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Today, reply is to the suggestion that Adam was imperfect long before their Fall by eating the forbidden fruit.  Mankind and sacred law have crystallized a divine concern and focus on sin.  However, in agreement with divine prerogative, eternal purpose, and sovereign will, possibilities for contradicting, contrary, negative and opposite states should never appear as natural and normal aspects of existence.  Through the law, the living are provided with admonitions, sanctions, and information about the benefits from obeying and penalties from disobeying the divine will.  Thus, before any act of disobedience was committed, the pair had been told that death would follow.  Error and possibilities for wrongdoing existed before divine law and complete sacred knowledge regarding sin began to be transmitted to mankind; and, initially, there was no eternal purpose that created beings and living creatures resist sin, or that divinity eliminate sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “NB” (Level 4 with 3,755 points, a member since December 15, 2012) posted the following:

 

Had Adam and Eve already been imperfect before they ate the forbidden fruit?

Somehow, a corrupt being entered the sacred garden of Eden, and he succeeded in persuading the first woman, Eve, that the fruit would bring her benefits. We have, then, that the mortal being (human) was created in the image and likeness of God, so it’s thought that as such Eve would not be deceived, nor would Adam believe what Eve said, for both would have the wisdom to realize that they were being deceived by the snake (Satan, roughly speaking).

We also have that, if this is true, then the snake was able to deceive the mind of one who was created by a perfect being (God), then his strength would be extraordinarily greater. Besides being able to enter the sacred garden, of course, knowing that God, considered omniscient, could see him there and have him expelled.

Was it all deliberate, then? Did God indirectly wanted Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit? There’s no reason in a place like the Paradise to have a tree that could not even be touched, with fruits that could not be eaten.

PS: english is not my mother language, sorry

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.  But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.  What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.  But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.  For I was alive without the law once:  but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.  And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.  For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.  Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.  Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.  (Romans 7:  5-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Operations of Sin (07/25/2017); Christian Beliefs About Sin (07/20/2017); On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Corruption of Ones Spirit? (05/14/2017); That GOD Is Immutable (05/04/2017); Did GOD Lose Control? (03/23/2017); Our Beginnings Were Perfect? (12/14/2015); The Origin of Sin? (07/31/2015); All Have Sinned? (07/29/2015)

 

“NB”, here are some points many mature Christian believers have considered:

Given that “perfection” pertains to the fullness of divinity who is the source of all that exists, perfection must be known through revelation.  Sin should not be understood as an outcome, or result of divine errors and lapses during the sacred operations of Creation.  Sin is an enigma to the living, for sin is no material or spirit thing created by GOD, yet, sin has direction, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of all divine law, promote non-existence, and restore the conditions of chaos and flux that were in place before the foundation of heaven and earth.  The corruption that results from sin first appeared among the holy angels (who are neither mortal nor immortal), and was introduced among mankind by one of the angels who, himself under an influence that is not divine, used deceit and guile.

Adam (the first pair) were finite, created beings who were to function and operate in agreement with multiple fixed conditions and limitations generated by the character, makeup, and substance of GOD.  The two lacked and were not given many things that would be supplied by their continuing as companions of divinity.  They were to endure and survive on the basis of love, respect and trust, more than a formal code of law; and this did not make them imperfect.  At their own creation, the angels received the full deposits of knowledge, understanding, and wisdom they would display throughout their existence as servants of divinity.  Mankind must acquire discernment, sacred knowledge, and wisdom gradually through discovery, growth and learning.  Mankind has been endowed with his own consciousness and self-will that permits independence, integrity, and levels of separation from divinity, yet, that also allow for continuous communication, exchange and interaction (we say, relationship).

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, at one place in the Bible, GOD says, I create “evil”.  The Creator is not speaking of sin.  Many are confused because they repeatedly seek to use secular language to consider divine processes and sacred themes.  They rely on carnal, material and social definitions for sin such as corruption (i.e., decay, disintegration, rot), defiance, disobedience, rebellion, unrighteousness, and wickedness.  Evil is the introduction of widespread, arbitrary, disruptive, unneeded and unwanted change; thus, evil is calamity, catastrophe, disaster, personal tragedy, and upheaval.  Among those inclined to error the more necessary understanding will be missed:  evil is the malicious denial of the immutable, unchanging sovereign will of GOD.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, reply is on the revelation of divinity, law, judgment, and sin.  A fighter suggests that Jesus Christ demonstrated deliverance from death may come by flaws, “loopholes,” and technicalities within the law.  Many believers are surprised to find that the full instruction of the Gospel, and its prophecies of GOD through Jesus Christ include descriptions of final judgment.  Before-unseen ideas are shared such as the first and second resurrection; the second death; and the destruction of Satan as well as the truths that the conduct of final tribunals will be without accusers, and all will be challenged only by the testimony of their own deeds found recorded in the Lamb’s book of life.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “Mortal Seeker” (Level 3 with 2,142 points, a member since April 14, 2012) posted the following:

 

Christians, why didn’t Jesus stone the woman caught in adultery, if he was God and God punishes the wicked when its time for judgment?

She was brought before Jesus for judgment, she was unquestionably guilty under the law, and there’s no indication that she had repented or was one of his followers before the judgment began.

Yet he let her go on the ground that her accusers were imperfect in their obedience to the law. Why would he do that if he was God and God punishes people when its time for judgment if they haven’t repented and joined Jesus?

Would Jesus likewise let us go on Judgment Day on the grounds that Satan the Accuser is imperfect in his obedience to the law?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (Romans 8:  2-10, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Mercy to the Merciless? (07/30/2017); Becoming Free From Sin (07/16/2017); GOD Indwells Divine Law (07/14/2017); Thoughts On The Commandments (06/27/2017); Forgiveness, Grace and Merit (06/22/2017); Determining What Is Sin (06/15/2017); A Ministry to Cripples? (03/14/2017)

 

“Mortal Seeker”, where we respond to accounts in the Scriptures on the basis of their carnal, material, secular, and social elements, we often fail to apprehend their fullness as revelations of divinity and as sacred knowledge.  We are to see that the guilty adulteress and the paralytic brought by his friends show oneness without sameness.  Just as on the cross, Jesus embodied Israel and all mankind, the Savior embodied sin and demonstrated its destruction by the Father and the Holy Spirit.  Mature Christians acknowledge that Jesus appeared as an Incarnation of the full GODhead, who revealed the character, substance and makeup of Deity, while also exposing the operations of sin as contrary to existence, life, eternal purpose, and sovereign will.  Going further, the Savior also revealed more regarding the nature and process both of divine judgment, and of sacred law.

In Creation, divinity is shown to operate as multiple persons existing as oneness without sameness.  GOD is seen in authority, power, purpose, and his role as the single source for all that exists.  In Salvation, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit focus on mankind, and divinity is to be known through such elements as atonement, forgiveness, longsuffering, and lovingkindness.  In Judgment, divinity is specially to be known through impartiality, mercy, righteousness, and thoroughness.  Consider again the following:

(1.)  Hosea 6:  4-6, King James Version (KJV):  4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.  5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth:  and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.  6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

(2.)  Matthew 9:  2-7, KJV:  2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed:  and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.  3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.  4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?  5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?  6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.  7 And he arose, and departed to his house.

(3.)  Jeremiah 33:  20-26, KJV:  20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;  21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.  22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured:  so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.  23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,  24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.  25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;  26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:  for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  2nd Peter 3:  10-15, KJV:  10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.  11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,  12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?  13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.  14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.  15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, the integrity of Christ as judge, and the beauty, good, and righteousness of divine judgment are in focus.  Divine judgment and salvation that see the granting of forgiveness, mercy, and release from sin already are occurring on a daily basis, and will soon be completed.  Through the operations of sin the living will lose the “image of GOD” and all resemblance to the character and makeup of Jesus Christ.  Both men and angels may become grotesque, indifferent, unrecognizable, and unresponsive as created beings and living creatures who have been fashioned by GOD and infused with spirit content from the makeup of Deity.  As surely as they no longer value or respect godliness, the Creation as the handiwork of GOD, divine law, eternal purpose, and sacred love, they despise correction, forgiveness and divine mercy.  Their final destruction, and the removal from existence of all corruption, decay and rot are to be acknowledged as acts of healing, justice, lovingkindness, and purification.  One of the many fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (India)” who uses the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information shared) posted the following:

 

Why was Jesus so cruel and inhumane that he approved of denying a man burning alive a single drop of water?

Luke 16:24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.  Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken, and left like a wilderness:  there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof.  When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off:  the women come, and set them on fire:  for it is a people of no understanding:  therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.  (Isaiah 27:  9-13, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Making and Keeping Justice? (05/25/2017); The Comfort Through Christ? (01/13/2017); Signs From The Dead? (01/15/2017); About Revelation not Punishment? (11/25/2016); Life Is GOD’s Intent (11/15/2016); About Judgment By GOD (08/29/2016); Hell and The Cross? (04/10/2016)

 

“Anonymous”, where sinners are blind to their own accountability needed to be in right relationship with divinity, they usually also fail to acknowledge their need for the protection and benefits supplied only by sacred law.   Mature Christian believers generally accept that the issues of cruelty, human error, and exaggerated pride among those having divine authority are put aside by the non-negotiable demands of sacred judgment that include balance, finality, impartiality, mercy, righteousness, and thoroughness.  As created beings and living creatures, the living, both in heaven and on the earth, do not consistently obey and respond to the demands of divine law.  The operations of sin oppose the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the platforms of divine order essential for the universe.  While sin appears as having no material or spirit substance, sin does display direction, effect, and presence.  Sin is the transgression of divine law that expresses the sovereign will (we also say, person, mind and heart) of GOD.

In the same way the dead do not praise GOD because they no longer have consciousness of divinity and existence, those under the influence of sin do not have self-will (willpower) that allows them to operate as agents and servants to GOD.  More than this, those dominated by sin increasingly become defiled, profane, and warped.  Sinners who lose their inborn and other freely-given endowments of spirit content from the makeup of GOD, become abominable, loathsome, and repulsive to divinity for ever.   Through the ministry of Jesus Christ, believers may receive the inseparable spirit content that includes faith, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.

Sinners are not separated from divinity by some form of “holy hostility”, meanness, or the bullying of defenseless and innocent creatures.  Temporal elements begin a widening of separation among the living that is necessary for the independence, integrity, and stability of their coherence.  The elements like backsliding, covetousness, deceit, enmity, passion, and  rebellion only result in eternal damnation where the divine provisions of forgiveness, mercy, and repentance have been repeatedly despised and rejected.  Consider again the following:

(1.)   Hebrews 10:  26-29, King James Version (KJV):  26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

(2.)  James 2:  8-13, KJV:  8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:  9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.  10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.  11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.  12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.  13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  Ezekiel 18:  20-24, KJV:  20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:  the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.  21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.  22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him:  in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.  23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God:  and not that he should return from his ways, and live?  24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned:  in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, focus is on admonition, covetousness, and the range of sacred operations required to oppose sin.  Correctly understood, the living, and the things of the material and natural world have been created to express and serve the will of the Creator, not merely their own self-will.  It should not be disturbing or surprising, then, that the immortal, invisible Creator of heaven and earth might use animals, angels, the sun, moon, and stars to communicate and intercede with his own finite created beings and living creatures.  What should be thought startling and strange is that the hearts and minds of many are blinded by the flesh and the world so that they can not receive the plain guidance, instruction, warnings and testimonies from the Bible, or shared by those endowed with faith through Jesus Christ.  In the account of Balaam, who was spoken to by an ass, the seer himself regularly experienced unusual events, and often was relied on as the one to give counsel to others when they were challenged and confused by strange occurrences.  The ass had to speak to counter Balaam’s hardness of heart.  Similarly, discernment and sacred knowledge are bestowed on the apostles, prophets, mature believers, and the disciples of Jesus Christ to enable their correct response to the active presence who is GOD.  Consider again the following:  Hebrews 5:  12-14, King James Version (KJV):  12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness:  for he is a babe.  14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

Christian. Is the commandment to not covet your neighbour’s donkey referring to one of those magical talking donkeys that you all believe in?

Because I must admit, those are some pretty good donkeys!

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?  And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me:  I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee.  And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.  Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand:  and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.  And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me:  And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times:  unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.  And Balaam said unto the angel of the LORD, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me:  now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again.  And the angel of the LORD said unto Balaam, Go with the men:  but only the word that I shall speak unto thee, that thou shalt speak. So Balaam went with the princes of Balak.  And when Balak heard that Balaam was come, he went out to meet him unto a city of Moab, which is in the border of Arnon, which is in the utmost coast.  And Balak said unto Balaam, Did I not earnestly send unto thee to call thee? wherefore camest thou not unto me? am I not able indeed to promote thee to honour?  And Balaam said unto Balak, Lo, I am come unto thee:  have I now any power at all to say any thing? the word that God putteth in my mouth, that shall I speak.  (Number 22:  28-38, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Divinity Appears Using Form (07/26/2017); The Sin of Witchcraft? (01/24/2017); When the Donkey Speaks? (11/03/2016); On Really Seeing Angels (10/09/2016); Getting It Right About Angels (05/10/2015); Harden Not Your Hearts? (09/08/2014);Why Believers Fear (09/09/2014); Hardness of Heart? (11/24/2013); Prayer on Behalf of Others? (11/25/2013); Balaam (10/15/2013); About Sabbath (10/16/2013)

 

“Anonymous”, none of the many sacred operations carried out by GOD to cleanse, defend, heal, and maintain ongoing relationships with the living involve “magic”.  Establishing godliness within created beings and living creatures now demand such elements as acquiring sacred knowledge, forgiveness, growth, completing mortality (death), rebirth, resurrection, ripening for harvest, and sanctification.  The Spirit of GOD that put forth heaven, the earth, and Creation continues to gradually introduce permanent changes in the spirit content of sinners that include multiple subtleties (i.e., barely visible differences; sudden shifts in meaning, quality, and value), and that remain unseen to those who lack discernment.

Many fail to grasp that covetousness only appears as a transgression of divine law (we say, sin).  All sin opposes the continued existence of sacred law, the Law Giver, and divine order throughout the spheres of life.  It has not been a divine intent or eternal purpose that the living exist with their consciousness and self-will dominated by sin, and responding to an uninterrupted stream of desire.  Sin promotes destruction, nonexistence, and a return to the conditions in place before the founding of heaven and earth.  Even so, the living often accept sin as natural, normal, and in no way contrary to their own character and makeup.

In the same way divine law has been provided for guidance and instruction against sin, the account of the “talking donkey” is supplied for those who are immersed in carnal, material, secular and social realities.  Balaam was a genuine  seer (in the Bible, the early name for a prophet).  In addition to genuine prophecy from GOD that may have included visitations by angels, Balaam also may have indulged the occult through ignorance, innocence, and exaggerated pride.  Thus, a very graphic and strong warning had to be made against the self-will of Balaam and how he might support the enemies of Moses.  (Ask yourself:  Where my own self-will would be directed against the sovereign will of GOD, would it be enough for me to be answered on the Internet by a stranger (some jackass) answering in faith and love to Jesus Christ, or would I need something “extreme”, magical, and occult to be admonished and corrected by GOD?  Would GOD have to use with me what he uses for those having hardened minds and hearts?)

There is far more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

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Today, reply is on why sacred knowledge and the word of GOD repeatedly focus on the operations of sin.  The fighter at “Yahoo! Answers” who uses the ID “STEVAN” (Level 3 with 2,461 points, a member since October 17, 2007) posted the following:

 

Why are Christians obsessed with speaking about sinning?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:  old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us:  we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.  (2nd Corinthians 5:  17-21, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  Christian Beliefs About Sin (07/20/2017); Becoming Free From Sin (07/16/2017); Warnings Against Forgetting GOD? (02/16/2017); Become An Anointed Healer (09/04/2016); Sin Must Be Personal (04/29/2016); Sight to the Blind? (07/30/2015); Night Cometh (06/11/2013); Missing Information? (06/12/2013)

 

STEVAN”, along with ignorance and presumptuousness, the operations of sin in the lives of created beings and living creatures may be described as a form of blindness that can be healed through the ministry of Jesus Christ.  Sin is no material object or spirit substance created by GOD; yet, sin may dominate awareness and self-will within the living.  Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the entire universe put forth by divinity.  Sin has direction, effect, and presence; however, without the provisions of GOD for discernment and healing (e.g., sacred law, preaching, rebirth), the living fail to correctly recognize and respond to sin in the life as a threat to their own existence.

Many today can not grasp that sin supports only the expression of an animal nature for mankind, and is contrary to the fulfillment of all our truly human and divine potential.  They argue that sin is “natural”, normal, and even, necessary.  Yet, sin can not be eliminated or removed by relying only upon scholarship, secular knowledge, and finite tools such as intellect, logic, carnal reason, critical thinking, philosophy and science.  Increasingly, the campus and the classroom are defiled and profaned by sin.  The elimination of sin requires the various operations performed by divinity.  Included are atonement, judgment, sanctification, and the second death.

The active presence (we also say, breath, life essence, spirit) who is GOD appears, and uses human form (we say, is incarnate) through Christian believers that serve as vessels of his word and his imparted Spirit.  The revelation of GOD that makes divinity knowable, known, and accessible, also exposes the destroying influence and power of sin.  In the same way, Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross as an embodiment of sinners from Israel and all humanity, Jesus also was an embodiment of sin and separation from GOD.  Consider again the following that uses language from the Bible:

(1.)  John 9:  1-7, King James Version (KJV):  1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.  2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?  3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents:  but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.  4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day:  the night cometh, when no man can work.  5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.  6 When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,  7 And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

(2.)  Ephesians 4:  17-19, KJV:  17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,  18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:  19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

There is much more to be said, correctly examined, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (3.)  John 9:  39-41, KJV:  39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.  40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?  41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin:  but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, topics include human autonomy, dependence on GOD, and suffering.  To say “we are made in the image of GOD” also is to acknowledge that the same operations, patterns, and principles existing among the three persons of full divinity (we say, the GODhead) also must appear among created beings and living creatures.  While those living on the earth are separate and distinct from those in the spirit realm, all are to conform to a single divine standard of oneness without sameness.  Those despising divine law, who oppose the sovereign will of GOD, and insist upon having their own way do so under the grace and forbearance of divinity.  They themselves exist within a context and a universe that belongs to GOD.  One of the fighters at “Yahoo! Answers (UK & Ireland)” using the ID “Anonymous” (no profile information appears) posted the following:

 

What business is this of God’s if I want to be abused?

Because my body is His temple? What if it wasn’t? If it is my choice to pursue an abused life, that is my choice. I’m sick of my actions always involving other people. I wish it had no effect so that I can pursue what I want.

He is my enemy. You don’t want me pursuing an abused life, but then you punish me, further compounding the pain and suffering? Sickening.

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:  and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us:  and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.  But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?  My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.  And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.  For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.  Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.  And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.  (1st John 3:  14-22, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  The Extravagance of Love? (04/02/2017); The Quality of Life? (03/29/2017); For Wanting Great Pleasure? (03/08/2017); Reflections on Existence (12/19/2016); Family Likeness and Traits? (11/08/2016); 3 Persons, 3 Minds? (02/03/2016); GOD and The Framework of Time (09/20/2014); About Knowing the Name of GOD (09/21/2014)

 

“Anonymous”, the battle is for the mind.  Where you are truly willing to consider another point of view, here are some thoughts you might find fresh.  In situations where faith exists, suffering can not dominate consciousness and self-will, or result in depression, self-destruction, and despair.  While we may say a person’s body is their own, their existence, sphere of life, eternal purpose, quality, value, and sacred substance belong exclusively to GOD.  In the same way our emotions, memories, and thoughts are not physical objects we can hold in our hands, the aspects of our unseen spirit from the makeup of GOD are not carnal, material, secular and social.  Included are faith, forbearance, gratitude, holiness, hope, joy, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Correctly understood, an individual in the universe of GOD is like a single brick in a wall.  Because the forces of stress and tension against each unit must be balanced and evenly distributed, there is no one brick that can be safely removed without resulting in a collapse of the entire wall.  Transgression of divine law (we say, sin) introduces such elements as defiling ones spirit through fornication, dependence on secular knowledge, depression, despair, lack of self-esteem, lack of sacred knowledge, and permanent separation of the created from the Creator.  Thus, to sin is like randomly removing bricks from a wall that is the universe.  Where a breach and a hole is opened up is where the structure will begin to fall apart.  The frameworks of time and space are damaged along with those for authority, form, knowing, and truth.  Created beings and living creatures often prosper and survive best through operations that are cooperative, continuous, dynamic, gradual, harmonious, and interactive.  Many life challenges to the living appear as fixed and recurring patterns.  Therefore, coming together in stable relationships, acknowledging interdependence and thoughtfully addressing shared needs, meanings and values allows a maximum gain from ones own efforts with minimum losses and waste.   Consider again the following:

(1.)  1st Corinthians 6:  15-20, King James Version (KJV):  15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.  16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.  17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.  18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.  19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?  20 For ye are bought with a price:  therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

(2.)  Hebrews 10:  26-29, KJV:  26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

(3.)  Romans 6:  3-12, KJV:  3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?  4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:  that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.  7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.  8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:  9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.  10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once:  but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.  11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.  12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, (4.)  Romans 6:  19-23, KJV:  19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh:  for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.  20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.  21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.  23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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Today, thoughts are shared on the methods for defining “sin” used among Christian believers.  All sin must be known and understood as contrary to the existence, active presence, and sovereign will of GOD.  Many of us began knowing what sin is by answering a list of forbidden attitudes, behaviors, and things people say.  Even so, in the same way only learning to recite the ABCs does not make a child able to read and write complete words, becoming an independent and mature believer requires more than simple information that describes a few of the many negative conditions, offenses, patterns, and situations that call forth divine wrath against sin.  Wrath against sin is not an emotion or feeling that GOD experiences from time to time.  Anger and disgust directed against disobedience, evil, and wickedness are permanent and inseparable aspects of the full character, makeup, and substance of the Creator.   Created beings and living creatures who sin are not yet annihilated because divine wrath must also be in  balance with other sacred elements such as compassion, forgiveness, impartiality, joy, longsuffering, and mercy.  A writer at “Yahoo! Answers” using the ID “chaindropz” (Level 4 with 3,074 points, a member since September 10, 2007) posted the following:

 

How do Christians determine what act is a sin?

 

THE GOLDEN ARROW:  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another:  for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour:  therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.  And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep:  for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.  The night is far spent, the day is at hand:  let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.  (Romans 13:  8-12, King James Version, KJV)

 

THE DOUBLE DAGGER:  On Law and Sin (06/07/2017); Atonement, Repentance and More (06/06/2017); Sin to Cover Sin? (02/24/2017); Knowing GOD and Sin? (02/03/2017); Divine Presence and Spirit (01/18/2017); Eternal Life From GOD (10/24/2016); The Cross and Creation (03/24/2016); Condemned by the Church? (08/19/2014); Principles of Correct Belief? (08/20/2014)

 

“chaindropz”, many mature Christian believers agree that divine instruction regarding sin is necessary for new life within the church.  Among small children, young people, and sinners who are just beginning to acquire the sacred knowledge, and develop godly concentration through regular sacred practices (we say, sacraments), sin often is known primarily on the basis of divine law, prohibitions (statements like “thou shalt not”), and ones intuited, diffuse, inner sense of right and wrong/good and bad.  Sin seems to be no more than an abstract, immaterial force, or influence.  Correctly understood, sin is no common object you may hold in your hand, or slip into your pocket; and sin can not be eliminated or destroyed by merely retracing/reversing a persons actions.  (The death of a sinner will stop them from committing more sins, however, the consequences and outcomes from their deeds will continue long after they are dead and gone.)

For mature Christian believers, the divine operations for responding to sin also include using special tools from GOD.  There must be discernment (using ones own spirit content to recognize and respond to spirit substance from divinity appearing within events, oneself, other persons, prophecies, holy writings, etc.), judgment (applying the precepts and principles of divine law as standards to assign meaning, quality, and value; to resolve conflicts; and to settle disputes) as well as incarnation (the embodiment of spirit substance using flesh and blood).

Sin opposes the continued existence of divine law, the Law Giver, and the divine order that serves as the platform of this universe.  More than simply promoting death, sin generates non-existence, and the return to conditions of chaos and formlessness that were in place before Creation.  Sin has direction, effect, and presence; and sin may dominate awareness and self-will in created beings and living creatures.  The will of GOD is not subject to sin; thus,  provision of fresh endowments of divine spirit through the ministry of Jesus Christ is an important “solution” in the full response of GOD to sin.  Sin can not be controlled or erased by simply listing all the specific acts and behaviors that are offensive to GOD.  Finite tools such as intellect, logic, carnal reason, philosophy, science and human willpower are not enough to eliminate sin.

There is far more to be said, correctly applied, and spiritually apprehended.  (For example, through operations of the Holy Spirit during baptism there are the death, burial, and resurrection of ones inborn spirit.  All believers must become “born again,” so to speak, from divine seed, and have fresh deposits of Spirit from the makeup of GOD.  Inseparable aspects from the character, nature, and spirit content of GOD are imparted.  Included are faith, forbearance, holiness, longsuffering, lovingkindness, wisdom, and wrath against sin.  Every one who becomes “born again” also must “grow up again” while living on the earth, and is to become ripe for harvest (mature; fit to meet the Lord in the air at his Second Coming).  As vessels of divine substance these will be received as sons and daughters of GOD, divine offspring, and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ.)  Even so, I trust this fragment will be useful.  Be it unto you according to your faith.

THE BLACK PHOENIX
Washington, DC

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