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The problems of knowing and not knowing GOD are the topic, today, along with more on having a relationship and not just knowledge.  A “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “DESMOND” (Level 1 with 100 points, a member since June 24, 2013) posted the following:

I think i’m lost without God?

THE BATTLE AXE:  A Relationship not Just Knowledge? (06/25/2013)—  (5)  The salvation we speak of is not an invisible, one-time, sacred event where GOD operates upon human awareness and then becomes distant and remote.  Salvation is a continuing consciousness of GOD whereby believers apply their own endowment of sacred substance in building, decision-making, forecasting, interaction, judgment and shared experience.  It is in this sense that one must “give to get,” and one can achieve nothing without making a total investment of oneself. 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.  For by it the elders obtained a good report.  Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.  By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.  By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him:  for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.  But without faith it is impossible to please him:  for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.  (Hebrews 11:  1-6, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  To Find A True Christian? (06/17/2013); Unseen Sin? (06/18/2013); Life Given By Knowledge? (04/03/2013); A Spirit Church? (04/04/2013); To See With New Eyes (11/06/2012); A Life Companion? (11/07/2012); Unanswered Prayers? (09/11/2011); When You Pray (09/12/2012)

DESMOND, here are some points to consider that are important to a full and correct understanding for Christian believers:

(1)  The problem of not knowing GOD results in created beings and living creatures operating in terms of imperfection (we say, immaturity) and their less developed nature.  Human potential includes ability to operate after an animal, or a divine nature.  By the one, aspects of the flesh dominate (e.g., appetite such as hunger, thirst, craving for sexual activity; sensation such as hearing, seeing, tasting, touching; mental operations such as desire, fantasy, imagination, recall, thought).  By the other, aspects of spirit control and establish being, person, purpose, relationship, and vision.

(2)  The problem of knowing GOD is that material, physical and social truth are not always upheld by ones spirit content.  Contradictions, disbelief, human error, and spiritual confusion repeatedly occur until operating in line with divinity becomes habitual, regular, and stable.  Those who are “born again” MUST grow up again; and encounter “growing pains” again.

(3)  For mankind, correctly realizing how to operate in a relationship to the Creator and Maker of the universe must be achieved using the materials of human experience.  Included are change, emotions, growth, knowledge, interaction, language, and work.  Nevertheless, there must be a transformation of human make-up.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example,  (4)  A “connect” must be in place whereby the Almighty may know or recognize his created ones as well as be known by them.  Through baptism (we say, rebirth having divine DNA), believers possess the imparted, indwelling Spirit of GOD made available through the ministry of Jesus Christ.  Thereafter, as Christians one must meet the challenges of life, and may seem to stray or wander.  However, these are as those who left Egypt and could not enter the Promised land for 40 years; or like the “lost sheep” of Israel.  GOD always knows where they are, and that they belong to him.)   Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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     Incarnation and knowing GOD before the appearance of Jesus in the earth are topics, today. Also, there is more answering “does GOD feel?” The “Yahoo! Answers” writer using the ID “Shawn” (Level 1 with 51 points, a member since October 3, 2012) posted the following:


Knowing God before JESUS?

were humans able to know God, or have a relationship with God before Jesus came to earth and died for us?

THE BATTLE AXE: Does GOD Feel? (10/05/2012)—The exalted and sovereign person of GOD does not display the individual traits of character and personality found in created beings and living creatures. Accordingly, GOD does not have a “ha-ha” sense of humor, does not become depressed, is not competitive, and does interact as a social being. Incarnate as the immortal person of Jesus, GOD continues to display the full range of human possibilities including the capacity for feelings of anguish, apprehension, expectation (i.e., hope) and uncertainty. Judgment that further reveals the righteousness of GOD also reveals the extent of damage to those who have been disobedient and wicked. The soul—that measure of divinity deposited within the living—anchors the heart and mind, thereby lending direction, focus and stability to the otherwise chaotic reality of temporal being. In addition to having lost their soul, those sent into the lake of fire have lost all standing as created beings or living creatures; and all their features of godly person no longer exist. Included are authority, awareness, compassion, completeness, depth, desire, eminence, feeling, flexibility, focus, imagination, integrity, knowledge, life, presence, purpose, self-will, sensation, substance, and thought. Divine substance (e.g., faith, holiness, righteousness) cannot be consumed in the lake of fire. However, created beings altered and warped by corruption, defilement and sin can be eradicated using this uncommon, holy fire, because their endowment of divine substance is deformed, perverted and polluted. The condemned go out of the presence of GOD and the saved as “things”, not as angels, humans or sacred beasts; and are incapable of further arousing divine concern and sympathy.

THE GOLDEN ARROW: God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. (Hebrews 1: 1-12, KJV)

THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Why Jesus Prayed (08/19/2012); The Prophets (02/24/2012); The One Unseen (02/03/2012); Before Creation? (02/02/2012); Girdle 15: Not Of The World (11/30/2011); GOD Commanded? (02/27/2011); Prophets? (10/28/2010)

      Many mature Christian believers understand that the fullness of Divine Person may be spoken of as “Godhead.” The identity and oneness of GOD is described in various ways that acknowledge different patterns whereby GOD makes himself known to the living. Thus, (1) GOD is a spirit; (2) the Son of GOD is eternal, has always existed, and has always operated as the agent whereby GOD is made “visible” in heaven and in earth; (3) the Holy Spirit is the unseen agent that appears as the power of GOD carrying out divine will, and that imparts form and substance to created beings and living creatures.

      Before the creation of the earth and all upon it, the Son of GOD existed as divinity within the spirit-being we speak of as “GOD;” and did not display dimension, mortality, and mutability. Later, GOD made himself known as Incarnate, having a body and form. The Son of Adam (Son of Man), Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, and the Christ appear in the earth as intercession by GOD to fulfill divine promises, execute sacred operations, and accomplish spiritual purposes. Included are covenant, revelation, judgment, rebirth, regeneration, repentance and resurrection.

      There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended. (For example, there has always been law that declares the will of Almighty GOD, and that shows “the mind of GOD” and divine intent. With law there also has been divine utterance (the spoken word from GOD) that has the force of law, the force of truth, and that serves as proclamation, promise, and prophecy.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.


THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC