are also those who are intrusive, overbearing, and presumptuous.  The mourner must be vigilant, for even those who seem to be harmless and well-meaning may corrupt and disrespect carefully-selected things that truly are necessary in our ongoing growth and recovery.  Having said this, the mourner must have the boldness to fashion their own new life, and should not shrink from learning and sharing again.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  The Comfort Through Christ? (01/13/2017)—The hope of the living must be in GOD.  Desire for communication and exchange with the dead arises from aspects of carnal reasoning along with existence being understood as a condition that is only material, physical, and social.  For those in bereavement, features such as appetite (e.g., hunger, thirst, sexual cravings), sensation (e.g., hearing, seeing, tasting, touching), and emotion/mental functions (e.g., anger, fear, imagination, recall) become objects for focus and response, rather than interaction and life experience as directed through divine spirit content.  It is correct to say there are specific divine laws and rules that govern both the living and the dead, and the Bible is our most trusted source for that kind of information.  Mechanical, recurring, and routine aspects of living are described as being experienced and shared by all.  Because concentration upon the occult and the supernatural usually result in spiritual confusion, mature believers often discourage faith within the living that relies too heavily upon apparitions, dreams, signs, or visitations from the dead.  Contact with those who died and are now alive again through resurrection (e.g., Jesus, his mother Mary, and certain of the saints) through sacred events (we say, miracles) and through the Holy Spirit must be carefully examined using earlier Scripture accounts as legitimate sacred standards.  Thus, while the parable shared by the Savior using Lazarus, a beggar, and Dives, a rich man, is not intended as a revelation that describes heaven such as later appears through prophecy, the account makes many points concerning the divine law and restrictions that set heaven apart as sanctified.  All who appear in the divine presence are alive, yet, not in the same form and manner as that required to be upon the earth.  Consider the Scriptures below.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:  for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.  But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.  (1st Corinthians 15:  51-57, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Purpose of Resurrection (07/05/2016); The Dimensions of Death? (04/24/2016); The Return to Dust? (06/14/2015); Death is a Divine Tool (09/15/2014); A Sleep and a Second Death (09/16/2014); Resurrection from the Dead? (04/23/2014); Not A Matter Of Opinion (04/24/2014)
 

Comfort to the believers in Christ includes the following:

(1.)  Matthew 5:  4, King James Version (KJV):  4 Blessed are they that mourn:  for they shall be comforted.

(2.)  Psalms 146:  3-5, KJV:  3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.  4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.  5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:

(3.)  Isaiah 8:  19-20, KJV:  19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter:  should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?  20 To the law and to the testimony:  if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

(4.)  Matthew 22:  31-33, KJV:  31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,  32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.  33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

(5.)  Ecclesiastes 9:  1-6, KJV:  1 For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God:  no man knoweth either love or hatred by all that is before them.  2 All things come alike to all:  there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not:  as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.  3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all:  yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.  4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope:  for a living dog is better than a dead lion.  5 For the living know that they shall die:  but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.  6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

(6.)  1st Corinthians 15:  12-22, KJV:  12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?  13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:  14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.  15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ:  whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.  16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:  17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.  18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.  19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.  20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.  21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.  22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (7.)  Luke 16:  19-31, KJV:  19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:  20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,  21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table:  moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.  22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom:  the rich man also died, and was buried;  23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.  24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.  25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things:  but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.  26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed:  so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.  27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:  28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.  29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.  30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham:  but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.  31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, divine names, roles, and two versions of the Bible are in view.  The holy names revealed and used for communication within relationships between the Creator and mankind have included El Shaddai (The Almighty), Jealous, Jehovah, and the Lord of Hosts.  Titles and names used for Jesus Christ include the Redeemer, the Savior, the Son of the Highest, and the Zeal of the Lord.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no identifying profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Jehovah is the First and the Last, correct?

Isaiah 44 vs 6: This is what Jehovah says, The King of Israel and His Repurchaser, Jehovah of armies: I am the first and the Last. There is no God but me.

According to Revelation 2:8 And to the angel of the congregation in Smyrna write; These are the things that He says, The first and The Last who became dead and came to life again.

Can you please tell me “when did Jehovah die?”

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  And he is the head of the body, the church:  who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:  (Colossians 1:  12-22, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The GOD Named “Jealous” (09/15/2016); Jesus Known As Word (01/17/2016); We Call Him Jealous? (10/25/2015); The Preeminence of the Word (08/23/2015);The Lamb of GOD (08/19/2015); Known By Divine Revelation (06/16/2015); Evil is not Sin? (09/22/2013); Moses Killed? (09/23/2013) 

 

“Anonymous”, may I share a response?  Many mature Christian believers are not familiar with more than a single translation or version of the Bible, and you seem to be quoting the contemporary language Bible shared among Jehovah’s Witnesses, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Revision), NWT.  Those who pursue a study of multiple presentations often resolve the conflicts and differences among them by applying the rule that says, Not the letter, but the spirit…intent, what it means, and what you are to understand by it.  Without arguing the issue of oneness and sameness for Christ within the full GODhead with the Father and the Holy Spirit, for many readers of the King James Version (KJV), the language of “alpha and omega” is thought to acknowledge the role of Jesus Christ as the Creator as well as his preeminence in atonement, judgment, resurrection, and salvation.  The Prophet Isaiah shows GOD to be sanctified (exalted; set apart) by declaring his immortality, incorruption, and purity (i.e., absence of aging, decay, rotting) as well as having divine foreknowledge, and unlimited sacred duration (i.e., active and present (here) through the continuums of time and space we call the past, now (the present), and the future).  The many titles granted to Jesus Christ within the Scriptures, and the living culture of born-again believers include “Faithful and True,” “head of the church,” “the king of glory,” “the mighty GOD,” “the Everlasting Father,” “the Crucified One,” “the One Sent,” and “the Risen Lord.”  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Isaiah 9:  6-7, King James Version (KJV):  6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:  and the government shall be upon his shoulder:  and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.  7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

(2.)  Revelation 1:  5-8, KJV:  5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,  6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.  7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:  and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.  8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

(3.)  Psalms 24:  7-10, KJV:  7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.  8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.  9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.  10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Revelation 19:  11-14, KJV:  11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.  12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.  13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:  and his name is called The Word of God.  14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Covenant with divinity, with a chosen worship community, and the curses broken by the death of Jesus upon the cross are topics, today.  Curses are manifestations of the wrath of GOD against sin.  The Savior’s death on the cross granted mankind a new level of freedom as believers in GOD.  What we speak of as “the curse of the law” are the errors and limitations that result from the character, nature, and operations of the divine directives that expose and identify sin, yet, do not eliminate and remove it.  Being “under the works of the law” means being dependent upon correctly performing all the actions required within the law, and trusting the law for necessary sacred knowledge, relationship with divinity, and salvation.  Curses may be broken through commitment, expiration, and the operations of faith; thus, we see Ruth of Moab, an ancestor of Jesus Christ, becoming accepted as a covenant-partner first through marriage, then through Naomi, and again through Boaz (see the Book of Ruth).  In this a curse was broken (Deuteronomy 23:  3-4, King James Version (KJV):  3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:  4 Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.)  Believers who enroll as members of a congregation are given opportunity to “break the curse.”  Members agree to cooperate with and obey those who have been appointed as leaders, supervisors and fellow-workers.  Unspoken and unwritten terms may include agreement to avoid having firearms, quarreling, and committing criminal acts and physical violence on church grounds.  The peculiar agreement for church membership shared among some congregations is no less a legal obligation than that for a credit card, and may include participation in meeting the financial needs of the group.  In the same way, ones household must make payments to meet the demands of those supplying goods and services, the congregation must have a reliable and steady cash flow to respond to its various creditors.  Many church groups now employ mechanisms and secular rules for association that have been used widely among businesses, schools, and government agencies.  With this in view, an assembly may conduct some form of background check, and is not required to accept every candidate for membership.  Consider again the Scriptures and the presentation below:

Hebrews 7:  14-19, King James Version (KJV):  14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.  15 And it is yet far more evident:  for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,  16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.  17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.  18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.  19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Malachi 3:  9-11, KJV:  9 Ye are cursed with a curse:  for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.  10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.  11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

John 8:  34-36, KJV:  34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.  35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever:  but the Son abideth ever.  36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Daisy” (Level 4 with 3,301 points, a member since April 20, 2011) posted the following:

 

If Jesus came to break all curses, then..?

Why do Pastors say a curse will fall upon us if we don’t give our tithe? Please answer, I don’t understand this…

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.  And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.  So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse:  for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.  And the law is not of faith:  but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:  for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:  That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.  (Galatians 3:  7-14, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Christ A Curse? (01/25/2016); Christ Receives the Tithes? (08/04/2015); Some Points on Tithing (03/19/2015); The Curse of Black Skin? (02/05/2015); A Curse Removed (12/26/2013); Intercession (12/27/2013)

 

“Daisy”, through operations of the Holy Spirit, blood and truth from the cross are flowing despite time and space to here and now.  The death of Jesus Christ upon the cross did not totally eliminate or remove sin as an influence from the earth.  A new divine provision was established that is crucial to atonement, forgiveness, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification, yet, did not automatically annul all curses, disobedience, and transgression.  The many curses from GOD inflicted upon Israel even included condemnation of the Aaronic priesthood as a continuing line from the time of Eli (with his sons, Hophni and Phinehas) and Samuel the Prophet.  Similarly, because those from the mob that demanded Jesus be crucified also agreed his blood should be upon themselves and their future generations, the divine provision for a remnant has been established, that does not automatically extend to every one.

Many of the “curses” described in the Bible are negative conditions in contrast to blessings that result from violation of “covenant law” that includes what we call the Ten Commandments, commandments to observe peculiar ceremonies, offerings, and observances as well as laws regarding diet, food, health and personal relationships.  The 12 tribes of Jacob and the mixed multitude of Gentiles who left Egypt with Moses all agreed to the terms for continuing as a people of GOD when they heard the law proclaimed by Jehovah at Mt. Sinai.  Realizing the covenant agreement would have to be repeated many times in order to maintain the commitment of the people, Moses commanded that, after crossing the Jordan River to enter the Promised Land, the blessings and curses of the law should be proclaimed from the top of two opposing mountains, Ebal and Gerizim.

Believers, today, often fail to recognize that their own membership within a congregation of believers is “on condition,” has been through their own word, and is a formal agreement and “signed pledge” that also may detail their accountability, specific duties, and necessary responsibilities.  (At first, children only have place in the agreement through their parents.)  The ceremonies of the church such as baptism, confession and confirmation are to establish ones spiritual commitment, while the bond of love and unity within the congregation must come through such practical tasks as decorating the altar, food distribution, fund raising, making repairs, and group study.  The basis for agreement is different, and turns upon principles for association, and necessary discipline, not upon ceremonial law.  Correctly understood, violation of ones “oath” is cause for denial of status as a “member in good standing,” dismissal, and excommunication.  Consider how this is stated in the language of the Bible:

(1.)  Deuteronomy 11:  26-29, King James Version (KJV):  26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;  27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:  28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.  29 And it shall come to pass, when the LORD thy God hath brought thee in unto the land whither thou goest to possess it, that thou shalt put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal.

(2.)  1st Samuel 3:  10-14, KJV:  10 And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant heareth.  11 And the LORD said to Samuel, Behold, I will do a thing in Israel, at which both the ears of every one that heareth it shall tingle.  12 In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house:  when I begin, I will also make an end.  13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.  14 And therefore I have sworn unto the house of Eli, that the iniquity of Eli’s house shall not be purged with sacrifice nor offering for ever.

(3.)  James 4:  17, KJV:  17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

There is far more to be said, understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, it should be shared, (4.) Romans 3:  20-22, KJV:  20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight:  for by the law is the knowledge of sin.  21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;  22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:  for there is no difference:)  I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Baptism, enforcement of church discipline, fellowship, and salvation as the cooperation of flesh and spirit are themes, today.  Given the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus as a complete and finished work on behalf of mankind, many mistakenly think that divine law has been completely rescinded, and there are no longer any sacred practices or rules that should be obeyed among believers.  Often, those who hold such a view are relying upon their unseen character, individuality, and inner being to be acceptable to GOD, and therefore, deny that others in the flesh like themselves may hold them accountable for what they do and say within the church.  It remains, there is a need for vigilance.  While clergy and fellow worshipers may have no authority either to approve or eternally condemn the spirit nature of others, every believer is required to maintain a clear separation from unrighteousness.  The flock must be protected from counterfeit believers and “wolves in sheep’s clothing.”  Consider again the following from the Bible, and the points appearing below:  1st Samuel 16:  7, King James Version (KJV):  7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him:  for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.  Also, James 1:  26-27, KJV:  26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.  27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Spirit Of All” (Level 5 with 9,701 points, a member since February 16, 2014) posted the following:

Can Christians deny someone baptism?

I was about to be baptized last night but I was refused. It was cold out so I had vodka to warm me up and got slightly drunk. People noticed and I was rebuked for doing so. How is this fair?

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.  And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:  In his humiliation his judgment was taken away:  and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.  And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?  Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.  And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:  and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?  And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.  And he commanded the chariot to stand still:  and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.  (Acts 8:  29-38, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Baptism, Then Communion (09/02/2015); Going to Church Before Baptism? (05/05/2015); Partially Baptized? (01/22/2015);  Before Getting Baptized? (11/28/2013); The Rich in Divine Relationship? (11/29/2013); Denying Baptism to Others (11/04/2013); Relating to GOD? (11/05/2013)

“Spirit Of All”, to truly understand why you were refused baptism, you would have to ask, How was this (my behavior)  godly?  On the basis of their attitude, behavior, and conduct, a person may be denied fellowship (i.e., continuing association; intimate and personal relationship) and recognition as a Christian believer as well as membership, ordination to serve in leadership roles, and such privileges as burial in consecrated ground or sharing the Lord’s Supper.  Because the church brings together diverse people having different levels of sacred knowledge, maturity, and preparation, discipline (i.e., training; restraint) and divine order must be maintained for management of the broad range of emotional, psychological and spiritual challenges every believer is required to face.  Consider again the instruction to the church from the holy writings:

(1.)  1st Corinthians 6:  9-11, King James Version (KJV):  9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived:  neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  11 And such were some of you:  but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

(2.)  2nd Timothy 3:  1-5, KJV:  1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,  3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:  from such turn away.

(3.)  1st Corinthians 14:  26, KJV:  26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation.  Let all things be done unto edifying.

(4.)  1st Corinthians 14:  40, KJV:  40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  1st Corinthians 5:  9-13, KJV:  9 I wrote unto you in a epistle not to company with fornicators:  10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.  11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13 But them that are without, God judgeth.  Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Capital punishment, covenant, judgment and stoning are topics, today.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Den Mäktiga Vita Dr” (Level 4 with 3,037 points, a member since November 01, 2013) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians feel that stoning people to death in the OT was a good way to punish them? 

I guess some people can’t understand civilized rules.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  On Christians Executing Judgment (06/06/2014)—(6.)  Rightly understood, judgment among mankind in the earth is to reveal judgment among those in heaven and throughout the universe of GOD.  With this in view, human judgment is always only a warning that pertains to ones eternal life, not their physical life.  Moreover, judgment is to continue divine creation and life, rather than end creation and terminate life.  Many confuse serving in judgment with having authority over others.  Where this occurs, presumption also appears (i.e., taking authority to oneself without permission; replacing GOD, usurping, or stealing divine power, so to speak).  The judgment carried out by Christian believers upon the earth begins as a divine operation using those in flesh against others in flesh, advances to an operation using those having an endowment of spirit within flesh against others yet in flesh, and finally becomes a divine operation by those who are immortal and incorruptible.  Absolute innocence, perfection, purity and ability to carry out violence are not always required for those having responsibility in judgment so much as balance, compassion, humility, impartiality, independence, neutrality, perspective (we also say, distance, separation), and truth along with ability to discern intent, needs and purposes addressed through the law with correct knowledge, and respect for all under the law.  See Exodus 12:  23, Exodus 32:  25-33, Ezra 7:  26, Romans 1:  16-32, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.  But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.  Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.  And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.  And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.  And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.  And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:  all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.  And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.  (Numbers 15:  29-36, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Culture of Judgment? (03/20/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014); Recognizing Divine Wrath (02/26/2014); In Earthen Vessels (02/27/2014); Bible Justice? (01/26/2014); GOD Inhabits Praise (01/27/2014); Can Someone Be Happy? (12/10/2013); Asked to Help? (12/11/2013); A GOD of Love? (05/07/2013); Commanding the Storm? (05/08/2013)

 

“Den Mäktiga Vita Dr”, where one hopes to speak correctly and intelligently regarding Christian beliefs, there are many, many points to consider pertaining to judgment and justice such as the following:

(1.)  Death by stoning was used to terminate those who were a clear threat to survival of a community in covenant with GOD.  Simple expulsion and rejection from the community meant their crimes and offenses could be repeated elsewhere, the offender might return seeking vengeance, and memories or recall of the offender might have a continuing negative influence.

(2.)  The entire community is accountable for carrying out the death sentence, and no single individual may be blamed or held to be at fault.  Damage by the offender is against every member of the community.  It is the mercy of judgment that only one stone may be cast by any single individual.  It is the combined weight of the community against the offender that results in their decease; and the person who casts the missile that is fatal and final is impartially decided.

(3.)  Unlike murder, where the killer(s) seek to hide their identity, avoid being known and seen, and are careful to escape punishment, the death sentence is carried out openly and in public following the hearing of evidence that may be mostly eye-witness testimony.  Words and a verbal response become “hard evidence” on the basis of character, personal integrity, and the manifesting of ones spirit content.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Believers today are to understand that being in relationship with GOD as a covenant people is a matter of cosmic and eternal significance, and is not a casual, private, or simple thing.  Given that covenant nations are instruments in divine process, offenses and transgressions by covenant people are disruptions of divine order throughout the earth, the heaven, and the entire universe.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith, meekness, and readiness to receive that same promise of the Father poured out at Pentecost upon the early church.

But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.  (Matthew 12:  7, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Points are shared, today, on blasphemy against the GODhead, spiritual discernment, and the rules of sola scriptura and justification by faith.  No one having the Holy Spirit will blaspheme the Father or the Son; and there also appears to be an unwritten rule that a person must contain an endowment of the Holy Spirit to correctly acknowledge and recognize the Holy Spirit as he operates through, and resides within born-again believers, and the holy writings.  None may acknowledge Jesus as Lord without the Spirit; and blasphemy against the Spirit may occur only from those who do not have the Spirit of Christ.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  Blasphemy Against the GODhead (05/06/2014)—(5.)  The fullness of Spirit is word with action; thus we may say, the Scriptures are an incarnation of the Spirit.  For many, the rule of sola scriptura is cancelled and overruled by the principle of justification by faith whereby otherwise impossible operations of the imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD, the Holy Ghost, are allowed.  In their understanding, manifestations of the Spirit (e.g., healings, tongues, visions), prophecy, and supernatural phenomena directed by GOD may occur at any time, and in any place; and are not to be despised or dismissed.  However, rightly understood, the holy writings describe patterns, precepts, and principles for divine action along with the necessary frameworks for recognition of eternal purpose; and the Scriptures do not detail, foretell, or predict the specific actions of believers and their adversaries.  The Scriptures are a “body” and form that makes the active presence of the Spirit detectable and known within events, objects, and persons.

(6.)  The ministry carried out by Jesus of Nazareth conformed to the standards contained in the holy writings both as law, and as prophecy.  Jesus operated acknowledging the customs and traditions among the Jews, however, he also exercised authority and power that was clearly supernatural.  Throughout the Scriptures, miracles and supernatural events usually appear as indicators that a message or proclamation is authentic, has a divine origin, is genuinely from GOD, and is therefore certain of fulfillment.  Jesus did not demonstrate, explain, or teach the method and process for the signs and wonders that were displayed; and the proper emphasis was to be upon the doctrine from GOD, not any “strange” or surrounding events.  Thus, the acceptable and correct responses by the multitude were to be meekness (willingness to learn from GOD), praise, thanksgiving, and worship.

(7.)  In line with what it means to discern and recognize spirit matter in events, objects and persons, here is a difficult thought to consider, that nonetheless may be helpful:  Jesus cautioned those who disrespectfully accused him to develop and apply spiritual discernment.  Usually, we speak of forgiveness among mankind, as a device to continue and restore trust.  We have no conversation of forgiveness among the persons of the GODhead, as though they would ever be in conflict, or offend one another.  Regarding divine judgment, forgiveness pertains to offenses by created beings and living creatures against one another, against the spheres for their existence (we say, their environment), and transgressions of divine law.  Atonement must be made using blood for all offenses against the law.  The Son may forgive personal insults against himself, and against the Father as aspects of reconciliation and continuous process within relationships acknowledging divine love.  Included are such features as acceptance, benevolence, correction, forbearance, longsuffering, mercy, and wisdom.  The Father also may forgive denials, invective and verbal abuse against himself, and against the Son on the same basis.  The Holy Spirit does not engage created beings and living creatures through independent, interpersonal relationships as do the Father and the Son.  The Holy Spirit serves as the primary agent and representative of Jesus Christ as well as envoy of the Father.  Thus, opposition to the Spirit that may be accounted as directed against the Father or the Son, and may be accounted as merely “misplaced”, does not have the same standing in judgment as does a “personal” and complete break with the Spirit.  For it is the Spirit that establishes connection and union within the GODhead, and that must be apprehended for awareness of ones own existence and the active presence of divinity.  Consider again John 16:  12-16 & 25-27, Matthew 24: 24, Romans 8:  1-8 & 26-27 and 2nd Peter 1:  16-21, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?  Ye have said, It is vain to serve God:  and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another:  and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.  (Malachi 3:  13-18, KJV)

 

There is a lot more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  For example (8.)  Love of divinity is a form of self-affirmation, esteem, and respect for oneself.  Made in the image of GOD, mankind’s capacity to project and respond to the self as an object is the foundation for all human communication, exchange, introspection, and social interaction.  Saying this another way:  It is the active presence of GOD in awareness that makes possible the use of comparison and contrast among created beings and living creatures whereby we realize that we are like, yet, separate from the sphere of our existence, and from one another.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith, and the substance of divinity within you.

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed:  and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.  (1st Corinthians 12:  3, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Focus, today, is upon conversion and coming to Jesus as shown in the experience of Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles.  Also, there is more on when advice/rules should be obeyed as law.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “rachel m” (Level 3 with 2,498 points, a member since March 18, 2007) posted the following:

 

Was Jesus a Rabbi? if so, then he broke all his own rules.?

i cant understand how Jesus became so popular. i DO NOT mean to be disrespectful but why Jesus??? there were many just like him at the same time so what was so special about him??

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  When Is A Law The LAW? (03/25/2014)—The operations of sin influence created  beings and living creatures to despise and reject godliness in all its forms.  During his ministry upon the earth, Jesus contended against formalism (i.e., exaggerated and strict adherence to customs, traditions and practices as though their observance will satisfy all aspects of divine law).  The Savior revealed that formalism is a source of confusion, error, and sin no less than idolatry that centers in worship of the law, rather than the divine law giver.  The law may become an instrument of death, and a shield to transgression where emotion, fear, and emphasis upon obedience to law are primary aspects of focus and belief.  A saving relationship with GOD, who is a spirit, may only be achieved by application of imparted, indwelling spirit matter—ones inward law.  A highly developed legal apparatus was in place that blinded men to the spirit substance of the law.  In addition to commandments, ordinances, and statutes that we immediately recognize as “the law,” the holy writings also document rulings from the system of judges who were appointed to resolve conflicts and disputes along with the pronouncements and verdicts from GOD that identify and condemn sin.  The Scriptures also provide advice and counsel that have come forth from GOD that, therefore, has been acknowledged and valued as having the same force and power as divine law.  These added treasures from GOD appear in the form of instruction, parables (we say, object lessons), precepts, principles, prophecies, warnings, and wisdom.  Consider Exodus 18:  13-26, Leviticus 18:  3-5, Deuteronomy 1:  13-17, Deuteronomy 4:  1-20, Psalms 111:  10, Proverbs 1:  7, Proverbs 9:  10, Proverbs 21:  30, Matthew 13:  33-35, 2nd Timothy 3: 16-17 and 2nd Peter 1:  19, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:  for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:  for they are foolishness unto him:  neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1st Corinthians 2:  9-14, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Faith Given By GOD (03/13/2014); Miracles Are From GOD (03/14/2014); The Benefit of Grace (03/19/2013); Magical Resurrection? (03/20/2013); Given the Cloud of Witnesses (11/29/2012); A Golden Ticket? (11/30/2012); And This Was Good News (12/01/2012); A Need to Fear? (12/02/2012); The Slave to Law and Sin Made Free (11/16/2012); Lawful Divorce (11/17/2012)

 

“rachel m”, here are a few points you might want to consider before you just “give up on it” altogether:

(1.)  The Apostle Paul stands out for expressing feelings similar to yours when he first began to examine the “Jesus phenomena.”  As a dedicated and much respected scholar of Jewish law and culture, Saul of Tarsus, volunteered to serve as an officer of the Sanhedrin Court.  In effect, the Pharisee became “the Lord, High Executioner,” officially commissioned to destroy the early church.  He was given authority to offer bribes, kick down doors, take names, make arrests, torture, and preside over public executions by stoning.

(2.)  Saul had his own personal experience of Christ.  At first it came by hearing others preach, and proclaim the doctrines and teachings endorsed by Jesus.  He became impressed by the confidence, certainty, and conviction among those who were his victims.  At the same time, Saul saw gentleness, goodness, and the same spiritual power appearing among the Lord’s disciples that had been reported as shown by Jesus.  There is no report of Saul having been in any of the gatherings where Jesus healed and preached before the Lord’s crucifixion.  Yet, the stoning of a deacon, Stephen, the first martyr of the church, allowed Saul an experience within his own living spirit as if he had been physically present at the death of Jesus.

(3.)  Finally, as he was traveling to Damascus, Saul had a direct experience of Christ.  He was overwhelmed by what he heard and saw; and for three days remained blind.  Saul was himself as if dead for three days; and a disciple was sent to heal and restore him.  After instruction, he chose to honor and serve Jesus, first by accepting baptism (death of ones inborn spirit nature, rebirth having a new spirit nature from GOD), then by sharing his testimony, by personally protecting the church of Jesus, and by spreading the Gospel in places where it might not otherwise be heard.

There is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, thoroughly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  All non-believers go through the same overall process that Paul experienced.  Certainly, the details of a believer’s testimony and witness that proclaims their encounter with Christ will vary from person to person.  Nonetheless, the spiritual process of GOD is fixed, immutable, and has not changed.  By what they share and show, the disciples of Jesus (i.e., ordinary people in flesh and blood) prepare those who will finally come to Christ to have their own clear experience of his presence in their lives.)  Stay alert, for where you truly want answers from GOD, more are on the way.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended:  but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.  (Philippians 3:  13-14, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC