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A depiction of the Great White Throne Judgment (see image reference below)

 

Today, reply is on the listing of sins in the Bible that carry a death penalty, the final annihilation of sinners, and the elimination of sin accomplished as the second death. Death is now an aspect of the life process for men on the earth, and occurs as a condition of mortality. The second death is a divine response to permanently remove sin and sinners from the Creation of GOD. In accordance with sacred law observed among the Jews, Jesus Christ was accused and condemned of blasphemy by the High Priest of the Temple and the Sanhedrin court; Jesus was to be punished by those from the community who would gather to execute a penalty of stoning. Jesus violated no Roman law, yet, to preserve the integrity of Roman rule, the Governor, Pontius Pilate, insisted that the duty and privilege of imposing a death penalty belonged only to the secular Roman government, and the death of Jesus would have to be in the form of crucifixion. One of the fighters in the “Yahoo! Answers” public forum on Religion and Spirituality who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile is shared) posted the following:

 

In the Bible, which offenses does it say shall be punished with death?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20: 4-6, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: The Solutions From GOD (04/03/2019); The Elimination of Death? (05/13/2018); Incurring “The Second Death” (04/02/2018); Temporal and Eternal Judgment (02/15/2017); Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); Reflections on Existence (12/19/2016); The Death Penalty? (10/08/2015); The Death Penalty for Sins? (11/30/2014); A Dispensation To Benefit (12/01/2014)

 

Anonymous”, the holy writings do not present a list of all the sins (transgressions of divine law) whereby offenders incur a death penalty so much as it establishes consciousness of the many principles believers are to acknowledge for continuing in relationship with divinity. Sinners who turn to GOD through Jesus Christ often are surprised to find that completing their mortality by aging, becoming mature, and dying will continue as a life condition for mankind governed by patterns and sequences ruled by natural law, and includes having to acknowledge carnal, material, and social consequences to their own life choices and decisions. As part of their transformation from developing to mature Christians they will take on the sacred knowledge that enables believers to avoid the final penalty for sin proclaimed through final judgment and carried out by other sacred events that is called the second death. Consider the following that uses language from the Bible:

1. Ezekiel 18: 4, King James Version (KJV): 4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

2. Galatians 5: 19-25, KJV: 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

3. Revelation 21: 7-8, KJV: 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, 4. Revelation 20: 11-15, KJV:  11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.

 

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Today, annihilation (the second death), David and Goliath, stoning, and the plagues of Egypt are in view.  Only through judgment that displays divine grace, mercy, and righteousness can there be the completeness of divine revelation.  Because so many of us first heard an account of David and Goliath as a bedtime story, or something to amuse and entertain us, many continue to dismiss and undervalue important the aspects of divine revelation that appear.  In addition to judgment against the enemies of GOD’s peculiar people, that there is judgment against GOD’s people themselves is not to be overlooked.  Goliath was one of the last remaining descendants from the seven tribes who had lived in Canaan as the covenant people of GOD prior to Israel leaving Egypt.  For their transgression of sacred covenant, his entire culture and race were to have been removed from the Promised Land.  Thus, he may be thought of as part of “Israel’s unfinished business,” and his destruction a fulfillment of divine mandate.  A fighter in the “Yahoo! Answers” forum using the ID “Racket” (Level 7 with 25,403 points, a member since November 14, 2015) posted the following:

 

David betrayed Goliath !!! Why didn’t he use a sword instead of throwing a stone? Anyone can win wrestling if he use catapult?

Is this not a cheating of a God-chosen?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength:  and ye would not.  But ye said, No; for we will flee upon horses; therefore shall ye flee:  and, We will ride upon the swift; therefore shall they that pursue you be swift.  One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall ye flee:  till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on an hill.  And therefore will the LORD wait, that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you:  for the LORD is a God of judgment:  blessed are all they that wait for him.  For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem:  thou shalt weep no more:  he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.  And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:  And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.  (Isaiah 30:  15-21, King James Version (KJV): 

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Secular History, Sacred Revelation? (01/11/2018); GOD Protects the Faithful (12/19/2017); David, Goliath and GOD (05/26/2017); The Wisdom of Years? (10/31/2016); The Accounts of Giants (05/24/2016); Christ the Son of David? (06/12/2015); The Priesthood of Kings (10/17/2012); Childlike Faith (10/18/2012)

 

“Racket”, many disbelieve that GOD exists on the basis of their failure to recognize the real “presence” of divine judgment.  Mature Christians may describe the confrontation between David and Goliath as one expressing divine judgment, and wrath against sin that is an inseparable aspect of the divine fullness along with faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, righteousness, and wisdom.  What on surface is merely a contest or a “fair fight” between two proud, or reckless individuals on a battlefield also must be acknowledged as a conflict between two nations, two different covenant relationships with GOD, and a sacred event that addresses divine promise, prophecy, and eternal purpose.  In the same way, sinners make too little of the judgment displayed against Egypt as 10 plagues, they also make too little of the judgment that came against the Philistines.

No longer should Goliath’s offense against Israel be understood as only having challenged, insulted and mocked the army of Israel.  Goliath blasphemed; denied glory to GOD, the Creator and King over Israel; and manifested himself as a living idol among the Philistines.  That only David was sensitive to this, or reacted as personally attacked can be discerned as an indication that the divine anointing by Samuel the Prophet, and the imparted Spirit of GOD already were operating within, and speaking out through David.

The rules of engagement and warfare center on conflicts for conquest, gaining territory, and expanding wealth.  Use of stoning as a sanction against sin comes into view as a provision that further binds a community through shared accountability, obedience to sacred law, and fundamental principles pertaining to divine sovereignty.  Mortality in mankind introduced through Adam must be completed and fulfilled.  Even so, divine provisions may include rebirth, resurrection, and new life.  In communal judgment, every member of the collective casts only a single stone.  The person who casts the stone that delivers the fatal blow may remain secret, and known only to GOD.  There can be no “fair fight” between a full grown, seasoned warrior and a teen-aged shepherd boy; however, as part of becoming mature on the earth, there must be a “fight of faith” for every believer.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  1st Samuel 17:  4-11, King James Version (KJV):  4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.  5 And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass.  6 And he had greaves of brass upon his legs, and a target of brass between his shoulders.  7 And the staff of his spear was like a weaver’s beam; and his spear’s head weighed six hundred shekels of iron:  and one bearing a shield went before him.  8 And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me.  9 If he be able to fight with me, and to kill me, then will we be your servants:  but if I prevail against him, and kill him, then shall ye be our servants, and serve us.  10 And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.  11 When Saul and all Israel heard those words of the Philistine, they were dismayed, and greatly afraid.

(2.)  1st Samuel 17:  32-37, KJV:  32 And David said to Saul, Let no man’s heart fail because of him; thy servant will go and fight with this Philistine.  33 And Saul said to David, Thou art not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him:  for thou art but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.  34 And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father’s sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:  35 And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered it out of his mouth:  and when he arose against me, I caught him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.  36 Thy servant slew both the lion and the bear:  and this uncircumcised Philistine shall be as one of them, seeing he hath defied the armies of the living God.  37 David said moreover, The LORD that delivered me out of the paw of the lion, and out of the paw of the bear, he will deliver me out of the hand of this Philistine. And Saul said unto David, Go, and the LORD be with thee.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended regarding the Spirit imparted from GOD through Jesus Christ.  (For example, (3.)  1st Samuel 17:  40-50, KJV:  40 And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd’s bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand:  and he drew near to the Philistine.  41 And the Philistine came on and drew near unto David; and the man that bare the shield went before him.  42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him:  for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.  43 And the Philistine said unto David, Am I a dog, that thou comest to me with staves? And the Philistine cursed David by his gods.  44 And the Philistine said to David, Come to me, and I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts of the field.  45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield:  but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.  46 This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.  47 And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear:  for the battle is the LORD’s, and he will give you into our hands.  48 And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came, and drew nigh to meet David, that David hastened, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.  49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.  50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, an account of Jesus challenged by the Pharisees and points are shared on the integrity of judgment and law.  The writer at “Yahoo! 7 Answers (Australia)” using the ID “becca” (Level 1 with 86 points, a member since January 09, 2017) posted the following:

 

In John 8:9 why did Jesus ask the woman “Where are they? Has no one condemned you?”?

Who’s He talking about and why would He ask if anyone has condemned her before He says that He doesn’t condemn her? I just don’t understand that part of the scripture. Also is there a website that breaks down scripture to make it easier to understand? I googled bible study sites but I didn’t really find anything helpful.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law:  that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight:  for by the law is the knowledge of sin.  But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;  Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:  for there is no difference:  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:  Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness:  that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.  (Romans 3:  19-26, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Law, Vengeance, and Punishment? (09/30/2016); American Culture and Law? (07/13/2015); His Authority in Judgment? (10/03/2014); Stoning in the OT? (06/07/2014); Suffering Circumcision? (06/08/2014); Bible Justice? (01/26/2014); GOD Inhabits Praise (01/27/2014)

 

“becca”, here are some points that have been helpful to many Christian believers:

(1.)  Jesus was in the holy place (i.e., the Temple) teaching a large crowd (“all the people”), and was interrupted by the Pharisees, who counted themselves the divinely appointed caretakers of the law from GOD.  Many had been educated to be teachers, scribes, lawyers, and those serving as judges.  The Pharisees acknowledged the law as delivered by angels and prophets (those under the influence of divinity), while the Sadducees insisted there were neither angels nor indwelling spirits.

(2.)  Following the trial that concluded in a death sentence against a woman caught committing adultery, the entire courtroom (that included the accusers, scribes, Pharisees, spectators, etc.) were going to the place for execution.  On behalf of the community and nation, each person was to cast a single stone both to wound and bury the offender.  With GOD, the offense of a single person could be accounted as the shared offense of everyone within the covenant; and where the offender was not immediately punished by the divine covenant partner, the entire nation might be afflicted.

(3.)  The Pharisees wanted to challenge and discredit Jesus in front of the two crowds.  They were convinced he had no knowledge of the legal process or formal training, and would respond on the basis of emotions, errors, and sentiment.  In fact, they were sure he would attack, condemn, and teach against the law.

(4.)  Jesus did not seek to reopen the case, argue that the woman was innocent, or insist she should be “given a second chance.”  He proclaimed a principle that should be acknowledged by all claiming to comprehend the law:  Only those completely and correctly in submission to the law—those having the righteousness in the law—are fit to carry out and execute the sentence of the law.  When the courtroom crowd dwindled, the woman was left standing before Jesus and the classroom crowd.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)  The law is a manifestation (appearance, embodiment) of divinity described as the heart, mind, and sovereign will of the Creator.  Therefore, in addition to authority, and more important than mere punishment, there should also be the clear expression of correction, forbearance, forgiveness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, mercy, eternal purpose, rebirth, recognition of repentance, wisdom, and wrath against sin.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Points are shared, today, on judgment, mercy, and Christian believers as a new creation.  Wrath against sin is an ongoing and permanent aspect of the divine makeup that is held in restraint, so to speak, through such further aspects of the eternal nature as compassion, empathy, forbearance, forgiveness, impartiality, and divine love.  The harsh aspects of divine judgment (i.e., punishment, death, separation from GOD, the second death) become conditional and optional, rather than inescapable, inevitable, and unavoidable.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “lio” (Level 1 with 1 point, a member since June 07, 2015) posted the following:

 

My Muslim friend from Somalia is devastated she can’t stone gay people in USA?

I’m a progressive liberal and i feel bad for her
why do we deprive her of practicing her culture

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:   Come, and let us return unto the LORD:  for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.  After two days will he revive us:  in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.  Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD:  his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.  O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.  Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth:  and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.  For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.  But they like men have transgressed the covenant:  there have they dealt treacherously against me.  (Hosea 6:  1-7, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Judgment Against Sodom? (04/10/2015); Human Law, Divine Favor? (03/23/2015); The American Covenant? (03/03/2015); Grace is Not Against Law (07/23/2014); Cruel and Offensive (07/24/2014); Separation of Church and State (07/04/2014); The Point of Wisdom? (07/05/2014)

 

“lio”, here are a number of points shared among Christian believers that may help you avoid error and spiritual confusion:

(1.)  American culture and law have responded to many of the most important disciplines, guidelines and principles that are aspects of Christian belief.  In particular, there is an emphasis upon mercy as an artifact of Judgment (i.e., to obtain divine mercy, there must be divine judgment), rather than Sacrifice to expiate and “pay for the removal” of sins from ones record from the Book of Life that is used in judgment.

(2.)  Christian belief acknowledges that, due to  the operations of sin (i.e., the transgression of divine law), all created beings and living creatures are equally in need of permanent changes, and transformation of their inner makeup (we say, life essence, spirit).  The Creator must provide aspects of divine content that allow believers to endure upon the earth as a new creation, because they are “born again” having divine substance.  Even so, such persons also must mature (we say, become ripe for harvest, become perfected) by meeting the same “growing pains” and life challenges that face all mankind.

(3.)  Important and inseparable aspects from the makeup of GOD that all Christian believers receive include faith, forbearance, forgiveness, holiness, humility, longsuffering, love, truth, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Born again believers must “grow up” again, acquiring sacred knowledge and continuing practices that set them apart for divine service (e.g., baptism, confession, giving, marriage, prayer).  The believer increasingly becomes complete, consistent, and stable to demonstrate all their anointing and gifts in proper exchange, harmony, interaction, and mutual support.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually taken into account.  (For example, (4.)  Believers are to direct their focus to such themes as eternal life; the proclamations, promises and prophecies from GOD; and preparing to receive the Savior at his coming to harvest all believers from the earth.  The damage and power from human errors, infirmities, and weaknesses do not magically disappear; yet, they must pale and shrink in the light that beams to us as the goodness, grace, and majesty of our Maker.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Today, some points are shared on the age of accountability, circumcision, and adult participation in covenant.  Also, there is more on judgment and stoning in the Old Testament.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “JT” (Level 3 with 1,411 points, a member since December 09, 2007) posted the following:

 

Is it child abuse to forcibly circumcise an unwilling teenager?

It recently happened to someone I know. The father was extremely adamant about having the boy (15) circumcised. They argued for weeks nonstop and the son tried to compromise with just a loose or partial cut, but the dad insisted on a complete circumcision that removed every bit of loose skin from the shaft. He was eventually snipped without any sort of anesthetics sometime last week. The boy is in agony, and the mother is very upset with his father as well.

Is this child abuse? I am horrified at what happened, but i also realize that it happens to infants all the time, and most people don’t seem to care. At what age do you think a boy should be able to refuse such an operation against a parent(s) wishes?

Btw I am against infant circumcision.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  Stoning in the OT? (06/07/2014)—(5.)  The duty and privilege of serving in judgment goes far beyond what most of us comprehend; and we are again cautioned not to lean upon our own understanding.  Stoning pertains to collective responsibility, social contract (i.e., agreement, mutual acceptance), and unity.  It is an error to say stoning was “uncivilized”.  Stoning in obedience to demands of covenant with GOD may be understood as no less rational than the  political behavior from Greek democracy of casting ones ballot using either a black or white stone; and without careful examination, stoning should not be dismissed as a civilized and intelligently chosen tool in social justice any more than use of the simple sling stone should be banned and mocked as an effective weapon for defense and warfare.  Stoning was doubly effective by burying offenders (from dust thou art, unto dust thou shalt return) in fulfillment of the divine word, at the same time raising a heap of memorial over them that would caution and warn the living.  Consider this:  As children, many of us are angered and feel put upon by parental demands that we faithfully carry out the chores of removing trash and garbage from the home.  Most parents do not submit a formal written request in triplicate, justify themselves and their demands, or offer such terms for their child’s obedience as “maybe,” “some times,” and “whenever you feel like it.”  Parents do not typically explain that leftover food and unwanted material draw insects, rodents, and other disease carriers into the home.  Should the child become sick, they will miss school, play and other activity with their friends—or even cause their friends to become sick also.  Should the parents be forced to miss days from work because of illness, the family would not receive money needed for medicine, groceries, and by not making payment might lose their home, their beds and their places to sleep!  By their obedience children are able to obtain various benefits that are not explained to them in detail.  Similarly, at first, covenant believers are not given a detailed explanation of the benefits that come by fellowship with GOD; yet, their needs are met through simple obedience.  All the consequences and damages from disobedience and sin are not detailed for created beings and living creatures.  Thus, death may be understood as a token that describes a broad range of  irreversible ill effects and losses that come by defiance of divine law, ignorance, lying, selfishness, ungodliness, and willfulness.  See Revelation 21:  6-8, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.  Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.  Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.  For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:  He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.  Love ye therefore the stranger:  for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.  Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.  He is thy praise, and he is thy God, that hath done for thee these great and terrible things, which thine eyes have seen.  Thy fathers went down into Egypt with threescore and ten persons; and now the LORD thy God hath made thee as the stars of heaven for multitude.  (Deuteronomy 10:  14-22, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Why the Gospel for Our Children (05/13/2014); Changing Times and Laws? (05/14/2014); “Prayer Death”? (02/21/2014); The 2nd Prayer Death (02/22/2014); Kicked Out By Parents? (11/27/2013); Before Getting Baptized? (11/28/2013); Circumcision and Promise? (07/16/2013); The Bible and Stupid People (07/17/2013); Accomplished in Christ? (01/16/2013); The Need to Purify Heaven (01/17/2013)

 

“JT”, here are a few points that may make clear why circumcision is more than a mere cutting of ones flesh:

(1.)  Covenant relationships to GOD are established through such mechanisms as blood (we say, atonement, the circulation of life essence within flesh), utterance (we say, breath, promise, spirit, word), through sacrifice (exchange of gifts, offerings, enduring loss or suffering), and through sanctification (cleansing, purification, washing and being set apart exclusively for service to GOD).

(2.)  Because minor children lack discernment (ability to correctly use ones own spirit content from GOD to recognize the spirit matter (we say, divinity) in events, objects and other persons), parents must be accountable for all decisions regarding the spiritual development of little ones, their future inheritance, and their ongoing participation as members both of a family unit and part of a living household.

(3.)  The age of accountability for baptism, confirmation, and first communion of minors within many congregations and faith communities varies from 8 years old to 20.  The idea of “bar mitzvah” at 12 to 14 is also maintained wherein youth observe a rite of passage to adult participation in their community by presenting a spiritual dissertation in public to the full adult congregation.  Therein they “prove” themselves and their individual beliefs worthy of acceptance and respect.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Where circumcision pertains to priesthood and service within a community of believers, often decisions must be in recognition of duty, things that must be done (like it, don’t like it) for the good of others, despite the cost or loss one must personally endure.  The physical “pain and suffering” of circumcision is temporary, and lasts no longer than that of brain and heart surgery.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people.  Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.  And the heavens shall declare his righteousness:  for God is judge himself.  Selah.  (Psalms 50:  4-6, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Capital punishment, covenant, judgment and stoning are topics, today.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Den Mäktiga Vita Dr” (Level 4 with 3,037 points, a member since November 01, 2013) posted the following:

 

Why do Christians feel that stoning people to death in the OT was a good way to punish them? 

I guess some people can’t understand civilized rules.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  On Christians Executing Judgment (06/06/2014)—(6.)  Rightly understood, judgment among mankind in the earth is to reveal judgment among those in heaven and throughout the universe of GOD.  With this in view, human judgment is always only a warning that pertains to ones eternal life, not their physical life.  Moreover, judgment is to continue divine creation and life, rather than end creation and terminate life.  Many confuse serving in judgment with having authority over others.  Where this occurs, presumption also appears (i.e., taking authority to oneself without permission; replacing GOD, usurping, or stealing divine power, so to speak).  The judgment carried out by Christian believers upon the earth begins as a divine operation using those in flesh against others in flesh, advances to an operation using those having an endowment of spirit within flesh against others yet in flesh, and finally becomes a divine operation by those who are immortal and incorruptible.  Absolute innocence, perfection, purity and ability to carry out violence are not always required for those having responsibility in judgment so much as balance, compassion, humility, impartiality, independence, neutrality, perspective (we also say, distance, separation), and truth along with ability to discern intent, needs and purposes addressed through the law with correct knowledge, and respect for all under the law.  See Exodus 12:  23, Exodus 32:  25-33, Ezra 7:  26, Romans 1:  16-32, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.  But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.  Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.  And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.  And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.  And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.  And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:  all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.  And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.  (Numbers 15:  29-36, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Culture of Judgment? (03/20/2014); Beyond Punishment (03/21/2014); A Guarantee of Heaven? (03/22/2014); Recognizing Divine Wrath (02/26/2014); In Earthen Vessels (02/27/2014); Bible Justice? (01/26/2014); GOD Inhabits Praise (01/27/2014); Can Someone Be Happy? (12/10/2013); Asked to Help? (12/11/2013); A GOD of Love? (05/07/2013); Commanding the Storm? (05/08/2013)

 

“Den Mäktiga Vita Dr”, where one hopes to speak correctly and intelligently regarding Christian beliefs, there are many, many points to consider pertaining to judgment and justice such as the following:

(1.)  Death by stoning was used to terminate those who were a clear threat to survival of a community in covenant with GOD.  Simple expulsion and rejection from the community meant their crimes and offenses could be repeated elsewhere, the offender might return seeking vengeance, and memories or recall of the offender might have a continuing negative influence.

(2.)  The entire community is accountable for carrying out the death sentence, and no single individual may be blamed or held to be at fault.  Damage by the offender is against every member of the community.  It is the mercy of judgment that only one stone may be cast by any single individual.  It is the combined weight of the community against the offender that results in their decease; and the person who casts the missile that is fatal and final is impartially decided.

(3.)  Unlike murder, where the killer(s) seek to hide their identity, avoid being known and seen, and are careful to escape punishment, the death sentence is carried out openly and in public following the hearing of evidence that may be mostly eye-witness testimony.  Words and a verbal response become “hard evidence” on the basis of character, personal integrity, and the manifesting of ones spirit content.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Believers today are to understand that being in relationship with GOD as a covenant people is a matter of cosmic and eternal significance, and is not a casual, private, or simple thing.  Given that covenant nations are instruments in divine process, offenses and transgressions by covenant people are disruptions of divine order throughout the earth, the heaven, and the entire universe.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith, meekness, and readiness to receive that same promise of the Father poured out at Pentecost upon the early church.

But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.  (Matthew 12:  7, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

Adoption through the Spirit, divinity and incarnation are topics, today.  Also, there is more on Jesus being scourged before the crucifixion.  A “Yahoo! Answers” fighter using the ID “In The Hearts Of Green Birds” (Level 7 with 28,945 points, a member since March 19, 2013) posted the following:

 

So.. me and Jesus are brothers? 

? John 20:17
…Jesus said, “..my Father and your Father, my God and your God.'”

~ If Jesus and I have the same Father, that means Jesus is my brother..
….do christians have any problems accepting that?

~ Notice how jesus said, “..my God and your God..”
(((And we know that God is One and Only)))

So, no way Jesus can be God as well..
and acknowledging that he has a God, means that he accepts being a servant of God.

 

THE BATTLE AXE:  Jesus Scourged (04/05/2014)—(7.)   As the divinely appointed institution having spiritual authority over the Jews, many members of the Sanhedrin were willing to dismiss the charges of extortion (threats to destroy the Temple), and insubordination.  However, like the High Priest Caiaphas, most were fully committed to the death of Jesus for the crime of blasphemy.  Their duty as caretakers of a sacred inheritance had become increasingly one of rigidly maintaining the customs, forms, rituals, and traditions of the earlier priesthood.  The ministry of Jesus centered in accomplishing permanent change by repentance; receipt, acknowledgment and application of spiritual gifts; and fulfillment of divine prophecy.  In keeping with the judgments, ordinances, and statutes from the covenant of Moses—as well as their goal to legitimate secular Jewish culture and history—Jesus was to be executed by stoning, rather than crucifixion.

(8.)  The Sanhedrin could only convince Pilate that Jesus had committed more than a minor infraction by charging the young rabbi with treason, and “delicately” implying existence of a global conspiracy that might also overwhelm (or include) the Governor.  Like Purim in the days of Babylon, the event took on the meaning of affirming and vindicating the existence of Jews everywhere within the empire.  By sending Jesus to Herod, Pilate thought to satisfy their concern.  Yet, this continued to show his intent to release Jesus.

(9.)  Persecution is a comprehensive effort by one religious group to destroy, undermine, and weaken the system of spiritual belief, lifestyle and practice held by others.  Persecution is rarely generated by atheists, nonbelievers, and those who are committed only to self-assertion, self-preservation and self-promotion.  While persecution begins as a tenet of some group’s belief, persecution always sees the application of civil law, political power, and violence against faith-based communities; always deceptively appears as aspects of popular culture, as a popular movement, as social activism, or as an independent collective expression and “the will of the people” while being government-fueled, government-funded, government-sponsored, and government-supported.  Atrocities such as genocide, holocaust, and torture are then committed under such banners as conflict resolution, constitutional and democratic rights, ethnic cleansing, law enforcement, purification, reparations, and the restoration of lawful boundaries and procedure.

(10.)  Like the execution of Jesus, the scourging of Jesus was not according to Jewish law and custom.  No more than a total of 40 lashes could be delivered under the laws given by GOD through Moses.  Along with divine wrath against sin there was to be a demonstration of divine compassion, grace, empathy, forgiveness, and mercy.  It became custom to deliver at most 39.  See Deuteronomy 25:  3, 2nd Samuel 7:  13-14, Isaiah 53:  1-12, Psalms 119:  157-161, Matthew 5:  10-12 and 5:  43-45, John 5:  1-18, Acts 13:  50, Acts 22:  1-16 and 1st Peter 2:  19-25, KJV.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  (Romans 8:  5-9, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  A Personal Relationship? (04/03/2014); GOD Everywhere? (04/04/2014); Those Who Hear GOD (01/21/2014); Spirit Gives Birth to Spirit (01/22/2014); Worship Wear? (01/23/2014); Able to Become Gods? (01/11/2014); Why Christians Pray for Others (01/12/2014); The Spirit by Measure (09/22/2012); A Man in Heaven? (09/23/2012); Aliens? (09/24/2012)

 

“In The Hearts Of Green Birds”, here are a few points necessary to avoid “human error” and spiritual confusion:

(1.)  The place and status of believers as sons and daughters within the “family of GOD” is established through operations of an imparted, indwelling Spirit from GOD, and so we speak of the adoption of the Holy Spirit.

(2.)  GOD is a spirit whom we acknowledge and speak of as having authority, awareness, personness, purpose, and will.  Because GOD is not made of material particles and physical matter (e.g., fog, mist, smoke, vapor), we say, GOD is boundless, formless, immortal, invisible, unchanging, and without physical limits. 

(3.)  GOD uses many devices and mechanisms to make divinity known (we say, reveal himself) to the finite created beings and living creatures that have sentience (consciousness).  Incarnation (appearing in flesh) as Jesus Christ has been one tool of GOD used among mankind.

(4.)  The Holy Spirit is an aspect of all that exists as the being of GOD (we say, the GODhead).  The substance and content of Almighty GOD (we say, the Father) is the same as that for the Holy Spirit, and for the Incarnate Son.  Matter that is made entirely of spirit must come into understanding.  Included are faith, holiness, righteousness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

I am sure you won’t have any problem accepting that there is a lot more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (5.)   Your brotherhood with Jesus depends on your having received a measure of the same Spirit that cooperated in the creation of heaven and earth, was breathed into Adam, and continues to maintain divine order as a universe.  As if one beloved by GOD, you are now to exist as an incarnation and manifestation of the divine.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to the measure of divine faith that resides in you.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.  (Romans 8:  14, KJV)

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC