Posts Tagged ‘teens’



Today, focus is on the account of David and Goliath that appears within the Bible as part of the full revelation of GOD.  While the precipitating events that resulted in the death of Goliath were little more than name-calling and taunting Israel to challenge them in battle, Goliath represented and was the “stand-in” for all the Philistines, and was condemned as guilty before GOD their Maker and Judge as being idolatrous, lawless, rebellious, and unrepentant.  As a foreshadowing to the coming of Jesus Christ, the express will of GOD (we say, the law) was made incarnate, and appeared having material form as a shepherd boy, who served as an officer of the Divine Court (the Executioner).  That a teenager (David) would be used on a battle-field against a veteran soldier who had physical stature as a giant was to make clearly visible to Israel, the Philistines, and all mankind that GOD will impose judgment upon created beings and living creatures, and will operate as the highest authority, power, and sovereign-will present in human affairs.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Kumquat May” (Level 6 with 10,357 points, a member since April 17, 2012) posted the following:


The bible says thou shall not kill and turn the other cheek but when david brains Goliath dead with a rock suddenly he’s a great guy?

Goliath’s five year old daughter: “Mummy, mummy, when’s daddy coming home. I made a thing in school out of pasta that says world’s best dad!”

Mrs Goliath: “Sit down, my poor daughter, I have terrible news. Daddy won’t be coming home. He was murdered at work today. Some short man called David threw a rock at his temple and he died having a seizure in the dirt. You’ll never see Daddy again, and now we no income it’s prostitution for me and slavery for you, if David’s army don’t rape and kill us before that happens”

Goliath’s five year old daughter: ” Noooooo! But won’t the Lord punish him, Mum, he’s against that sort of thing? It’s one of the commandments”

Mrs Goliath: “No dear, not this time. I’ve already heard he’s mind controlling one of his zombie writers to put it in his book about how great the man who murdered your father was”


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And Jonathan said to the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over unto the garrison of these uncircumcised:  it may be that the LORD will work for us:  for there is no restraint to the LORD to save by many or by few.  And his armourbearer said unto him, Do all that is in thine heart:  turn thee; behold, I am with thee according to thy heart.  Then said Jonathan, Behold, we will pass over unto these men, and we will discover ourselves unto them.  If they say thus unto us, Tarry until we come to you; then we will stand still in our place, and will not go up unto them.  But if they say thus, Come up unto us; then we will go up:  for the LORD hath delivered them into our hand:  and this shall be a sign unto us.  And both of them discovered themselves unto the garrison of the Philistines:  and the Philistines said, Behold, the Hebrews come forth out of the holes where they had hid themselves.  And the men of the garrison answered Jonathan and his armourbearer, and said, Come up to us, and we will shew you a thing. And Jonathan said unto his armourbearer, Come up after me:  for the LORD hath delivered them into the hand of Israel.  And Jonathan climbed up upon his hands and upon his feet, and his armourbearer after him:  and they fell before Jonathan; and his armourbearer slew after him.  (1st Samuel 14:  6-13, King James Version, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); Judgment, Peace and Warfare? (03/26/2017); Teach Me To Pray (03/21/2017); Carrying Out Divine Law? (03/20/2017); Restoring the Divine Presence? (03/09/2017); The Wisdom of Years? (10/31/2016); Kingdom and One-world Empire (09/08/2016); The Accounts of Giants (05/24/2016); A Note On Spirit Warfare (01/06/2016); Why So Much Murder? (01/12/2013); Confusion 2013 (01/13/2013)


“Kumquat May”, in the account of David and Goliath, GOD is the Judge, and David is a legitimate officer of the divine court, the Executioner.  Among mature Christian believers the account of David and Goliath is received as part of the full revelation and “self-disclosure” whereby the active presence who is GOD is made knowable, known, and “visible” to created beings and living creatures.  The Bible displays the operations of GOD upon the earth from a divine perspective—that is, using thousands of events, within thousands of lives, over the course of thousands of years.  Taken from its context, spiritual confusion surrounds that and many other accounts.  Often “David and Goliath” has been presented as merely a story or adventure tale to amuse and entertain, as questionable secular history from the Middle East, and as a peculiar form of communication using diverse literary and poetic devices (e.g., allegory, epic, hyperbole, metaphor, symbolism).  Dominated by their appetite, emotion, sensation and mental functions (we say, the flesh) awareness and self-will directs a listener or reader to focus primarily on elements such as the heroism, weakness, vulnerability, and youth of David, or the arrogance, cruelty, prowess and size of Goliath.  In effect, mockers, scoffers, sinners and unbelievers remain blind, and fail to see the actions and operations of the account’s most important figure, GOD.  They would have to be “born again” in order to clearly discern, recognize, and properly respond to the account as imparting spirit content from the makeup of GOD (such as faith, holiness, hope, longsuffering, wisdom, wrath against sin).  Using their own endowment of life essence from GOD (we also say, breath, spirit, word), the listener/reader as a new creation will experience the account as demonstrating divine integrity, righteousness in covenant relationship, the fulfillment of promise and performance of duty, and the inarguable authority, prerogative and privilege of the Creator that may appear as deliverance, judgment, salvation and victory.  Consider the following from the Bible:

(1.)  1st Samuel 17:  33-37, King James Version (KJV):  33 And Saul said to David, Thou art not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him:  for thou art but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.  34 And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father’s sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:  35 And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered it out of his mouth:  and when he arose against me, I caught him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.  36 Thy servant slew both the lion and the bear:  and this uncircumcised Philistine shall be as one of them, seeing he hath defied the armies of the living God.  37 David said moreover, The LORD that delivered me out of the paw of the lion, and out of the paw of the bear, he will deliver me out of the hand of this Philistine. And Saul said unto David, Go, and the LORD be with thee.

(2.)  1st Samuel 17:  45-48, KJV:  45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield:  but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.  46 This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.  47 And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear:  for the battle is the LORD’s, and he will give you into our hands.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  2nd Chronicles 20:  15-18, KJV:  15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God’s.  16 To morrow go ye down against them:  behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel.  17 Ye shall not need to fight in this battle:  set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem:  fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them:  for the LORD will be with you.  18 And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground:  and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Washington, DC


Harmony among the many covenants established by GOD with mankind are the topic, today.  Also, there is more on circumcision as a covenant duty.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Carina” (Level 1 with 97 points, a member since June 8, 2014) posted the following:


Similarity between Abraham and Jesus through the covenants they made? 

I understood that Abraham and Moses similarity, but i still wanna to know more about these three covenants similarity. Please answer me as fast as possible~


THE BATTLE AXE:  Suffering Circumcision? (06/08/2014)—(5.)  Covenant pertains to the transformation of Creation, of mankind, and of the living universe.  Circumcision in ones flesh is no true threat to either infants or teens becoming fully mature, experiencing emotional, mental and physical health, or being established having inner peace.  More than this, circumcision is neither an outcome nor a cause for anti-social behavior, a warped personality, weak character, or self-destructiveness.  While there are those who use circumcision to amplify fear and uncertainty among youth, and who seek to control the sexual aggressiveness of teens by intimidation, circumcision as a demonstration of commitment to covenant with GOD has never been intended as a device for birth control, continuing virginity, prevention of sexually transmitted diseases, or a deterrent to sexual behaviors that may indicate imbalance within ones spirit content such as exhibitionism, excessive masturbation, premarital sex, and the reckless fathering of unwanted children.  Divine purposes must come into view that center in identifying a peculiar people marked as sanctified before GOD in flesh as well as in spirit.  See Exodus 19:  4-6, Deuteronomy 14:  1-2, Deuteronomy 26:  17-19, 1st Corinthians 7:  18-19, Titus 2:  11-14 and 1st Peter 2:  6-10, KJV.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:  it is the gift of God:  Not of works, lest any man should boast.  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.  Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;  That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:  But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.  For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;  Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;  And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:  And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.  For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.  Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;  And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;  In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:  In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.  (Ephesians 2:  8-22, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Jesus and the Pharisees (07/14/2013); How Could Angels Fall? (07/15/2013); A Second Adam? (03/25/2013); GOD Hiding in Plain Sight (03/26/2013); Before Abraham Was… (03/14/2013); Vows and Covenants? (12/17/2012); The Firstborn, Higher than Kings? (12/18/2012); According to the Eternal Purpose (11/20/2012); Henceforth, Of This Fruit (11/21/2012)


“Carina”, for Christian believers the key to viewing the many covenants of GOD with mankind is to focus upon their continuity, not their similarity.  One “takes up” where another “leaves off”, so to speak; and full knowledge of the various covenants is intended only for those of the priesthood.  Christian believers are all called to be priests and kings.  Thus, here are a few points believers all should be aware of:

(1.)  The first “covenant” was received by Adam in the form of a proclamation made to the serpent within the Garden of Eden.  The male and female (recognized as a single person by GOD) responded to what they overheard (we say, appropriated the words of GOD) as certain of fulfillment.  Thereby, the dimensions of inheritance, divine promise and prophecy were added to that of sacred law (i.e., the expressed will of GOD).

(2.)  The patriarch Abraham represents continuation of divine intent that finite mankind exist as a companion to eternal GOD.  Abraham experienced intimate relationship with GOD based upon obedience, promise, respect, and trust, and is called the Friend of GOD.  The earlier dimensions of covenant relationship appear as broadened by the revelation to Abraham (GOD making divinity known and recognizable to created beings and living creatures), and certification of covenant by solemn oath.

(3.)  The patriarch Moses continues in a the role of Adam as father to all mankind by giving birth to a nation that will serve in place of and sanctify (i.e., cleanse, set apart for exclusive use by GOD) humanity by living in accordance with divine law.  Those who left Egypt were to make the active presence of GOD in heaven known, understood and visible upon the earth.  Both the nation of Israel and its written law were to be incarnations (appearances of GOD through material form).

For those who truly need a complete answer, there is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Jesus of Nazareth appearing as prophet, as Messiah, and as the Son of GOD was both the fulfillment or summation of all earlier covenants as well as the mediator of a new covenant relationship.  In addition to atonement and relief from sin through applications of sacred blood, eternal life is established for mankind by fresh deposits of divine content (we say, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Prophecy, the Spirit of Truth) that is to bear fruit (result in) human immortality and incorruption.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith and readiness to share from GOD.

But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children’s children;  To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.  The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.  (Psalm 103:  17-19, KJV)

Washington, DC

Today, some points are shared on the age of accountability, circumcision, and adult participation in covenant.  Also, there is more on judgment and stoning in the Old Testament.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “JT” (Level 3 with 1,411 points, a member since December 09, 2007) posted the following:


Is it child abuse to forcibly circumcise an unwilling teenager?

It recently happened to someone I know. The father was extremely adamant about having the boy (15) circumcised. They argued for weeks nonstop and the son tried to compromise with just a loose or partial cut, but the dad insisted on a complete circumcision that removed every bit of loose skin from the shaft. He was eventually snipped without any sort of anesthetics sometime last week. The boy is in agony, and the mother is very upset with his father as well.

Is this child abuse? I am horrified at what happened, but i also realize that it happens to infants all the time, and most people don’t seem to care. At what age do you think a boy should be able to refuse such an operation against a parent(s) wishes?

Btw I am against infant circumcision.


THE BATTLE AXE:  Stoning in the OT? (06/07/2014)—(5.)  The duty and privilege of serving in judgment goes far beyond what most of us comprehend; and we are again cautioned not to lean upon our own understanding.  Stoning pertains to collective responsibility, social contract (i.e., agreement, mutual acceptance), and unity.  It is an error to say stoning was “uncivilized”.  Stoning in obedience to demands of covenant with GOD may be understood as no less rational than the  political behavior from Greek democracy of casting ones ballot using either a black or white stone; and without careful examination, stoning should not be dismissed as a civilized and intelligently chosen tool in social justice any more than use of the simple sling stone should be banned and mocked as an effective weapon for defense and warfare.  Stoning was doubly effective by burying offenders (from dust thou art, unto dust thou shalt return) in fulfillment of the divine word, at the same time raising a heap of memorial over them that would caution and warn the living.  Consider this:  As children, many of us are angered and feel put upon by parental demands that we faithfully carry out the chores of removing trash and garbage from the home.  Most parents do not submit a formal written request in triplicate, justify themselves and their demands, or offer such terms for their child’s obedience as “maybe,” “some times,” and “whenever you feel like it.”  Parents do not typically explain that leftover food and unwanted material draw insects, rodents, and other disease carriers into the home.  Should the child become sick, they will miss school, play and other activity with their friends—or even cause their friends to become sick also.  Should the parents be forced to miss days from work because of illness, the family would not receive money needed for medicine, groceries, and by not making payment might lose their home, their beds and their places to sleep!  By their obedience children are able to obtain various benefits that are not explained to them in detail.  Similarly, at first, covenant believers are not given a detailed explanation of the benefits that come by fellowship with GOD; yet, their needs are met through simple obedience.  All the consequences and damages from disobedience and sin are not detailed for created beings and living creatures.  Thus, death may be understood as a token that describes a broad range of  irreversible ill effects and losses that come by defiance of divine law, ignorance, lying, selfishness, ungodliness, and willfulness.  See Revelation 21:  6-8, KJV.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.  Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.  Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.  For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:  He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.  Love ye therefore the stranger:  for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.  Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.  He is thy praise, and he is thy God, that hath done for thee these great and terrible things, which thine eyes have seen.  Thy fathers went down into Egypt with threescore and ten persons; and now the LORD thy God hath made thee as the stars of heaven for multitude.  (Deuteronomy 10:  14-22, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Why the Gospel for Our Children (05/13/2014); Changing Times and Laws? (05/14/2014); “Prayer Death”? (02/21/2014); The 2nd Prayer Death (02/22/2014); Kicked Out By Parents? (11/27/2013); Before Getting Baptized? (11/28/2013); Circumcision and Promise? (07/16/2013); The Bible and Stupid People (07/17/2013); Accomplished in Christ? (01/16/2013); The Need to Purify Heaven (01/17/2013)


“JT”, here are a few points that may make clear why circumcision is more than a mere cutting of ones flesh:

(1.)  Covenant relationships to GOD are established through such mechanisms as blood (we say, atonement, the circulation of life essence within flesh), utterance (we say, breath, promise, spirit, word), through sacrifice (exchange of gifts, offerings, enduring loss or suffering), and through sanctification (cleansing, purification, washing and being set apart exclusively for service to GOD).

(2.)  Because minor children lack discernment (ability to correctly use ones own spirit content from GOD to recognize the spirit matter (we say, divinity) in events, objects and other persons), parents must be accountable for all decisions regarding the spiritual development of little ones, their future inheritance, and their ongoing participation as members both of a family unit and part of a living household.

(3.)  The age of accountability for baptism, confirmation, and first communion of minors within many congregations and faith communities varies from 8 years old to 20.  The idea of “bar mitzvah” at 12 to 14 is also maintained wherein youth observe a rite of passage to adult participation in their community by presenting a spiritual dissertation in public to the full adult congregation.  Therein they “prove” themselves and their individual beliefs worthy of acceptance and respect.

There is far more to be said, correctly understood, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Where circumcision pertains to priesthood and service within a community of believers, often decisions must be in recognition of duty, things that must be done (like it, don’t like it) for the good of others, despite the cost or loss one must personally endure.  The physical “pain and suffering” of circumcision is temporary, and lasts no longer than that of brain and heart surgery.).  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people.  Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.  And the heavens shall declare his righteousness:  for God is judge himself.  Selah.  (Psalms 50:  4-6, KJV)

Washington, DC

The duties of young believers are in view, today, along with more on apostolic succession.  The “Yahoo! Answers” writer who uses the ID “Miguel Carcamo” (Level 1 with 95 points, a member since July 22, 2013) posted the following:


Am I doing enough for jesus?

i am 16 yrs old I have gave my life to jesus and its been amazing, but as im learning more i ask myself if i am doing enough for jesus, Sometimes i feel guilty because i feel like i am not doing enough. I pray in the morning before anything, then after school i pray and give thanks, I later read 1 or 2 chapters of my bible. then pray before bed. please let me know if i should do more or add something.

Thank you .

~ Miguel


THE BATTLE AXE:  Succession (02/04/2014)—(4.)  The apostles were indispensable to the early church, not merely as those who had known Jesus personally, and had been taught directly by the Lord; not merely as those endowed with gifts from the holy Spirit to cast out unclean spirits, to heal, and perform miracles; nor merely as those who were free to travel as itinerant preachers baptizing and building new congregations, and expanding the new church.  The apostles all could authenticate the falling of the Holy Spirit, discern the full Gospel and doctrine from GOD; and identify genuine experiences of conversion, and new birth.  (5.)  Succession permits mankind to transcend death, and continue covenant through agents, heirs, representatives, and spokespersons (prophets).  Even so, in Scripture, sin is said to be the sting (or barb) of death.  Saying that another way:  It is sin that makes death an appendage (like ones hand or foot) that we accept and are comfortable with as part of our own being, rather than something foreign and strange.  Through sin, death becomes an aspect of ones full being that is inescapable.  Once sin enters and has penetrated a created being or living creature, death cannot be retracted or smoothly withdrawn.  Death becomes anchored and cannot be removed without damage, and rupture to sin’s living host.  Thus, the focus of apostolic succession is not merely that of attaining earthly authority, property, prosperity and wealth.  Believers must continue in the priesthood of Jesus Christ, and themselves demonstrate faith, obedience, purity, sacrifice, suffering, wisdom, wrath against sin, and the proper acceptance and denial of death.  (See Acts 15:  1-35, Acts 8:  1-25 and 1st Corinthians 15:  50-57, KJV.)


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  These things command and teach.  Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.  Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.  Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.  Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.  (1st Timothy 4:  11-16, KJV)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Unprofitable Servants? (01/19/2014); Going It Alone? (12/16/2013); On Being Good Stewards (12/17/2013); Kicked Out By Parents? (11/27/2013); Before Getting Baptized? (11/28/2013); On Being Merciful (09/01/2013); A Divine Trickster? (09/02/2013); Numberless (08/28/2013); Lost Without GOD? 06/26/2013); When Does Judgment Begin? (06/27/2013); Unexceptional Beginnings (11/22/2012); Believing Everything? (11/23/2012); Childlike Faith (10/18/2012); Why Did The Judges Fight? (10/19/2012)


Miguel, here are some points to consider about life as a Christian believer that you may find helpful in avoiding spiritual confusion:

(1.)  In Christ, the primary duty and responsibility for all young people is that they grow, and learn spiritually while encountering the same challenges and life experiences as all others upon the face of the earth.  Only while we are young, can our parents endure the hard work they must do to provide the materials, opportunities, and supports we need to continue in school, and begin our work careers.  Later, we do not have the freedom, and luxury to focus and learn in the same ways.  The many demands of our own jobs, our own developing relationships (such as dating, courtship, marriage, parenting), our own finances, our own health, often cut off our chances to further our own formal education and training.

(2.)  What’s “different” as the new life of a born-again believer is not their physical body, or the world around them as an environment for human existence.  Through water baptism, believers die to sin, and are reborn having divine DNA, so to speak.  What is “new” is their outlook on life, their awareness of possibilities established by GOD, their ability to recognize the active presence of GOD, and their willingness to practice and study the things given by GOD for salvation.

There is far more to be said, properly shared, and spiritually understood.  (For example, (3.)  Throughout their lives, many believers feel they are not giving enough financially to the cause of GOD, yet, they cannot beat GOD giving, so to speak.  Despite “thank you” being a simple phrase (like “I love you”) believers often feel great pressure not to repeat the words so much that they lose all meaning; and many are uncomfortable, because they feel they are not saying “thank you” enough to GOD, and are not doing and saying the things that declare “I love you” enough.  As a result many become uncertain and dissatisfied that their sins are totally erased.  Believers are to trust the word and not their own works.  They are to hear and rely upon the declaration of GOD in Jesus Christ, “I love you” (see John 3:  16, KJV).)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  But shun profane and vain babblings:  for they will increase unto more ungodliness.  (2nd Timothy 2:  15-16, KJV)

Washington, DC

Happy Thanksgiving!  Today, a few points are shared that can be helpful before one is baptized.  Also there is more on atheists, teens, and parenting.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers Malaysia” using the ID “JG” (Level 1 with 83 points, a member since October 16, 2012) posted the following originally asked at Yahoo Answers United States:

Does a person have to choose a denomination before getting baptized?

Can you be baptized and choose not to be a part of any specific Christian denomination? Or does being baptized in a church of a specific denomination mean you are choosing to be of that sect?

THE BATTLE AXE:  Kicked Out By Parents? (11/27/2013)—It will always be acceptable and correct for parents to establish discipline in the home (we used to say, provide home training) for their children—from feeding a newborn on a schedule that does not require walking the floor odd hours of the night and every time the baby cries, to refusing to breastfeed in every public setting.  The adults are to create and maintain boundaries, limits, and standards that will allow the child a sense of personal being and integrity as well as to acknowledge and respond to the human needs of their caretakers.  Yes, the early training of a child is by imposing a stronger will upon a less developed person; however, the child is not abused thereby, nor made an injured party, a sufferer, or a victim.  For the home also to nourish and prepare the parents for their encounters within the workplace, the marketplace, or even the privacy of their sexual sharing, there must be reasonable order and stability.  Minor children too must acquire skill as they are growing and learning to operate and fulfill ones duty despite their dislikes, likes, and preferences.  Children are to be a help and to provide emotional, psychological and spiritual relief for their parents through displays of enthusiasm, good cheer, kindness, humility, meekness, obedience, and zeal.  It remains that despite advancement of today’s social media and technology, development for teenagers continues to proceed by their asserting maturity without also affirming accountability, their operating without complete and correct information regarding the needs of others, and their risk taking without careful assessment and preparation to meet or address the consequences and outcomes of their actions.  Separation may seem a drastic remedy, at first, however, rightly understood and carried out with compassion, separation can be agreed upon as both the “best possible solution” and unavoidable.  (See Genesis  13:  1-18, Acts 15:  37-39 and 2nd Timothy 3:  1-5, KJV.)

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.  This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.  And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue:  whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.  And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him:  who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:  For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.  (Acts 18:  24-28, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Why Not One Bible? (11/02/2013); Origin of Baptism? (06/22/2013); Money-changers in the Temple? (06/23/2013); Church is Good? (06/15/2013); Feeling Loved By GOD? (06/16/2013); Church Mandatory? (05/06/2013); A GOD of Love? (05/07/2013); A Spirit Church? (04/04/2013); My Brother’s Keeper (04/05/2013); Attending Church? (11/12/2012); A Holy Kiss? (11/13/2012)

“JG”, here are a few points about baptism and becoming a Christian you should find useful:

(1.)  The thing that first draws us to Jesus Christ may be no more than curiosity such as drew Moses aside one day while he was going in from work.  He wanted to examine more closely something that had caught his eye, a flaming bush that gave off no smell or smoke, that when he had come closer, stopped and gazed on for a bit, continued to burn showing no ashes.  When Moses heard a voice speaking from the burning bush, he did not run away.  Instead, he was even more engaged, was sparked with questions, and desired to know and understand completely before he would walk away.  His intention, at first, was not to go aside to pray, to seek GOD, or to offer himself in service.  Even so, Moses prostrated himself in humility, having received, as it were, baptism by fire.  See Exodus 3:  1-14, KJV.

(2.)   Believers are to receive baptism as an experience wherein the same Spirit operates that served as agent in the creation of the earth, and the establishment of Adam as a living soul.  Baptism is a cosmic work that is not accomplished by human ceremonies, pageantry and rituals, nor by a believer’s intellect, imagination, and knowledge.  While the work of baptism is to purge (i.e., wash inside and out; clean through and through), and purify; baptism must also establish death, and rebirth whereby one acquires divine content (we say, divine DNA).  

(3.)  Through baptism believers receive fresh endowment of divine substance.  GOD is a spirit, and does not exist displaying carnal, material, and physical characteristics except by using peculiar divine operations.  The substance of GOD may be described as such inseparable aspects of divinity as faith, forgiveness, gratitude, holiness, joy, truthfulness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  The incarnation of GOD (i.e., appearance using material form) is accepted as having been through a burning bush as well as through the person of Jesus of Nazareth.

There is far more to be said, correctly shared, and spiritually understood.  For example, (4.)  Many denominations provide a church upon the earth for those upon the earth; and give less attention to being aware of sacred actions and divine presence.  A person desiring to become a member within a congregation and community of believers should respond to and trust only those who demonstrate correct, godly, and thorough knowledge of baptism and the many other elements of truth from GOD through Jesus Christ.  By “classes” offered before baptism, one is instructed and prepared for their own sacred transformation as well as given opportunity to determine whether a congregation may supply their personal needs for continued spiritual growth, learning, work and worship.  A pledge or membership agreement should not be entered into and sealed until after some “trial period” (for some, this is called “confirmation“).   A believer is to use the holy writings as the standard whereby one examines and tests the quality of what others may share.  After all, as what happened to Moses, baptism is a life-changing event, not just a tourist attraction, and more than simply social interaction.  Those born again are to learn, grow, and then perform service to GOD by their daily living that will lead others into right relationship with the Almighty.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.  Surely The Light of the World will soon shine forth.  Happy Hanukkah to all. 

Washington, DC

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