Posts Tagged ‘spanking’

Today, focus is upon a believer’s recovery from harsh parenting they endured during childhood.  It is correct to teach small children that their disobedience, disrespect, and rejection of parental authority imposes hardship and shame upon their own caretakers and protectors.  Even so, parents may not rely only upon violence in the home to establish honor, order, and respect within their little ones.  Parenting techniques of denying privileges and those using physical punishment both should be avoided when not properly balanced with demonstrations of acceptable responses, explanations, guidance, and step-by-step instruction.  Thus, rightly understood, judgment of ones parents is safely done only as a prerogative of GOD:  A child may not judge their parent as worthy of heaven or not either on the basis of bad treatment (spanking), or good treatment (that may in fact be no more to the child than bribes, influence, license, or inordinate affection).  Where children maliciously accuse and condemn their own parents, their sin actually is against GOD, and not against their caretakers.  When looking back, many are confused and disappointed because their prayers—that the character and nature of their parents or others be changed, or that they be rescued and saved from difficult situations—did not seem to be heard and answered.  Such may fail to discern and recognize that the response of GOD, instead, was to lend them greater determination, patience, resilience, and strength to endure.  In the plan of GOD, babies and minor children are to develop within a fixed and stable family structure that has some flexibility, yet, perseveres in maintaining specific meanings, order and values for various attitudes, behaviors, and conduct.  Before small children master using adult logic and rational thinking, physical punishment to admonish and warn them may be needed for their nourishment and protection, and are not the same as beating and striking them that merely display anger, displeasure, frustration, and hatred.  More than this, cursing, threats and verbal abuse in no way express the care and concern of GOD as revealed by Jesus suffering and dying upon the cross.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Cassandra Mills” (Level 2 with 462 points, a member since March 28, 2012) posted the following:


Fundamentalist Christian book that teaches to “beat the bitter root out of your child”?

Ok so here’s the deal. I had a pretty bizarre childhood, my parents were super, super strict fundamentalist Christians (I have nothing at all against Christianity btw–just the craziness involved in fundamentalism) and abusive to an extent. I’d rather post this somewhere else besides yahoo, but I’m hoping a non crazy person will read this and be able to help me 🙂 Basically I’m just trying to piece some parts of my childhood together and see what exactly my parents were believing and what books they were reading (they deny stuff like this so I can’t ask them)

Anyway, this didn’t happen to me, but to my sister. She said that at some point (she was probably around 9-10) she was sort of rebellious (probably just spirited like any kid) and my mom just spanked her for a long time insisting on getting “the bitter root out of her”, which she (my mom) thought was the root cause of my sister’s “rebellion”. I’m pretty sure she didn’t come up with that phrase/idea on her own and I’m almost sure I read an article about some Christian parenting book that taught this??? So if you know please let me know!

Another phrase I remember from one of her books was “you’re not disciplining your child, you’re discipling your child” So if you know what book that’s from please let me know too. Again, I just really want to know what crazy things they were filling their heads with; maybe it will help me understand why they acted like they did.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.  For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.  Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.  And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.  If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:  shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?  For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.  Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous:  nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.  (Hebrews 12:  1-11, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Discipline and The Cross?
(06/16/2016); GOD’s Answer to Injustice? (04/28/2016); The Forms of Prophecy? (04/26/2016); Divine Love Seen As Hate? (01/29/2015); Comfort? (09/06/2014); We Become Comforters? (07/19/2014); Inseparables? (07/15/2014); On Christians Being Inclusive? (07/16/2014)


“Cassandra”, for Christian believers, comfort is an aspect of prophecy, and is received through operations of the Holy Spirit.  Thus, the comfort provided by GOD to those who have endured abuse and neglect in their childhood has been experienced by many mature Christian believers as (1) our dying in Christ upon the cross, (2) arriving at ones own adult perspective, (3) ability to correctly discern and recognize spiritual errors in the actions and beliefs demonstrated by others, (4) realization of the multiple instances where the active presence of GOD has been part of their own experience, and (5) the shift from self-centered expressions of anger, bitterness, or regret to displaying balance, insight, maturity, and soundness of spirit.  

The goal of the Christian believer is not to forget or ignore affliction and hardships they may have suffered.  More than they desire “get back,” “pay back” and revenge, believers should want to be free of anger, fear, grudges, and hate; and this is accomplished by responding to forgiveness and love as spirit aspects of divine person.  Christian believers become “born again” through water baptism (death and burial of ones inborn spirit, rebirth from divine DNA, so to speak); and receive deposits of spirit substance from the makeup of divinity such as faith, holiness, joy, longsuffering, meekness, wisdom and wrath against sin.  Even so, all believers also must “grow up again” meeting the same life challenges as others living upon the earth.  Being a “new creation” from Christ, the disciples and followers of Jesus must acquire sacred knowledge and continue in fellowship with other believers to establish godly living routines that maintain sacred practices (we say, sacraments).

There is far more that should be carefully said, thoughtfully examined, and spiritually understood.  (For example, it is written:  But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice:  for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance (Matthew 9: 13, King James Version (KJV) ).  At first, minor children are established in covenant with exalted divinity through their obedience, respect, and reverence of their caretakers and parents (not their own affection and fondness).  Thus, circumcision and divine covenant are to be understood as a “life condition” that a child may be born into like poverty, royalty, or wealth.  Where parents use spanking and punishment to train their children they must do so understanding that there must be balance and restraint.  In the same way an edible cake can not be made using only the bitter ingredient of flour, the single ingredient of butter, or only the overwhelming sweetness of sugar, in training a child, correction is more important than punishment; and after a certain point in the child’s growth punishment is not to be used at all.)  Even so, I am sure this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Divine correction, love, and punishment are topics, today.  For many Christian believers, correct sacred knowledge regarding divine judgment has been provided in the home through their experience as children.  There must be discipline (i.e., training) of both awareness and self-will that will establish conscience, because the operations of sin repeatedly are directed against and through the gateways of awareness and self-will.  When parenting, benefits to ones child include admonition, chastisement, scolding, and spanking as aspects of vital instruction.  To quickly and permanently clarify the danger, destruction, and pain that result to themselves and others from disobedience, disrespect, and defiance of authority by the child, affection, logic and reason are applied in balance with corporal, physical and visceral experiences.  The child is to be held accountable for consequences and effects from their own attitudes, behavior and conduct; and should be helped to understand that their parents and others are not to feel the hurt that properly is their own and no one else’s.  Consider again the following from the Bible, and the comments appearing below:  Job 5:  17-18, King James Version (KJV):  17 Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth:  therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:  18 For he maketh sore, and bindeth up:  he woundeth, and his hands make whole.  Also,  1st Corinthians 11:  31-32, KJV:  31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.  Proverbs 9:  7-9, KJV:  7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame:  and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.  8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee:  rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.  9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser:  teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.  Revelation 3:  18-20, KJV:  18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.  19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:  be zealous therefore, and repent.  20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock:  if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.  The writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Silver” (Level 1 with 63 points, a member since October 20, 2015) posted the following:


What if God didn’t punish us for our sins?

I am Christian. I always read in the bible that God punishes those He loves whenever they sin. I realize that it right that God does it because it disciplines them but what happen if you sin and God didn’t punish us does that mean He doesn’t Love us anymore?


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:  But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.  If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:  on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.  But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.  Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:  and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?  And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.  (1st Peter 4:  12-19, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Why Punish Innocence? :  (05/22/2015); The Death Penalty for Sins? (11/30/2014); A Dispensation To Benefit (12/01/2014); Expulsion from Eden (05/05/2014); Blasphemy Against the GODhead (05/06/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014)


“Silver”, GOD is a spirit who has put forth all that exists; assigns value to all (we say, judges; resolves conflict through application of sacred law); and who maintains the universe through routine operations that are diverse, interactive, and mechanical as well as through sacred processes that are intimate, organic and personal.  Understanding all the facets and manifestations of divine love therefore requires that a believer apply all the inseparable aspects of the imparted, indwelling Spirit they contain following water  baptism (i.e., death of ones inborn spirit; burial; rebirth from divine DNA, so to speak).  Those who are “born again” are called the children of GOD, for they receive features from the character and nature of divinity such as faith, holiness, longsuffering, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  For such believers, GOD is held to be the Father in a peculiar relationship where the active presence of Deity is continuous.  The born-again believer must “grow up again” (we say, mature, “become perfected”) by meeting specific life challenges for those living upon the earth.  Through Jesus Christ, Son of the Highest, the Son of Man, mankind undergoes permanent change to establish eternal life that includes accountability, acknowledgment (we say, worship), commitment, correction, duty, and exclusive devotion to GOD.  Here are a few points from the holy writings that speak to the place of punishment in the new life:

(1.)   Proverbs 23:  12-14, King James Version (KJV):  12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.  13 Withhold not correction from the child:  for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.  14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

(2.)  Isaiah 13:  10-12, KJV:  10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light:  the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.  11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.  12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

(3.)  Isaiah 48:  8-12, KJV:  8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened:  for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.  9 For my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.  10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.  11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it:  for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.  12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

There are many other verses that should be carefully considered, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Hebrews 12:  4-8, KJV:  4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.  5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:  6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.  7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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