Today, points are shared on the provisions for divine judgment, redemption, and salvation before GOD appeared in flesh as Jesus Christ. In the same way godly law existed before appearing as the covenant of Moses, divinity has appeared Incarnate through the living before Jesus Christ, and was manifest through hierarchy, judgment, law and divine order with diverse expressions of ownership, righteousness, sovereignty, sacred will, and inexhaustible virtue. The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “razzledazzleem” (Level 1 showing no points, a member since December 14, 2006) posted the following:
In the old testament, how does God decide who gets into heaven and who goes to hell?
Does it have anything to do with obeying things like the ten commandments or the noahide laws?
People didn’t have Jesus yet so how could a person have gotten saved back then?
THE GOLDEN ARROW: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. (2nd Peter 2: 1-10, KJV)
THE DOUBLE DAGGER: Revelation and The Cross (03/27/2016); Jesus Known As Word (01/17/2016); All Have Sinned? (07/29/2015); A Creator No Longer Needed? (02/19/2015); Salvation Before Christ? (06/24/2014); All Sins Are Equal? (06/25/2014); Son of Adam and of GOD? (06/16/2014); Focus of Believers? (06/17/2014)
“razzledazzleem”, just as the cross has reached forward to us, it has reached back to Adam; and the “plan of salvation has unfolded showing many different phases and stages. During Old Testament times “people had Jesus” as an inheritance from the first pair, the Patriarchs, and their own parents the same way we do, today, as an expectation, a promise, and a platform for continuing respect and trust in GOD. Mature Christian believers acknowledge, before the Creation that centers around mankind was put into place, Jesus Christ was eternally present within the fullness of divine person (we say, the GODhead). In the beginning, the Lord did not exist having human form and measurable dimension; however, he did exist. The distinction of Christ as the “Son of GOD,” co-existing with the Father and the Holy Spirit, is a simple, yet, profound device for revealing otherwise unseen aspects of divinity (i.e., making Deity knowable, known, and accessible through personal relationship). While alive, all created beings and living creatures have deposits of life essence (we say, breath, spirit content, word) from the makeup of GOD. The living may communicate, have contact, exchange, and interact with divinity through divine utterance that includes commandment, counsel, dreams, sacred law, praise, proclamations, promises, prophecy, and visions. What we generally call “divine order” and Incarnation are the appearances of GOD who is immortal, immutable, and incorruptible. Divine order embodies and expresses awareness, character, identity, operations, and substance that are eternal. Thus, when GOD provided the Ten Commandments to Israel, they were entered into covenant relationship with a “god of Judgment,” who has always assigned value, and determined duration for his own handiwork. Consider how some of this appears stated in the language of the Bible:
(1.) John 1: 1-5, King James Version (KJV): 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(2.) Colossians 1: 16-20, KJV: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
(3.) Ephesians 1: 3-7, KJV: 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
There is far more that could be said, must be carefully examined, and spiritually understood. (For example, (4.) Acts 13: 38-39, KJV: 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.) Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful. Be it unto you according to your faith.
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