(08/09/2020) He Commanded Our Fathers

 

 

 

 

Today, reply is on how Jesus Christ has accomplished a saving relationship with those who were not yet conceived, born, or even imagined during his lifetime on the earth. Divinity communicates, exchanges, and interacts with mankind using the broad range of human social
associations including family, inheritance, tribe, dynasty, and nation.  It is written: John 17: 13-21, King James Version (KJV):  13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.  17 Sanctify them through thy truth:  thy word is truth.  18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:  that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” Religion & Spirituality who uses the ID “sdadsad” (Level 1 with 156 points) posted the following:

 

 

 

How did Jesus die for my sins if I wasn’t even born or existed when he was alive?

 

 

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW: O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears. And what one nation in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt? For thy people Israel didst thou make thine own people for ever; and thou, LORD, becamest their God.  Therefore now, LORD, let the thing that thou hast spoken concerning thy servant and concerning his house be established for ever, and do as thou hast said. Let it even be established, that thy name may be magnified for ever, saying, The LORD of hosts is the God of Israel, even a God to Israel:  and let the house of David thy servant be established before thee. For thou, O my God, hast told thy servant that thou wilt build him an house:  therefore thy servant hath found in his heart to pray before thee. And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness unto thy servant:  Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may be before thee for ever:  for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever. (1^st Chronicles 17:  20-27, KJV)

 

 

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Sons Of GOD? (07/19/2020); They Which Are Called (04/09/2020); Acknowledging Christ as Son (03/08/2020); Aspects Defining Human Life? (03/02/2020); Spirit Process and Substance (02/27/2020); Not Impossible With GOD (01/06/2020); From Purpose and Substance (12/27/2019)

 

 

 

“sdadsad”, here, we have to think and speak in terms of sacred proclamations, promises, prophecy, and the revelation from GOD. While the process of divine fullness (we say, divinity; the Godhead; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit) to establish existence and life for mankind has included multiple levels of natural and secular operations that display mechanical patterns and sequences, natural laws, carnal reason, and material substance, the universe is a product of divine self-expression through sacred law, divine order, supreme prerogative, eternal purpose, and the sovereign will of GOD.  The frameworks of time and space do not interfere with or limit divine fullness who may appear using human form and life process (we say the Incarnation as Jesus Christ), yet also appears and is manifest as Spirit without fixed form having the capacity of both measureless contraction and expansion. Long before their birth, a fetus becomes a child and a newborn within the understanding of a mother. The child becomes an object of her affection, a focus for her feelings,
thoughts and possibilities, an aspect of continuity for her heritage
and inheritance, and may even foster her prayers, sanctification, and
thanksgivings to GOD. Consider again the following that uses
language from the Bible, and a selection from the music ministry of
Steve Amerson:

 

(1.)  Psalms 78: 5-8, King James Version (KJV): 5 For he established a
testimony in Jacob, and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded
our fathers, that they should make them known to their children: 6
That the generation to come might know them, even the children
which should be born; who should arise and declare them to their children: 7 That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments: 8 And might not be as their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation; a generation that set not their heart aright, and whose spirit was not stedfast with God.

 

(2.)  1^st Chronicles 17: 16-18, KJV: 16 And David the king came and sat before the LORD, and said, Who am I, O LORD God, and what is mine house, that thou hast brought me hitherto? 17 And yet this was a small thing in thine eyes, O God; for thou hast also spoken of thy servant’s
house for a great while to come, and hast regarded me according to
the estate of a man of high degree, O LORD God.  18 What can David speak more to thee for the honour of thy servant? for thou knowest thy servant.

 

(3.)  Romans 9: 8-16, KJV: 8 That is, They which are the children of the
flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. 9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son. 10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the
younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

 

There is far more that should be said, correctly examined, and spiritually
apprehended. (For example, (4.) The Mind of Christ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5nRwGMFo2s.) Even so, I
trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your
faith.

 

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THE BLACK PHOENIX

Washington, DC

 

(03/04/2013) Our Need for a Son

     The divine device of fathers and sons is our topic, today; and there is more on the love of GOD.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Haley” (Level 1 with 91 points, a member since March 1, 2013) posted the following:


Why does god need a son?

i am very open to other religions ….but when it comes to Christianity this is a question i want to ask ….if god is so powerful why does he need a son….and if Jesus is gods son does that make him a god to…sorry i don’t know to much about Christianity..


THE BATTLE AXE:  The Love of GOD (03/03/2013)—We should not be disturbed that we do not understand everything in an instance and all-at-once.  There are things hidden and unexplained even among the Host of heaven.  Divine love is made visible to us all by such aspects of communion as compassion, forbearance, forgiveness, mercy, patience, and longsuffering.  As sons and daughters to GOD through Jesus Christ, believers are not commanded to despise or hate Satan.  As we mature, and are lead to understand the predicament that comes by sin, we recognize the extremity of all those who are lost, including those among the holy angels.  More than through friendship, marriage and relationships based upon mutual acceptance and commitment, understanding the love of GOD is acquired by growth through experiences of fulfilling spiritual duty.  One may be required to carry out and perform tasks pertaining to the will of GOD that absolutely must be completed within a fixed period without complaints, grumbling, ill-temper, and protest; without delay, hesitation and lingering; without detailed and full information regarding consequences, intent, purpose and value for ones actions as well as without regard to the various costs that may include energy, money, pleasure and time, that may result in damage, injury, personal loss and sacrifice, and that may also result in death, elimination and status as “obsolete.”  The importance of such elements as choice, preference, self-will, and beginner or volunteer status are canceled; nevertheless—like it, don’t like it—the duty must be fulfilled.  Such elements must appear as allegiance, commitment, conviction, dedication, dependability, devotion, faithfulness, loyalty, reliability, and trustworthiness.  In addition to such duties as preaching and proclaiming the Gospel, all believers in Jesus as their Redeemer and Savior are challenged to fulfill sacred duties that include confessing their faults, needs, sins and weaknesses; giving and sharing unselfishly; intercession on behalf of others; always speaking the truth; showing compassion and respect to all; living lives of repentance and preparation for the Advent of Christ; and praying without ceasing.  The specific tasks believers are assigned always fit with and support actions, and works by others and by GOD.  Thus, it is the interconnection, interdependence and harmony of our works that generate the awareness, cooperation, teamwork and unity we see in the peculiar association and fellowship known as “the body” and “the church.”  Those that are incapable of receiving the spirit substance that enables action, change and growth that displays the divine will are also incapable of receiving spirit content that establishes eternal life.


THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.  For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.  For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.  For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.  For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace:  the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.  (Isaiah 55:  7-12, King James Version)


THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Why A “Spokesperson”? (01/14/2013); No Contradictions? (01/15/2013); Son of Man (11/28/2012); Given the Cloud of Witnesses (11/29/2012); How Was GOD Know Before Jesus? (10/06/2012); Jesus King of Earth? (10/07/2012); Parental Duty? (10/08/2012)


     Haley, be encouraged as you consider the following:  GOD understands that mankind needs to communicate directly with himself in order to correctly receive place within the fullness of the universe.  The importance of a “son” of GOD is as great as the importance for a “son of man.”  Through human reproduction, various possibilities are established for finite and temporal mankind to be in continuing and productive existence, and to realize relationship with the eternal Creator.  Men are to understand that GOD is a spirit, and ordinarily has no form, shape or visible appearance.  More than this, divine existence, intent, operation and sacred purpose are not typically bounded and framed by the aspects for human mind supplied as time and space.

     GOD reveals himself to created beings and living creatures through various devices, mechanisms, and sacred processes.  Included are birth, covenant, creation, death, incarnation, inheritance, judgment, law, proclamation, promise, prophecy, rebirth, repentance, and sanctification.  The word of GOD also is spirit (we sometimes say “breath”); and operates as a distinct appearance of divine person.  The divine word is to be understood as making the will of GOD known, and must be recognized primarily by its effect and presence for, through and upon created beings and objects that may be carnal, material, social, or spirit.

     The promises of GOD to one man, who at some point must die and complete mortality, (e.g., Adam, Abraham, or David) are lawfully and properly carried over and fulfilled within the life of other men who are shaped in the same personness and values of their “father.”  Given that men may understand and perform duty as sons to complete and perpetuate earthly goals and standards given by their fathers, the device of a divine son is used to achieve divine aims and imperatives that include furthering the possibilities for the divine nature to reside within humanity.

     There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, the appearance of GOD incarnate (i.e., in flesh) as Jesus of Nazareth should be easy to accept as an emblem of the supreme authority, glory and majesty of GOD.  Thousands of years and human lives were used to prepare mankind for that event.  The holiness, power, and purity of GOD are not defiled or lessened through operations of divine prerogative and righteousness for the salvation of created beings and living creatures.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC